@PhylipMorris Schumacher had the blue helmet, he changed to full red later. If you didn't knew this, then you might wanna do some research, and watch some races on f1archives.
I'm sick of senna fanboys, I actually have a tattoo of ayrton on my left arm and have done for a while, since the film came out every F1 video i come on some little spunk is ranting about how senna is better than anyone else, senna was undoubtedly ONE of the greatest drivers that ever lived, but michael is wayyy up in the rankings with him. i wish that fucking film never happened now. have any of you even seen a full GP that senna raced in?
@thatciggaweed back when senna raced every driver had the possibility of finishing in the podium(unless you had a very very shit car). that was why senna had good scoring on races. unlike now, the car does more things than the driver. if F1 was like the 80s schumacher wouldnt have won 7 titles. that adding all the cheats and shit
Best Start off the Line??? hahahahahah Do not make me laugh! Senna at Donnington Park the best start of the race of the F1!!! He dropped in 4th place went to fifth and before completing the first lap was already outpacing Prost and leading the race!
@yakisiklijojuk123 This: 4 overtakes from the start to turn 1. Senna at Donington: passed at the start and overtook 4 cars in 1 lap. Alonso in Spain: 3 cars from the start to turn 1, and 2 cars in Monza, with KERS against cars with a crap KERS system.
@blainyrules Schumacher's overtakes 4 "crappy" car,Alonso overtakes 3 "fastest" car.And not only Alonso has KERS.All drivers has a KERS.Schumacher's this start is a good,but Senna and Alonso's start is the beginning of the most powerful cars.
Beneton had the same electronic traction control than Williams in 1994, both had not any. It is quite illustrating, that being Beneton under strong surveillance, when Schumacher returned in Jerez 94 he was superb, and was again the very best in the field.
No one discovered traction controls,only a not used Start Control,no cheating, only Schumi, the best driver in 1994. In "Senna" movie there are some mistakes and wrong information and this matter is one of the biggest mistakes in the movie
haven't you seen any jean alesi starts. he had the best starts especially the one he had at italy 1996 when he started 6th and took the lead before turn 1
Senna lost 2 places during the start in dunington. his first lap was undoubtedly the best lap ever in formula 1, but his start wasn't any good. typical "senna is best comment" on a schumacher vid. really gettin annoying
@IuriMoreira1 Why are such party poopers like you on each Schumi-Video ? If you like Senna more, watch his Videos, Tributes etc. You say Donington Park 1993, I say "The Best Start In F1 History!!", you say Jerez 1997, I say Suzuka 1990! You say Monaco '84, I say Japan 1998 ! What else ? Schumi rules !
@IuriMoreira1 shut up. Always this dudes with this fucking Schumacher Senna comparisons. It sucks. You cant say who is better, but schumacher have more titles and Senna died. Yo cant know how it would have developed if Senna would be stil alive. So be quiet
@Nohjjohnthegreat The MP4 / 8 was one of the best cars of 1993, Williams had an automatic transmission as Benetton and Ferrari, had a sophisticated active suspension and a fine TC, unfortunately, despite the best Senna had a handicap in the low power of the V8 Ford Coswoth (only mid-season as the most powerful version of HB Shumacher). Senna has been and will remain one of the greatest drivers of all time but one must be precise in what you write
@Nohjjohnthegreat Okay mr Nohjjohnthegreat, that is the dumnest reaction on my command so far. Other reactions at least had some sort of interesting content, but you haven't even got your facts right in the slightest way...
Senna ruined his 65 poles to get "only" 41 victories. Was he a quick driver then? Not so quick as Schumacher of course!
Schumacher got petroleum from his 68 poles, and achieved 91 victories!! Of course Schumacher was better, poles does not mean a shit! Come on Senna! Wake up! Wake up! The race is on Sunday kid! Were you misinformed?
Schumacher scored more points than you sice his 4rd race!!! Wake up Ayrton!
Why do the Senna widows always infest the Schumi vids, go and watch Spa 92, 95 and 97, or Spain 96, or best still, Hungary 1998, I dont think anyone could have done what Schumi did that day.
@zackjr What, you mean how Schumacher overtook Senna so Senna tried to push him into the wall, and then shook his fist in impotent rage when he couldn't cause Schumacher to crash like he did to Prost in 1989 and 1990?
@Dallas8844 ... that's the point. See the video again and see that Senna didn't see Schummi till he's beside to Senna. Then Senna did no try to hit Schummi. He just recovered cars control again. he was angry just because Schummi was agressvie ( as Senna always was). That wasnt normal to him. I admit he was a little cry baby, but he didnt try to hit Schummi.
The best Start of the history have done Fernando Alonso in the 2006 season, in Hungaroring. He started in the last position, it's raining and ind the first lap, he overtaked 10 positions
Listen I'm a Senna fan but don't get me wrong, but senna fucked his start up and managed to come back by the end of the lap. Here, Schumacher just made a really good start.
but the cars are so different today, M.S. is a typical oversteerer, but today cars with their new tyres prefers Driver they drive smooth and with more understeering (Button is the best of the guys). Especially the Mercedes are rough on the Pirelli tyres. They were not be able to improved this failure on this car enough. 3 years without f1 is like 10 years without f1 in the eighties
It´s so simple: Michael Schumacher is German! That tell us all, why it gives so many haters, often are the haters from UK. But i can speak generally for Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher, both are in there times the best Drivers. Ayrton had the ability to concentrate of one lap, Schumacher too, but maybe a little behind him... But the greatest edge about Michael Schumacher is, that he could a whole team so hard pushing, no other had this ability!
