my comments were in reference to east timor in 2000 basically it was a race to get the first kill. also keep in mind the day u leave inf iet theoretically u can be placed on the battlefield that means the military has changed your psycological profile human biengs are not machines. for those whom have lost someone close due to the military maybe u will see my point of view.
I dont think what I did in East timor 2000 was Peace keeping . roe determins weather its peace keeping or not , rules of engagement when u can shoot and when u cant
We can be trained better after 1992 the training got softer to keep the numbers up...no more mine fucking so keeps the soft cocks in and they are no good for combat
It was the dutc that did'nt fight back against the Serbs and got all those locals slaughtered in Sebrinicia. Bloody homo's.......and they are homo's!!
the anxiety and rage this video has stirred is amazing, it would have only posed an operational security risk, had it A: Named the exact location B: Named the soldiers present C: Released patrol tactics in detail and it did none of the above.
It is just four soldiers filming a part of their patrol to send home and look 'war like' nothing more, harmless footage.
im in the new zealand army. we're seriously not that great. We used to be but our standards have definently slipped. New Zealand army is soft. Too much political correctness ruining it for everyone, plus not enough funding. Believe it or not though the recession has been a good for us as it has allowed the recruiters to be picky with who they let in.
@volcblo ahaha really ? is that why our SAS is 1# along with the UKSAS and SASR ? SAS is all in one catagory buddy.The NZDF is a peaceful army we dont go around blowing everything up like americans.If our army was so shit why was rommel scared of us in WW2 and not the americans ? why did barrack obama say he was impressed what our country did in Vietnam ? and thats why he wants more NZ troops in AFG.I bet your a 12 year old aussie kid taking over the ditch rivalry to seriously
@WRH90059 Im not talking about the sas. im talking about the regular force, did you know that recruits are allowed there cell phones on basic now? and press ups aren't meant to be given as punishments? oh wow we're such a fantastic army
. But we must be good, I mean, Obama wants more kiwis over there? No shti hot shot, its not like hes going to ask us to send our troops home is he? hes trying to fight a war. Dick head.
@WRH90059 3rd battalion? what battalion is that? TF? you don't know shit. our training is mediocre. probably good enough to get the job done, i'll give you that but we definently arent good soldiers. I left the regular force on Friday. i know the nz military. oooo timor. enjoy your timor solidarity medal chump, i got one too.
@volcblo i was talking about my medal i was talking about Lieutenant Timothy who was killed 2 nights ago in afghanistan in an ambush,He was a kiwi with who was awarded the DSD for saving the lives of people in east timor.
Your no kiwi soldier they teach you to respect buddy,Are you one of thos gangsters who join to play with guns ? you talk like it and act like it.
The only reason troop quality has dropped is because of thug retards from gangs join to shoot shit
@WRH90059 I wasn't aware of the death of this lieuy, which sucks but I'm not talking about that, ive been talking about the quality of our training and you well, youve really just attacked me? a thug who joined to play with guns? Im an FE, dolt. I do respect my buddies, I fuckin love my mates that are still in to bits and if there was a conventional war id be back in, in a second. You aren't my buddy though, your a TF loser with a hard on for the army that is too proud to see any fault in it.
@volcblo Wow your call me a loser,im so offended lol You probably think our training is shit because you were probably stuck with those otara gangsters thinking they get to shoot and blow shit up in your training.We had one guy who though he was funny he was kicked out of training with no hesitation.
I got asked why are you here?I replied "because you woke me up to make us fuking cold".I had to do the run x2 + pushups and i got warning.
@volcblo im not disagreeing with training quality lowering over the years.But i think its becasue S.Sgt's cant be fucked putting up with the thugs that join.
And,because NZ isnt training for war,we are training to peace keep and reconstruct war torn countries.If ww3 broke out you would see the Troop quality raise.Since NZ isnt reallty commited to major conflicts our troops training shouldnt need to be of high standard like the U.s Marines or british regs
@WRH90059 Our Soldiers are highly trained and skilled easily on par with British regs and US Marines. They use just as good equipment aswell. Our soldiers still train for full out WAR. Unlike many Kiwis they don't live with their heads in the sand thinking everything will always be hokie dokie. They train for the worst. I know; my borther is a Reserve Combat Engineer and he trains in everything from riot control to fullscale fortified position assualts, firefights and demolitions.
