yeah rape is unheard of in muslim world, cause you shut them up, we often heard our women worker in saudi arabia got raped, and those who fight back got beheaded. btw why don't want to talk about women in pakistan and afghanistan, are you trying to hide the truth there ?
@izmanq Don't misquote the man. He said "almost unheard" not "unheard". There are such problems in the Muslim world, but their extents are not comparable at all The point is that Western countries, the so-called Advanced, the Elite, are having these huge problems within their people.These are statistics, so it is objective my friend.There will be people like you denying reality when even clear, objective material is brought to them, not wanting to acknowledge that perhaps,they were indeed wrong.
@MunkeySub that is not a way to speak my brother, remember the verse : {O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), not let women (deride) women who may be better than they are; neither defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. Bad is the name of lewdness after faith. And whoso turneth not in repentance, such are evil-doers. Surah Al-Hujraat: 11}
Ahahahaha, pedophilia unheard of in the muslim world? Oh yeah, an underage bride has given consent by means of her father so technically it isn't pedophilia, its just their wedding night.
Some of the Prophet's Sayings, peace and blessings be upon him (The most perfect believers are those who have the best manners, and the best of you are those who treat their wives kindly)
And guys dont explain anything to those retards from any religion. They got brains. They dont wanna use their brains? be it. Explain to Allah why he decided all of a sudden to have a son and abandon his uniform method of sending prophets(which is a reason why Christianity is a joke) Judaism is even funnier with its codes and secrets. Please let them face Allah and what a shame standing infront of him sayin that I worshipped...hmmm...hmmmm.....mmmmm....ur son!
@Jaymzzz1000 And what will you say when you stand before Allah? Where are my 72 virgins? Where is my wine? Where are my little boys to bugger? Don't deny it for it is all quoted in the alleged sayings of your prophet.
You think in a today's thinkin my friend. I would stand infront of Allah and ask?
I would for his mercy as there is no guarantee like "the christian assurance that you are saved by god's death for your own good". Even I am followin the right and only preserved divine religion. There are sins that I will "ask" Allah to forgive me for and lotsa other things to avoid even a day in the hell fire, which can happen if you did not repent your sins. Once I am in thats another story :)
@Jaymzzz1000 You have not the slightest evidence that hell or paradise exists. You have been told they exist and so you believe it. You do not know that your faith is true and right. You have only been told it is by men and, slave like you believe what you are told. But tell me more about Paradise. Will you spend eternity drinking wine, sodomising young boys and having your pick of untold numbers of beautiful women? How silly you are my friend to believe such nonsense.
@Jaymzzz1000 You ask - Arent u an ass woshipping a man? and two other Gods?
Yet you follow the words of a paedophile. A man who at the age of 47 cast his eye on a 6 year old child and took her to his bed when she was 9. What would you say if any man did that today? Would you do it? Would any man who was not the sickest and worse kind of deviant.
Talk talk talk.... Ask this guy to start a business and create something rather than take dumb people's money, and I'm confident he'd fall straight onto his dumbass face.
Hmm.... I never knew how easy it was to sell people a bunch of bullshit. All you have to do is yell into a mircrophone and people will agree with you. Put his words down on paper (same exact meaning), and it will read as pure and utter bullshit. THE MUSLIM WOMAN RECOGNIZES HER RESPONSIBILITY!!! muahahahahaaaa.....Every person clapping is just as insane as this douchebag.
@bnyce52 my dear brother, you shouldnt say that because he didnt said anything bad to you, but the truth is that he said the truth and truth is hard to swallow : )
@tahatj100 Ask a Muslim woman? I tried to speak to Muslim women in a shop in Aswan Egypt and a couple of angry Muslim men became very agitated and told them to shut up before letting me know that while I was welcome to spend money in the shop I was not allowed to talk to their women.As for the prostitutes in the UK, most of their pimps are .... yep Muslims. Now that is the truth for you.
@letstorkbollocks well, do you just stop people by on the streets and ask them? is that the right thing to do? they might feel uncomfortable talking about it, and you gotta understand that, some muslim women are not meant to be talking to total strangers, but you gotta do it in the right context, go to your local mosque, or read the Qur'an or the seerah or the biography of prophet muhammed (pbuh) and his wives, the perfect example for muslims and for all mankind, and you will surely find answer
@wo0ozie You say your prophet is a perfect example for all mankind? He took to his bed a 9 (some say a 6) year old girl. Is this setting a perfect example? Should all men follow in his footsteps and molest children?
@letstorkbollocks yeah.. some say 9, some say 6.. ppl say all kinda shitz, but do i have to take my Deen from people? No! my source is the Qur'an and the Sunnah, Aisha was believed to be 9 yrs old when prophet muhammed (pbuh) engaged her, and she was believed to be 12 (fully matured) and reached her puperty when they got married, and it is believed to be the most successful relationship between a man and a woman ever known to mankind! not some flithy stuff Like ROMEO AND JULEIT!
prophet muhammed's marriage to Aisha pure, the love they had for each others was pure, n purely 4 the sake of Allah, its the best love anyone can ever have, it lasted throught their lives, and he didn't divorce her, nor did he divorce any of his wives, it showed that age difference is not a huge deal inorder for a relationship to be successful, as long as the man and the woman are fully mature, and responsible adults, and also i'd lyk to remind u that mary when she birthed jesus she was 12
im not meant to defend islam or justify the deeds or actions of the prophet muihammed (pbuh), the teachings of islam, they stand for themselves, and with or without my help or defending, i know no matter how hard i try to convince people or defend islam, it wont work, if Allah doesnt will to guide people, it's Allah's will at the end of the Day, some people will not just see the wisdom and the absolute truth, and i totally understand that! peace :)
@wo0ozie So you believe that a 12 year old girl just because she has reached puberty can be married off and have sexual relations??? Girls can have their period at the age of 9 it does not mean they are ready for marriage and sex and only a pervert would suggest otherwise. As for Mary being 12, where do you get that? It is not in the Bible. You say you are not meant to defend Islam. The fact is you are not allowed to question Islam. You are told to obey without thinking and that is what you do.
@letstorkbollocks its totally injustice to try to superimpose ur cultural conditioning and environmental surroundings to a very tough desertic evironment like some 1500 years ago, in the past people didn't use to have the fun and enjoyment and the pleasure that we have, people used to suffer at a very early age, especially at that time, in that very place, you know what a desert means, people used to reach their pupperty so early,
@wo0ozie Think. Think.Think! 12 year olds in any society or culture are CHILDREN!!!! They are not to be used sexually. Your prophet was not perfect and was wrong to bed a child. As for it being the most perfect and pure relationship - who says? Just because your prophet said his lustful desires were right does not make it so. Use the intelligence and rationality God gave you. Learn to think. Learn to question. Learn to challenge.
@letstorkbollocks why are you trying to make it a case of rape? it is not, Aisha's father, the prophet muhammed's (pbuh) best companion and the closest to his heart, he knew about their marriage, he was more than happy, he thought that's she's ready, and he approved it, and my evidence is, at his time, if it was a wrongful act, the first one who would offend him for doing such a thing, would be the Kuffars, but it was a custom, people used to get married at young ages.
@wo0ozie I did not mention the word rape but it is interesting that you do. Yes people got married young and still do. But she was 9 years old!!!! This is wrong. It was wrong then; it is wrong now. Your prophet would have had the pick of adult women. Why did he find himself attracted to a child? If a man did it today would you agree it would be wrong?
@letstorkbollocks show me ur authentic proof that Aisha' (rA) was 9 years old when she got married to the prophet muhammed (pbuh) and lived with him in his home at that age.
the other thing is the marriages of prophet muhammed (pbuh) all of them, were not by his choice, it was the choices of Allah (Swt), he couldnt reject the will of Allah, he said i only do whatever Allah commands me, eventhough the haters will hate, cuz they just have nothing but hate, no matter how hard we try to explain the truth to them.
@wo0ozie Oh no not that!!! This happens so often with religious cults. Not least Christian ones. Now you Muslims believe it. ‘It was not my choice to bed a child it was the will of Allah’. I have studied a number of cults and this is just so so so common. The leader / prophet can do what he likes as long as he claims that he was simply following the will of God. See David Koresh, see Warren Jeffs. And your prophet has used this great little scam to justify his own sick desires.
@letstorkbollocks and ofcourse in islam if u reach pupperty and ur total responsible for ur deeds and acts and words and choises why not? and the prophet muhammed (pbuh) didnt contradict himself, he said, help ur children get married at a early age as soon as they reach pupperty and become mature responsible adultsas much as you can to help them avoid tribulation or (fitna), that will help make them less sinning or having desires for satisfying their animal instincts or lusts
@wo0ozie Now you Muslims say your prophet's truth is as good today as it was in the 7th century. So therefore today in the 21st you must believe that marrying off children as young as 9 is OK. If it was good for Mohammed 1300 years ago it is good today. You may think so. Civilised people, however, abhor the very thought of child sex.
they used to reach puperty at early ages, it is a fact, just like there some people used to live for 950 and 1000 years, do you know of anyone today who would live for 200 years? apparenty not, you gotta accept the FACTS! she was not 9 years old, well it is good today to get married and settle down as soon as you reach puperty and feel like you can take that responsiblity of marriage and start a family, i'd prefer that than sleepin around with girls without the context of marriage
@wo0ozie It is not a fact that people lived for 1000 years. For God's sake use your intelligence. Just because a book written by men 1400 years ago says it happened doesn't make it so. You say it is good to marry and settle down at puberty. For many girls this is 10 years old!!! I have 2 daughters 25 and 28. They have travelled extensively. They went to university. They have had loads of fun and had many fine and good experiences. Could they have done that if they had been married at 12?
ofcourse not, and what kind of "fun" do you actually talk about? let me guess. sleeping around with guys? being involved in some stupid short-terms relationships? having their hearts broken by buys? being treated like shit after giving their guy what they needed? im sorry, i dont mean to offend you, and im not talking about ur girls, maybe they're modest and chast, and i believe they are, but that is another fact that happens to most girls to day, and u can deny that too, but its true
@wo0ozie I would agree with you that teenage pregnancies are a real problem in Western society. However, I do not agree that short term relationships or having your heart broken are such bad things. We have all been through it. It’s part of the fun. Love is all ups and downs and Western women have the choice which Muslim women rarely have. Now just tell me - Do you agree that 12 years old is too young to be married even though puberty has been reached.
wel, dont generalise, i havent been thru it, n its not at all fun to hurt someone, that is what they try to teach you, people have a very different conception of fun today, its never fun to try to hurt or harm someone, im a muslim and i respect women, so i never tried to be involved in a relationship unless im 100% sure, and totally into it, these things are taken seriously in islam, this is the way it shud be, we respect women, not treat them like shit, and that is one proof islam is the truth
@letstorkbollocks i expected you to say that, cuz lets face it, in the begining you didnt say that cuz you care and respect women more than islam do, but you just want to find something about islam to point fingers at, and now, you say leaving a girl heartbroken is not a bad thing? yeah.. just shows what kinda person are you, its sick, islam respects women, honors them, to hell with the so-called FUN THAT THEY WANT, drinking, drugging, sex, all this bull, they call it fun?
