radeon 4850 tutorial: Putting on an aftermarket vga cooler

[mfcdubshop]

haha i have the same shirt

[bayandsl]

how much for that zelman gpu cooler?

[Bx1337Production]

I have this card with an Arctic Cooler for 5870 (which goes for 4850) and still after 2 years it's a fucking bomb! Can MAX everything except crysis, but since i dont play it i couldn't care less. 4xxx series were and are an epic series

[Neandrathal]

This person is a noob.

[light24bulbs]

so nerdy

[kibblecat1234]

you're not meant to touch the gold pins noob.

[edge160]

does this mount on a 260gtx? thx.

[RTWSonataRTW]

You know you are supposed to let the paste "set in" by running the card right?

[soulman902]

Normally you wouldn't have to wait 24 hours for the Thermal paste to set, just fire it up, the heat will take care of filling in the gaps for you :D

[qYp88]

"wait 24 hours for the thermal paste to set? " wtf ?!

[Maverickas123]

no cooling for the voltage regulators?

[shukero]

no I don't need them. If you have agood airflow this won't be a problem. my case stays at a cool 20C so there is no need for them ^_^

[PBskill]

I'm planning to buy this cooling with a extra chip cooling kit, I hope I can finally get this baby to 1Ghz :-)

[machielste1]

@shukero My card is the small version of the GT220,{GT9500}

Will it fit and do i need a lot of power to run the fan

[XGamingSkaterX]

u missed the cooling for the voltage regulators on the GPU

[shukero]

I didn't "iss" them I simply did not have enough heatsinks for both the ram and those voltage regulators BUT if you have as ggood of an airflow in your acase as I do (IE case temp is always below 23C) you don't need em since the air itself keeps them cool enough. plus my fans speed are the fastest speeds you can get on the market which means there is no static air in my case.

[MrMalstrom]

Why Are the VRM's And the MOSFETS not covered you can Fry your Card

[shukero]

The after market fan comes with essentials only which means the gpu and the 8 ram. The others are optional. I have been using this setup for about 3 years now... I know that I have enough airflow where I don't need those.

[Gamesvideoss]

i hav exact same card

[tugfngjfuvj]

good for you *rollseyes*

[Gamesvideoss]

lol

[msg06769]

what a waste of money on crossfire, you should have gone with 4850x2

[philhalo66]

umm no the 4850 in sli beats the 4850X2

[rickl3n]

1 question:

how about the ram at the back of the videocard?? it isnt covered by heatsinks ?

[cisco760ca]

what? never heard of letting thermal grease set for 24 hours?

[zoop425]

you don't have to, It will set even if you are using it.. so after about 24 hours your temps will go down but it is fine to use till then

[JackieJea]

hey i have a question! i bought a after market cooler and its going to be my first time changing the video card cooler and im wondering if i should put thermal paste/pads on every one of those chipsets on the card

[shukero]

No, if you really did buy an aftermarket vga cooler it should have came with the main heatsink as well as other smaller ones for the RAM on the card. If yours didn't come with any then you need to get a better heatsink.. maybe mine. but the real answer you are looking for is this: the ONLY place you need to put on some thermal paste IS the center of the GPU itself... That is the place where the main heatsink is going. The others already come with thermal paste in the adhesive in the bottom.

[fattymole123]

hey man nice vid! i was looking at a 4850 but unhappy about temps and was thinking of getting the 4850 = $200 + this cooler = $260 or i cud get GTS 250 = $220 which i read has pretty decent temps and probs wudn't need an aftermarket cooler. I hear their performance is the same. What do u suggest? please comment everyone.

[shukero]

Well thank you for the response. And the answer you seek all depends on the setup that you have. all mobos (motherboards) as well as chipsets come with preferred brands and graphics cards. Usually the mobos tell you what they support (either crossfire or sli) which ever one they prefer would probably be the better bet since it was made for/ in co-hoots with that specific brand in mind. that being said, I'd have to tell you to buy w/e the mother board recommends.

[oc5nsli341nforce4]

LOL 24 hours. O_O

I don't wait when I use as5.

[Jakesta42]

can this card run basically every high graphic game on the market smoothly?

[shukero]

yes, this is one of the newer cards. So if it cant put everything up to the top notch it can at least put everything up near the top.