@ginjaninja1988 I know im in the NZDF with 1st battalion NZIR linton military base.
Our training is no where near as good as the US marines,Buddy the marines are the best shock troops in the world i should know my cousin was a marine he fought in fallujah.
I had the same training as your brother except im not a reserve =)
the hearts and minds policy was first created by the SAS but it works well in any environment. You don't need to always have your weapons at the ready because it makes you look hostile. therefore our NZDF is a PEACEKEEPING force
Low threat environment. They are TOLD not to patrol with the weapon at the raedy position. No cam paint. Walking along a trail - all the cardinal 'No No's' of a tactical patrol. But this is deliberate!!!!!!!!! They are adopting a non-aggresive posture as part of the 'hearts and minds' policy.
Do Not make the mistake of thinking this is how Kiwi soldiers operate in a tactical environment.
@kiwitedferny in a tactical environment we will fuck you up if your the enemy =D dont try us we where the 1st in the world to create trenches according to known history , so you never know what tricks us kiwis will pull out of the bag , NEW ZEALAND FCK YEA! hahaha nah im just playing i love every one of you =D woot woot love for all but its true dont fuck with us new zealanders or your in for a ass wooping. hehe
lol yea we dont do much there basically just show up with guns and tell everyone to behave and if you dunt we may have to shoot you. its not technically a warzone if it was they wuldnt be strolling.
Well my Tanky mates who went to Bosnia within the year off basic 290 were fired apon but still had a no fire policy unless fired upon...but how would they know what a direct threat was when the defense force chief implements that strategy to be a peacekeeping force in the most hostile place on earth at that time!
because peacekeepers dont attack untill they are threatened they are there to keep the peace not to go in gung-ho like america. new zealands forces are sent to hostile places to do exactly what they are doing here, show a military presence to try and deter violence. but if they are fired upon they have the right to shoot back and eliminate trouble makers.
I thought you might like a more comprehensive answer to your question on wether NZ has a Marine Corps. Well no we don't. Our military was restructured into a single organisation called the New Zealand Defence Force which comprises of our 3 armed services. The Royal New Zealand Navy, Royal New Zealand Air Force and the New Zealand Army. All 3 are seperate services but operationally and strategically report to NZDF command. SF is the NZSAS which is part of the army but open to all NZDF personel:)
my comments were in reference to east timor in 2000 basically it was a race to get the first kill. also keep in mind the day u leave inf iet theoretically u can be placed on the battlefield that means the military has changed your psycological profile human biengs are not machines. for those whom have lost someone close due to the military maybe u will see my point of view.
stusurf1 1 month ago
its called the geneva convention did we forget that ? fuck?
stusurf1 5 months ago
I dont think what I did in East timor 2000 was Peace keeping . roe determins weather its peace keeping or not , rules of engagement when u can shoot and when u cant
stusurf1 5 months ago
We can be trained better after 1992 the training got softer to keep the numbers up...no more mine fucking so keeps the soft cocks in and they are no good for combat
XS750RACING 5 months ago
It was the dutc that did'nt fight back against the Serbs and got all those locals slaughtered in Sebrinicia. Bloody homo's.......and they are homo's!!
GILBERHE 1 year ago
well that was shit
TemakariniM 2 years ago 2
the anxiety and rage this video has stirred is amazing, it would have only posed an operational security risk, had it A: Named the exact location B: Named the soldiers present C: Released patrol tactics in detail and it did none of the above.
It is just four soldiers filming a part of their patrol to send home and look 'war like' nothing more, harmless footage.
thenewtemplars 2 years ago
thats NZ whole army in that video there.....
HHAHAH joking if you cant take that as a joke your gay
GO THE ANZACS
GrandTheftFreedom 2 years ago 3
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New Zealand army is a fucking joke.
volcblo 2 years ago
no your a fucking joke, my NZ allies saved australia in WWII
aussieblackhawk123 2 years ago 3
im in the new zealand army. we're seriously not that great. We used to be but our standards have definently slipped. New Zealand army is soft. Too much political correctness ruining it for everyone, plus not enough funding. Believe it or not though the recession has been a good for us as it has allowed the recruiters to be picky with who they let in.