@wo0ozie I did not say it was fun to hurt people. I am saying that in relationships people get hurt. If you had enjoyed the pleasure of a romance you would know the pain when that romance ends. It is part of life. As you say you have not been thorough it so with respect you are speaking from a viewpoint of ignorance. You say you have to be 100% sure? How can you be 100% sure if you have no prior knowledge of relationships? How can any young girl know?
@wo0ozie Yes drinking and sex are fun. As is partying and going to nightclubs. Let’s face it plenty of Muslim men are heavily into these things. I find it absolutely extraordinary that you believe sex between two consenting adults is wrong but a 53 year old man taking a 9 year old to his bed is OK.
@letstorkbollocks and who told you that these things are fun? seeing nothing but naked girls, dancing, and drinking, which harms you, your health, ur wealth, ur brain, ur every living cell, you call that fun? you have jst said that hurting or harming oneself is not fun, but here u go, that's what im talking about, and i know that many muslims do that, but does that mean that the act itself is islamic? just like those so-called muslims who would think of terrorising people, the act is not islamic
well, you stil believe that she's 9 years old, when he was 53 years old, that is ur problem, as i said, its not my problem, nor islam's problem, and he didnt just took her to his bed, he took her as a wife, a marriage that lasted throughout their life, at was what we call 'true love' and later she became one of the greatest scholars of islam, because of the knowledge that the prophet muhammed used to give her, and because of the love and the trust that they have fe each other.
@letstorkbollocks im of the opinion that every person that has reached their puperty and able to make decisions on their own, then be it, why do you expect me to force someone, who's matured, and became responsible adults for their own choices to do or not to do something? she was not forced, she did it out of her own will, their marriage lasted thruout their lives, age was not a barrier as long it was the right thing to do, and they got married, it was not a case of rape, or one night stand!
@wo0ozie You say Aisha was not forced. How do you know this? Because the Quaran says so? What 9 year old girl could possibly make an informed choice on such a matter? How could this child possibly say no to a man considered to be God’s Prophet? Mohammed wanted her; he took her. He could have chosen a mature woman. He chose a very young child
well, if you still insist that she was 9 years old, i mean that's really childish and stupid, and its not my fault, nor is it islam's fault, i dunno where garabage sources you get to learn about islam, but islam is islam, and the truth will forever remain truth, but my advice to you, if you want to learn more about islam, learn about it from its sources, the only two authentic main sources of islam would be, the Qur'an and the sunnah of prophet muhammed, his biography, and His seerah
@wo0ozie OK so was she 12 years old? And you think this makes it better??? A 12 year old is STILL A CHILD!!!! Even you admit Mohammed engaged her when she was six and he was about 50. And you are totally OK with this? All he had to do was say Allah wills it and he can do whatever he pleases. And because Islam forbids any challenges no one is allowed to question it. It is amazing that you condemn sex between consenting adults but believe sex with a 12 year old is fine.
@letstorkbollocks makes what better? and who are you to say a person is still a child or a kid? how would you know? you know what? its better for you to care about ur society's problem, see what kind of hellish problem have ur western societies caused in this world, from alcohol and drug addiction to the death that results from them both, to the rape cases, the street criminals, looting and thugging, the child molestation, inscet, hatred, injustice, and the list goes on!
@wo0ozie I do not know what country you live in but I live in the UK (for all its faults many many Muslims want to come here every year) and in the UK and other civilised countries the age of consent is 16. If you have sex with a child under that age you are a paedophile. No, our society is not perfect but we have a real intolerance of the molestation of children.
do i still have to argue about the age? and that consent thing was only been for lyk 100 yrs? 150 years? 200 years? women in the western world only got the rights to vote just some last few decades, something which islam seems to have given to women some 1500 yrs, and yeah situations change, life changes through ages, 1500 years ago people's nature mentally nd physically psychologically was different then ours, u can ask any social experts, the environemts and the surrounds were different
@wo0ozie Yeah yeah just answer the question. Why do you keep avoiding it? How old was Mohammed and how old was Aisha when they had sex?. You know the answer but you are too ashamed to admit it. I say 53 and 12. Admit it. And saying things change through the ages contradicts Islamic philosophy. According to Islam Mohammed's truth is as good today as it was 1400 years ago. So if it was OK to have sex with a child then it is OK now. At least according to Muslims.
i have answered it in my very first comment to you, and stop fooling around, to try to make someone feel something that they are not, is realy childish and really stupid, im not ashamed, and i have answered you, its not my fault, blame urself, i said that aisha was believed to be at the age as the virgin mary (rA) when she given birth to jesus, 12 years old, and Mohammed was believed to be 53 years, and he married her for almost 10 years, it is believed to be the most succesfful marriage
@wo0ozie Right so you and I agree that Mohammed was 53 and Aisha was 12. Where we disagree is that I believe this to be totally perverse and obscene. You on the other hand think it is OK. Secondly it is not my intention to offend anyone. I do, however, believe in challenging what I believe to be wrong. I can do this. You cannot. You are not allowed to question or challenge. God made us both and He made us into thinking rational, intelligent beings. Let's not be afraid to question and challenge.
@letstorkbollocks oh and, FYI, Qur'an is the only religious book on earth that says to Us to question everything in it, to question and examine everything that the Qur'an says, dont just read it or follow it blindly, the Qur'an says if you dont do that, ur not truly a muslim, cuz a muslim has to question and examine everything, and to use their intellects to observe the signs of Allah, and to arrive at the right conclusions, that also one of the reasons why alcohol and drugs are haraam in islam
@letstorkbollocks now i got a question for u, why in the world did you come on here, and watch islamic videos? is it just to insult islam and muslims? you dont see us go on youtube, on christian videos, or atheist videos, or non muslim videos and post offensive comments that would insult their beliefs, why would a person do such a thing? can't people find something better to do with their lives? is it the only thing that people try to do, just to go round spread hatred, and lies and foolishness
@wo0ozie Your religion is disgusting and immoral, that is why you deserve criticism and ridicule for believing in fairy tales which create these immoral actions. Believing all non-believers burn in hell is the most pertinent action deserving of criticism and ridicule.
@cr4ckb4by my religion is disgusting and immoral, what do you expect me to say to that? well, thanks any way, i ask you to tell me then what do you believe to be the truth and what is moral.
yeah.. you have a real intolerance of child molestation, who are you trying to fool? britain, america, germany, france, australia, the crime rates, rape, adultery, opensexuality, lesbainism, gayism, incest, pedophelia, all crime rates, these statics and serveys are almost unheard of in the muslim world, and they are the highest in the so called western civillized world, end of.
@wo0ozie You say Western societies suffer alcohol and drug addiction, rape cases, street criminals looting and thuggery. Yes yes but 1) many many Muslims every year try to get into Britain. 2) a high proportion of such crimes are perpetrated by Muslims 3) I have been to Pakistan and Egypt and I have seen small children homeless, hungry and begging in the streets. Whatever the faults of our society they are nothing in comparison to the hell of Islamic countries.
well, muslims imigrate to your lands, alright, that's a fact, is there something wrong with that? the wrong thing i believe, when so called muslims try to do troubles, cuz islam aint no about troubles, so these people who go on the streets shout, yell, smashing cars, do mischeif, loting etc. the act is not really islamic, dont blame islam fe that, and no, dont blame it all on muslims, the people who actually do that, are mostly what u can call whites, blacks, indians, heavy metals, punk etc.
@wo0ozie You say people are satisfied with what they have? Then how do you explain the riots that toppled Mubarak a few moths ago? As for Muslims emigrating to Western countries, no there is nothing wrong with that as such. It is just strange that according to you our societies are so full of crime and filth and yet so many good Muslims would rather live here than in their own Islamic countries. Strange don't you think?
@letstorkbollocks now, you dont answer my questions, people are satisfied with what they have, but no one should ever be satisfied with opression, if that is what you are trying to justify, no one stands for opression exept the opressiors, so people shouldnt, and the transgression that the government practice upon people should be stopped, and thats what the people of the countries all over the world are trying to do, why do you blame us for that then?
@wo0ozie I do not blame the peoples of Egypt, Syria, Libya or anywhere for throwing off their oppressive masters. I wish the people of these countries well and hope their revolution bring in democracy, prosperity and tolerance.
@letstorkbollocks i dont think that the western world is only full of crimes and rapes etc. i believe that despite all this badness, there is still some good things about it, and i as a muslim dont like to generalise, so muslims go there inorder to be benifited from what good they have, and inorder that they can enhance their lives, there's nothing wrong with that, and inorder to give dawah too, which they have succeeded in, and thousands of people every year come to islam by the grace of Allah
@wo0ozie so you actually believe that alcohol, drugs, rape, sex, adultery, fornication, incest, sexual intercourses before marriage to be fun and righteous acts as long as the person is happy, and the marriage of prophet muhammed (pbuh) to Aisha (rA) was a wrongful act? are you kidding me? someone's loosing fucking ground here, double standards goin on, eh?
@letstorkbollocks as i said, i dont like to generalise, there are some group of muslims, who go there so they can get rid of some restrictions that they are ristriced to in their countries, and they dont like how strict and clear the truth and islam is when it comes to islam's teachings and profound message, so, i have to say these are not really good muslims unfortunately, all they care about is, girls, luxury, bling, cars, houses, etc. and thats not what islam is about!
@wo0ozie In islam, women have no rights. When they are treated as a fraction of a man in court. When they are indoctrinated into believing they need to cover themselves and be subordinates to males (their fathers and then their arranged husbands). When they are treated so disgustingly, you cannot defend this by saying this is for their own good or the good of society. It isn't, Islam is fucking despicable and stands in the way of individual rights and personal responsibility. Fuck islam.
@cr4ckb4by it dont bother me what your saying, cuz i know what islam is really about, and how respected and honored women are in islam. it dont bother me at all, all i care about is the truth.
@wo0ozie What is moral? Equality, individual freedom, personal responsibility. Neither the christian or islamic cult grants any of these, therefore, by description, are immoral.
@cr4ckb4by i dunno about you? how did you form ur opinions about islam and chirsitianity, and i dunno about christianity? but if people really implements islam, there really will be equality, individual freedom, and let me say 'human freedom' cuz in islam we believe that human freedom is not like God's freedom, you're not just free, 'you're free as long as you do not do harm to one self', and ofcourse in islam you will have the greatest personal responisiblity, and btw. islam is not a cult.