[aceone1988]

can i put the same cooler on a 4870

[shukero]

yes, this vga cooler goes with every kind of card out on the market today. The only card you need special set for is the 8800 series from nvidia.

[juliantazora]

why do you have to wait 24 hours?

[juliantazora]

Correction : You DONT have to waiit 24 Hours for the paste to set!

[jamesENT12]

hi, i have a 4850 and am looking to get one of these coolers, what temps do you get with it overclocked at idle and overclocked underload?

[Peetah16]

why does that 4850 run so hot?? i got a 4830 witch is exacly like a 4850 but with less stream prosesores and it runs 30 idle 40 MAX....

[monsterrun]

becausse the stock cooler is a pos metal.

not even alluminium or even cooper.

its just painted in cooper cloer like.

its a real shitty metal with crap property.

it sucks up the heat and take hours to cool down. (not good metal for cooling).

[Peetah16]

w8 so do they use the same on the 4870?

[monsterrun]

would not suprise me.

[monsterrun]

if you whant a litte course on about cooling.

you don't need a diploma into that to understand it lol. here is it.

metal surface can be technicaly good for cooling. however. using a single platte of matal to dissapate the heat out of all heat source . the way heat dissapation work is.

and this is basic science. it work by exanging temparature.

ex: when you hold a cube of ice in your hand.

the ice melt while taking your heat of your hand. and your hand takes the coolnest of the ice.

[monsterrun]

damn i hate 500 char limit.

what i whanted to say is that a single plate of metal touch all the ram chips and the gpu as well.

they all exange the normal temparature of the metal with their heat. however. the gpu heat so much that it give the metal a bad ratio cool vs heat. so you end up having a cooler not effective at all. all it does is look cool.

best is having a cooling block impacting the gpu only. so the exange of cool and heat is more fair.

[monsterrun]

and mainly the most imporatant it dosn't actually heat up your ram chips. which create artiffacts.

(i have looked at the basic cooler of the 4870. and i must say its in fact much better then the 4850. as it is in 2 parts. gpu cooling is sperated from ram cooling. but still. the metal is too massive for adequate cooling.

(the thicker is the metal the harder it is to cooldown. while it seems to heat quite fast.(bad heat vs cool ratio again).

[monsterrun]

in conclusion. both the 4850 and 4870 base cooler both sucks. and for different reasons.

the 4850 sucks cause its a single plate.

(very bad,heat vs cool ratio)(you better sometimes with real small cooler that dont touch everything)

4870 sucks as well but not as much as the 4850. so leeson to learn is. that any cooler that are based on a single impact plate to supposdly dissapate heat.(they are scientificaly scams)

[gottn211]

Hello i just wonder. I getting meny VPU recovery errors latley with my ATI 4850. It says "VPU recovery has reset you grafics accelerator" It can't be from the other computer components. This is my specs

AMD Phenom 9650 oc ~ 2.6Ghz

790x DS4 mobo

2Gb Ram

800W power supply

ATI 4850 oc 670Mhz 1138Mhz

Good case with good cooling. Everything is cool no overheating... I just keep getting this enoying errors when i playing games surfing on the webb....

Very nice for some good responses :)

[monsterrun]

its your overclock.

you need to install a after market cooler.

the basic one looks cool and looks like it can pretty much do the job. but truth to be told. its pure crap.

[dariusfol]

of course, Zalman rocks mate!

[gaz52]

Do you HAVE to wait 24 hours? Can't you just leave it overnight to set?

[shukero]

I feel like this question has been answered about 4 times now. YES, this is to make sure that the bond between your thermal paste and your card / heatsink will set for optimal cooling.

[shukero]

Your cooling is good for now, but if you are already getting thermal for your cpu, it doesn't hurt to add it to your GC. The cooler on your's is a lot better then the default that was on mine. That's because of the 1 slot designed fan that mine was.... HORRIBLE at cooling.