volcblo 2 years ago
Realy mate!...fuck when i was there it was well known that you either had it or you did'nt, shame on the Army ethos,
trippytril 2 years ago
Mind sending me a personal message about this posting?
agsibarani 2 years ago
@volcblo ahaha really ? is that why our SAS is 1# along with the UKSAS and SASR ? SAS is all in one catagory buddy.The NZDF is a peaceful army we dont go around blowing everything up like americans.If our army was so shit why was rommel scared of us in WW2 and not the americans ? why did barrack obama say he was impressed what our country did in Vietnam ? and thats why he wants more NZ troops in AFG.I bet your a 12 year old aussie kid taking over the ditch rivalry to seriously
WRH90059 1 year ago
@WRH90059 Im not talking about the sas. im talking about the regular force, did you know that recruits are allowed there cell phones on basic now? and press ups aren't meant to be given as punishments? oh wow we're such a fantastic army
. But we must be good, I mean, Obama wants more kiwis over there? No shti hot shot, its not like hes going to ask us to send our troops home is he? hes trying to fight a war. Dick head.
volcblo 1 year ago
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WRH90059 1 year ago
@WRH90059 3rd battalion? what battalion is that? TF? you don't know shit. our training is mediocre. probably good enough to get the job done, i'll give you that but we definently arent good soldiers. I left the regular force on Friday. i know the nz military. oooo timor. enjoy your timor solidarity medal chump, i got one too.
volcblo 1 year ago
@volcblo i was talking about my medal i was talking about Lieutenant Timothy who was killed 2 nights ago in afghanistan in an ambush,He was a kiwi with who was awarded the DSD for saving the lives of people in east timor.
Your no kiwi soldier they teach you to respect buddy,Are you one of thos gangsters who join to play with guns ? you talk like it and act like it.
The only reason troop quality has dropped is because of thug retards from gangs join to shoot shit
WRH90059 1 year ago
@WRH90059 I wasn't aware of the death of this lieuy, which sucks but I'm not talking about that, ive been talking about the quality of our training and you well, youve really just attacked me? a thug who joined to play with guns? Im an FE, dolt. I do respect my buddies, I fuckin love my mates that are still in to bits and if there was a conventional war id be back in, in a second. You aren't my buddy though, your a TF loser with a hard on for the army that is too proud to see any fault in it.
volcblo 1 year ago
@volcblo Wow your call me a loser,im so offended lol You probably think our training is shit because you were probably stuck with those otara gangsters thinking they get to shoot and blow shit up in your training.We had one guy who though he was funny he was kicked out of training with no hesitation.
I got asked why are you here?I replied "because you woke me up to make us fuking cold".I had to do the run x2 + pushups and i got warning.
WRH90059 1 year ago
@volcblo im not disagreeing with training quality lowering over the years.But i think its becasue S.Sgt's cant be fucked putting up with the thugs that join.
And,because NZ isnt training for war,we are training to peace keep and reconstruct war torn countries.If ww3 broke out you would see the Troop quality raise.Since NZ isnt reallty commited to major conflicts our troops training shouldnt need to be of high standard like the U.s Marines or british regs
WRH90059 1 year ago
@WRH90059 On that note we can agree. excellent rant we got going there compadre.
volcblo 1 year ago
@volcblo Indeed,Was a fun little Rant/debate we had going there.
Now thats kiwi for you fight each other then make up xD
WRH90059 1 year ago
@WRH90059 Our Soldiers are highly trained and skilled easily on par with British regs and US Marines. They use just as good equipment aswell. Our soldiers still train for full out WAR. Unlike many Kiwis they don't live with their heads in the sand thinking everything will always be hokie dokie. They train for the worst. I know; my borther is a Reserve Combat Engineer and he trains in everything from riot control to fullscale fortified position assualts, firefights and demolitions.
ginjaninja1988 1 year ago
@ginjaninja1988 I know im in the NZDF with 1st battalion NZIR linton military base.
Our training is no where near as good as the US marines,Buddy the marines are the best shock troops in the world i should know my cousin was a marine he fought in fallujah.
I had the same training as your brother except im not a reserve =)
WRH90059 1 year ago
@WRH90059 I'm a little confused lol.
You say your with 1st Btn NZIR which is indeed based at Linton, got many mates in it, but further down you said your 3rd Btn.
3rd Btn is Auckland and Northland Btn Group, and is also TF?