@jfzclips Senna didn't screw up... Schumacher tried to push him out of the track and both of them lost positions. By the way, Schumacher never made a brilliant race in his career (like Senna did in Portugal, 1985, with lots of world champions on the track) when he had real competition. His first brilliant race was in 1996, when he was practically alone in the field, his contenders were only the avarage Damon Hill and the rookie Jacques Villeneuve (who was never a top driver).
@LouieGee look just no ok. i cant be bothered getting in to this. i take you as a smart guy but what you say about schumacher is just plain thick. he is the best of all time end of
@jfzclips Sorry dude, but the people who REALLY know what they are talking about (drivers, team bosses, engineers) say that Senna was the best of all times.
F1 Racing Magazine made a poll with 77 of such people and guess what? Senna won.
Autosport made another one with 217 drivers and ex drivers and... guess what? Senna won?
@LouieGee do you know how many of those drivers were absolutely spanked by schumacher and now are seriously jealouse!!!! lol you cant denie schumachers supiriority im afraid. 7 championships mate. thats the reality
@jfzclips How many of those 217 drivers were "spanked" by Schumacher? Not even 10, I'm afraid. Schumacher holds the majority of records in F1, but Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso (just to mention current drivers) would've done the same in his conditions (best car for 5 straight years and no competition at all for 4 straight years).
Jacques Villeneuve has won a title. His father Gilles hasn't. But even a blind mule knows Gilles was 100x better than his son. Numbers don't say it all...
@LouieGee look schumacher only had a good car for 5 years straight because he ''developed'' it. he did that. thats why he had a great car ok. and if you say why didnt his teamates challenge him for the title, thats because schumacher liked to drive a car that was completely unstable but lighting quick and his team mates just couldnt handle that power. if you say schumacher only won because of his car, then you say senna did aswell. 91 wins and 7 titles. thats something senna fans just cant denie
@jfzclips Sorry, but such thing as "Schumacher developed the car" is something you hear from people who doesn't know how Formula 1 works. The driver has little or nothing to do with the work of building a new car and the responsibles for doing this work are the engineers. The drivers only do little adjustments after the car is built, and if the car is not good there isn't much for the driver to do instead of coping with his bad car for the entire year.
@LouieGee my replie to this rather strange comment is everyone knows that schumacher developed the car to his driving style. i dont mean actually build it. i mean give the engineers data to build that car to his style. and your whole idea about just suffering for a whole year is stupid. explain schumachers and others fantastic comebacks from a bad start to the year. and the drivers have plenty of input into the car as they actually drive it.
@jfzclips Continuing: I mean, Schummy fans talk like if Schumacher drew the car from the drawing board. Schumacher didn't like the car "completely unstable", that's another ingenuous assumption. No driver likes an unstable car. Schumacher did like cars that were more "rear" than "front" cars, he preferred the car oversteering instead of understeering. That's far from being "unstable".
@LouieGee i have an interview of schumacher saying what type of car he wants for 2012
it says 'just give me the fastest car around a track, i dont car if its unstable, i can drive it' something mercedes havent latched onto yet. we all know that schumacher just wants shear speed and he dosent give a crap if that means he be practically driving on ice. everyone knows that
Senna had the best car in 1988 but his rival had the exact same equipment. In 1990 McLaren and Ferrari were in the same class (and Prost was at Ferrari) so he had real competition. In 1991, as Nigel Roebuck said, "[...]the first four races, all won by Ayrton Sennna. Won, moreover, by a car which should not have been winning."
As James Hunt said: "Williams was the class of the field all season and Senna was WC in an arguably inferior car."
@LouieGee ferrari were far from as good as maclaren in 1990. senna had the best car for four years. no two ways about it. williams were nowhere near either.now im not saying thats why senna won, i know he was a great driver but he was under the exact same conditions as schumacher was when he was dominating so ill say it again 'dont go saying schumi only won because of the car because that means senna did aswell end of
Senna faced some serious competition in his 3 WC. Schumacher, on the other hand, from his 7 titles, had real competition in only TWO: 95 and 2000, when Williams and McLaren were up to the challenge.
@LouieGee the thing that really gets under senna fans skin is the cold hard evidence backing schumacher up. when we point it out all you can do is pretend you didnt see it or just make up stupid storys and denie it. there is just to much evidence showing schumacher is the best. and just to back up what ive said is the fact that there is so many senna fans dissing schumacher on his vids but ive never seen any schumacher fans dising senna on his vids. you all cant stand schumachers achievements
@jfzclips The frustating point about arguing with a Schummy fan is that they won't see anything beyond "numbers and records". It doesn't matter how obvious those things are. For ex: Senna DIED before having the chance of achieving what he would certainly achieve.
Senna would be 5x WC in Williams and then he would go to Ferrari. Ferrari had plans with SENNA to "resurrect", as they knew Senna was the best. They signed Schumacher because he was the best available after Senna died...
@jfzclips Yes, it´s simply terrible and tasteless! We have and had so great Driver and it´s really like a "Kindergarten" Senna "fans" I became many ashamed letters from Senna "fans". They don´t nothing about the complexity about the f1!
@jfzclips He made many testmiles with the Ferrari, that is an great edge. But the combination the package is most urgent. As Team you have to have the best carbuilder, best Team, best principal and of course best car and much luck!
Also, people always go on about how Senna at Interlagos in '88 where his gearbox had problems towards the end of the race, and say how it was the greatest win ever. I can think of some even greater victories than that. Focussing on the modern era, look at Schumacher in 1996 at Catalunya, in the wet, with his car stuck in gear for the majority of the race!
@nickyp28 I can think of a performance that blow not only Schumacher in Spain 96 and Senna at Donnington 93 and Interlagos 88. Sir Jackie Stewart at the 1968 German Grand Prix at the old Nurburgring, raced in heavy rain and fog, Sir Jackie decimated the field and won by over 4 minutes while suffering from a broken wrist. he said he was up to his neck in fear the whole time. Simply the greatest F1 drive. I don't buy into the Schu or Senna hype.
