Solemn High Ambrosian Rite Mass part1/15

[JessiLHeflin1978]

actually tridentine rite was celebrated in church slavonik in 19th century in croatia.

[cunjoz]

@JessiLHeflin1978

and about 10 centuries before 19th century :)

[ToryAnarchist]

Is this the revised rite or the usus antiquior of the Ambrosian rite?

[AdversusHaereses]

@ToryAnarchist I do not think there is a revised rite for the Ambrosian rite, it was untouched during the Council.

[ToryAnarchist]

@AdversusHaereses Actually there is. The seminarians in Milan were hoping that Summorum Pontificum applied to their case as well. There is only one Western rite which was left unrevised after VC2 and that was the Bragan.

[AdversusHaereses]

@ToryAnarchist Thank you for the information.

[sorboet]

The differences are correctly listed on the wikipedia article (I´m ambrosian, so I know they are correct ;) )



[garciadelacadena]

Can somebody explain the differences between the Gregorian Rite and the Ambrosian Rite and when was the Ambrosian rite instituted and its jurisdiction??

God Bless!!!

[TheEcumenator]

Correcting a few comments, this Rite is exclusive to Milan. Thats why its also known as the Milanese Rite and doesn't celebrate in Latin but in Italian.

Overall the liturgy is vastly similar to the Roman Rite

[baldwalrus7]

Isn't it traditionally celebrated in Latin though? Same as the Tridentine Rite.

[TheEcumenator]

well the fact that it is in the ambrosian rite, its celebrated in Italian.

[thatstrbl]

you are both right actually. The Ambrosian Rite of the Mass is now celebrated in Italian, following the example set by the vernacularization of the Roman Rie. However baldwalrus is right in that it was once, and is in this video, celebrated in Latin, as were all forms of the Mass from about 350 through Vatican II. Fortunately, Latin versions of the old liturgies such as this and the Tridentine Mass are returning. Pax vobiscum

[TheEcumenator]

Thanks to Pope Benedict XVI and the Summorum Pontificum..

Pax Christi

[DanVilAl]

Not exactly, the traditional Ambrosian rite is in Latin. The modernized Ambrosian rite is usually celebrated in Italian. This is the traditional, in Latin.

[apollodorus85]

Se leggi i testi originali su questo rito, scopri che gli originatori del rito cosidetto Ambrogiano hanno adattato alcuni elementi della Divina Liturgia.

Parlando sul soggetto dei salmi ed inni, S. Agostino li voleva cantare "secundum morem orientalium partium ne populus mæroris tædio contabesceret." (cioe, nella maniera orientale).

[xplund]

Looks and sounds like a Tridentine High Mass.  Gloria inexcelsius Deo!

[vincitXVI]

OMG! this fab music makes me feel soooooooo CATHOLIC!

[manga12]

well remember they were an order after saint ambrose, this is a differant rite then the latin church which is what the majority of catholics are roman catholics this is ambrosian catholics, in communion with rome but there is a good chance that some of their mass is done a bit differant then the tridentine rite. I have never seen one as it is so hard to find.

[optimatus]

Is this in Milan?

[DanVilAl]

It is in Rome.

[kleidemos01]

Ma quanto vi piace salmoidiare i latino ?!Pregate col cuore invece che adornarvi di vetusti orpelli!

[DanVilAl]

tu sei italiano, ma non rispetti il tuo proprio patrimonio liturgico, da dove sei?

[imanacer]

Yes, the guy on the right was a complete annoyance. I assisted at this Mass, a third of those in the sanctuary were Americans, but I think he's Neapolitan. Complete spaz. Im just glad he wasnt there for other Masses.

[udayamnm]

Kalindoscopy,you're right about the guy on the left. Not only is he fidgety, he is also so distracted and keeps looking at the congregation.Its as if he doesn't want to be there! Most annoying indeed! He spoils the austerity and solemnity of the whole Mass!

[kalindoscopy]

wonderful. Are there any clips of the Ethiopian liturgy being sung on youtube?

[DanVilAl]

Yes, there are a few.

(not complete)

[ha2v]

I have made the setting and harmonisation of this Cantemus Domino.

The schola singing is mine : schola-sainte-cecile(dot)com

This mass was said in Roma by Mgr Amodeo.

[jmontgomery7577]

You are to be more than congratulated for it! Thank you so much for writing it! As I said earlier, it sent chills down my spine...and still does!

[kalindoscopy]

the guy on the left wouldn't stop fidgeting!

[scerasano]

I wish that you would record this, and other music from the service.

[DanVilAl]

Ambrosian chant is very "eastern" indeed.

[jmontgomery7577]

What is the name of the Entrance Anthem? It reminds me

very much of the music of the Eastern Rites. Very

beautiful! It sent chills down my spine!

[DanVilAl]

It's "Cantemus Domino":

Cantemus Domino, halleluiah, halleluiah, halleluiah.

Cantemus Domino gloriose, quia factus est nobis in salutem.

cantemus Domino, quia liberavit populum suum, et transire fecit per siccum per medium mare.

[jmontgomery7577]

Thank you very much! Do you know the source of this setting?

[apollodorus85]

I agree, this is a fantastic anthem.

[DanVilAl]

I think it was in Rome, but not sure where.

[jmontgomery7577]

This is overwhelming! In which Church was this celebrated? Other than that question, all I can say is...Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! God bless you! Dominus et Domina tecum!

[DanVilAl]

I love the Ambrosian rite so much, and its traditional liturgical chant so ancient, so rich.

[DanVilAl]

haha!

The answer is no! Just read the information on the upper right corner: "celebrated by Monsignor Vincenzo Vismara, Archdeacon of the Metropolitan Chapter of Milan, Domestic Pelate of His Holiness".

And the ambrosian rite is perfectly living and used in Milano and the valleys, it's not a sort an archaeological relic.

[williampaley]

Do these priests consider teh throne of Peter "sede vacantes"? Are they conclavists or simply enthusiastic academics or liturgical historians?

[Nielsng]

Especially the beginning is nice... it's all quiet and suddenly you hear the bell ring and the chanting :).. very nice!

[Nielsng]

I love it!

[Monessenite]

Holy and amazing