@cr4ckb4by yeah, that is your definition, but islam is not really a cult, and ya know what, some few weeks ago i had the chance to talk to a stranger i met in the masjid, he was brit, and we had a real deep peaceful meaningful conversation, what was so special about it is, that he was an atheist, and im a muslim, some times he sounded offensive to islam, but im sure he was because he felt safe, and he knew that im not gonna do him any harm, even though his views on life clashes with mine...
@wo0ozie Just like if I was to say in twenty years from now, I should be able to marry a 6 year and fuck her when she is 9 years old. If I sat here and tried to defend this just given my own personal beliefs, I would be considering a pedophiliac. Yet, if I mask this belief behind the qu'ran, I'm just a practicing muslim.
@cr4ckb4by why would we need to defend suc ha thing? ya know what, im a muslim and i have never slept around with girls before, i never even thought about doing it outside the context of marriage, go figure.
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
So what does sharia law say about homosexuals? Adulterers? Women whom are not virgins and were not married? Drinking alcohol? Eating pork? What are the punishment for these infractions? This is what I mean about this cult being immoral. Individual freedom and personal responsibility lack to exist which such precepts as these. You are a pathetic fucking sheep.
let me just tell you that this guy was an atheist, he claimed that we are just a result of nothingness, this amazing teremendous universe, was just a result of a coincedence, a big explosion sorted out all these things, and made them orchastrated and put into palce the way they are, and he claimed that there is no point in life, thus he's free to do whatever he wants, he's free to be an adulturer, a raper, a drug doer, a drunkard, a liar, a stealer, cuz there is just no point in life
@wo0ozie Nihilism can be scary for most people. Just because you are so weak that this disgusting thing called islam seems to be a point to life, doesn't make it right first and foremost, there is no way to prove any of the supernatural assertions made by either islam or christianity. Secondly, it wouldn't prove to be a point to living life. In fact, the only way you will find your point to life is through experience and understanding what you value.
@cr4ckb4by my friend, what i think is scary about nihilism is it dont make sense, when this guy argued about nihilism during the convo, at some point it made me feel like i have no purpose in life, then there is no difference between guidance n misguidance, light n darkness, black n white, chalk n cheese, dead n alive, cuz simply 'there is no point in life', but then i recognized that im a muslim, and i thanked Allah fe that. i thank Allah for being guided and not just stumbling in the dark
@wo0ozie You make your own purpose in life. Life has meaning because you give it meaning. For any proof of just that, look at the immoral cult you have accepted/been indoctrinated into. To say simply because there is no apparent or known meaning to life makes it not worth living is yet another thing conjured up by a total moron. Despicable.
@cr4ckb4by ok, i just need to ask you, what is immoral about what i believe, or more practically what i do? cuz i would never do something i dont believe in. so go a head and inform me about what i do, just tell me.
@wo0ozie So you're in an islamic state. Your sister has been found to have had sex before wedlock and by sharia law she is to be stoned to death. You help dig the hole and collect the rocks, you are also told by your father and you along with the rest of the community will stone her to death, do you take part?
@cr4ckb4by well, my sister never had sex in her life before, its not like the so called western civillized world here, we're not just like pigs, we believe in halaal contractual, understood legalimised marriage, this is something we take seriously because of the accountability and the huge responsibility of it, we dont just sleep around, have sex for the enjoy of it, and then when our women finds out that theyr pregnant, we just let them give abortion to it, cuz they'd become murderers.
@wo0ozie You're a delusional brainwashed sheep. The question I was asking was if this was what was going to happen, which is sharia law, would you take part if you were told to? Don't dodge the question and admit you yourself even being a brainwashed little sheep are more moral then your moral tradition.
@cr4ckb4by no, if you actually learned about it, cuz you cant just talk or judge something without learning about it, Allah says that if there is only enough witnesses, (4 witnesses) and if only the adulterer or the raper admits it, only then you would have to do it, and in islam a criminal should be treated like a criminal, this is justice, just like you mentioned some of the evil consequences that the guilty people would naturally eventaully face, for their evil actions.
@wo0ozie Okay, so your sister had admitted, sharia law is in effect. You are told to take part, do you? And stop dodging the fucking question you retarded piece of shit.
@cr4ckb4by well, i know my sister would never do that, and even if she does (a3otho billah) i would want to take part, cuz only if the adulterer face this kind of punishment, only then his/ her sins would be forgiven, and it is not this life we care about, it is the after life, so i know its hard but it would be better if they get this as a punishment. its no laughing matter, the only thing we care about in this world is Allah's satisfaction and Allah's justice to be implemented on earth.
@wo0ozie Okay, so you clearly don't believe in morality, you would take part and stone your sister while she was buried waste deep with her arms either tied or buried as well so she could not block the onslaught. You do this because you believe this is the right thing to do and the only way she will be forgiven. You just admitted Islam is evil and disgusting, you just admitted you're evil and disgusting.
@cr4ckb4by yeah, i would do that to your sister too, and Allah's justice should take place, and if it is not for us to be proud of it and implement it, it is us that will be the loser, and dont you think that anyone can ever flee or escape from Allah's justice, Allah is not unaware of what the zalumoon do, the Qur'an says, unless it be as a mercy from Us and as an enjoyment for a while, but Allah will surely has His day.
@wo0ozie I retort yet again. What if you're wrong about all of this? What if there was no Allah and this "justice" was man-made, would it be immoral?
@wo0ozie One thing to understand, sociologically, the things you've mentioned other than raping, murdering and stealing, are not crimes. Lying is 75/25, most people lie daily but without any real problems caused from their "little white lies". Drug and alcohol use are rehabilitation problems, there are psychological features to these dependencies which are far from criminal.
@cr4ckb4by well, what would be a final consequence to drug addiction or drinking acohol? lemme guess? you wanna talk sociologically? millions of people die annually because of the drug addiction and alcohol addiction and the death that results from them both, innit true? most rape cases happens as the person would be intellectually vieled or intoxicated, most car accidents happens as a final consequence of being under the influnece of drugs or alcohol, i gues i dont need to go on..
@wo0ozie So you mean, we have to do things to help prevent drug and alcohol addiction? Perhaps finding the route cause of these problems? Fuck that shit, lets just adopt this immoral cult and sharia law! That should fix everything!
@cr4ckb4by well, do whatever you want, but Alla's Deen will prevail, as should as the truth, and the haters can just keep hating.. this is what they're best at, but the muslims shall not be bothered and we shall celebrate the praises of Allah for the numerous groups of people that convert to islam every year, as they come to know the truth about islam, and they embrace Allah's Deen, this is enough for us. and the more you hate on islam, the more that gives Us faith and encourage, so keep hatin
@wo0ozie Answer the fucking question and finally face the truth little sheep. What if you're wrong about all of this? What if there was no Allah and this "justice" was man-made, would it be immoral?
@wo0ozie Run and cower little sheep. Sad you could not admit that your man-made god and beliefs are immoral, you pathetic and disgusting little sheep. Enjoy your immoral dogmatic cult you fucking monster.
@cr4ckb4by ya know, i would of insult you back, and i could of use offensive language too, but as i look up to the perfect example for mankind, prophet muhammed (pbuh), he never return rudeness with rudeness, he had no place in his heart for hate, and i dont hate, as long as its personal, and as long as you insult me, but it just makes me sad when you insult something that is really sacred to someone, and i can do nothing to you, all i can do for you is to ask Allah to guide you, peace!
@wo0ozie Muhammed was a pedophile, you follow a pedophile. Now be a man and answer the question honestly, don't try to dodge it like you did when I asked if you had to stone your own sister because of sharia, would you? Here's the question: What if you're wrong about all of this? What if there was no Allah and this "justice" was man-made, would it be immoral?
@wo0ozie Aww, it makes you sad? You believe that I as well as anyone who does not believe in Allah will burn in fire for eternity, so cheer up little guy, accorded to your morally bankrupt worldview, I'll get mine! Sacred? Pfft, more like ignorant moronic bullshit deserving of criticism and ridicule just short of excommunication from all civilized society. Enjoy your delusion and membership in your immoral dogmatic cult, all praise be to allah and his child fucking prophet Muhammed. Deplorable.
@cr4ckb4by this just shows how lost you are, you have nothing but swearing and saying bad words, and you talk about morality, just needed to tell you that know that the followers of the truth wil never feel the need to curse or insult someone or their belieifs, they needn't to do that. Peace!
@wo0ozie I stand against the immoral in favor or morality, now answer the fucking question you pathetic muslim dog. If there was no Allah and all of this justice were man made, would it be immoral? The answer is yes, of course it is immoral. It being commanded by this imaginary friend of yours allah makes allah immoral and you a fucking idiot to boot. Think for yourself and give up the fairy tales you pathetic moron.
@wo0ozie No, the followers of your garbage religion will attack and kill anyone who disagrees, what do they get for it? Virgins in paradise? What pathetic fucking drivel, enjoy your fairy tale moron.
@wo0ozie Well done sir, i thought you handled that ignorant person very well without resorting to his level of filth. You are an excellent representative of your religion.
@MilitiaHQ thanks, i realise that at the end of the day that not everyone is going to accept the truth, and it is not my job to force my beliefs on opinions on them, rather to share my knowledge and my view of the truth and my opinion of how the universe works, or should work, and i would like also to let them share their opinions in views with me, in peaceful respectful manners, that is what my religion taught me, at the end of the day, it's Allah's job to Guide whomso ever He wants..
@wo0ozie See the christian and jewish book, the old testament, tells christians and jews to do this as well. But they don't, they clearly see this as being something which was acceptable at the time which they've grown out of. Silly them, not listening to the precedent made by their creator. The muslim is much more faithful and will do what allah commands right?
@cr4ckb4by well, i value islam, the message of islam is what gives me meaning, this is what add value to my life, this is what makes me alive, having a purpose, and living my life fulfilling this purpose, islam gives me the resposiblity towards the creator and his creation, islam is what taught me to be dutiful to my parents, treat them in the kindest and the bestest of manners, it taught me to follow what is right and to stay away from what is wrong, isnt this the freedom that you call for?
@wo0ozie If someone wants to cheat on their spouse, they may lose that spouse or friends because of their actions. If someone rapes someone else, they may be imprisoned and perhaps even raped by others in prison. If someone does drugs, they have the chance of losing their life and being a burden on their friends and family. If someone uses alcohol, they may have the same thing happen as with drugs. If they lie, they may be caught and lose trust and social standing, if they steal, they may be
@wo0ozie imprisoned or face a fine. To say because for everything we understand about the universe, and the fact that every single religion that has come about have been proven time and time again false(morally and for their assertion about the meaning of mankind's place here), to say that because this all is seemingly pointless, everyone is free to do everything, is fucking ridiculous and honestly conjured up a complete and utter moron. There are repercussions to your actions.
@cr4ckb4by how can you talk about morals when you keep using such bad language bro? islam has not been proven to be wrong, it is just the hate you have for islam doesnt give you the chance to get introduced to the true islam, and you dont need to, just leave us, we have our own accountability, we will face the consecuences of our choices and decisions, just like we believe that you will have the accountability to your choices and decisions.
