plez don't read this !!!! u will get kissed on the nerest friday by the love of ur life 2morrow will be the best day of ur life however if u don't send this this commet to atleast 3 vidos u will die in the next 2 days don't stop now uv already started this is soooo scary send 2 atleast 5 vidoes in 123 min when ur done press f6 and ur crushes name will apearon the screen in big letters this is soooo scary cause it relly works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long live Jimi! As for all of my fellow Guitarists out there, I think people know that Guitar Hero isn't meant to teach you how to play. Though, I hate it when I was at computer class and everyone was saying, "I can plaay TTFATF on Expert." Now, I bring in my Guitar and start playing some of the GH for them and they liked playing GH better. What if they more time on an original intrument than on that game? They would be the Hendrix', Satrianies, Stradlins and Coopers of tomorrow.
Well yeah, you and I both know that. But if people were as hooked onto a real guitar as they were on that game, the outcome would be phenomonal. The only reason that the game is better is because you have to do one thing to make it sound like an actual guitar. While in real life, it takes much more preperation than that.
why is it that people always have something negative to say about peoples hobbies guitar hero is just a game let it go maybe if you werent such a dick about other people and the thing they do for fun you would be a better person
guitar hero is horrible it teaches you nothing, its a freaken toy, 5 colored bottons lol in any way supposed to resemble an actual guitar? that has 6 strings, up to 23 frets, and you have to place fingers at different parts of guitar lol, guitar hero nerds need to pick up THE REAL THING.
thats fine, millions of people play video games, i'm just not one of them. but once you actually play the real thing, you'll see how much time video games suck from the day, when you're occupied with something real it seems like there is not enough hours in the day, i just dont like video games cause they take up precious time.
@sourmanofcoal You know, you need to get a life. You go on random videos, and troll on them. At least you can have a party with GH. But trolling is a lonely road, a road that you'll be on forever... So, the thing YOU need to pick up is a girl, and a life.
ok 1st of all he spelled american wrong on purpose dumbass 2nd this game is called frets on fire he didnt make this song you can download it i know ive played it and theres a way better version you can get stop getting on this ass whats wrong with it?
yeah, and people who can do it on expert assume they can shred like a pro on a real guitar, its not the same, at all, you are the shittiest human being in existence
no they fucking dont moron, have you ever met a gh player who is good at real guitar, i mean good by proper standards not yours, and maybe if you had a good point to make you wouldnt have to resort to crude capital letters to get your point across, fucktard
I hate people that try to show off at video games. learn how to play it on a real guitar and post a video of that. oh and btw... you suck anyway, why would you even bother posting this piece of shit. what a waste of 5 minutes of your life.
I like this version of Jimi Hendrix performance at Woodstock 1969. It still seems to be a controversial version of the National Anthem after almost fourty years ...
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Just for every 1 there commenting that this sounds terrible, this is how hendrix played it at woodstock, if you don't believe me listen to his live vids @ woodstock.
HAHA this is Jimi Hendrix playing his rendition of the Star Spangled Banner at WOODSTOCK. so if you don't like the music of legends why the fuck are you listening to this. if you don't believe me watch it on youtube dumbfuck
the reason this song is so revered is because jimi did this with an amp distortion and a guitar. thats it. no foot pedals no nothing. the sounds he got out of his guitar can be described as only that of a guitar GOD.
yeah he was using 200 watt masrhall majors which had no distortion channel, they were powerful enouh to naturally distort, plus he was using a fuzz-face and used a vox wah for some of the little effects he threw in
you also have to consider the time and place. You sound like a younger person, how would you feel if we took some seminal piece of music from your generation and called it shitty and bad?
it supposed to resemble all the f'ed up crab that was happening back in the veitnam war, dumbass! that song is beautiful! ur un- american if you think this is shitty!
if you listen to it closely, you'll spot that he's trying to emulate the sound of falling bombs lol, it's a great effect, something that can be acheived much easier with modern day equipment, yet Jimi was way ahead of his time.
Just wanted to comment on the ignorant people that bash Jimi on his outstanding performance of the national anthem...parts of the song relate to the turmoil this country and the people in it were going through at the time. As for him being the highest guitarist...well, acid would do you well, and maybe you would come to respect and appreciate Hendrix.