@andrewgriffiths78 Oh, I totally agree with you there. I was just trying to find a modern example, because pretty much everything pre-1990 makes F1 look very tame these days..
@nickyp28 Senna won in interlagos with a jammed gearbox in 91, in 1988 the Brazilian GP wasnt held here...and Schumacher didnt have a jammed gearbox in 96, it was his engine, that was running only on 8 or 9 cylinders. Schumacher however, drove a great race in Spain in 1994, jammed in 5th, but still not finishing far away from Hill...
Senna fanatics seem to find their way onto every F1 vid. Yes Senna was brilliance, and yes it was a tragic loss for the world of Motor sport, but guys, it just gets boring, infact *yawns* zzzzzz
Well, that wasn't the most brilliant start. I believe Senna lost several places off the line. The lap was the best I've ever seen though but this is starts we're talking about or in other words the getaway off the line.
As for the video, I believe Schumacher has made several starts like these this year and I believe a few that were even better (more places won). So I'm not to sure this is the best start in F1 history.
@TRAXXAS58 a good first lap is more impressive than a good start . the start is part of the first lap . you have to carry that performance over a lap not a start . :P
@OllyGaming No..that wasn't only the start, that was a complete lap, okay? F* Senna-wankers on every Schumacher-vid, goddamned. And btw, Senna was the only one was proper Traction control, that's why he managed to overtake them all. HA!
@wimpiedimpie Williams had the best traction control and active suspension systems by far. Schumacher had an engine with 40 HP more and a better chassi than Senna's McLaren. The McLaren was a good car, but it was the third force of the grid.
@wimpiedimpie Yes, you should be right. He was probably using electronic aids in this race: watch?v=1hUWuR2Dj78 (btw in '94, Prost, Hill, Andretti also had traction control, as well MSC after Monaco => "The B193 was very advanced in the technological sense and featured active suspension, a semi-automatic transmission and traction control from the Monaco GP". And with 40 HP more than the McLarens.
@bob333336 Euhm, no...not every driver had one, and the ones that did had a tc that didn't work as good as Senna's in the wet. If Senna's teammate hadn't been rammed of in the second corner, we would have seen him on p2 after the first, second or maximum third lap.
@wimpiedimpie What...Andretti got rammed? No sir, it was Andretti, who rammed Wendlinger off. McLaren may had a good TC, but still, you needed skills. Andretti saw how Senna went by Wendlinger and obviously tried to do the same, but in his comlpetely blinded mind forgot, that this only was his 3rd GP and that he messed his two previous starts aswell. Watch San Marino GP, what he did and he nearly took Wendlinger out too
@1greenMitsi I hope you do realize using words like 'fucktard' makes you look a huge imbecile? I don't respond properly to people like that, shittard...(wtf..."fucktard"?? really?? what were you even thinking...:D F* LOSER)
@wimpiedimpie makes me look like an imbecile? I dont see my picture attached anywhere...maybe you mean it makes my youtube account name look like an imbecile? yep...fucktard...you. You dont respond to ppl like that? ohhhhh...my loss
@wimpiedimpie Hahaha! Sure... How nice to finally meet someone who knows it all. Senna indeed had a superior car, software and so on. Especially compared to those lame Williamses that where driving around. If anyone had an advantage (maybe even a little illegal someone wispered) thanks to his car compared to others, is was Schumacher. But heck... I don't know a thing about it, as I clearly think Senna was a SUPERIOR to Schumacher. ^^
@MarcBGood72 Ow no, you do realize this command literally destroys the credibility of your other f1-related commands right?...Verstappen...really? Kidding right? One of the biggest losers of all time in f1, he would have made a good boxer for sure (remember that time he hit a 16 year old amateur kid in the face 'cause the kid lapped him in a kart race? :D), but F1 racer...no man, nooooo...
@wimpiedimpie What have you been watching? MotoGP or something? Verstappen may not have been the best driver, but he sure did know how to start. With a underpowered car he often had the most overtakings during the start. Denying that is being ignorant and proud of that fact. So eat it mate... Get your facts together before saying such crap please.
@MarcBGood72 What the...ow wait, I get it now, you're dutch..dat verklaart al veel he :D, het was ook onmogelijk dat Verstappen één (niet-Nederlandse) fan zou hebben. Het gaat in de discussie om Schumi en Senna en gij komt hier af met uwe Verstappen... Kom aan jong, die kerel heeft misschien twee keer ne goeie start genomen, die suckte gewoon uberzwaar in alles dat die deed. Ik ga hier toch ook niet zitten verkondigen hoe geweldig D'Ambrosio wel is...
@OllyGaming that wasn't car control or a good start. that was ABS traction controll and all the other electronic aids that ONLY THE Mclarens had! andretti crashed in the first corner otherwise he also would have gone in a couple of laps from the back of the field to P2!
Alonso's was better (and I'm a Schumacher fan)
2010VinnieR 20 hours ago
*cough* europe 93 *cough*
AdamTheMan1993 1 day ago
micheal schumacher is the best ever
MidoSpeed1000 1 day ago
Alesi overtook 5 cars at start to lead at monza 96.
steviegbcool 1 day ago
senna took a whole lap while shumi took a long straight its called a start for a reason idiots
keytek9 1 day ago
It was like the F1 video games starts.
leomarasciulo 2 days ago
hmm... that helmet??? Rubens??
PhylipMorris 6 days ago
@PhylipMorris Schumacher had the blue helmet, he changed to full red later. If you didn't knew this, then you might wanna do some research, and watch some races on f1archives.
