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  • The Church & it's buisness is like soap opera's, & many people will lose their souls over foolishness. Everyone that heard of 'Chirst', know's that he is the only one that can save souls! Yet, when people who aren't serious with their salvation, & get caught, then they are judged by " Mankind'. The word say's not to judge, & individuals do opposite of the word. Get to know God for yourselves. When service is over, people are different @ times. But God will always be the same! Merciful & Just!

  • I thought the church was about gathering together hearing the word of God, praying, and having a intimate relationship with God. Church=Business=Money to keep it going. SAD:-(

  • Riva Tims wasn't and still is nothing but a gold digging Hoe..

    Where the fuck was she when her ex husband was fucked up and dead.

    I believe if she was doing her fucking part as a wife that marriage would've never ended in Divorce. Riva is the EX Wife so she need to be Excommunicated.

  • @theright1allthetime Her Ex Husband cheated with a Vietnamese stripper.

  • People should not use religion to say that everyone should be rich and its gods will for all to be extremely wealthy, this is what paula does and that is why she should not have any ministry at all. Whatever happens to pastor tims church will just happen because much like paula whites ministry, he greatly profited from his international show. Just let them all fight it out like dogs.

  • This is ridiculous. Tims wife is embarrassing herself. Its Gods church. Just move on and raise your kids. They are dealing with the death of there father due to drugs. Riva get your house in order first then worry about ministry. If its in Gods will you will have another chance.

  • the early church fighting and modern day church fighting,...exactly WHERE is G-D in all this?.....exactly!!!,. NOT in that mess. organized religion, for real!!! has LOST it.

  • Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

  • I see her and all I can hear is JEZEBEL.

  • THIS IS SO PITIFUL, THE PITIFULLEST! WOMAN THOU ART LOOSED, THANKS TD SNAKES, OPPS I MEAN JAKES. THEY ON THE LOOSE AND NEED TO SIT DOWN, THE OLDER WOMEN R 2 TEACH THE YOUNGER 1'S 2 LOVE THEIR HUSBANDS, KEEP THE KIDS AND THE HOUSE-WOMEN'S MINISTRY.

  • Read your previous statement sir or madam. You made a statement of Assumption. Accept TRUTH.... . I posted an initial comment to RINGO and you started responding AS IF YOU"RE HIS WIFE or whoever. I don't get it... anyway....Chill... whoever you are. I'm done, no time for back & forth or immaturity and there's no need to respond. I'm trying to win souls, not attack or judge others. Peace & Blessings to You.

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  • @darealis1 Dear madam/sir,it's obvious from your response to those who quoted scriptures barring women from pastoral office,that you have fallen for feminist lies knowingly/unknowingly.It's evident from your comments like "get a life",mind your own bussiness" etc.So accept reality,repent and come back to the true religion of God which is non feminist protestantism.God bless you.

  • @alnimrod84 Once again you ASSume (from a response) without asking me. Therefore, I refuse to continue to reply or respond to IGNORANCE, UNLEARNED & UNINFORMED ASSumptions. But if you wish to ASK me so that you will KNOW what I believe I am available. Other than that I re-state GET A LIFE bruh or sis. Lol!!!!!!!!!

  • @darealis1 I didn't ASSume anything about you,but your own comments reveal about your thoughts.So dear madam/sir better not fight,and instead obey God's commandments,for that is all that is needed.(ecclesiasticus)

  • @alnimrod84 Lol !!!!!!!!!!

  • @darealis1 God bless you dear madam/sir...

  • Wow just now hearing about this.

  • @Ringo - An even better analogy bro: Paula is like the white woman stealing the black woman's man. This only further demonstrates that churches are not raising up young men of God. How on earth can a pastor die and there be not one qualified man to take the mantle? At the end of the day, you said it best. Neither of the ladies are Biblically qualified to pastor so if they go either route, it still will be to no avail.