Well seeing as your somewhat a hendrix fan I'll let that slide but know this he was wrong: being high did not, has not and will not ever solve the problems that he was going through and on top of that I have the right to say what ever the world I want which means if I wanted to tell you some thing rude I could and you couldn't stop me so back to your little... what ever it is you were doing and leave the conversations to the big boys, you know the ones that don't use curse words to make a point
yeah the dud on the bongos was totally wasted but who really gives a fuck! and who gives a fuck that the crowd was so few! the ones that were there saw and heard GOD himself pick a mean guitar! jimmy you rock for eternity dude!!
wat da hell
blachic 3 years ago
cool
hydepark30 3 years ago
that sucks cock
starfish99999 3 years ago
Holy shit, that charts fucking horrible.
Mordeaci 3 years ago
so trill
Gunzupthumbzdown 3 years ago
he must have been on some good shit
brageritu 3 years ago
what a shit note chart....
AngusBeef1688 3 years ago
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wow this song SUCKS!!!!!!!! well the guitar playing does
resiboy666 3 years ago
you must be stupid
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gfcdgfcdgfcd 3 years ago
FAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
elmachinegun993 3 years ago
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LOL thats not guitare hero thats rock band
ArcaneShotProduction 3 years ago
dude thats frets on fire not rockband
patrickiii200 3 years ago 3
its neither u fag
BaconCheesePotato 3 years ago
this just goes to show.... no one is as good as jimi, not even on an easy lame guitar game
AESJimmy 3 years ago
ya dude I can play that song all the way through and half of the notes you put are effects of whammy.
dudemcgee2 3 years ago
dude thats an awesome song especially since its by jimi but you killed it by putting it on guitar hero and playing badly
Ixamxgodx 3 years ago
i can play jimi's version of the national anthem on my guitar lets see anyone who wastes all of there playing guitar hero do that
rumble2232 3 years ago
dude no one can play jimis version...its HIS song no one can play it it will never be like it no matter how hard u try
Shizzlest2 3 years ago
Long live Jimi! As for all of my fellow Guitarists out there, I think people know that Guitar Hero isn't meant to teach you how to play. Though, I hate it when I was at computer class and everyone was saying, "I can plaay TTFATF on Expert." Now, I bring in my Guitar and start playing some of the GH for them and they liked playing GH better. What if they more time on an original intrument than on that game? They would be the Hendrix', Satrianies, Stradlins and Coopers of tomorrow.
KorinBeck 3 years ago
playing an instrument takes years of practise. the games jus design for people to be able to pick up and play. but ppl should play more guitar :D:P
ILSAIDL 3 years ago
Well yeah, you and I both know that. But if people were as hooked onto a real guitar as they were on that game, the outcome would be phenomonal. The only reason that the game is better is because you have to do one thing to make it sound like an actual guitar. While in real life, it takes much more preperation than that.
KorinBeck 3 years ago 2
Yeah thats true man totally agree with you i cant argue with that lol.
ILSAIDL 3 years ago
totally agree awesome!
IcEiCeBaByLaLaLa 3 years ago
man I love guitar hero and all. but as a musician, you just can't beat a real guitar.
interms of expression of emotion. and all that jazz (if you pardon the expression:)
music, after all, is the universal expresion of emotion, through a way not speakable in any language besides this one.
jonafun516 3 years ago
Man, upload this somewhere and link me, I want this.
cyberprime 3 years ago
what system is that supposed to be
amannuz 3 years ago
play real guitar
ineedanamee 3 years ago
dude how do u get this song on frets on fire
jimmyking211 3 years ago
i downloaded it as a part of a torrent.
onemanairband 3 years ago
where did u get the torrent
what website
TomKing57 3 years ago
dude i play guitar and i like guitar hero its not meant to teach you guitar thats what you take lessons for its just to entrtain you
visionz1993 3 years ago
why is it that people always have something negative to say about peoples hobbies guitar hero is just a game let it go maybe if you werent such a dick about other people and the thing they do for fun you would be a better person
leitox 3 years ago 7
guitar hero is horrible it teaches you nothing, its a freaken toy, 5 colored bottons lol in any way supposed to resemble an actual guitar? that has 6 strings, up to 23 frets, and you have to place fingers at different parts of guitar lol, guitar hero nerds need to pick up THE REAL THING.
sourmanofcoal 3 years ago
it builds finger muscles!!! duh..!!!! lolz jk but i love guitar hero its fun. but yeah i see where your comming from.