CitizenZon3 4 days ago
I'm sick of senna fanboys, I actually have a tattoo of ayrton on my left arm and have done for a while, since the film came out every F1 video i come on some little spunk is ranting about how senna is better than anyone else, senna was undoubtedly ONE of the greatest drivers that ever lived, but michael is wayyy up in the rankings with him. i wish that fucking film never happened now. have any of you even seen a full GP that senna raced in?
thatciggaweed 1 week ago
@thatciggaweed back when senna raced every driver had the possibility of finishing in the podium(unless you had a very very shit car). that was why senna had good scoring on races. unlike now, the car does more things than the driver. if F1 was like the 80s schumacher wouldnt have won 7 titles. that adding all the cheats and shit
V12Style 1 week ago
Best Start off the Line??? hahahahahah Do not make me laugh! Senna at Donnington Park the best start of the race of the F1!!! He dropped in 4th place went to fifth and before completing the first lap was already outpacing Prost and leading the race!
brvnodiaz 1 week ago
"Whenever you brake alesi I m gonna brake later" :D :D :D
gamber22 1 week ago
Senna Donnington '93,Alonso Spain '11 and Monza '11 so much better than this.
yakisiklijojuk123 2 weeks ago
@yakisiklijojuk123 This: 4 overtakes from the start to turn 1. Senna at Donington: passed at the start and overtook 4 cars in 1 lap. Alonso in Spain: 3 cars from the start to turn 1, and 2 cars in Monza, with KERS against cars with a crap KERS system.
blainyrules 2 weeks ago
@blainyrules Schumacher's overtakes 4 "crappy" car,Alonso overtakes 3 "fastest" car.And not only Alonso has KERS.All drivers has a KERS.Schumacher's this start is a good,but Senna and Alonso's start is the beginning of the most powerful cars.
yakisiklijojuk123 2 weeks ago
He had a good start because of KERS!!!
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like him or loathe him, anyone who cant see how good schu was, knows sweet fuck all about f1 and dont deserve the title of fans
TheMagnatar 2 weeks ago
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TheMagnatar 2 weeks ago
i'm sorry but 1993 donington park trumps all
CDUB8989 2 weeks ago
i'm guessing you've never seen europe 1993? senna was 5th at the start and was 1st on the first lap on a wet track
AdamTheMan1993 2 weeks ago
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borja922 2 weeks ago
Senna is the best!!!!
gammayamma 2 weeks ago
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Beneton had the same electronic traction control than Williams in 1994, both had not any. It is quite illustrating, that being Beneton under strong surveillance, when Schumacher returned in Jerez 94 he was superb, and was again the very best in the field.
No one discovered traction controls,only a not used Start Control,no cheating, only Schumi, the best driver in 1994. In "Senna" movie there are some mistakes and wrong information and this matter is one of the biggest mistakes in the movie
hunt2727 3 weeks ago
The title "best start" means of the start line into the first corner.
MegaDaveXD1 3 weeks ago 9
Not the best start...
illy1982 3 weeks ago
@illy1982 best senna
luisvarelacarvalho 3 weeks ago
haven't you seen any jean alesi starts. he had the best starts especially the one he had at italy 1996 when he started 6th and took the lead before turn 1
2willboi 3 weeks ago
Yuji Ide the best lol
Fuckdencio 3 weeks ago 2
However, Schumi is the best !
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Sammy95kor 4 weeks ago
Lets move on from the past and say. Alonso Spanish And Monza Gp Start 2011
BonakiD24 4 weeks ago
wow
JuliVioJuliVio 4 weeks ago
Ayrton gp de europa
BanderaaCuadros14 4 weeks ago
then you do not see Donington Park 1993 senna is the BEST!
IuriMoreira1 1 month ago 18
@IuriMoreira1 Well, Senna didn't have the best start then, as he dropped to 5th.
The rest however, was just pure awesomeness :D
jamie9000001 4 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1
Senna lost 2 places during the start in dunington. his first lap was undoubtedly the best lap ever in formula 1, but his start wasn't any good. typical "senna is best comment" on a schumacher vid. really gettin annoying
66Morti66 4 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1 Why are such party poopers like you on each Schumi-Video ? If you like Senna more, watch his Videos, Tributes etc. You say Donington Park 1993, I say "The Best Start In F1 History!!", you say Jerez 1997, I say Suzuka 1990! You say Monaco '84, I say Japan 1998 ! What else ? Schumi rules !
AnSch92 4 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1 but Sennas First Lap was in the wet...
MrCattivo69 3 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1 shut up. Always this dudes with this fucking Schumacher Senna comparisons. It sucks. You cant say who is better, but schumacher have more titles and Senna died. Yo cant know how it would have developed if Senna would be stil alive. So be quiet
MrResistancefreak 3 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1
urmm that was a lap?
Milenium412 3 weeks ago
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MsFormule1 3 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1 Who gives a fuck about Senna i mean what the fuck is it all you fucktards got with Senna??? Michael still better
Liqu1d16 3 weeks ago 2
@IuriMoreira1 and then you google Senna and Schumacher and wiki says one is 7mts underground, the other is x7 F1 WDC.. SUPREME!... not fair is it?
dario272 2 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1 yawn
TheMagnatar 2 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1 senna was a wanker!
JOHNSTONMARK4 2 weeks ago
@IuriMoreira1 Yeah but doesn't really apply here.
littlewelshcub 6 days ago
@IuriMoreira1 The title reads "Best start" Senna made a terrible start at donington. The rest of the lap however was sublime.
oR3LENTLE55o 5 days ago
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1greenMitsi 1 month ago
his traction control was probably illegal
1greenMitsi 1 month ago
@wimpiedimpie
Bennetton and Williams had TC, but Senna had no TC AND Manual transmission, not Semi-automatic like most others.
