looks like the royal navy are starting to do things differant, so this protects the skys, the carrers, when complete do most the attacking and defending the fleet an dont forget about the elite of the royal navy, the subs, the new astute is no push over an trafalger is still very good, who we planning on fighting with all this kit, or they planning on making big canal into centre of afganistan to help us troops. serious note the navy are awsome an deseve the best, royal britaina for ever
The Type 45 is designed to operate in a carrier battlegroup. Its main purpose is to provide area air defence. The task of anti-ship will rest upon the F-35.
I really can't see why the Navy didn't just but 15 Arleigh Burkes off the Americans and used the money they would have saved in building these to recruit the extra man power need to man them. That way we wouldn't have ended up with 6 half hearted attempts at destroyers. Before anyone chirps up, I do know what I'm talking about, 12 years in the RN says so!
15 arleigh burkes would have been an idea, but they need more man power and this could lead to more money than for new destroyers. type 45 aint a half hearted attempt you know it will be the most advanced destroyer until the zumahwat class si built - usa building only 3 of these btw :p
Arleigh Burkes are old tech now(20 year old design) and need double the crew that a Type 45 needs. SAMPSON is WORLD CLASS and is designed to protect the carriers and/or the amphibs from air attack.
The FSC will be the multi role ships for the RN. They'll even get a stretched version of the Type 45 with a much cheaper radar system that will have two helicopters and, hopefully, tomahawk or storm shadow fitted. Will most certainly have torpedoes and harpoon.
The Japanease did this. their license built Arleigh Burkes are known as the Kongo class. but I'm sure you are aware of this. Congrats on getting bigger Carriers.
I think so too, The AB's are a great all around design and don't lose much if any in the AWD mode to type 45 especially when it comes to radar. The aster 15 and 30 though is a great weapons system. I'm sure we could have adopted aegis to work with Aster in the AB's too.
Its sad they cut corners on this ship and don't have surface to surface missiles or even torpedos fitted...
The surface to air missiles are good (although the launcher is only 48 cell), but when you compare its overall capability (antiair + antishipping + antisubmarine + ground bombardment)with the US Arleigh Burke Destroyer, the 45 is somewhat lacking.
That statement is a copout. Equiping for a single function was the choice of penny pinchers who were too cheap to fit sonar/torpedos/missiles. It was built to fit them, and even has the space for them reserved for them. Its not that the extra space was used for air warfare equipment... its just empty. Saying "its an AWD" is thus nonsensical.
The 45 has the ability to be more, it has the space set aside to be more. It is just the parliament is too cheap to finance it properly, which I find sad.
And once the Royal Navy has built enough of these, like 2 or 3, they all go BOOM ;) Seriously though, the number of targets these things can engage at once is scary, really scary. Search "HMS Daring" for the videos of the launch of the first Type 45 a few months back.
looks like the royal navy are starting to do things differant, so this protects the skys, the carrers, when complete do most the attacking and defending the fleet an dont forget about the elite of the royal navy, the subs, the new astute is no push over an trafalger is still very good, who we planning on fighting with all this kit, or they planning on making big canal into centre of afganistan to help us troops. serious note the navy are awsome an deseve the best, royal britaina for ever
tangled1s 2 years ago
The Type 45 is designed to operate in a carrier battlegroup. Its main purpose is to provide area air defence. The task of anti-ship will rest upon the F-35.
ld871111 2 years ago
"Its sad they cut corners on this ship and don't have surface to surface missiles"
True, but do you know how many harpoon missiles we have fired in anger? Not a single one in thirty years
charleswharton 2 years ago
I really can't see why the Navy didn't just but 15 Arleigh Burkes off the Americans and used the money they would have saved in building these to recruit the extra man power need to man them. That way we wouldn't have ended up with 6 half hearted attempts at destroyers. Before anyone chirps up, I do know what I'm talking about, 12 years in the RN says so!
kerrin1977 3 years ago
15 arleigh burkes would have been an idea, but they need more man power and this could lead to more money than for new destroyers. type 45 aint a half hearted attempt you know it will be the most advanced destroyer until the zumahwat class si built - usa building only 3 of these btw :p
numba1danman 3 years ago
Arleigh Burkes are old tech now(20 year old design) and need double the crew that a Type 45 needs. SAMPSON is WORLD CLASS and is designed to protect the carriers and/or the amphibs from air attack.
The FSC will be the multi role ships for the RN. They'll even get a stretched version of the Type 45 with a much cheaper radar system that will have two helicopters and, hopefully, tomahawk or storm shadow fitted. Will most certainly have torpedoes and harpoon.
Strompy82 3 years ago
The Japanease did this. their license built Arleigh Burkes are known as the Kongo class. but I'm sure you are aware of this. Congrats on getting bigger Carriers.
kdraper2007 3 years ago
@kerrin1977
I think so too, The AB's are a great all around design and don't lose much if any in the AWD mode to type 45 especially when it comes to radar. The aster 15 and 30 though is a great weapons system. I'm sure we could have adopted aegis to work with Aster in the AB's too.
KnightOfChrist1 1 year ago
Its sad they cut corners on this ship and don't have surface to surface missiles or even torpedos fitted...
The surface to air missiles are good (although the launcher is only 48 cell), but when you compare its overall capability (antiair + antishipping + antisubmarine + ground bombardment)with the US Arleigh Burke Destroyer, the 45 is somewhat lacking.
MrDialup 3 years ago
IT's an AWD
Strompy82 3 years ago
That statement is a copout. Equiping for a single function was the choice of penny pinchers who were too cheap to fit sonar/torpedos/missiles. It was built to fit them, and even has the space for them reserved for them. Its not that the extra space was used for air warfare equipment... its just empty. Saying "its an AWD" is thus nonsensical.
The 45 has the ability to be more, it has the space set aside to be more. It is just the parliament is too cheap to finance it properly, which I find sad.
MrDialup 3 years ago
wow what a machine this is.
RULE BRITANNIA!
keegan323f 3 years ago
I was nearly run down by one of these things.
BamBogleBlaster 3 years ago
What defence systems? There are no defensive systems if we are talking about weapons like Shkval, or P-700
ComradeLynx 4 years ago
The aster can bring down the latest Exocet missiles. I think it can handle 60/70's russian missiles.
LordSilver2 4 years ago 4
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Sucks, this expensive ship can be destroyed by a cheap missile
ComradeLynx 4 years ago
well at least this looks a good ship.... the type 42s were crap.
Aquiredtaste23 4 years ago
Lol you know fuck all! They are great ships.
glennguagmire 4 years ago 3
my mum designed some of this ship.
katyandmurf 5 years ago
aah, the best destroyer in the world, and for 6 years to come...
yay 4 Britain :D
Tomooseisinthehoose 5 years ago
Question is the Type-45 available for export?
mav333 5 years ago
Who has 1 Billion to spend on for a dam ship?
I rather grab 40 Su-30MK series for 1B instead imho.
SDMOO 5 years ago
And once the Royal Navy has built enough of these, like 2 or 3, they all go BOOM ;) Seriously though, the number of targets these things can engage at once is scary, really scary. Search "HMS Daring" for the videos of the launch of the first Type 45 a few months back.
Toolpusher 5 years ago
Type 45 is the best AAW ship..
mav333 5 years ago
Whoa the T-45 Destroyer eh hehe not bad.
I like that French Horizon class more though but anyways cool dude.
SDMOO 5 years ago