XXkillXXmeXXnowXX6 3 years ago
thats fine, millions of people play video games, i'm just not one of them. but once you actually play the real thing, you'll see how much time video games suck from the day, when you're occupied with something real it seems like there is not enough hours in the day, i just dont like video games cause they take up precious time.
sourmanofcoal 3 years ago
yeps... ilove playing the guitar! its awesome....so yeah peace
XXkillXXmeXXnowXX6 3 years ago 2
i personally play the guitar and i think this game is awsome.
zachgibson22 3 years ago
True...
PogoSam1337 3 years ago
You're stupid.
That's like saying "WHY DO YOU PLAY MONOPOLY IF IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU REAL MONEY?!"
It's a game. It's entertainment. You're retarded.
Coolbry1226 3 years ago 7
I was typing out a nice response on the stupidity of comparing games to the real thing, but you beat me to it.
xdir 3 years ago
its a video game u dumbass, they are for entertainment not to teach you the actual thing.
freshpickedoranges 3 years ago
@sourmanofcoal You know, you need to get a life. You go on random videos, and troll on them. At least you can have a party with GH. But trolling is a lonely road, a road that you'll be on forever... So, the thing YOU need to pick up is a girl, and a life.
nikko7mya 10 months ago
Quit bitching about guitar hero. It's frets on fire. A computer version of it.
Insertnamehere01 3 years ago
NOOB!
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what a shit song
yzujq 3 years ago
What a retarded person
MikeyWay4eva 3 years ago
no, otherwise i woulodent be able to write this
dick head
yzujq 3 years ago
Fuck u asshole
RocKeR8765 3 years ago
its jimis cover you stupid idiot
ceapacufasole 3 years ago
who the fuck gave guitar hero to the fucking cavemen...........
runescapefam 3 years ago 5
what kind of guitar hero i that.. computer??.. nah i think thats just bootleg
jamalxxx2 3 years ago
ITS FRETS ON FIRE FOR COMPUTER
villevalo61 3 years ago
what is this anyways? is this suppose to be guitar hero?
MMMaaa1235 3 years ago
hell*
MMMaaa1235 3 years ago
how the hel do u spell american wrong????????
MMMaaa1235 3 years ago
ok 1st of all he spelled american wrong on purpose dumbass 2nd this game is called frets on fire he didnt make this song you can download it i know ive played it and theres a way better version you can get stop getting on this ass whats wrong with it?
veta444 3 years ago
fuck. this song as played here, makes me proud to be amerikkan.
greenslashpurple 3 years ago
this is a fucking bad edition!
startkupon 3 years ago
srry man but u really suck!!! because...you...sorta made that song!!!!!!!! i mean geez....
threedaysmetal 3 years ago
fag
Peckz7 3 years ago
hey i was just wonderin, where can you download this song? ive been looking for it
ember5050 3 years ago
i bet nobody playing guitar hero can do this song, you know why ? :P
they forgot the larsen effects,thats the basic thing to leanr about Hendrix
^^
Kenzyw 3 years ago
"learn to play a real guitar" is the shittiest remark ever.. it's a video game, dickwads
TedPalansky 4 years ago
yeah, and people who can do it on expert assume they can shred like a pro on a real guitar, its not the same, at all, you are the shittiest human being in existence
moonspray91 4 years ago
yeah, um, they DONT think they can "shred like a pro" because they know that guitar hero and real guitar ARE COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT
krs33 4 years ago
no they fucking dont moron, have you ever met a gh player who is good at real guitar, i mean good by proper standards not yours, and maybe if you had a good point to make you wouldnt have to resort to crude capital letters to get your point across, fucktard
moonspray91 4 years ago 2
I have... joinxthexranks is his youtube name... he can play gh on expert and is amazing at guitar
thebluesninja 4 years ago 2
ook... now.. if you want to get pissed.. then why... WHY?! even watch the damn video?!
asswhipe.
eletronicguru 3 years ago
I hate people that try to show off at video games. learn how to play it on a real guitar and post a video of that. oh and btw... you suck anyway, why would you even bother posting this piece of shit. what a waste of 5 minutes of your life.