Nohjjohnthegreat 1 month ago
@Nohjjohnthegreat The MP4 / 8 was one of the best cars of 1993, Williams had an automatic transmission as Benetton and Ferrari, had a sophisticated active suspension and a fine TC, unfortunately, despite the best Senna had a handicap in the low power of the V8 Ford Coswoth (only mid-season as the most powerful version of HB Shumacher). Senna has been and will remain one of the greatest drivers of all time but one must be precise in what you write
minniminoprio 1 month ago
@Nohjjohnthegreat Okay mr Nohjjohnthegreat, that is the dumnest reaction on my command so far. Other reactions at least had some sort of interesting content, but you haven't even got your facts right in the slightest way...
wimpiedimpie 1 month ago
Class!
Takethatwanderers 1 month ago
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Senna ruined his 65 poles to get "only" 41 victories. Was he a quick driver then? Not so quick as Schumacher of course!
Schumacher got petroleum from his 68 poles, and achieved 91 victories!! Of course Schumacher was better, poles does not mean a shit! Come on Senna! Wake up! Wake up! The race is on Sunday kid! Were you misinformed?
Schumacher scored more points than you sice his 4rd race!!! Wake up Ayrton!
Schumacher is the real number one!!!
hunt2727 1 month ago
watch?v=EAsY93pN0kI - really best F1 start ever
funandfresh 1 month ago 2
So I like both Senna and Schumacher...what happens to me?
MorteEtDabo18 1 month ago
@MorteEtDabo18
Impossible. Your like of Schumacher cancels your like of Senna. If you keep liking both u will one day explode and become a black hole
1greenMitsi 1 month ago
@1greenMitsi What happens if I like Senna AND Prost? XD
S7r0ng3r 1 month ago
@S7r0ng3r nothing. Your just a dumb ass if you like both
1greenMitsi 1 month ago
@MorteEtDabo18 ... ure quite normal .... not insane.Just that.. and ai admire you.
zackjr 1 month ago
@MorteEtDabo18 I too like both of them
Semms we are just and error in the Matrix :D
AlejjSi 1 month ago
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bosshunterman 1 month ago
Ayrto Senna the best of all times... schumi is a great driver.
xLordKakashi 1 month ago
@xLordKakashi ... to me schummi is not better even than Prost.
zackjr 1 month ago
Why do the Senna widows always infest the Schumi vids, go and watch Spa 92, 95 and 97, or Spain 96, or best still, Hungary 1998, I dont think anyone could have done what Schumi did that day.
MisterArdAzNailz 1 month ago
@MisterArdAzNailz
yeah man schumacher has 7 world titles so he must be the best your totally right
1greenMitsi 1 month ago
watch?v=b6FGj2VaPTk&feature=related ... you watch this and see how schummi's fans wants to turn around the reality.
zackjr 1 month ago
@zackjr What, you mean how Schumacher overtook Senna so Senna tried to push him into the wall, and then shook his fist in impotent rage when he couldn't cause Schumacher to crash like he did to Prost in 1989 and 1990?
Dallas8844 1 month ago
@Dallas8844 ... that's the point. See the video again and see that Senna didn't see Schummi till he's beside to Senna. Then Senna did no try to hit Schummi. He just recovered cars control again. he was angry just because Schummi was agressvie ( as Senna always was). That wasnt normal to him. I admit he was a little cry baby, but he didnt try to hit Schummi.
zackjr 1 month ago
people want to invent .............. do u really think this start better than Donington ? Man .. and people say that Senna's fans are maniac.
zackjr 1 month ago
Against who ??? Senna did that lap against Schumacher, Prost and Hill ... with a worse car !!
zackjr 1 month ago
omg he overtaked 4 cars ¡¡¡...I remember one star where alonso overtake 6 cars with a worst car than shumi,it was in 2004 in indianapolis...
dogboyzz 1 month ago
This one was much better - youtube.com/watch?v=EAsY93pN0kI
TheAttitude2010 1 month ago
Schumi you legend :)
SweBroF1 1 month ago 8
lol what about Gilles Villeneuve :)
RedhotIta1 1 month ago
The best Start of the history have done Fernando Alonso in the 2006 season, in Hungaroring. He started in the last position, it's raining and ind the first lap, he overtaked 10 positions
segadoradumaiz 1 month ago
Listen I'm a Senna fan but don't get me wrong, but senna fucked his start up and managed to come back by the end of the lap. Here, Schumacher just made a really good start.
deadleg6 1 month ago
but the cars are so different today, M.S. is a typical oversteerer, but today cars with their new tyres prefers Driver they drive smooth and with more understeering (Button is the best of the guys). Especially the Mercedes are rough on the Pirelli tyres. They were not be able to improved this failure on this car enough. 3 years without f1 is like 10 years without f1 in the eighties
samothsamothsamoth 1 month ago
It´s so simple: Michael Schumacher is German! That tell us all, why it gives so many haters, often are the haters from UK. But i can speak generally for Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher, both are in there times the best Drivers. Ayrton had the ability to concentrate of one lap, Schumacher too, but maybe a little behind him... But the greatest edge about Michael Schumacher is, that he could a whole team so hard pushing, no other had this ability!
M.S is working hard today too,
samothsamothsamoth 1 month ago 2
Best start is still Verstappen in Malaysia 2001 from 18th to sixth.
5up3rhan5 2 months ago
Senna widows... go fuck you badly.
Kw12345ff 2 months ago
/watch?v=nHgnx9joBkU
pontexx 2 months ago
schumacher is a weasome driver too, but Senna, to me, till now is the best!, and is gonna be prety hard to some one take his place on that.