@wo0ozie But I stand for morality, so me being disrespectful and insulting of you, your intelligence(or lack there of), and your disgusting religious tradition is me being far more moral than you could ever dream. Standing up against things which corrupt and destroy women's rights, lbgt rights, personal responsibility, and individual freedom. I am being moral, whether or not I give a shit about your feelings little sheep.
@wo0ozie Of course it doesn't bother you what I am saying, you're fine with the kinds of despicable disgusting things done in the name of this imaginary being Allah. You are fine to give your life to these ideas and this tradition more than a thousand years old. Any use of your intellectual facilities which in anyway causes you doubt in these dogmas you ignore. You are a sick and disgusting excuse for a human being, not even worthy of being a member of our species. Understand?
@cr4ckb4by one question, what brought you here? i hope its not just cause you wanted to clashes with muslims and bring up heated arguments and just offend islam, cuz apparently from the title you could see that this video is addressing muslims.
@wo0ozie I was sent this video by a muslim defending that women rights were cared about in Islam, which is utterly laughable. But here is the thing, if you're offended good. Try and understand why I'm being offensive you moronic piece of shit. Understand why rational people would look at islam and see it for the disgusting deplorable reprehensible immoral cult it is. You deserve ridicule and criticism for your beliefs.
@cr4ckb4by no, if islam really bothers you, then you dont have to care, just live and let live, and dont be afraid, we muslims dont try to harm or offend others, we dont just go on non muslim videos and keep insulting them, we never even think about that, this is not what islam teaches.
and im from egypt, our governments not the best, i have always hated governments and politicans, not for what they are, but for what they do, they have never been able to manage to implement justice, the only thing that they do, is caring about themselves, and all the people out there who's homeless, starving, poverty,etc. that is their responsibility, but is islam to blame for that? and most people here understand that, and they take it, they are satisfied with what they have
@wo0ozie And no I do not want to learn more about Islam. I know what I need to know. It is a backward and ignorant philosophy that stifles the spirit and mind and reduces its followers as you yourself have admitted to slaveship. Historically it was spread by fire and sword and not by people freely choosing it. Its promises to men when they die is perverse and ridiculous - unlimited houris and young boys to sodomise. What does it promise women except the same slaveship they suffered in life?
@letstorkbollocks yeah, you know what you only want to know, it doesnt matter to you if its the truth or not, it doesnt matter to you how mistaken your sources could be, just know what you need to know, and yh.. you should leave us to our backward and ignorant philosophy, it wud be better, i've always hated to get into heated arguments anyway, its not gonna get you anywhere, i should of ignored ur stupid comments from the beginning and not respond to it, peace
@wo0ozie OK so you tell me. how old was Aisha and how old was Mohammed when he first had sex with her. Let's see if you can answer that. I think it was 12 and 53 but please correct me if I am wrong.
well, ur wrong about freedom, actually if u want to be a muslim, that means that u gotta conform, submit ur own will out of peace and serenity and acceptance to the will of Allah, thats what islam means, so we seek refuge as a muslim to follow our own desires or the so-called freedom that the western world calls for, we submit to Allah, and our slaveship to Allah is millions of times better then their so-called freedom, they are slaves to fashion, cosmitics, clothes, shopping, beauty, men.. etc.
@wo0ozie Then you deny yourself the free will that God has given you. You are not submitting to God but to the words of men written 1400 years ago. You use the word slaveship. While I do not want to get involved in the strengths of Islam v Christianity I would say that Christians do not see their relationship with God as a master / slave relationship but as a bond between a loving father and His children.
@letstorkbollocks yeah, right, christians have nothing but love of God, total blind love, even if a christian is the most horrible sinner, and do all the fawahish, and jews have nothing but fear of God, we muslims are justly balanced, we have love of God, out of our knowledge about God, we have fear of God, because we know about how sever His punishment can be, and We have hope in God, that He will shower us with His mercy, and forgive us our sins and our shortcomings, that is the true belief!
now lets face it, if you dont do that, the so called western civillized world teaches us to have illegal sexual relationship out of the context of marriage, if we cant yet afford it or take the responsibility of it, they gave us that as a substitution, they say this is the right thing to do? are u kidding me? is that the right thing to do? does that gf-bf thing seems to really work? does it ever become successful? and they date at a very early age too, its the same, but its just way to filtheir
All religions say that! Christians say that only good Christians will enter Paradise. Jews believe only Jews wil enter paradise. So who is right? They are all wrong! If I started a new religion tomorrow, I, too, would offer eternal life for believers and terrible punishment for non-believers - it is a good sales plan.
What a horrible man - so full of himself, so full of lies! Women in Muslim Saudi Arabia are not allowed to drive cars or go out without a male escort. They dress from head to foot in hideous black clothes in terrible heat while the men wear cool white linen. Muslim women are often married against their wills and far to young, to men they don't know. Muslim men visit prostitutes and can in some countries marry girls as young as 9. In the west we call them p-philes!
@jomc20 Saudi does not reflect Islam, some of it is their culture. Islamically speaking, women can drive cars, they can wear what ever they want as long as it's modest, they can marry whoever they choose, they are not allowed to be forced into marriage nor do they have to marry someone they don't know. You claim that muslim men visit prostitutes, but that statement itself is ironic. Islam doesn't allow you to marry girls at age 9, only women who have reached maturity with their consent.
@jomc20 This is why I keep telling you to stop pulling examples from people. Most of the cases you speak about are rare, and usually happen in underdeveloped and Islamically under-educated countries. Some of the claims you make on this page are misunderstandings, misconceptions, or blatant lies that you got from some unknown source. Again, if you really want to understand what Islam is about, stop talking to unknowledgeable people on U-Tube like me, go visit your local mosque, and get answers.
Why ask non-muslim women? Because Muslim women are often afraid to speak. They are treated as inferior, second-class citizens by men, punished for letting a little hair or flesh show, kept indoors like prisoners or pets. All women know how muslim women feel. Western women were once treated in exactly the same way and have had a long, hard struggle to break free from male domination. We women have teh right to decide what lives we want to live. Why are you men bullies by nature?
@jomc20 hehe sorry but u r funny when u talk like this :) first women isnt punished or kept indoors like prisoners and so on..as our prophet said ''the best of our Ummah(People) r those who treat their women the best'' so dont see what ppl do in west and how they treat their women,just search what our religion says about it. If u r beliver,if u r scared from God then u will never ever treat ur women bad,u won't cheat her, slap her, even say a bad word..belive me ;)
pt1: if I want to know about the rights of muslim women in islam..i don't ask muslim women, or american converts. I ask Muhammad, his qur'an, i ask nawawi, bukhari, shafi'i', Qummi, Kulayni, mufiid to know about tru islam. islamic knowledge comes from the warathat ul anbiyaa' - inheritors of the prophits..who have studid islam all their lives, have requisit licences, isnaad, authority etc. (cont)
in his Hijjatul wadaa' which means 'women are prisoners in your (men) hand'
and stupidly, muhammad allowed men to marry children, and hav slave women.
sorry but muhammd's islam is a very bad, out-of-date religion whose followers are trying hard to make it look good because they are either juhhaal or liars or cultically mad.
I hope you realise how wrong this is! Why should women stay in the home? Their brains are just as good as men's. No country can afford to waste 50% of its talent!
@jomc20 yes, I'm protesting at the qur'an's dictates. khalid yaseen is trying t fool peepl with a new brand'b islam. which is a good thing. muhammd's religion is imbarrassing.
Muslim women have almost no rights. It saids in the koren a women place is in her parents household , husband household, and her tomb. Thats right Islamist I got this from YOUR koren so shame on you muslim men, shame on islam. Women are mistreated the most in Islam!!!
wardgl, u say in denmark that 70 % of rapes are done by muslims, well i live in america, and 70 percent of rape and crime is done by christians in my country, does this mean that all christians are bad? no it doesnt, stop believing everything you see on tv, and find out for your self, you probably think santa clause is real lol
Should i ask Wafa Sultan , Mr. Yassin ? Or Nonie Darwish ? U ignorant brickhead. Now u will say they don't represent Islam . hah!! Thumbs down to u.. No rape and kidnap u said...what abt 10 year old girls being forced to marry 50 year old sex mongers .
@AfreetSoliman This attitude is exactly why women in Islam fear reporting rape and assault. The first response to a woman who speak up for herself is to call her a whore. What evidence, what proof do you have? Show us please.
@WARDGL In Denmark and Norway, between 65% and 70% of all rapes are committed by Muslims, who as yet still less than 5% of the population. I suppose it doesn't count if it's not in an Islamic country. And no I didn't get those figures from TV I got them by researching legal records.. Anyone who says rape is unheard of in any society is a fool. Like Sheikh Khalid Yassin, an evil hateful fool.
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homie353 1 month ago
yeah rape is unheard of in muslim world, cause you shut them up, we often heard our women worker in saudi arabia got raped, and those who fight back got beheaded. btw why don't want to talk about women in pakistan and afghanistan, are you trying to hide the truth there ?
izmanq 1 month ago
@izmanq Don't misquote the man. He said "almost unheard" not "unheard". There are such problems in the Muslim world, but their extents are not comparable at all The point is that Western countries, the so-called Advanced, the Elite, are having these huge problems within their people.These are statistics, so it is objective my friend.There will be people like you denying reality when even clear, objective material is brought to them, not wanting to acknowledge that perhaps,they were indeed wrong.
loiofnature 1 month ago
MASHALLHA....Shekih ALLHA Gives u long life!
Kashmiri35 1 month ago
@cr4ckb4by you shut your f-cking mouth you ugly dog shit. This muslim brother is trying to educate a f-cking no religion doufis. Your so stuck up ..
MunkeySub 2 months ago
@MunkeySub that is not a way to speak my brother, remember the verse : {O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), not let women (deride) women who may be better than they are; neither defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. Bad is the name of lewdness after faith. And whoso turneth not in repentance, such are evil-doers. Surah Al-Hujraat: 11}
byankaree91 1 month ago
@byankaree91 I guess my words slipped out of my hands when i was typing, Sorry Brother and I am asking Allah to forgive my wrong doings.
MunkeySub 1 month ago
@MunkeySub I wish Allah forgive all of us, and guide all non-muslims, Amen
byankaree91 1 month ago
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@cr4ckb4by stfu, you athiest stop talking shit about islam. (im being like you) LOL its funny how all you can do is swear instead of proving a point.
MunkeySub 2 months ago
Ahahahaha, pedophilia unheard of in the muslim world? Oh yeah, an underage bride has given consent by means of her father so technically it isn't pedophilia, its just their wedding night.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
Some of the Prophet's Sayings, peace and blessings be upon him (The most perfect believers are those who have the best manners, and the best of you are those who treat their wives kindly)
Treat women kindly.
flowr764 2 months ago
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Lets be fare: Jesus is the only way to heaven.
wookieiam1 2 months ago
salam to all.