Fishymuffin 4 years ago 2
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
LordThanathos 3 years ago 3
yeah i saw that picture too.
spartan4745 3 years ago
I like this version of Jimi Hendrix performance at Woodstock 1969. It still seems to be a controversial version of the National Anthem after almost fourty years ...
beliasso 4 years ago 2
Dude this is Russian Guitar Hero!
BoondockSaints01 4 years ago 2
what the hell is this
ninjaguy300 4 years ago
why don't you play a real guitar..... loser
ZoSo158 4 years ago
yeah and a life!!!
karmineka 4 years ago
need to work on those threes
Shawntavos 4 years ago
what game is this?
euroboy49 4 years ago
Frets on Fire for PC
onemanairband 4 years ago
can we download it free?
euroboy49 4 years ago
yea you can i had it but then i got guitar hero for christmas
JuNi4R95 4 years ago
this game is called "i cant play guitar but i can pretend to"
crazy87jim 4 years ago 2
lol thisgut is poor
heartshapedbox343 4 years ago
WHAT IS THIS...?????
A cheaper verison of gutair hero..?
haha.
celloplayingfool 4 years ago
this is not a cheaper version you idiot. it's the only version for pc. it's called frets on fire. dumbass...
PedroBaptista 4 years ago
they have guitar hero 3 for PC now.
littlemarca 4 years ago
Haha, sorry. I guess I am dumb.
And I really wasn't trying to be rude.
Just funny, but thanks.. I guess I know now.
celloplayingfool 4 years ago
what is this garbage
PurpleHaze0119 4 years ago
Its Jimi MOTHER FUCKN Hendrix playn at WOODSTOCK
BLAWT1234 4 years ago
stupid PurpleHaze0119
BLAWT1234 4 years ago
actualy, he played it many times before woodstock, woodstock was just the most famous place
MiNdFrEaKI 4 years ago
i know
BLAWT1234 4 years ago
who cares about this video anyways? all i care about is Hendrix playing the guitar. fuck the guy who made this shit cause it blows
gradadia 4 years ago
I couldn't agree with you more.
XxAC1DxX 4 years ago
i agree
g3mafia2 4 years ago
thanks for your positive encouragement
onemanairband 4 years ago
get gh3 for pc and u can make customs its way better then this shit fag
wattdog2 4 years ago
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what a shitty ass piece of copyrighted material this is a ghetto ass piece of Guitar Hero
element166 4 years ago
this game came out before guitar hero
fenderstrat235 4 years ago 12
worst guitar hero knock off ever. go crawl in a whole
this was ultimate weak sauce
CSTorque 4 years ago
lol this was the only guitar game out for pc and it came out before guitar hero. so thats saying this dude goes old school with games.
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merzedesstern 4 years ago
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frets on fire is gay get custom guitar hero loser
sdkearley2 4 years ago
this is fucking good man?!!!
jessedaan 4 years ago 2
wtf is this shit?
Sk8erPimpDaddy 4 years ago
guitar hero rip off???????
gleemanvox23 4 years ago
Its called frets on fire. Its for the computer and u play the keyboard like a guitar.
ncaptain22 4 years ago
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yea thts what i said, guitar hero rip off duh cant you read? may have a dif name but that doesnt matter.
gleemanvox23 4 years ago
sry I thought i learned that ? means a question in the english language u dumb faggot
ncaptain22 4 years ago
faggot eh? ever occur to u that im a girl? and probably have seen more pussy than youll ever see :)
gleemanvox23 4 years ago
whats you bein a girl got to do wit wat he's sayin?? faggot dosnt just mean fellas it means gay and theres gay women out there too!!! dumb tramp!!
darraghk1989 4 years ago
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fuck you, ok, c u are just pissed cause, youve never gotten laid and pissed that ive got a girl and you dont you faggots.
gleemanvox23 4 years ago
LOL!!!