4lifeNz 11 months ago
@4lifeNz Yeh i was with 3rd for a while with Infantry,Charlie.Then i transfered to 1st with the regulars
WRH90059 11 months ago
the hearts and minds policy was first created by the SAS but it works well in any environment. You don't need to always have your weapons at the ready because it makes you look hostile. therefore our NZDF is a PEACEKEEPING force
Kelstar1001 2 years ago 2
Low threat environment. They are TOLD not to patrol with the weapon at the raedy position. No cam paint. Walking along a trail - all the cardinal 'No No's' of a tactical patrol. But this is deliberate!!!!!!!!! They are adopting a non-aggresive posture as part of the 'hearts and minds' policy.
Do Not make the mistake of thinking this is how Kiwi soldiers operate in a tactical environment.
kiwitedferny 2 years ago 15
@kiwitedferny in a tactical environment we will fuck you up if your the enemy =D dont try us we where the 1st in the world to create trenches according to known history , so you never know what tricks us kiwis will pull out of the bag , NEW ZEALAND FCK YEA! hahaha nah im just playing i love every one of you =D woot woot love for all but its true dont fuck with us new zealanders or your in for a ass wooping. hehe
masscreation 10 months ago
lol yea we dont do much there basically just show up with guns and tell everyone to behave and if you dunt we may have to shoot you. its not technically a warzone if it was they wuldnt be strolling.
boarderx113 2 years ago
Well my Tanky mates who went to Bosnia within the year off basic 290 were fired apon but still had a no fire policy unless fired upon...but how would they know what a direct threat was when the defense force chief implements that strategy to be a peacekeeping force in the most hostile place on earth at that time!
trippytril 2 years ago
because peacekeepers dont attack untill they are threatened they are there to keep the peace not to go in gung-ho like america. new zealands forces are sent to hostile places to do exactly what they are doing here, show a military presence to try and deter violence. but if they are fired upon they have the right to shoot back and eliminate trouble makers.
boarderx113 2 years ago 2
Oh yeah Peacekeepers they help people die like in srebrinica, the serbs killed 10.000 while UN forces did fuck all.
happymana 2 years ago
idiots. its a fucking blue patrol to make an appearance. completely non aggressive. its called peace keeping!!!
anarchist34 2 years ago 16
what the fuck happened to having 2 hands on your weapons and covering your arcs????
dion74nz 2 years ago
Does New Zealand have a Marine Corps like the U.S. does?
MitziDeMarco 2 years ago
No we have the SAS one of if not the best in the world
bonzo226 2 years ago 2
Thanks for answering my question. :-)
MitziDeMarco 2 years ago
I thought you might like a more comprehensive answer to your question on wether NZ has a Marine Corps. Well no we don't. Our military was restructured into a single organisation called the New Zealand Defence Force which comprises of our 3 armed services. The Royal New Zealand Navy, Royal New Zealand Air Force and the New Zealand Army. All 3 are seperate services but operationally and strategically report to NZDF command. SF is the NZSAS which is part of the army but open to all NZDF personel:)
ginjaninja1988 2 years ago
Get 2 hands on those fucken weapons
tipmortars 3 years ago
@tipmortars its a non agressive patrol,its called peace keeping buddy
WRH90059 1 year ago
watch out for the zombies hiding in the trees
GloomFate 3 years ago 3
gee just a walk in the park
VIV292 3 years ago
what more can you ask for
Erny123 3 years ago
fuckin what happend to two hands on the weapon? shot cherries made everyone look like chumps hope your csm sees this.
ohmygoditsnate 3 years ago
nice 2 c u guys covering ur arcs lol.
when was this? i probs was ther.
cjtill 3 years ago
i know that bird
stusurf1 4 years ago
fukn stop putn htis shit on th net opsec u fukn diks
Disturbed504 4 years ago
Shut up u muppet! What great OPSEC secret is being violated here?
bar797 4 years ago 4
fuk u!
Disturbed504 4 years ago
yea youre a knob, but you still didnt answer his question
travdogger 4 years ago 3
so :/
Disturbed504 4 years ago
kiwis pwn
halomania55 4 years ago 3
They were on an island called Malaita, i guess?.
tokzepplin 4 years ago
Kiwis mate not ozzies!
bar797 4 years ago 5