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housse51 4 months ago 4
And guys dont explain anything to those retards from any religion. They got brains. They dont wanna use their brains? be it. Explain to Allah why he decided all of a sudden to have a son and abandon his uniform method of sending prophets(which is a reason why Christianity is a joke) Judaism is even funnier with its codes and secrets. Please let them face Allah and what a shame standing infront of him sayin that I worshipped...hmmm...hmmmm.....mmmmm....ur son!
Jaymzzz1000 4 months ago
@Jaymzzz1000 And what will you say when you stand before Allah? Where are my 72 virgins? Where is my wine? Where are my little boys to bugger? Don't deny it for it is all quoted in the alleged sayings of your prophet.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks
You think in a today's thinkin my friend. I would stand infront of Allah and ask?
I would for his mercy as there is no guarantee like "the christian assurance that you are saved by god's death for your own good". Even I am followin the right and only preserved divine religion. There are sins that I will "ask" Allah to forgive me for and lotsa other things to avoid even a day in the hell fire, which can happen if you did not repent your sins. Once I am in thats another story :)
Jaymzzz1000 2 months ago
@Jaymzzz1000 You have not the slightest evidence that hell or paradise exists. You have been told they exist and so you believe it. You do not know that your faith is true and right. You have only been told it is by men and, slave like you believe what you are told. But tell me more about Paradise. Will you spend eternity drinking wine, sodomising young boys and having your pick of untold numbers of beautiful women? How silly you are my friend to believe such nonsense.
letstorkbollocks 2 months ago
And for those mentioning words like "dumbass" "ass".
Arent u an ass woshipping a man? and two other Gods?
looooooool
Jaymzzz1000 4 months ago
@Jaymzzz1000 You ask - Arent u an ass woshipping a man? and two other Gods?
Yet you follow the words of a paedophile. A man who at the age of 47 cast his eye on a 6 year old child and took her to his bed when she was 9. What would you say if any man did that today? Would you do it? Would any man who was not the sickest and worse kind of deviant.
letstorkbollocks 2 months ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!
Well Said. The truth reveiled about muslim women.
But still no matter what you do. Disbelievers or believers in human gods etc...
will want partners in hell which they deserve.
Allah The God of all prophets moses jesus noah mohammad, bless you Sheikh Khalid Yassin.
Jaymzzz1000 4 months ago
Talk talk talk.... Ask this guy to start a business and create something rather than take dumb people's money, and I'm confident he'd fall straight onto his dumbass face.
bnyce52 5 months ago
Hmm.... I never knew how easy it was to sell people a bunch of bullshit. All you have to do is yell into a mircrophone and people will agree with you. Put his words down on paper (same exact meaning), and it will read as pure and utter bullshit. THE MUSLIM WOMAN RECOGNIZES HER RESPONSIBILITY!!! muahahahahaaaa.....Every person clapping is just as insane as this douchebag.
bnyce52 5 months ago
@bnyce52 my dear brother, you shouldnt say that because he didnt said anything bad to you, but the truth is that he said the truth and truth is hard to swallow : )
tahatj100 4 months ago 9
@tahatj100 Ask a Muslim woman? I tried to speak to Muslim women in a shop in Aswan Egypt and a couple of angry Muslim men became very agitated and told them to shut up before letting me know that while I was welcome to spend money in the shop I was not allowed to talk to their women.As for the prostitutes in the UK, most of their pimps are .... yep Muslims. Now that is the truth for you.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks well, do you just stop people by on the streets and ask them? is that the right thing to do? they might feel uncomfortable talking about it, and you gotta understand that, some muslim women are not meant to be talking to total strangers, but you gotta do it in the right context, go to your local mosque, or read the Qur'an or the seerah or the biography of prophet muhammed (pbuh) and his wives, the perfect example for muslims and for all mankind, and you will surely find answer
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie You say your prophet is a perfect example for all mankind? He took to his bed a 9 (some say a 6) year old girl. Is this setting a perfect example? Should all men follow in his footsteps and molest children?
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks yeah.. some say 9, some say 6.. ppl say all kinda shitz, but do i have to take my Deen from people? No! my source is the Qur'an and the Sunnah, Aisha was believed to be 9 yrs old when prophet muhammed (pbuh) engaged her, and she was believed to be 12 (fully matured) and reached her puperty when they got married, and it is believed to be the most successful relationship between a man and a woman ever known to mankind! not some flithy stuff Like ROMEO AND JULEIT!
wo0ozie 3 months ago
prophet muhammed's marriage to Aisha pure, the love they had for each others was pure, n purely 4 the sake of Allah, its the best love anyone can ever have, it lasted throught their lives, and he didn't divorce her, nor did he divorce any of his wives, it showed that age difference is not a huge deal inorder for a relationship to be successful, as long as the man and the woman are fully mature, and responsible adults, and also i'd lyk to remind u that mary when she birthed jesus she was 12
wo0ozie 3 months ago
im not meant to defend islam or justify the deeds or actions of the prophet muihammed (pbuh), the teachings of islam, they stand for themselves, and with or without my help or defending, i know no matter how hard i try to convince people or defend islam, it wont work, if Allah doesnt will to guide people, it's Allah's will at the end of the Day, some people will not just see the wisdom and the absolute truth, and i totally understand that! peace :)
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie So you believe that a 12 year old girl just because she has reached puberty can be married off and have sexual relations??? Girls can have their period at the age of 9 it does not mean they are ready for marriage and sex and only a pervert would suggest otherwise. As for Mary being 12, where do you get that? It is not in the Bible. You say you are not meant to defend Islam. The fact is you are not allowed to question Islam. You are told to obey without thinking and that is what you do.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks its totally injustice to try to superimpose ur cultural conditioning and environmental surroundings to a very tough desertic evironment like some 1500 years ago, in the past people didn't use to have the fun and enjoyment and the pleasure that we have, people used to suffer at a very early age, especially at that time, in that very place, you know what a desert means, people used to reach their pupperty so early,
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Think. Think.Think! 12 year olds in any society or culture are CHILDREN!!!! They are not to be used sexually. Your prophet was not perfect and was wrong to bed a child. As for it being the most perfect and pure relationship - who says? Just because your prophet said his lustful desires were right does not make it so. Use the intelligence and rationality God gave you. Learn to think. Learn to question. Learn to challenge.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks why are you trying to make it a case of rape? it is not, Aisha's father, the prophet muhammed's (pbuh) best companion and the closest to his heart, he knew about their marriage, he was more than happy, he thought that's she's ready, and he approved it, and my evidence is, at his time, if it was a wrongful act, the first one who would offend him for doing such a thing, would be the Kuffars, but it was a custom, people used to get married at young ages.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie I did not mention the word rape but it is interesting that you do. Yes people got married young and still do. But she was 9 years old!!!! This is wrong. It was wrong then; it is wrong now. Your prophet would have had the pick of adult women. Why did he find himself attracted to a child? If a man did it today would you agree it would be wrong?
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks show me ur authentic proof that Aisha' (rA) was 9 years old when she got married to the prophet muhammed (pbuh) and lived with him in his home at that age.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
the other thing is the marriages of prophet muhammed (pbuh) all of them, were not by his choice, it was the choices of Allah (Swt), he couldnt reject the will of Allah, he said i only do whatever Allah commands me, eventhough the haters will hate, cuz they just have nothing but hate, no matter how hard we try to explain the truth to them.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Oh no not that!!! This happens so often with religious cults. Not least Christian ones. Now you Muslims believe it. ‘It was not my choice to bed a child it was the will of Allah’. I have studied a number of cults and this is just so so so common. The leader / prophet can do what he likes as long as he claims that he was simply following the will of God. See David Koresh, see Warren Jeffs. And your prophet has used this great little scam to justify his own sick desires.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks ok.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks and ofcourse in islam if u reach pupperty and ur total responsible for ur deeds and acts and words and choises why not? and the prophet muhammed (pbuh) didnt contradict himself, he said, help ur children get married at a early age as soon as they reach pupperty and become mature responsible adultsas much as you can to help them avoid tribulation or (fitna), that will help make them less sinning or having desires for satisfying their animal instincts or lusts
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Now you Muslims say your prophet's truth is as good today as it was in the 7th century. So therefore today in the 21st you must believe that marrying off children as young as 9 is OK. If it was good for Mohammed 1300 years ago it is good today. You may think so. Civilised people, however, abhor the very thought of child sex.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
they used to reach puperty at early ages, it is a fact, just like there some people used to live for 950 and 1000 years, do you know of anyone today who would live for 200 years? apparenty not, you gotta accept the FACTS! she was not 9 years old, well it is good today to get married and settle down as soon as you reach puperty and feel like you can take that responsiblity of marriage and start a family, i'd prefer that than sleepin around with girls without the context of marriage
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie It is not a fact that people lived for 1000 years. For God's sake use your intelligence. Just because a book written by men 1400 years ago says it happened doesn't make it so. You say it is good to marry and settle down at puberty. For many girls this is 10 years old!!! I have 2 daughters 25 and 28. They have travelled extensively. They went to university. They have had loads of fun and had many fine and good experiences. Could they have done that if they had been married at 12?
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
ofcourse not, and what kind of "fun" do you actually talk about? let me guess. sleeping around with guys? being involved in some stupid short-terms relationships? having their hearts broken by buys? being treated like shit after giving their guy what they needed? im sorry, i dont mean to offend you, and im not talking about ur girls, maybe they're modest and chast, and i believe they are, but that is another fact that happens to most girls to day, and u can deny that too, but its true
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie I would agree with you that teenage pregnancies are a real problem in Western society. However, I do not agree that short term relationships or having your heart broken are such bad things. We have all been through it. It’s part of the fun. Love is all ups and downs and Western women have the choice which Muslim women rarely have. Now just tell me - Do you agree that 12 years old is too young to be married even though puberty has been reached.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
wel, dont generalise, i havent been thru it, n its not at all fun to hurt someone, that is what they try to teach you, people have a very different conception of fun today, its never fun to try to hurt or harm someone, im a muslim and i respect women, so i never tried to be involved in a relationship unless im 100% sure, and totally into it, these things are taken seriously in islam, this is the way it shud be, we respect women, not treat them like shit, and that is one proof islam is the truth
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks i expected you to say that, cuz lets face it, in the begining you didnt say that cuz you care and respect women more than islam do, but you just want to find something about islam to point fingers at, and now, you say leaving a girl heartbroken is not a bad thing? yeah.. just shows what kinda person are you, its sick, islam respects women, honors them, to hell with the so-called FUN THAT THEY WANT, drinking, drugging, sex, all this bull, they call it fun?