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i like cheese!
ironclad2 4 years ago
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i like cheese!
ironclad2 4 years ago
your a sad act mate, think your the coolest person in the world over the internet, in real life your probs just a fucking low life loser
darraghk1989 4 years ago
who
onemanairband 4 years ago
Just for every 1 there commenting that this sounds terrible, this is how hendrix played it at woodstock, if you don't believe me listen to his live vids @ woodstock.
17blue 4 years ago 4
you're a complete idiot, how ignorant can one person be?
Brian18C1 4 years ago
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omfg are you trying to make me deaf? that shit sounds TERRIBLE
boredomwillkillme 4 years ago
HAHA this is Jimi Hendrix playing his rendition of the Star Spangled Banner at WOODSTOCK. so if you don't like the music of legends why the fuck are you listening to this. if you don't believe me watch it on youtube dumbfuck
gogeta2478 4 years ago
What game is this?
snowsportsguy 4 years ago
frets on fire, you download it for free
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rugy200 4 years ago
Yes but he could play it Way better than anyone els he just decided to throw some "war" into it like you said...
undergay 4 years ago
AWESOME! THANKS!!
ma0namaste 4 years ago
wat the hell iz that
filthyphil66 4 years ago
why don't you use time on a real guitar wouldn't it be alot more fun? i don't get it
kennoshannon 4 years ago 2
It's even more trying to play a song on Guitar hero AFTER learning it on the real guitar.
Trust me. Two totally different experiences :)
ryanson209 4 years ago
is that the 1st guitar hero
papageorgiothepimp 4 years ago
its Frets on Fire for pc..google it it'll make sense once u read up on it
onemanairband 4 years ago
How is it even possible to create a notechart for the parts he was improvising? Great job!
jimifan199214 4 years ago
im sure he wrote them down at one point or sumbody repeated it, it's not that hard
papageorgiothepimp 4 years ago
good job
jakesurferboi 4 years ago
whats the hype on this song?
truth be told, the majority of it sounds sumwhat shitty...i really dont get it. You seirously cant tell me that sounds good.
theyoungbeleiver 4 years ago
the reason this song is so revered is because jimi did this with an amp distortion and a guitar. thats it. no foot pedals no nothing. the sounds he got out of his guitar can be described as only that of a guitar GOD.
cabmaster101 4 years ago
yeah he was using 200 watt masrhall majors which had no distortion channel, they were powerful enouh to naturally distort, plus he was using a fuzz-face and used a vox wah for some of the little effects he threw in
MonkHouse93 4 years ago
Ok, yeah that takes talent.
It still sounds aggrivating though.
theyoungbeleiver 4 years ago
you also have to consider the time and place. You sound like a younger person, how would you feel if we took some seminal piece of music from your generation and called it shitty and bad?
voodoomanboy 4 years ago
seminal? why are you talking about sperm? oh!!!! you meant sentimnetal my bad
gleemanvox23 4 years ago
it tkaes talent to be able to manipulate sounds liek that form a guitar
MonkHouse93 4 years ago
it also takes time to learn to spell corectly, but you don't seem to think that it's important
Wedelj 4 years ago
well one would hope you could figure out a few swapped letters
MonkHouse93 4 years ago
it supposed to resemble all the f'ed up crab that was happening back in the veitnam war, dumbass! that song is beautiful! ur un- american if you think this is shitty!
grmmripper 4 years ago
theyoungbeleiver, it's not supposed to sound good, that's the whole point. Jimi made it ugly to reflect what was happening in Vietnam at the time.
It sure doesn't sound pretty, but it's one of the most beautiful and emotional pieces of guitar playing in history.
fungasuta 4 years ago
thanks for explaining that, i would have never guessed that.
