Very interesting. I'm wondering if this effect is related to triboelectric charging. All of your materials, however, are very close together in the tribo-scale (with the first one, aluminum, at the lower end of the positive materials). That is, in descending order, aluminum, paper, and steel. You may get stronger potential differences by substituting different materials for your three elements. Also, you may get stonger effects by larger mass (bigger pieces, proportionately).
Just a thought, rather then DC, have you tried to measure AC voltage? This device should be able to pick up radiant energy quite well, but probably won't work as a storage device in that way, but more like a receiver or antenna like capacitor. You can use your kitchen sink faucet usually to get a good earth ground if you'd like to try and use this as a receiver.
Go do some research on the Seebeck effect. Aluminum has a Seebeck coefficient of 3.5, iron has a coefficient of 19. I suspect this is where your voltage is coming from.
Dissimilar metals, etc; another chemical battery. Just to be sure you get it: Eventually all of the metal oxidizes and your source of electricity is gone. Nothing left, nada. This in not free energy by any means.
You talk like you are an athority in electronics. Something tells me you didn't do so well in History class. Over half the telegraphs in the USA & Europe were run on simaler devices for over 50 years in the 1800's. Try goggleing Earthy battery.
I really don't understand the deffinetion of chemical energy well enough to say. But I don't believe in a free lunch. OH ! the food may be free, But, Some body is going to have to build a fire and cook it. I don't believe anyone is going to build a machine that creats energy from nothing. BUT;; There is Free energy all areund us. We are just going to have to dream up new ways to gather it, in usable forms.
So far, not directly, but I haven't tried using diodes and capacitors yet. Right now I'm experimenting with different metals- copper tubing gets twice voltage, and 16 gauge wire (instead of 22 gauge)also increases voltage. Also, when you wet the finished tube, voltage increases (battery effect?) Stay tuned.
Open source project page for this Aluminum-paper-steel design posted at PESWiki dot com. Search "singerxyz". Page created to report replications, characterizations, optimizations, improvements, and practical applications, if they are to be found.
Very interesting. I'm wondering if this effect is related to triboelectric charging. All of your materials, however, are very close together in the tribo-scale (with the first one, aluminum, at the lower end of the positive materials). That is, in descending order, aluminum, paper, and steel. You may get stronger potential differences by substituting different materials for your three elements. Also, you may get stonger effects by larger mass (bigger pieces, proportionately).
jrussellslack 1 year ago
Just a thought, rather then DC, have you tried to measure AC voltage? This device should be able to pick up radiant energy quite well, but probably won't work as a storage device in that way, but more like a receiver or antenna like capacitor. You can use your kitchen sink faucet usually to get a good earth ground if you'd like to try and use this as a receiver.
FiniteTuning 3 years ago
Go do some research on the Seebeck effect. Aluminum has a Seebeck coefficient of 3.5, iron has a coefficient of 19. I suspect this is where your voltage is coming from.
xjet 3 years ago
Aluminum + Insulator + Iron = CHEMICAL Energy.
Dissimilar metals, etc; another chemical battery. Just to be sure you get it: Eventually all of the metal oxidizes and your source of electricity is gone. Nothing left, nada. This in not free energy by any means.
Drevtoobe 4 years ago
You talk like you are an athority in electronics. Something tells me you didn't do so well in History class. Over half the telegraphs in the USA & Europe were run on simaler devices for over 50 years in the 1800's. Try goggleing Earthy battery.
RHEAD100 4 years ago
Interesting point but it does not relate to what I said.
Do you think this is 'free energy' or chemical energy?
Drevtoobe 4 years ago
I really don't understand the deffinetion of chemical energy well enough to say. But I don't believe in a free lunch. OH ! the food may be free, But, Some body is going to have to build a fire and cook it. I don't believe anyone is going to build a machine that creats energy from nothing. BUT;; There is Free energy all areund us. We are just going to have to dream up new ways to gather it, in usable forms.
RHEAD100 4 years ago
Thus tube from what I can make out appears to be functioning as a capacitor being charged by the meter. If that's what we got then NOT free energy.
shubus 4 years ago
Can you increase voltage by connecting in series: positive to neg, and neg to positive?
bexiang67 4 years ago
So far, not directly, but I haven't tried using diodes and capacitors yet. Right now I'm experimenting with different metals- copper tubing gets twice voltage, and 16 gauge wire (instead of 22 gauge)also increases voltage. Also, when you wet the finished tube, voltage increases (battery effect?) Stay tuned.
singerxyz 4 years ago
Have you tried a large device? See if the energy output gets bigger with the size?
RenderingSanity 4 years ago
Yes it does. It also works better with a copper pipe.
It seems to be due to an effect that happens when dissimilar metals are close together.
singerxyz 4 years ago
Is there any way to make sure this isn't some kind of oxidizing effect or something of the like?
To me it seems like it could perhaps be collecting static electricity from the air. I look forward to seeing the replications of the project.
RenderingSanity 4 years ago
Galvanized wire works too (I just tried it ;-)
P.S. I'm not trying to claim anything, or make a hoax or anything like that. I just love playing with this stuff and found this effect. fun!
singerxyz 4 years ago
try holding the meter leads in each hand and you will get a reading its not enough to do anything with.
erawling 4 years ago
Open source project page for this Aluminum-paper-steel design posted at PESWiki dot com. Search "singerxyz". Page created to report replications, characterizations, optimizations, improvements, and practical applications, if they are to be found.
sterlingda 4 years ago