Giuseppeninja250 2 months ago
schumacher is the best racer of all times.f... senna and the other b......
carloss996 2 months ago
7th to 2nd just as good as 5th to 1st
RFCKB2K9 2 months ago
@RFCKB2K9 Can't you people realize that gaining positions at a START is much different then doing it in a LAP? It's a whole other matter.
LouieGee 2 months ago
@LouieGee may i just say in sennas race he screwed up the start. scchumacher made no mistakes
jfzclips 2 months ago
@jfzclips Senna didn't screw up... Schumacher tried to push him out of the track and both of them lost positions. By the way, Schumacher never made a brilliant race in his career (like Senna did in Portugal, 1985, with lots of world champions on the track) when he had real competition. His first brilliant race was in 1996, when he was practically alone in the field, his contenders were only the avarage Damon Hill and the rookie Jacques Villeneuve (who was never a top driver).
LouieGee 2 months ago
@LouieGee look just no ok. i cant be bothered getting in to this. i take you as a smart guy but what you say about schumacher is just plain thick. he is the best of all time end of
jfzclips 2 months ago
@jfzclips Sorry dude, but the people who REALLY know what they are talking about (drivers, team bosses, engineers) say that Senna was the best of all times.
F1 Racing Magazine made a poll with 77 of such people and guess what? Senna won.
Autosport made another one with 217 drivers and ex drivers and... guess what? Senna won?
Sorry, but that's the reality...
LouieGee 2 months ago
@LouieGee do you know how many of those drivers were absolutely spanked by schumacher and now are seriously jealouse!!!! lol you cant denie schumachers supiriority im afraid. 7 championships mate. thats the reality
jfzclips 1 month ago
@jfzclips How many of those 217 drivers were "spanked" by Schumacher? Not even 10, I'm afraid. Schumacher holds the majority of records in F1, but Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso (just to mention current drivers) would've done the same in his conditions (best car for 5 straight years and no competition at all for 4 straight years).
Jacques Villeneuve has won a title. His father Gilles hasn't. But even a blind mule knows Gilles was 100x better than his son. Numbers don't say it all...
LouieGee 1 month ago
@LouieGee look schumacher only had a good car for 5 years straight because he ''developed'' it. he did that. thats why he had a great car ok. and if you say why didnt his teamates challenge him for the title, thats because schumacher liked to drive a car that was completely unstable but lighting quick and his team mates just couldnt handle that power. if you say schumacher only won because of his car, then you say senna did aswell. 91 wins and 7 titles. thats something senna fans just cant denie
jfzclips 1 month ago
@jfzclips Sorry, but such thing as "Schumacher developed the car" is something you hear from people who doesn't know how Formula 1 works. The driver has little or nothing to do with the work of building a new car and the responsibles for doing this work are the engineers. The drivers only do little adjustments after the car is built, and if the car is not good there isn't much for the driver to do instead of coping with his bad car for the entire year.
LouieGee 1 month ago
@LouieGee my replie to this rather strange comment is everyone knows that schumacher developed the car to his driving style. i dont mean actually build it. i mean give the engineers data to build that car to his style. and your whole idea about just suffering for a whole year is stupid. explain schumachers and others fantastic comebacks from a bad start to the year. and the drivers have plenty of input into the car as they actually drive it.
jfzclips 1 month ago
@jfzclips Continuing: I mean, Schummy fans talk like if Schumacher drew the car from the drawing board. Schumacher didn't like the car "completely unstable", that's another ingenuous assumption. No driver likes an unstable car. Schumacher did like cars that were more "rear" than "front" cars, he preferred the car oversteering instead of understeering. That's far from being "unstable".
LouieGee 1 month ago
@LouieGee i have an interview of schumacher saying what type of car he wants for 2012
it says 'just give me the fastest car around a track, i dont car if its unstable, i can drive it' something mercedes havent latched onto yet. we all know that schumacher just wants shear speed and he dosent give a crap if that means he be practically driving on ice. everyone knows that
jfzclips 1 month ago
@jfzclips Continuing 2:
Senna had the best car in 1988 but his rival had the exact same equipment. In 1990 McLaren and Ferrari were in the same class (and Prost was at Ferrari) so he had real competition. In 1991, as Nigel Roebuck said, "[...]the first four races, all won by Ayrton Sennna. Won, moreover, by a car which should not have been winning."
As James Hunt said: "Williams was the class of the field all season and Senna was WC in an arguably inferior car."
LouieGee 1 month ago
@LouieGee ferrari were far from as good as maclaren in 1990. senna had the best car for four years. no two ways about it. williams were nowhere near either.now im not saying thats why senna won, i know he was a great driver but he was under the exact same conditions as schumacher was when he was dominating so ill say it again 'dont go saying schumi only won because of the car because that means senna did aswell end of
jfzclips 1 month ago
@jfzclips Continuing, 3rd and last:
Senna faced some serious competition in his 3 WC. Schumacher, on the other hand, from his 7 titles, had real competition in only TWO: 95 and 2000, when Williams and McLaren were up to the challenge.
LouieGee 1 month ago
@LouieGee the thing that really gets under senna fans skin is the cold hard evidence backing schumacher up. when we point it out all you can do is pretend you didnt see it or just make up stupid storys and denie it. there is just to much evidence showing schumacher is the best. and just to back up what ive said is the fact that there is so many senna fans dissing schumacher on his vids but ive never seen any schumacher fans dising senna on his vids. you all cant stand schumachers achievements
jfzclips 1 month ago
@jfzclips The frustating point about arguing with a Schummy fan is that they won't see anything beyond "numbers and records". It doesn't matter how obvious those things are. For ex: Senna DIED before having the chance of achieving what he would certainly achieve.