  • The same way you can assume something about me without ANY knowledge of me. Take the time to think before you leap sir. I'm done with the immature back & forth. I Corinthians 13:11

  • RINGO THE MESSAGE OF THIS VIDEO IS RIGHT BUT PLEASE JUST SHUT UP YOUR A HUGE DELUSIONAL DOUCHE BAG! I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE PARTS OF THE BIBLE ARE STRAIGHT FROM THE LORD BUT I DONT KNOW ABOUT ALL. I GUESS YOU ALSO BELIEVE THE PART WHERE THE GUY SAID THE LORD TOLD HIM TO KILL INFANTS AND BABIES? DID THE LORD TELL YOU EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE DOCUMENTS OF THE BIBLE WERE RIGHT? BECAUSE IF NOT YOUR JUST A RELIGIOUS SLAVE. YOU AND TIREO SHOULD GET MARRIED YOUR BOTH DELUSION RETARD DOUCHEBAGS!

  • @TheTruthteller27 Are you holier than your creator?

  • This power struggle is not edifying to the Body of Christ.

  • @Vebrotube Female pastors,women not covering their head,immodest sexy dressing in the church etc. also doesn't edify the body of Christ.

  • Get A Life "RINGO" LOL!!!

  • @darealis1 repent

  • @Yaterde I do repent; daily bro. Do you?

  • @darealis1 how can you repent if you don't know the laws

  • @darealis1 Ringo obviously have a life in Jesus.It's you who deny scriptures and allow female pastors is the one who need Jesus and the eternal life he gives freely.

  • @alnimrod84 Whoever you are; you are making an ASSUMPTION without information about what I believe. You have never had a conversation with me AT ALL. But yet you ASSUME I deny scripture and believe in women Pastors. Which neither that you stated are true. Sorry, once again. Praying for you both to go out and win souls and quit wasting your time attacking people while people next door to you are going to hell. Selah

  • @darealis1 i didn't assume anything about you.Seeing the state of church in west,which has accepted feminist lies for God's truth,i said so,since nobody seems to be saying or enforcing scriptural commandments with their God givenpower and authority.Sorry if it offended you,God bless you.

  • WOW

  • Let the power struggle begin........lawsuit? really?

  • What a shame.. yuk

  • Nothing these Churches practice is about scripture. They are not sat up to serve The Most High, only self gain. She said Real Mother of the Church, she couldn't even be a good wife.

  • So she decided to not sue? LOL

  • When I saw Jamal Bryant, Paula White, and Riva Tims walk into that church after Zachary Tims dearth I knew this would end in destruction and disgrace.

    It is clear that some sort of arrangement was made whereby they would use Riva to validate White's and possibly Bryant's insertion in the church. White being a demon of the highest order played the game better than Timms and by the video Hilliard too and came out on top.

    There was some Pastor in India that used to defend Riva, where is he now?

  • Real mother she says huh?

  • they all have one thing in common...prosperity pimps

  • Jezebel cat fight!

  • confirms his murder

  • All about business not ministry

  • THIS IS OUTRIGHT SHAMEFUL!!!...For the people of God to be fighting over power in the church before unbelievers. Just look at all the negative comments listed...It's no wonder why folks are "forsaking the fellowship with the saints in the church" and staying home. We are definetly in the last days!!!

  • Riva Tims can't fight this in court because of a Marital Settlement she signed in '09 releasing her from pursuing the board members... So basically the court thing can't happen...

  • What was actually the cause of Zachary Tims' death? Did he got an heart attack? I mean, he doesn't look that old to me. Very fishy...

  • @Skaz32225

    If it was a "heart-attack" they would've had no problem letting us know.

    Tims died of AIDS, POSION, DRUG OVERDOSE.

    What ver was the cause, it would bring shame upon his church and family. This is why they're hiding the cause of death. One day it may come out.

    I believe he died by poison or was purposely injected with the AIDS virus and died that way to may it look like his pass sexual sins caught up with him.

    Tims was purposely murdered to gain hold of his empire & flock.

  • ha ha ha a bunch of crooks fighting over power the more they are exposed the greater i believe in torah

  • This is why I left organized religion.

  • its all about the money

  • And its only going to get worse. SMH

  • If Riva Rivers already have a church, then why is she complaining?

