Learn Chinese Online — Pinyin —Some hard to articulate

[FarewelI]

@ferschwanstain You do know that the Japanese language had its origin in ancient China, right?

[DrSpeakwell]

In a real spelling language, like English, the consonants can also be at the end of a pronunciation, such as the t,s in “cats”. In Mandarin, this is NOT true with the so-called consonants. And the so-called consonants in this video can each independently be a complete pronunciation, which is not true in a real spelling language, like English.

[DrSpeakwell]

The Chinese language is NOT a spelling language. There are NO consonants and Vowels in Chinese. Instead, it has 37 unique phoneme symbols to form 59 unique phonemes. In a real spelling language, like English, multiple consonants can be together and each giving out its own sound when pronouncing the word, like the s,p,r in "spring". Same with the vowers, like i, er in :tier". In Chinese, the so-called consonants can NOT be together w/ another so-called consonant. Pinyin is rubbish.

[alextangel3110]

difficult, but helpful. thanks.

[ferschwanstain]

fuck this shit, i rather learn japanese, by the time i learn this shit of pinyin i would have already mastered japanese, but not even began to learn chinese.

[finechico20]

what is the music in the background called?

[Suwandi]

Thanks for uploading!!!

[c1garcia]

omg, this helped more than anything I have tried until now!

[AnimenerdMuffin]

This video is so freaking helpful! Thanks so much! xie xie :3

[UltraViolencex]

This video was great, thank you!

[killua008008]

Thank you so much!

[Rblett]

This video only refers to the pinyin zi, ci, si, zhi, chi, shi

it ignores that the "ch" in "chu" has a different formation. It is not the "zh" or "ch" sound which generates the "r" sound, but the final "i" which does. Not to mention, that "r" is ONLY found in northern dialects such as in Beijing. You won't find the "r" anywhere else.

[Gwynsek]

@Rblett Thanks for this,even though I believe I can only learn to say some words in this language,you´ve helped me with important data about its phonemes !

[Rblett]

@Gwynsek Hehe, if you try, you can do anything! The analytic and tonal Chinese tends to be more difficult for people used to descriptive stressed Western languages, but anything is possible with the right amount of instruction and effort. :)

[Gwynsek]

@Rblett That´s really kind of you,thanks but I know I will master just a few characters at the most and,if ever,to just muddle through with my pronunciation of the tones,laughs.

[manueldaman]

The only problem with this vid is that the mouth diagrams suck ass, and therefore don't help.

[yiukristy]

thx so much

[UniverseOnQuelThelas]

fuck me

[LMarkoG]

"R" is not impossible, is like an "r" in english but putting your mouth like to pronounce "j"

[TheCrazyStudent]

@LMarkoG

The "r" is part of the retroflex series of sounds (sh, ch, zh, r - you can see in this video that the tongue position is the same for these), whereas "j" is not a retroflex sound at all.

Therefore, "j" and "r" has no connection at all in regards to tongue position.

I have never heard any English speaker pronounce their j's with the same tongue position as a Chinese retroflex sound. :)

[ClassicTVMan81]

@LMarkoG

Kind of an "r+zh" sound, ain't it?

[MrIlovedramaseries]

omg this is so hard... im gonna keep practicing until i get it all right!!! i know its gonna take me a long time but i know it will pay off!

[robertgenito]

day 1: watch this video 8 times.

day 2: watch this video 4 times.

day 3: watch this video 2 times.

day 4: watch this video once.

as long as you keep practicing it (by talking or whatever) you'll pick it up well and quickly :)

[mlmg10]

Excelent!

[saffieyz]

wow thankyou!!! so helpful :) i'm having difficulty properly saying and differentiating between j and q...to me they sound the same :s  could someone help at all please?

[TheCrazyStudent]

"j" and "q" is basically the same sound, except that "j" is unaspirated and "q" is aspirated. You can clearly see a relation between many of the aspirated and unaspirated konsonants. aspirated - unaspirated p - b t - d k - g c - z q - j ch - zh sh - r "s" and "x" are both aspirated and doesn't really have an unaspirated equivalence. If you try to say "s" in an unaspirated way, it sounds very close to "z" and if you say "x" unaspirated it sounds very close to "j".

[VictimOfBoredom]

Very helpful post, but what's the difference between 'j' and 'zh', 'q' and 'ch', and 'x' and 'sh'?

[TheCrazyStudent]

@Victim:

The three s-sounds are 's', 'x' and 'sh'.

The three c-sounds are 'c', 'q' and 'ch'.

The three retroflex initial consonants are 'sh', 'ch' and 'zh'.

It's possible to build a horizontal/vertical chart where you, for example, have the sound relation horizontally (e.g. s/x/sh) and the tongue-position relation vertically (e.g. sh/ch/zh).

sh / ch / zh are retroflex sounds, which involves putting the tongue pretty high up in your mouth. This video sums it up pretty well, I think.

[TeppeiDog1]

quite helpful! i was unsure about c and s.

[Mim3HarryPotter4ever]

R is impossible!!!! IT REALLY IS!!!! I still pronounce it like the japanese R!!!!

[Auderianu]

Don't overexaggerate.  :/

[coolsteven2]

teach me!!! i can teach u how to do the Chinese R and u teach me the Japanese R

[BabyBooGirl1]

this suck

[film4thefuture]

This is helpful, but why couldn't you get a real person's voice?

[slicerguitar]

It is a real person's voice, it's just a lot of different audio samples cut together into one piece. Don't ask me why, though.

[katlady10]

@slicerguitar

there are voice audio programs that have different sounds/words voice recorded. You can enter a text, and the program with produce audio from the recorded sounds. I use a program called "TextAloud" to "listen" to Japanese or chinese text off the web.

[rexkwondo4life]

If Steven Hawking was a panda who wanted to teach you Chinese...

Seriously, though, this was a good video, thanks.

[00SEKHMET00]

This is nice, it's good to see the position of the tongue. The computer voice is a little scary though, heehee.

[HongKongPhooey89]

Very good visual of how to pronounce some of the more difficult pinyin. Thanks!

[q8female]

wow it's nice and very helpful

thank you