Senna would be 5x WC in Williams and then he would go to Ferrari. Ferrari had plans with SENNA to "resurrect", as they knew Senna was the best. They signed Schumacher because he was the best available after Senna died...
LouieGee 1 month ago
@jfzclips Yes, it´s simply terrible and tasteless! We have and had so great Driver and it´s really like a "Kindergarten" Senna "fans" I became many ashamed letters from Senna "fans". They don´t nothing about the complexity about the f1!
samothsamothsamoth 1 month ago
@jfzclips He made many testmiles with the Ferrari, that is an great edge. But the combination the package is most urgent. As Team you have to have the best carbuilder, best Team, best principal and of course best car and much luck!
samothsamothsamoth 1 month ago
hardly the best
rastamees 2 months ago
impressive
MW3insanity 2 months ago
alonso´s start at spain 2011 was better!
GetitOnJeff 2 months ago
beautiful
DarthSparhawk 2 months ago
and please don't forget about Alonso 2006 Hungary on heavy rain, outstanding.
alvarokas 2 months ago 2
may I also put forward Didier Pironi at Monza 1981....from 8th to 2nd on the first lap
hugodrax71 2 months ago
@hugodrax71 Pironi also went from 1st to murderer once
Sisound 2 months ago
@Sisound not a great comment
hugodrax71 2 months ago
@hugodrax71 I was kidding dude
Sisound 2 months ago
SENNNAAAA!!! SEENNNAAA!!! Ole, ole, ole, ole... SENNAA!!! SENNNAAAA!!! '93 Donington
tmmphono 2 months ago
Also, people always go on about how Senna at Interlagos in '88 where his gearbox had problems towards the end of the race, and say how it was the greatest win ever. I can think of some even greater victories than that. Focussing on the modern era, look at Schumacher in 1996 at Catalunya, in the wet, with his car stuck in gear for the majority of the race!
nickyp28 2 months ago
@nickyp28 I can think of a performance that blow not only Schumacher in Spain 96 and Senna at Donnington 93 and Interlagos 88. Sir Jackie Stewart at the 1968 German Grand Prix at the old Nurburgring, raced in heavy rain and fog, Sir Jackie decimated the field and won by over 4 minutes while suffering from a broken wrist. he said he was up to his neck in fear the whole time. Simply the greatest F1 drive. I don't buy into the Schu or Senna hype.
andrewgriffiths78 2 months ago
@andrewgriffiths78 Oh, I totally agree with you there. I was just trying to find a modern example, because pretty much everything pre-1990 makes F1 look very tame these days..
nickyp28 2 months ago
@nickyp28 Senna won in interlagos with a jammed gearbox in 91, in 1988 the Brazilian GP wasnt held here...and Schumacher didnt have a jammed gearbox in 96, it was his engine, that was running only on 8 or 9 cylinders. Schumacher however, drove a great race in Spain in 1994, jammed in 5th, but still not finishing far away from Hill...
AlejjSi 1 month ago
Senna fanatics seem to find their way onto every F1 vid. Yes Senna was brilliance, and yes it was a tragic loss for the world of Motor sport, but guys, it just gets boring, infact *yawns* zzzzzz
MrJBFan22 2 months ago
This was 1997 or?
Chicagoracer2 2 months ago
Senna in Donington is the best start ever...
ReaverDarth 2 months ago
@ReaverDarth crap start. good comeback. although i have seen much better
jfzclips 2 months ago
Alonso's one 2011 start in this circuit was better!
xBaphometHx 2 months ago
@xBaphometHx Schumacher took 5 places. Went from 7th to 2nd. Alonso took only 3. Alonso did excellently, but this is beyond that.
PJ2436 2 months ago
@PJ2436 In that era the Ferrari had more hp than the rest.
xBaphometHx 2 months ago
@PJ2436 Alonso went from 9th to 3rd at malaysia 09´
kyrios20001 2 months ago
@PJ2436 Looks a lot like he went from 7th to 3rd.
supercas46 2 months ago
@supercas46 Passed Coulthard later on, didn't he? Okay, that doesn't necessarily count as a start pass, but yeah.
PJ2436 2 months ago
Malditos pilotos-ninjas.....mal posso ver eles.....
andresen3igear 2 months ago
has siktir lan. tarihin en iyi startıymış
aksk34 2 months ago
jos verstappen is the best starter
swimboy1984 2 months ago
Good start but senna did better !
jclafi 2 months ago
What about Senna at Donington in '93 5th to 1st in 1 lap in pouring rain??
OllyGaming 2 months ago 43
@OllyGaming yes but thats not fair because god was driving
levrone007 2 months ago
@OllyGaming,
Well, that wasn't the most brilliant start. I believe Senna lost several places off the line. The lap was the best I've ever seen though but this is starts we're talking about or in other words the getaway off the line.
As for the video, I believe Schumacher has made several starts like these this year and I believe a few that were even better (more places won). So I'm not to sure this is the best start in F1 history.
Cain353 2 months ago
@OllyGaming On the initial start he lost a place.
MarkSweetus 2 months ago
@OllyGaming that was the best first lap.
antonelloateloanto 2 months ago
@OllyGaming They never heard about SENNA!! Poor people :D
ScubaAlpineDriver 2 months ago 2
senna 93 donington is better start
Sanyi71907991 2 months ago
@OllyGaming That is a lap, not a start.
TRAXXAS58 2 months ago 11
@TRAXXAS58 lol
MegaDaveXD1 2 months ago
@TRAXXAS58 a good first lap is more impressive than a good start . the start is part of the first lap . you have to carry that performance over a lap not a start . :P
mushrume 1 month ago
@OllyGaming That is the best race lap not race start
autorack1 2 months ago
@OllyGaming this is the BEST...that was the GREATEST!!!!