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie I did not say it was fun to hurt people. I am saying that in relationships people get hurt. If you had enjoyed the pleasure of a romance you would know the pain when that romance ends. It is part of life. As you say you have not been thorough it so with respect you are speaking from a viewpoint of ignorance. You say you have to be 100% sure? How can you be 100% sure if you have no prior knowledge of relationships? How can any young girl know?
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Yes drinking and sex are fun. As is partying and going to nightclubs. Let’s face it plenty of Muslim men are heavily into these things. I find it absolutely extraordinary that you believe sex between two consenting adults is wrong but a 53 year old man taking a 9 year old to his bed is OK.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks and who told you that these things are fun? seeing nothing but naked girls, dancing, and drinking, which harms you, your health, ur wealth, ur brain, ur every living cell, you call that fun? you have jst said that hurting or harming oneself is not fun, but here u go, that's what im talking about, and i know that many muslims do that, but does that mean that the act itself is islamic? just like those so-called muslims who would think of terrorising people, the act is not islamic
wo0ozie 3 months ago
well, you stil believe that she's 9 years old, when he was 53 years old, that is ur problem, as i said, its not my problem, nor islam's problem, and he didnt just took her to his bed, he took her as a wife, a marriage that lasted throughout their life, at was what we call 'true love' and later she became one of the greatest scholars of islam, because of the knowledge that the prophet muhammed used to give her, and because of the love and the trust that they have fe each other.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks im of the opinion that every person that has reached their puperty and able to make decisions on their own, then be it, why do you expect me to force someone, who's matured, and became responsible adults for their own choices to do or not to do something? she was not forced, she did it out of her own will, their marriage lasted thruout their lives, age was not a barrier as long it was the right thing to do, and they got married, it was not a case of rape, or one night stand!
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie You say Aisha was not forced. How do you know this? Because the Quaran says so? What 9 year old girl could possibly make an informed choice on such a matter? How could this child possibly say no to a man considered to be God’s Prophet? Mohammed wanted her; he took her. He could have chosen a mature woman. He chose a very young child
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
well, if you still insist that she was 9 years old, i mean that's really childish and stupid, and its not my fault, nor is it islam's fault, i dunno where garabage sources you get to learn about islam, but islam is islam, and the truth will forever remain truth, but my advice to you, if you want to learn more about islam, learn about it from its sources, the only two authentic main sources of islam would be, the Qur'an and the sunnah of prophet muhammed, his biography, and His seerah
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie OK so was she 12 years old? And you think this makes it better??? A 12 year old is STILL A CHILD!!!! Even you admit Mohammed engaged her when she was six and he was about 50. And you are totally OK with this? All he had to do was say Allah wills it and he can do whatever he pleases. And because Islam forbids any challenges no one is allowed to question it. It is amazing that you condemn sex between consenting adults but believe sex with a 12 year old is fine.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks makes what better? and who are you to say a person is still a child or a kid? how would you know? you know what? its better for you to care about ur society's problem, see what kind of hellish problem have ur western societies caused in this world, from alcohol and drug addiction to the death that results from them both, to the rape cases, the street criminals, looting and thugging, the child molestation, inscet, hatred, injustice, and the list goes on!
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie I do not know what country you live in but I live in the UK (for all its faults many many Muslims want to come here every year) and in the UK and other civilised countries the age of consent is 16. If you have sex with a child under that age you are a paedophile. No, our society is not perfect but we have a real intolerance of the molestation of children.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
do i still have to argue about the age? and that consent thing was only been for lyk 100 yrs? 150 years? 200 years? women in the western world only got the rights to vote just some last few decades, something which islam seems to have given to women some 1500 yrs, and yeah situations change, life changes through ages, 1500 years ago people's nature mentally nd physically psychologically was different then ours, u can ask any social experts, the environemts and the surrounds were different
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Yeah yeah just answer the question. Why do you keep avoiding it? How old was Mohammed and how old was Aisha when they had sex?. You know the answer but you are too ashamed to admit it. I say 53 and 12. Admit it. And saying things change through the ages contradicts Islamic philosophy. According to Islam Mohammed's truth is as good today as it was 1400 years ago. So if it was OK to have sex with a child then it is OK now. At least according to Muslims.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
i have answered it in my very first comment to you, and stop fooling around, to try to make someone feel something that they are not, is realy childish and really stupid, im not ashamed, and i have answered you, its not my fault, blame urself, i said that aisha was believed to be at the age as the virgin mary (rA) when she given birth to jesus, 12 years old, and Mohammed was believed to be 53 years, and he married her for almost 10 years, it is believed to be the most succesfful marriage
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Right so you and I agree that Mohammed was 53 and Aisha was 12. Where we disagree is that I believe this to be totally perverse and obscene. You on the other hand think it is OK. Secondly it is not my intention to offend anyone. I do, however, believe in challenging what I believe to be wrong. I can do this. You cannot. You are not allowed to question or challenge. God made us both and He made us into thinking rational, intelligent beings. Let's not be afraid to question and challenge.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks oh and, FYI, Qur'an is the only religious book on earth that says to Us to question everything in it, to question and examine everything that the Qur'an says, dont just read it or follow it blindly, the Qur'an says if you dont do that, ur not truly a muslim, cuz a muslim has to question and examine everything, and to use their intellects to observe the signs of Allah, and to arrive at the right conclusions, that also one of the reasons why alcohol and drugs are haraam in islam
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks now i got a question for u, why in the world did you come on here, and watch islamic videos? is it just to insult islam and muslims? you dont see us go on youtube, on christian videos, or atheist videos, or non muslim videos and post offensive comments that would insult their beliefs, why would a person do such a thing? can't people find something better to do with their lives? is it the only thing that people try to do, just to go round spread hatred, and lies and foolishness
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Your religion is disgusting and immoral, that is why you deserve criticism and ridicule for believing in fairy tales which create these immoral actions. Believing all non-believers burn in hell is the most pertinent action deserving of criticism and ridicule.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by my religion is disgusting and immoral, what do you expect me to say to that? well, thanks any way, i ask you to tell me then what do you believe to be the truth and what is moral.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
yeah.. you have a real intolerance of child molestation, who are you trying to fool? britain, america, germany, france, australia, the crime rates, rape, adultery, opensexuality, lesbainism, gayism, incest, pedophelia, all crime rates, these statics and serveys are almost unheard of in the muslim world, and they are the highest in the so called western civillized world, end of.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie You say Western societies suffer alcohol and drug addiction, rape cases, street criminals looting and thuggery. Yes yes but 1) many many Muslims every year try to get into Britain. 2) a high proportion of such crimes are perpetrated by Muslims 3) I have been to Pakistan and Egypt and I have seen small children homeless, hungry and begging in the streets. Whatever the faults of our society they are nothing in comparison to the hell of Islamic countries.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
well, muslims imigrate to your lands, alright, that's a fact, is there something wrong with that? the wrong thing i believe, when so called muslims try to do troubles, cuz islam aint no about troubles, so these people who go on the streets shout, yell, smashing cars, do mischeif, loting etc. the act is not really islamic, dont blame islam fe that, and no, dont blame it all on muslims, the people who actually do that, are mostly what u can call whites, blacks, indians, heavy metals, punk etc.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie You say people are satisfied with what they have? Then how do you explain the riots that toppled Mubarak a few moths ago? As for Muslims emigrating to Western countries, no there is nothing wrong with that as such. It is just strange that according to you our societies are so full of crime and filth and yet so many good Muslims would rather live here than in their own Islamic countries. Strange don't you think?
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks now, you dont answer my questions, people are satisfied with what they have, but no one should ever be satisfied with opression, if that is what you are trying to justify, no one stands for opression exept the opressiors, so people shouldnt, and the transgression that the government practice upon people should be stopped, and thats what the people of the countries all over the world are trying to do, why do you blame us for that then?
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie I do not blame the peoples of Egypt, Syria, Libya or anywhere for throwing off their oppressive masters. I wish the people of these countries well and hope their revolution bring in democracy, prosperity and tolerance.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks then what's your problem?
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks i dont think that the western world is only full of crimes and rapes etc. i believe that despite all this badness, there is still some good things about it, and i as a muslim dont like to generalise, so muslims go there inorder to be benifited from what good they have, and inorder that they can enhance their lives, there's nothing wrong with that, and inorder to give dawah too, which they have succeeded in, and thousands of people every year come to islam by the grace of Allah
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie so you actually believe that alcohol, drugs, rape, sex, adultery, fornication, incest, sexual intercourses before marriage to be fun and righteous acts as long as the person is happy, and the marriage of prophet muhammed (pbuh) to Aisha (rA) was a wrongful act? are you kidding me? someone's loosing fucking ground here, double standards goin on, eh?
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks as i said, i dont like to generalise, there are some group of muslims, who go there so they can get rid of some restrictions that they are ristriced to in their countries, and they dont like how strict and clear the truth and islam is when it comes to islam's teachings and profound message, so, i have to say these are not really good muslims unfortunately, all they care about is, girls, luxury, bling, cars, houses, etc. and thats not what islam is about!
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie In islam, women have no rights. When they are treated as a fraction of a man in court. When they are indoctrinated into believing they need to cover themselves and be subordinates to males (their fathers and then their arranged husbands). When they are treated so disgustingly, you cannot defend this by saying this is for their own good or the good of society. It isn't, Islam is fucking despicable and stands in the way of individual rights and personal responsibility. Fuck islam.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by it dont bother me what your saying, cuz i know what islam is really about, and how respected and honored women are in islam. it dont bother me at all, all i care about is the truth.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie What is moral? Equality, individual freedom, personal responsibility. Neither the christian or islamic cult grants any of these, therefore, by description, are immoral.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by i dunno about you? how did you form ur opinions about islam and chirsitianity, and i dunno about christianity? but if people really implements islam, there really will be equality, individual freedom, and let me say 'human freedom' cuz in islam we believe that human freedom is not like God's freedom, you're not just free, 'you're free as long as you do not do harm to one self', and ofcourse in islam you will have the greatest personal responisiblity, and btw. islam is not a cult.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
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cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by yeah, that is your definition, but islam is not really a cult, and ya know what, some few weeks ago i had the chance to talk to a stranger i met in the masjid, he was brit, and we had a real deep peaceful meaningful conversation, what was so special about it is, that he was an atheist, and im a muslim, some times he sounded offensive to islam, but im sure he was because he felt safe, and he knew that im not gonna do him any harm, even though his views on life clashes with mine...
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Just like if I was to say in twenty years from now, I should be able to marry a 6 year and fuck her when she is 9 years old. If I sat here and tried to defend this just given my own personal beliefs, I would be considering a pedophiliac. Yet, if I mask this belief behind the qu'ran, I'm just a practicing muslim.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by why would we need to defend suc ha thing? ya know what, im a muslim and i have never slept around with girls before, i never even thought about doing it outside the context of marriage, go figure.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
Islam is a cult.
cult
noun
1.
