My father was in the Essex Scottish Regiment 2nd Div. he passed away in 2007 at 83 yrs. He fought from 1939 until Victory day. Does anyone know where I can get more info or videos of the 2nd Div. My father suffered decades of nightmares (Post traumatic) yet never complained, he didn't talk much about his service. After the movie Saving Private Ryan he talked about some memories, enough for a great Eulogy at his funeral in california. Any help?
Hear, hear. Not his first and not his last - a much overrated commander who took his failings out on the infantry soldiers when things didn't go to plan.
Hate to have to inform you that Monty had very little to do with this,it was planned by Lord Mountbatten then had to be cancelled and re-scheduled,Monty's advice was that the operation should be cancelled as security and the element of surprise had been compromised, he was over ruled by the other commanders but do not let the facts get in the way of a comment.
In this raid there were 5 our squadrons 302nd, 303th, 306th, 309th and 317th. And a destroyer ORP "Ślązak", which shot down 4 German planes, together with a British destroyer sunk a German patrol boat, rescued a British pilot, officer and 19 Canadian soldiers.
Rear Admiral Nalecz-Tyminski was hailed as a hero in Canada after Dieppe and rightfully so. Strange thing about your figure of 19 Canadian soldiers rescued by Slazak though because Canadian sources indicate that as many as 85 Canadian soldiers could have been evacuated. The Canadians were very grateful because no-one did as much to attempt to rescue Canadians as the captain and crew of the Polish destroyer. Was Nalecz-Tyminski recognized for bravery by the Polish government? I hope so.
@Number7smokesForEver My mistake, it was a long time i`ve learned about Dieppe... you`re obviously right here. Honestly i had no idea about details of that rescue and that it was against the orders.
Romuald Nałęcz-Tymiński didn`t returned to soviet occupied Poland. Served in the British merchant fleet, in 1951 becomed a commander of a Pakistan`s destroyers flotilla, between 1960-79 worked in Bahamas. In 1980 settled for Canada, died in Toronto in 2003, his ashes returned to Gdynia.
French-Canadians fighting in both wars were volunteers and should be recognized but their their contribution, proportionally was negligible. thems the facts. Quebec was not a supporter of either war. fine, but don't try to hop on the "we fought the nazis" bandwagon" now.
Support for the wars was not as strong in Quebec - that is true but it can hardly be called negligible. During the Second World War around 40% of males between the ages of 18 and 45 in Quebec volunteered - that is only about 8% less than in other provinces. This still indicates a high level of support.
@Number7smokesForEver Do we know the division of your statistic between Francophone Quebecers and Anglophone Quebecers, re participation. I understand at the time of the war there was a significant anglophone pop in Quebec? This might be helpful to know.
@Number7smokesForEver Um, the Minister for Militia told the House of Commons in 1917 that only about 5% of the enlistees were French-Canadian. Where are you getting your numbers? Quebec only had around 2 million people at the time, and only 1 French-language battalion ever went to Europe. 40% of Quebec's 18-45 males would have been a lot more than that. In fact, the total Canadian contingent was only around 600 000 - someone would have noticed if 1 in 2 were Quebecois.
Don't forget that very many in the Canadian command welcomed the raid - as did most of the individual Canadian soldiers. "A chance to get at the Hun!" After three years in England doing nothing but training to repel an invasion that never came - while troops like the Australians were fighting in North Africa. They were desperate for anything. It is very hard but I think it was for good. It is hard to say that about 900 Canadian dead but because of them D-Day succeeded and Europe was liberated.
@Number7smokesForEver You forget something : French Canadians. 70% of the french canadians didn't want to enter the war, and were forced to. That is not even a sacrifice, it's murder.
I find that hard to believe considering that in total about 98% of Canadian soldiers and every single Canadian airman and sailor was a volunteer and up until November 1944 all serving in combat were fighting because they chose to fight. 2000 conscripts out of 500,000. Not one French-Canadian who fought at Dieppe was fighting under duress, nor those who fought in Sicily, Ortona, Casino, the Gothic Line, Normandy, the Channel ports or the Scheldt. Tell Duceppe that if you would be so kind.