[shukero]

Well there's your first problem right there. Unfortunately, Arctic VGA coolers have been known to break down completely, if not function incorrectly. It seems that the metal they use for their heat pipes isn't the quality you need to get heat away from your GC. If I were you I'd probably use the heatsinks you have and just get the gv1000 that I have. You wont regret it :)

[shukero]

Wow, that's horrible. What case do you use, and That's to be expected from the default fans. Sometimes they get even up to 80C. That case might have horrible airflow. I have two 25cm fans on the side of my case which also helps with airflow. But my cards never get above 75F

[shukero]

As I have said numerous times in numerous comments: They do not need me to waste $20 on something that doesn't get over 75F. My case Gets very, very good airflow. So maybe that is helping, but I have never seen it get above that, so I don't see wasting $20 for more heatsinks. I have had these in for about 4 months while running fry cry 2 and crysis on ultra hgh settings everyday without overheating or any other GC problems.

[CorruptedKorean]

is it necessary for the thermal paste to wait 24 hrs to set? is this just for the thermal paste that comes with this heatsink? i use arctic silver 5.

[shukero]

Yes, I also used actric silver 5. It says for ANY thermal paste to wait 24 hours. This is so the thermal paste will bond correctly to both the RAM (that gets VERY VERY HOT) and for the GPU so that when it gets hot the thermal paste will be able to do it's job on the BEST terms.

[Kampfkoloss120]

Is this the Msi R4850 T2D512?

[shukero]

Yes it is. This is the Radeon 4850 MSI Overclocked edition.

[Kampfkoloss120]

can you send me a picture of it with

original cooler?

i cant find any, but my package says also oc edition.

i wanna know if it fits :p

[shukero]

slatthewaltt: Static shock depends on the clothing you wear, the carpet you are sitting on, and the climate / condition of the room. Not EVERY room is filled with statically charged particles. I believe you are too worried. These manufacturers go out of their way to make sure that it isn't that easy to statically shock their products.

Also, Wizzkid: the ones you need to make sure you heatsink are the ones that I showed you in the video. If you have extras then do those smaller ones.

[wizzkid08uk]

do i need to place heat sinks on the 4 gray blocks or just the 8 tiny back squares

[Jackles2012]

Lol. Pretty much do this and pretty much do that. Nice video I really needed to see this cooler in a video for reference. Thnx!

[shukero]

MamoDad I explained that at the beginning of the tutorial. I explained that the heatsinks that came with the package and the thermal paste was ALREADY on the card. If I had put on everything it would be been much much longer than it would need to be. And since watching someone put on the same heatsink 9 times as well as put on thermal paste is about as fascinating as watching paint dry I decided to quicken the video and my upload time.

[MamoDad]

What, no thermal grease? If you're going to call this a tutorial please show EACH step please!

[shukero]

I have mine set at 700 and 1100 too

[foxxaw]

the card is overclocked to 700/1100

[shukero]

Foxxaw, I will gladly tell you my temperatures but you must also realize that your temp of your GPU also has to deal with the airflow in your case. Recently I moved my tower from my basement to the highest point in my house. Now my idling has gone up from 30 to 34-35C on idle. Under load it hovers around 37-40C. If your temps are still up at around 56C then I would try a different thermal paste or maybe getting a better case / more fans in your case for airflow.

[foxxaw]

shukero,how are your temps with zalman gv1000,idle and load,i have the asame cooler and i have 37 idle and 57 load

[shukero]

hahahah, well I was talking about computer hardware there; but yes as long as I get along with the cool fat person I dont see why not :P

[DDSproductions08]

"id take coolness over skinieness any day of the week" hmmm so u like cool fat people? XD

[shukero]

You seem to not know about how thermal paste works. It doesn't simply adhere to something it bonds to it. I also don't get what ypou are talking about with nitrogen, but if youn are using that to set the paste faster then you are dead wrong. It's not coolness that sets the thermal paste; that will just make it crack faster :\ it needs to bond at room temperature. Even when just running video your graphics cards still gets hot from running. And this will cause fractures in the bond.

[wantedlonewolf]

24 hours lol.... you dont need to wait that long for a q6600 @4.8ghz on liquid nitrogen to set lol...

jusr drop them straight in people just dont overclock or run any gpu heavy apps... thats the best way to run a gpu in... do that for 24 hours lol

[shukero]

First off to answer your question about the 24 hours leave time: this is to make sure that the thermal compound (paste) adheres to the ram / gpu thoroughly otherwise your ram heatsinks will eventually fall off. Since you played right afterwards I would check the connection between your heatsinks and your ram since it probably has loosened. Also, I have not put any heatsinks on the vrm's because that part doesn't get hot enough to need heatsinks. My case is nice and cool no need for them.