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
So what does sharia law say about homosexuals? Adulterers? Women whom are not virgins and were not married? Drinking alcohol? Eating pork? What are the punishment for these infractions? This is what I mean about this cult being immoral. Individual freedom and personal responsibility lack to exist which such precepts as these. You are a pathetic fucking sheep.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
let me just tell you that this guy was an atheist, he claimed that we are just a result of nothingness, this amazing teremendous universe, was just a result of a coincedence, a big explosion sorted out all these things, and made them orchastrated and put into palce the way they are, and he claimed that there is no point in life, thus he's free to do whatever he wants, he's free to be an adulturer, a raper, a drug doer, a drunkard, a liar, a stealer, cuz there is just no point in life
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Nihilism can be scary for most people. Just because you are so weak that this disgusting thing called islam seems to be a point to life, doesn't make it right first and foremost, there is no way to prove any of the supernatural assertions made by either islam or christianity. Secondly, it wouldn't prove to be a point to living life. In fact, the only way you will find your point to life is through experience and understanding what you value.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by my friend, what i think is scary about nihilism is it dont make sense, when this guy argued about nihilism during the convo, at some point it made me feel like i have no purpose in life, then there is no difference between guidance n misguidance, light n darkness, black n white, chalk n cheese, dead n alive, cuz simply 'there is no point in life', but then i recognized that im a muslim, and i thanked Allah fe that. i thank Allah for being guided and not just stumbling in the dark
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie You make your own purpose in life. Life has meaning because you give it meaning. For any proof of just that, look at the immoral cult you have accepted/been indoctrinated into. To say simply because there is no apparent or known meaning to life makes it not worth living is yet another thing conjured up by a total moron. Despicable.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by ok, i just need to ask you, what is immoral about what i believe, or more practically what i do? cuz i would never do something i dont believe in. so go a head and inform me about what i do, just tell me.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie So you're in an islamic state. Your sister has been found to have had sex before wedlock and by sharia law she is to be stoned to death. You help dig the hole and collect the rocks, you are also told by your father and you along with the rest of the community will stone her to death, do you take part?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by well, my sister never had sex in her life before, its not like the so called western civillized world here, we're not just like pigs, we believe in halaal contractual, understood legalimised marriage, this is something we take seriously because of the accountability and the huge responsibility of it, we dont just sleep around, have sex for the enjoy of it, and then when our women finds out that theyr pregnant, we just let them give abortion to it, cuz they'd become murderers.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie You're a delusional brainwashed sheep. The question I was asking was if this was what was going to happen, which is sharia law, would you take part if you were told to? Don't dodge the question and admit you yourself even being a brainwashed little sheep are more moral then your moral tradition.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by and i dont go around digging holes and stoning people, i've never done that in my life, nor did i ever seen it.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie This is what Allah commands, is it not?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by no, if you actually learned about it, cuz you cant just talk or judge something without learning about it, Allah says that if there is only enough witnesses, (4 witnesses) and if only the adulterer or the raper admits it, only then you would have to do it, and in islam a criminal should be treated like a criminal, this is justice, just like you mentioned some of the evil consequences that the guilty people would naturally eventaully face, for their evil actions.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Okay, so your sister had admitted, sharia law is in effect. You are told to take part, do you? And stop dodging the fucking question you retarded piece of shit.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by well, i know my sister would never do that, and even if she does (a3otho billah) i would want to take part, cuz only if the adulterer face this kind of punishment, only then his/ her sins would be forgiven, and it is not this life we care about, it is the after life, so i know its hard but it would be better if they get this as a punishment. its no laughing matter, the only thing we care about in this world is Allah's satisfaction and Allah's justice to be implemented on earth.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Okay, so you clearly don't believe in morality, you would take part and stone your sister while she was buried waste deep with her arms either tied or buried as well so she could not block the onslaught. You do this because you believe this is the right thing to do and the only way she will be forgiven. You just admitted Islam is evil and disgusting, you just admitted you're evil and disgusting.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by yeah, i would do that to your sister too, and Allah's justice should take place, and if it is not for us to be proud of it and implement it, it is us that will be the loser, and dont you think that anyone can ever flee or escape from Allah's justice, Allah is not unaware of what the zalumoon do, the Qur'an says, unless it be as a mercy from Us and as an enjoyment for a while, but Allah will surely has His day.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
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@wo0ozie I retort yet again. What if you're wrong about all of this? What if there was no Allah and this "justice" was man-made, would it be immoral?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
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@wo0ozie What if you're wrong about all of this? What if there was no Allah and this "justice" was man-made, would it be immoral?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie One thing to understand, sociologically, the things you've mentioned other than raping, murdering and stealing, are not crimes. Lying is 75/25, most people lie daily but without any real problems caused from their "little white lies". Drug and alcohol use are rehabilitation problems, there are psychological features to these dependencies which are far from criminal.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by well, what would be a final consequence to drug addiction or drinking acohol? lemme guess? you wanna talk sociologically? millions of people die annually because of the drug addiction and alcohol addiction and the death that results from them both, innit true? most rape cases happens as the person would be intellectually vieled or intoxicated, most car accidents happens as a final consequence of being under the influnece of drugs or alcohol, i gues i dont need to go on..
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie So you mean, we have to do things to help prevent drug and alcohol addiction? Perhaps finding the route cause of these problems? Fuck that shit, lets just adopt this immoral cult and sharia law! That should fix everything!
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by well, do whatever you want, but Alla's Deen will prevail, as should as the truth, and the haters can just keep hating.. this is what they're best at, but the muslims shall not be bothered and we shall celebrate the praises of Allah for the numerous groups of people that convert to islam every year, as they come to know the truth about islam, and they embrace Allah's Deen, this is enough for us. and the more you hate on islam, the more that gives Us faith and encourage, so keep hatin
wo0ozie 2 months ago
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@wo0ozie Answer the fucking question and finally face the truth little sheep. What if you're wrong about all of this? What if there was no Allah and this "justice" was man-made, would it be immoral?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Yes, the more you hear the actual truth, the happier and believing you become with your accepted lies. Perfectly ironic.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by yeah.. so, Peace!
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Run and cower little sheep. Sad you could not admit that your man-made god and beliefs are immoral, you pathetic and disgusting little sheep. Enjoy your immoral dogmatic cult you fucking monster.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by ya know, i would of insult you back, and i could of use offensive language too, but as i look up to the perfect example for mankind, prophet muhammed (pbuh), he never return rudeness with rudeness, he had no place in his heart for hate, and i dont hate, as long as its personal, and as long as you insult me, but it just makes me sad when you insult something that is really sacred to someone, and i can do nothing to you, all i can do for you is to ask Allah to guide you, peace!
wo0ozie 2 months ago
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@wo0ozie Muhammed was a pedophile, you follow a pedophile. Now be a man and answer the question honestly, don't try to dodge it like you did when I asked if you had to stone your own sister because of sharia, would you? Here's the question: What if you're wrong about all of this? What if there was no Allah and this "justice" was man-made, would it be immoral?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Aww, it makes you sad? You believe that I as well as anyone who does not believe in Allah will burn in fire for eternity, so cheer up little guy, accorded to your morally bankrupt worldview, I'll get mine! Sacred? Pfft, more like ignorant moronic bullshit deserving of criticism and ridicule just short of excommunication from all civilized society. Enjoy your delusion and membership in your immoral dogmatic cult, all praise be to allah and his child fucking prophet Muhammed. Deplorable.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
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@cr4ckb4by what do you believe about morality and immorality?
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Always remember, you are a coward you disgusting muslim dog.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by this just shows how lost you are, you have nothing but swearing and saying bad words, and you talk about morality, just needed to tell you that know that the followers of the truth wil never feel the need to curse or insult someone or their belieifs, they needn't to do that. Peace!
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie I stand against the immoral in favor or morality, now answer the fucking question you pathetic muslim dog. If there was no Allah and all of this justice were man made, would it be immoral? The answer is yes, of course it is immoral. It being commanded by this imaginary friend of yours allah makes allah immoral and you a fucking idiot to boot. Think for yourself and give up the fairy tales you pathetic moron.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie No, the followers of your garbage religion will attack and kill anyone who disagrees, what do they get for it? Virgins in paradise? What pathetic fucking drivel, enjoy your fairy tale moron.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Well done sir, i thought you handled that ignorant person very well without resorting to his level of filth. You are an excellent representative of your religion.
MilitiaHQ 2 months ago 2
@MilitiaHQ thanks, i realise that at the end of the day that not everyone is going to accept the truth, and it is not my job to force my beliefs on opinions on them, rather to share my knowledge and my view of the truth and my opinion of how the universe works, or should work, and i would like also to let them share their opinions in views with me, in peaceful respectful manners, that is what my religion taught me, at the end of the day, it's Allah's job to Guide whomso ever He wants..
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie See the christian and jewish book, the old testament, tells christians and jews to do this as well. But they don't, they clearly see this as being something which was acceptable at the time which they've grown out of. Silly them, not listening to the precedent made by their creator. The muslim is much more faithful and will do what allah commands right?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by well, i value islam, the message of islam is what gives me meaning, this is what add value to my life, this is what makes me alive, having a purpose, and living my life fulfilling this purpose, islam gives me the resposiblity towards the creator and his creation, islam is what taught me to be dutiful to my parents, treat them in the kindest and the bestest of manners, it taught me to follow what is right and to stay away from what is wrong, isnt this the freedom that you call for?
wo0ozie 2 months ago
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@wo0ozie You are a pathetic little sheep. Enjoy your delusion and membership in the cult of mohammad, the pedophile.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie If someone wants to cheat on their spouse, they may lose that spouse or friends because of their actions. If someone rapes someone else, they may be imprisoned and perhaps even raped by others in prison. If someone does drugs, they have the chance of losing their life and being a burden on their friends and family. If someone uses alcohol, they may have the same thing happen as with drugs. If they lie, they may be caught and lose trust and social standing, if they steal, they may be
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie imprisoned or face a fine. To say because for everything we understand about the universe, and the fact that every single religion that has come about have been proven time and time again false(morally and for their assertion about the meaning of mankind's place here), to say that because this all is seemingly pointless, everyone is free to do everything, is fucking ridiculous and honestly conjured up a complete and utter moron. There are repercussions to your actions.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by how can you talk about morals when you keep using such bad language bro? islam has not been proven to be wrong, it is just the hate you have for islam doesnt give you the chance to get introduced to the true islam, and you dont need to, just leave us, we have our own accountability, we will face the consecuences of our choices and decisions, just like we believe that you will have the accountability to your choices and decisions.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie But I stand for morality, so me being disrespectful and insulting of you, your intelligence(or lack there of), and your disgusting religious tradition is me being far more moral than you could ever dream. Standing up against things which corrupt and destroy women's rights, lbgt rights, personal responsibility, and individual freedom. I am being moral, whether or not I give a shit about your feelings little sheep.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@wo0ozie Of course it doesn't bother you what I am saying, you're fine with the kinds of despicable disgusting things done in the name of this imaginary being Allah. You are fine to give your life to these ideas and this tradition more than a thousand years old. Any use of your intellectual facilities which in anyway causes you doubt in these dogmas you ignore. You are a sick and disgusting excuse for a human being, not even worthy of being a member of our species. Understand?