EVLGTR 2 months ago
@OllyGaming It wasn't the start itself, but Senna's awesome driving in the wet. The start itself was so-so. ;)
DarthSparhawk 2 months ago
@OllyGaming The title said "best start" not the "best first lap"....Yeah that was an awesome start by Senna, but the start wasn't that impressive....
bosshunterman 2 months ago
@OllyGaming Nothing more to say. HOLY WORDS
ild0tt0re46 2 months ago
@OllyGaming Senna was good in rain weathers
GCGodsCrusader 2 months ago
@OllyGaming Schumacher has done that a half a dozen times
Narutofan1000k 2 months ago
@OllyGaming In that same race, Barrichello went from 12th on the grid to 4th by the end of the first lap.
blainyrules 2 months ago
@OllyGaming No..that wasn't only the start, that was a complete lap, okay? F* Senna-wankers on every Schumacher-vid, goddamned. And btw, Senna was the only one was proper Traction control, that's why he managed to overtake them all. HA!
wimpiedimpie 2 months ago 16
@wimpiedimpie Williams had the best traction control and active suspension systems by far. Schumacher had an engine with 40 HP more and a better chassi than Senna's McLaren. The McLaren was a good car, but it was the third force of the grid.
LouieGee 2 months ago
@wimpiedimpie Yes, you should be right. He was probably using electronic aids in this race: watch?v=1hUWuR2Dj78 (btw in '94, Prost, Hill, Andretti also had traction control, as well MSC after Monaco => "The B193 was very advanced in the technological sense and featured active suspension, a semi-automatic transmission and traction control from the Monaco GP". And with 40 HP more than the McLarens.
tmmphono 2 months ago
@wimpiedimpie Do you forget that every other driver in the field had traction control and ABS aswell?
bob333336 1 month ago
@bob333336 Euhm, no...not every driver had one, and the ones that did had a tc that didn't work as good as Senna's in the wet. If Senna's teammate hadn't been rammed of in the second corner, we would have seen him on p2 after the first, second or maximum third lap.
wimpiedimpie 1 month ago
@wimpiedimpie How so? Where is your proof? How did Senna's traction control magically work better?
bob333336 1 month ago
@wimpiedimpie What...Andretti got rammed? No sir, it was Andretti, who rammed Wendlinger off. McLaren may had a good TC, but still, you needed skills. Andretti saw how Senna went by Wendlinger and obviously tried to do the same, but in his comlpetely blinded mind forgot, that this only was his 3rd GP and that he messed his two previous starts aswell. Watch San Marino GP, what he did and he nearly took Wendlinger out too
AlejjSi 1 month ago
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bosshunterman 1 month ago 2
@wimpiedimpie you mean the williams had active suspension and didnt have traction control? pull the other one fuktard
1greenMitsi 1 month ago
@1greenMitsi I hope you do realize using words like 'fucktard' makes you look a huge imbecile? I don't respond properly to people like that, shittard...(wtf..."fucktard"?? really?? what were you even thinking...:D F* LOSER)
wimpiedimpie 1 month ago
@wimpiedimpie makes me look like an imbecile? I dont see my picture attached anywhere...maybe you mean it makes my youtube account name look like an imbecile? yep...fucktard...you. You dont respond to ppl like that? ohhhhh...my loss
1greenMitsi 1 month ago
@wimpiedimpie Hahaha! Sure... How nice to finally meet someone who knows it all. Senna indeed had a superior car, software and so on. Especially compared to those lame Williamses that where driving around. If anyone had an advantage (maybe even a little illegal someone wispered) thanks to his car compared to others, is was Schumacher. But heck... I don't know a thing about it, as I clearly think Senna was a SUPERIOR to Schumacher. ^^
MarcBGood72 1 month ago
@MarcBGood72 And ehhh... Ever seen some Dutch dude named Jos Verstappen do his starts? By far better starts in a LEGAL and surely no superior car. ^^
MarcBGood72 1 month ago
@MarcBGood72 Ow no, you do realize this command literally destroys the credibility of your other f1-related commands right?...Verstappen...really? Kidding right? One of the biggest losers of all time in f1, he would have made a good boxer for sure (remember that time he hit a 16 year old amateur kid in the face 'cause the kid lapped him in a kart race? :D), but F1 racer...no man, nooooo...
wimpiedimpie 1 month ago
@wimpiedimpie What have you been watching? MotoGP or something? Verstappen may not have been the best driver, but he sure did know how to start. With a underpowered car he often had the most overtakings during the start. Denying that is being ignorant and proud of that fact. So eat it mate... Get your facts together before saying such crap please.
MarcBGood72 3 weeks ago
@MarcBGood72 What the...ow wait, I get it now, you're dutch..dat verklaart al veel he :D, het was ook onmogelijk dat Verstappen één (niet-Nederlandse) fan zou hebben. Het gaat in de discussie om Schumi en Senna en gij komt hier af met uwe Verstappen... Kom aan jong, die kerel heeft misschien twee keer ne goeie start genomen, die suckte gewoon uberzwaar in alles dat die deed. Ik ga hier toch ook niet zitten verkondigen hoe geweldig D'Ambrosio wel is...
wimpiedimpie 3 weeks ago
@OllyGaming that wasn't car control or a good start. that was ABS traction controll and all the other electronic aids that ONLY THE Mclarens had! andretti crashed in the first corner otherwise he also would have gone in a couple of laps from the back of the field to P2!
lambosforusal 2 months ago
@OllyGaming that wasn't an start, that was a first lap of racing...
stop comparing with senna please
nachof248 2 months ago
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fictiondnb 2 months ago
@fictiondnb simple, just don't watch it...
MegaDaveXD1 2 months ago 10
@fictiondnb You don't know anything about F1.....
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