    See people, this isn't about a Church or saving souls, its about the money they make off the slaves.

    If people love Riva so much all they have to do is go to her church.

    If the truth be told, either Riva Rivers or someone at the top of TBN had something to to with Tims Death and there plan was to take over his church.

    Now look at how they're all fighting.

    They chose Paula cause she will run the business & bring new members.

  • People will do anything for money. I don't support any of this but if the board voted without her say then she had no control of it to be the "mother". She was his ex-wife not his widow so she needs to sit down somewhere and take her angry flock of females.

  • wow fighting over a position yep thats church folk!!!

  • When I heard the news about this all I could say was "AAH HAAAAAAA!!!!" ROTFL!!!

  • This is an ugly thing... But exposure has to come so folk can see the Almighty for who He truly is..

  • Ringo, When you're right, you're right. The christian institutional "churches" like this one ... SMH

    One word #MAMMON

  • All will hv to answer for this!!

  • Do ye not know that the Saints shal judge the world?and if the world shall be judge by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that ye shalljudge angels? how mch more things that pertain to this life.ICor.6:1-6. I have count my lost during my years in Ministry, and forgive those who wrongfully done me wrong both fanancialy and by slanders I konow my Father will reward me in the end. Are these women really servants of our Father? why so much desobedience before the unjust?

  • What is wrong with this picture? If she is anointed by Father it will make room for the blessings. Why go to court, and run the house of the Lord like a business. Matter in fact what is wrong with Christians today? they want to be deceived, & blindsided. I can't judge Pastor Riva, but didn't she divorced her husband? It is just a building, We are the true church our bodies are the temple of Holy Spirit. Dare any of you having a matter against another go to the unjust, and not before the Saints.

  • It's really time to wake up.

  • Okay here we go! These christian's are about to loose there minds!! Riva stood back thinking she was going to get this church, she don't understand the politics, that church belongs to the TBN Illuminati and they sent Paula to take the church because they own it!! simple as that. Riva can forget trying to fight it cause she' s not going to win, the TBN clan has the money to pay big lawyers. It was all the plan from the start just as Ringo said.

  • @newnewjuice I agree with your statement: "that church belongs to the TBN Illuminati and they sent Paula to take the church because they own it!!".

  • This rests on the shoulders of the Board for allowing this to get this far. This is only a business and they wanted someone who could con people into giving them all their money.

  • one word..."sheeple"...smh

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  • Whores of Babylon

  • These women need to sit their tails down and stop trying to be men.

  • @pcmiler2000 AMEN!

  • I TOLOD YALL THE WIFE WOULDNT GET THE CHURCH LOL

  • I thought Riva had a Church of her own already. SMH

    Also, what do she mean by she's "the real mother"? Where is that in scripture?

    No woman should be a Pastor over a Church anyway, so both of them are out of order.

    I told people a while back that Riva want that church cause deep down inside she alway did.

    For her to see Paula take over the church it just like a woman seeing her husband in bed with another woman.

    That church is her bed and she see another woman enjoying the her man.

  • @RINGO4LIFE Where's Paula White husband if I may ask her that question? I wonder what she will say....

  • @RINGO4LIFE When I heard her say "she is the real mother" I said oh my gosh she have the spirit of Jezebel

    ALL females in the pulpit are of Satan the MOST HIGH DO NOT dwell in FILTH

  • @RINGO4LIFE Riva is way sexier and more pleasing to the eye.She could really fleece that flock if she wants.

  • LOVE it!  'Preciate you for sharing this with us, Ringo! :)

    Shalom. :)

  • 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression..... in other words.... SHUT THE FUCK UP WOMAN!!!

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  • These folk of New Destiny really have the slave mind, they act like they can't leave and just go to Riva Tims. That would settle this whole matter. Paula White would not even try to stay at that church if their is no one there to hear her preach. It's all about the money. They are really fighting over those tithing and offering members. Like I said on another post, Once the massa get cha on the plantation you ain't never getting off.

  • Both of these "women" are absolutely ridiculous!

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  • LoL!!!! You were right from the beginning Ringo! 

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