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by one question, what brought you here? i hope its not just cause you wanted to clashes with muslims and bring up heated arguments and just offend islam, cuz apparently from the title you could see that this video is addressing muslims.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
@wo0ozie I was sent this video by a muslim defending that women rights were cared about in Islam, which is utterly laughable. But here is the thing, if you're offended good. Try and understand why I'm being offensive you moronic piece of shit. Understand why rational people would look at islam and see it for the disgusting deplorable reprehensible immoral cult it is. You deserve ridicule and criticism for your beliefs.
cr4ckb4by 2 months ago
@cr4ckb4by no, if islam really bothers you, then you dont have to care, just live and let live, and dont be afraid, we muslims dont try to harm or offend others, we dont just go on non muslim videos and keep insulting them, we never even think about that, this is not what islam teaches.
wo0ozie 2 months ago
and im from egypt, our governments not the best, i have always hated governments and politicans, not for what they are, but for what they do, they have never been able to manage to implement justice, the only thing that they do, is caring about themselves, and all the people out there who's homeless, starving, poverty,etc. that is their responsibility, but is islam to blame for that? and most people here understand that, and they take it, they are satisfied with what they have
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie And no I do not want to learn more about Islam. I know what I need to know. It is a backward and ignorant philosophy that stifles the spirit and mind and reduces its followers as you yourself have admitted to slaveship. Historically it was spread by fire and sword and not by people freely choosing it. Its promises to men when they die is perverse and ridiculous - unlimited houris and young boys to sodomise. What does it promise women except the same slaveship they suffered in life?
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks yeah, you know what you only want to know, it doesnt matter to you if its the truth or not, it doesnt matter to you how mistaken your sources could be, just know what you need to know, and yh.. you should leave us to our backward and ignorant philosophy, it wud be better, i've always hated to get into heated arguments anyway, its not gonna get you anywhere, i should of ignored ur stupid comments from the beginning and not respond to it, peace
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie OK so you tell me. how old was Aisha and how old was Mohammed when he first had sex with her. Let's see if you can answer that. I think it was 12 and 53 but please correct me if I am wrong.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
well, ur wrong about freedom, actually if u want to be a muslim, that means that u gotta conform, submit ur own will out of peace and serenity and acceptance to the will of Allah, thats what islam means, so we seek refuge as a muslim to follow our own desires or the so-called freedom that the western world calls for, we submit to Allah, and our slaveship to Allah is millions of times better then their so-called freedom, they are slaves to fashion, cosmitics, clothes, shopping, beauty, men.. etc.
wo0ozie 3 months ago
@wo0ozie Then you deny yourself the free will that God has given you. You are not submitting to God but to the words of men written 1400 years ago. You use the word slaveship. While I do not want to get involved in the strengths of Islam v Christianity I would say that Christians do not see their relationship with God as a master / slave relationship but as a bond between a loving father and His children.
letstorkbollocks 3 months ago
@letstorkbollocks yeah, right, christians have nothing but love of God, total blind love, even if a christian is the most horrible sinner, and do all the fawahish, and jews have nothing but fear of God, we muslims are justly balanced, we have love of God, out of our knowledge about God, we have fear of God, because we know about how sever His punishment can be, and We have hope in God, that He will shower us with His mercy, and forgive us our sins and our shortcomings, that is the true belief!
wo0ozie 3 months ago
now lets face it, if you dont do that, the so called western civillized world teaches us to have illegal sexual relationship out of the context of marriage, if we cant yet afford it or take the responsibility of it, they gave us that as a substitution, they say this is the right thing to do? are u kidding me? is that the right thing to do? does that gf-bf thing seems to really work? does it ever become successful? and they date at a very early age too, its the same, but its just way to filtheir
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KatieeeeRose 5 months ago
Masha,Allah that's the Truth.
smokiezoe2009 6 months ago
@Mohamed534667
All religions say that! Christians say that only good Christians will enter Paradise. Jews believe only Jews wil enter paradise. So who is right? They are all wrong! If I started a new religion tomorrow, I, too, would offer eternal life for believers and terrible punishment for non-believers - it is a good sales plan.
jomc20 6 months ago
What a horrible man - so full of himself, so full of lies! Women in Muslim Saudi Arabia are not allowed to drive cars or go out without a male escort. They dress from head to foot in hideous black clothes in terrible heat while the men wear cool white linen. Muslim women are often married against their wills and far to young, to men they don't know. Muslim men visit prostitutes and can in some countries marry girls as young as 9. In the west we call them p-philes!
jomc20 6 months ago
@jomc20 Saudi does not reflect Islam, some of it is their culture. Islamically speaking, women can drive cars, they can wear what ever they want as long as it's modest, they can marry whoever they choose, they are not allowed to be forced into marriage nor do they have to marry someone they don't know. You claim that muslim men visit prostitutes, but that statement itself is ironic. Islam doesn't allow you to marry girls at age 9, only women who have reached maturity with their consent.
ThePeaceFollower 6 months ago
@jomc20 This is why I keep telling you to stop pulling examples from people. Most of the cases you speak about are rare, and usually happen in underdeveloped and Islamically under-educated countries. Some of the claims you make on this page are misunderstandings, misconceptions, or blatant lies that you got from some unknown source. Again, if you really want to understand what Islam is about, stop talking to unknowledgeable people on U-Tube like me, go visit your local mosque, and get answers.
ThePeaceFollower 6 months ago
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1:43 Many people have asked Muslim women & they are the first to say they are DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BIG TIME you fucking LIAR.
ed11561 6 months ago
Mashallah Khalid Yasin! May Allah bless you! It's so true! Why to ask non-muslim women how muslim women feel? :)
xxxminchyxxx1 6 months ago
@xxxminchyxxx1
Why ask non-muslim women? Because Muslim women are often afraid to speak. They are treated as inferior, second-class citizens by men, punished for letting a little hair or flesh show, kept indoors like prisoners or pets. All women know how muslim women feel. Western women were once treated in exactly the same way and have had a long, hard struggle to break free from male domination. We women have teh right to decide what lives we want to live. Why are you men bullies by nature?
jomc20 6 months ago
@jomc20 hehe sorry but u r funny when u talk like this :) first women isnt punished or kept indoors like prisoners and so on..as our prophet said ''the best of our Ummah(People) r those who treat their women the best'' so dont see what ppl do in west and how they treat their women,just search what our religion says about it. If u r beliver,if u r scared from God then u will never ever treat ur women bad,u won't cheat her, slap her, even say a bad word..belive me ;)
xxxminchyxxx1 6 months ago
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pt1: if I want to know about the rights of muslim women in islam..i don't ask muslim women, or american converts. I ask Muhammad, his qur'an, i ask nawawi, bukhari, shafi'i', Qummi, Kulayni, mufiid to know about tru islam. islamic knowledge comes from the warathat ul anbiyaa' - inheritors of the prophits..who have studid islam all their lives, have requisit licences, isnaad, authority etc. (cont)
AdamSeeb 6 months ago
pt3. muhammad sed إنهن عوان عندكم
in his Hijjatul wadaa' which means 'women are prisoners in your (men) hand'
and stupidly, muhammad allowed men to marry children, and hav slave women.
sorry but muhammd's islam is a very bad, out-of-date religion whose followers are trying hard to make it look good because they are either juhhaal or liars or cultically mad.
AdamSeeb 6 months ago
May Allah bless you !!
nawaramh 6 months ago
pt2:muhammad sed women are 'awrah - if they leave the house, Satan follows them.
the quran says 'wa qarna fii buyuutikinna'. - (women!) stay quietly in ur houses
he mufassiruun say this applies to muhammad's wives AND all muslim women.
AdamSeeb 6 months ago
@AdamSeeb
I hope you realise how wrong this is! Why should women stay in the home? Their brains are just as good as men's. No country can afford to waste 50% of its talent!
jomc20 6 months ago
@jomc20 yes, I'm protesting at the qur'an's dictates. khalid yaseen is trying t fool peepl with a new brand'b islam. which is a good thing. muhammd's religion is imbarrassing.
AdamSeeb 6 months ago
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AdamSeeb 6 months ago
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“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other.” (Koran 4:34)
How true!
sardanapolis 7 months ago
Muslim women have almost no rights. It saids in the koren a women place is in her parents household , husband household, and her tomb. Thats right Islamist I got this from YOUR koren so shame on you muslim men, shame on islam. Women are mistreated the most in Islam!!!
gergar121 7 months ago
wardgl, u say in denmark that 70 % of rapes are done by muslims, well i live in america, and 70 percent of rape and crime is done by christians in my country, does this mean that all christians are bad? no it doesnt, stop believing everything you see on tv, and find out for your self, you probably think santa clause is real lol
reemred1 7 months ago
Should i ask Wafa Sultan , Mr. Yassin ? Or Nonie Darwish ? U ignorant brickhead. Now u will say they don't represent Islam . hah!! Thumbs down to u.. No rape and kidnap u said...what abt 10 year old girls being forced to marry 50 year old sex mongers .
35goga 7 months ago
Should i ask Wafa Sultan , Mr. Yassin ? Or Nonie Darwish ? U ignorant brickhead. Now u will say they don't represent Islam . hah!! Thumbs down to u..
35goga 7 months ago
@35goga
Wafa Sultan is a whore so it find a shelter in the west , America is the lair of whores
AfreetSoliman 7 months ago
@AfreetSoliman This attitude is exactly why women in Islam fear reporting rape and assault. The first response to a woman who speak up for herself is to call her a whore. What evidence, what proof do you have? Show us please.
MsCrazyCuckoo 7 months ago
allaho akbar.haters go sleep
WARDGL 7 months ago
Maybe rape is unheard of in Muslim countries because a victim reporting it becomes a criminal and is punished for it.
MsCrazyCuckoo 7 months ago
@MsCrazyCuckoo lol.ur ignorant of us.u hear about us only in TV
WARDGL 7 months ago
@WARDGL In Denmark and Norway, between 65% and 70% of all rapes are committed by Muslims, who as yet still less than 5% of the population. I suppose it doesn't count if it's not in an Islamic country. And no I didn't get those figures from TV I got them by researching legal records.. Anyone who says rape is unheard of in any society is a fool. Like Sheikh Khalid Yassin, an evil hateful fool.
MsCrazyCuckoo 7 months ago