[thymen121]

oke thanks men!

[thymen121]

and is it necesary to put cooling on vrm.

[thymen121]

eeeh, at 40.00 you say that you have to wait 24 ours. for what?? beacause ive also a 4850 and vf1000 cooler but i didnt wait 24 ours. i putted directly on the card and play games(btw my card now stays around 35 degrees0

[shukero]

The stock fan for the 4850 idles at 60 degrees C. That is terrible for just idling, and it reached up to 80c during load. This mean it has a HUGE tendency to over heat, especially when you are playing incredibly graphical games like Crysis. The fan just gets too hot period :P hope that helps.

[shukero]

The Simple answer is "Yes, this supports every make and model that has come out by both Nvidia & ATI. (So Far) The only one you have to worry about are the Nvidia 8800 series which you have to also buy a ram heatsink mount as well."

[Mupp1t]

i think i seen one of those on the 4870. question what is wrong with the stock cooler on the 4850?

[thymen121]

my card was 85 degrees with stock cooler

[Mupp1t]

oh cool. i think they will go less if i put that vga cooler and have it store in my antec 1200

[Younowkoed]

does this work with the 4870 or the 9800gt?

Id apreciate a reply, thanks.

[shukero]

This cooler is made to work with every make and model of Nvidia and ATI graphics cards. Now if you are asking if you can use a default fan from the 3870 series on a 4850 card, I would assume not since they are both different sizes, have their ram in different spots, and have the screws that mount the fans in different positions. You should use this cooler, much less eneergy intensive and it cooler better than any default fan.

[Himom2032]

Can you use the stock cooler, say, with a HIS 3870, along with this? I love the stock look on that cooler.

[shukero]

Yes I am sure. It has worked for over 3 months now like that while playing graphically intense games such as fry cry2 on very high settings as well as crysis on very high.

[shukero]

And also, yes you can put w/e kinda of thermal past you want on it. I put the exact same kind on mine that you asked about.

[shukero]

lol, I already have them for the ram, I don't need anything for those four blocks since they hardly ever even get hot. Them main things you need to protect are the ram and the gpu itself. I can feel those with my own hands and they arent hot at all. Plus I've been playing frycry 2 without a problem on ultra high.

[dunlrock]

VRMs are not those grey blocks, its the 8 tiny black squares near on the right of the grey blocks. Those get REALLY hot.

[shukero]

I have already tested those thoroughly with temp guns and thermal devices. They are not running more than 60-70F if yours is your airflow must be super bad :( No need to spend more money on something that doesn't need it

[dunlrock]

really..? one of my friends bought a VF900 for his 4850 and he kept getting shutdowns when under load with furmark until he covered his VRMs with enzotech mosfet sinks.

[Zxian]

Erm... you might want to get some cooling on the VRM's. Otherwise, you're going to have to spend another decent chunk of money on new cards.

[PentagramReativeX]

it's from palit?

[djlegacy96]

y wait 24hours for the paste?? wtf

[shukero]

Thats because the bonding agent takes 24 hours in order to bond effectively.

[shukero]

yes it says this on the instructions. (although I couldn't wait THAT long and I did mine after about 18 hours)

This is a safety protocol that zalman uses to make sure that the thermal bond adhering the ram heatsinks and to the gpu have completely bonded. It says that "after 24 hours the bond between your ram heatsinks and your ram itself will have reached about 90%."

This is just a simple way of saying: "Make sure to give it enough time so it sticks better."

[2142bf]

Thats really cool. After watching your video I felt alot more confident about changing my video cooler since I have never actually changed the stock fan on my video cards and just seeing u all do it gives me insight how its done correctly . The whole part about waiting 24 hours before use is your advice or part of the instructions?

[shukero]

yes they have I will be uploading the results in a few days. Let me just tell you right now though even without the video. It went from 65C to 35C under stress, and 30C idle :)

[2142bf]

So whats the results? Did you drop the temps? If so how much?

[shukero]

lol, actually, everything went as planned. There is no static if you do not create any :). I am going to be uploading the 3rd video of this install in a bit. Just need to get off of wireless first, keeps interrupting my uploads.

[kevaughanshiu]

static - buuuzhh.. shock!

lawl!