In that case, yeah, its good.
theyoungbeleiver 4 years ago
if you listen to it closely, you'll spot that he's trying to emulate the sound of falling bombs lol, it's a great effect, something that can be acheived much easier with modern day equipment, yet Jimi was way ahead of his time.
fungasuta 4 years ago 2
imagine what he could've been able to do today if he was still alive...
ferdgreg 4 years ago
che nene hay mejores verciones de guitar hero para pc no juegues mas esa verguenza y aguante Hendrix, is the best.
dangerdemonpage 4 years ago
uhhh... what?
grmmripper 4 years ago
Just wanted to comment on the ignorant people that bash Jimi on his outstanding performance of the national anthem...parts of the song relate to the turmoil this country and the people in it were going through at the time. As for him being the highest guitarist...well, acid would do you well, and maybe you would come to respect and appreciate Hendrix.
tryptamine24 4 years ago
The person who calls Jimi Hendrix a bad player (so also this song), doesn't know what a guitar is. You should try to play this!
edwinmichalik 4 years ago
hendrix is the thuggest motha fucka around. he was so fucked up always hahahah what a true american
BALLINBEEEEACH 4 years ago
I totally get off on this song!
Mullahgrrl 4 years ago
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I can't watch this anymore this song Sucks! I now have a head ache, just no other word for it S-U-C-K-S!
FFX2KH2Master 4 years ago
Well Hendrix was high as a kite when he played this, and I bet if he played this in a recording studio, it would have less "explosions" in it.
FrenchFootballLegend 4 years ago
Ohh that explains it maybe he thought he was playing well when he really wasn't
FFX2KH2Master 4 years ago
R U freaking kidding me???? Hendrix is THE greatest guitarist ever!!!
NYyanksrock 4 years ago
Now I'm not denying that he may have been the highest guitarist but the greatest hmm.......... maybe not
FFX2KH2Master 4 years ago
FUCK YOU.
IronMaidenHendrix777 3 years ago
Well seeing as your somewhat a hendrix fan I'll let that slide but know this he was wrong: being high did not, has not and will not ever solve the problems that he was going through and on top of that I have the right to say what ever the world I want which means if I wanted to tell you some thing rude I could and you couldn't stop me so back to your little... what ever it is you were doing and leave the conversations to the big boys, you know the ones that don't use curse words to make a point
FFX2KH2Master 3 years ago
change your strum key from enter to delete or shift to fix your problem if that dosnt work replace F1-F5 with 1-5
LtotheIQUID 4 years ago
wrong
BarakaTheGreat 4 years ago
what system are you playing this on
armyqpzm 4 years ago
Ahh windows xp, if thats what your talking about. I have an intel dual core based system if thats not what you're talking about lol
onemanairband 4 years ago
you should have just did the edit preview, press space and it auto plays to deciide all the shit
crossedfaith 4 years ago
haha jonathan321987 spelled hiz name wrong itz jimi lozer lol jimi is da best
davebianca6707 4 years ago
yeah the dud on the bongos was totally wasted but who really gives a fuck! and who gives a fuck that the crowd was so few! the ones that were there saw and heard GOD himself pick a mean guitar! jimmy you rock for eternity dude!!
jonathan321987 4 years ago
wtf is this? game?
Tyler2303 4 years ago
frets on fire
Spark360 4 years ago
this is cool
theaz5 4 years ago
Were do you get frets on fire i downloaded it but it wont work! i have Windows Xp.
is that The Problem?
Uvon6197 4 years ago
no.
im using windows xp and it works just fine.
CarlosGOWfan 4 years ago
uhh what is the problem exactly?
onemanairband 4 years ago
frets on fire = computer nerd guitar hero :D
paster101 4 years ago
you are an insult to hendrix. fucked up the best parts of the song.
pingedpongball 4 years ago
Ill bet if you posted your vid it would sound like your cock slapping the keyboard, except it isn't long enough to reach.
voodoomanboy 4 years ago 2
How do you get songs for Frets on Fire? This one is so wrong and messed up.. the notes go up when they should be going down and shit
SimMaster 4 years ago
sounded like crap
LongDriveChamp03 4 years ago
you do too your point?
BarakaTheGreat 4 years ago
i don't get what u mean.
LongDriveChamp03 4 years ago