My father was in the Essex Scottish Regiment 2nd Div. he passed away in 2007 at 83 yrs. He fought from 1939 until Victory day. Does anyone know where I can get more info or videos of the 2nd Div. My father suffered decades of nightmares (Post traumatic) yet never complained, he didn't talk much about his service. After the movie Saving Private Ryan he talked about some memories, enough for a great Eulogy at his funeral in california. Any help?
CaliforniaBern 7 months ago
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My grandfather was on that beach. He was shot several times by the Germans and ended up as a prisoner of war.
wilsonamw1 1 year ago
My grandfather was on that beach. He was shot several times by the Germans and ended up as a prisoner of war.
wilsonamw1 1 year ago
Us ranger was there only to take a new taste of how germans defend their oppression.
Crombo 1 year ago
Monty's screw-up!
Lachausis 1 year ago
@Lachausis
Hear, hear. Not his first and not his last - a much overrated commander who took his failings out on the infantry soldiers when things didn't go to plan.
Number7smokesForEver 1 year ago
@Number7smokesForEver
Dont worry about your soldiers, the German nazi fighters are way better !
MrTheEvilgerman 1 month ago
@Lachausis monty was sent to Africa before the raid too.
rumrich 1 year ago
@Lachausis
Hate to have to inform you that Monty had very little to do with this,it was planned by Lord Mountbatten then had to be cancelled and re-scheduled,Monty's advice was that the operation should be cancelled as security and the element of surprise had been compromised, he was over ruled by the other commanders but do not let the facts get in the way of a comment.
athaidream 1 year ago 4
Lol are the British using Lancasters to paradrop soldiers at like 8:05?
CMDRFandragon 1 year ago
@CMDRFandragon I have to admit I don't know, what kind of transport aircraft the Brits used for para drops. Could be a modified bomber.
Lachausis 1 year ago
... it was ment to be a disaster :(
In this raid there were 5 our squadrons 302nd, 303th, 306th, 309th and 317th. And a destroyer ORP "Ślązak", which shot down 4 German planes, together with a British destroyer sunk a German patrol boat, rescued a British pilot, officer and 19 Canadian soldiers.
VVojtekSoldierBear 1 year ago
Rear Admiral Nalecz-Tyminski was hailed as a hero in Canada after Dieppe and rightfully so. Strange thing about your figure of 19 Canadian soldiers rescued by Slazak though because Canadian sources indicate that as many as 85 Canadian soldiers could have been evacuated. The Canadians were very grateful because no-one did as much to attempt to rescue Canadians as the captain and crew of the Polish destroyer. Was Nalecz-Tyminski recognized for bravery by the Polish government? I hope so.
Number7smokesForEver 1 year ago
@Number7smokesForEver My mistake, it was a long time i`ve learned about Dieppe... you`re obviously right here. Honestly i had no idea about details of that rescue and that it was against the orders.
Romuald Nałęcz-Tymiński didn`t returned to soviet occupied Poland. Served in the British merchant fleet, in 1951 becomed a commander of a Pakistan`s destroyers flotilla, between 1960-79 worked in Bahamas. In 1980 settled for Canada, died in Toronto in 2003, his ashes returned to Gdynia.
VVojtekSoldierBear 1 year ago
@Number7smokesForEver
MrTheEvilgerman 1 month ago
French-Canadians fighting in both wars were volunteers and should be recognized but their their contribution, proportionally was negligible. thems the facts. Quebec was not a supporter of either war. fine, but don't try to hop on the "we fought the nazis" bandwagon" now.
bagueley 1 year ago
@bagueley
Support for the wars was not as strong in Quebec - that is true but it can hardly be called negligible. During the Second World War around 40% of males between the ages of 18 and 45 in Quebec volunteered - that is only about 8% less than in other provinces. This still indicates a high level of support.
Number7smokesForEver 1 year ago
@Number7smokesForEver Do we know the division of your statistic between Francophone Quebecers and Anglophone Quebecers, re participation. I understand at the time of the war there was a significant anglophone pop in Quebec? This might be helpful to know.
timber564 1 year ago
@Number7smokesForEver Um, the Minister for Militia told the House of Commons in 1917 that only about 5% of the enlistees were French-Canadian. Where are you getting your numbers? Quebec only had around 2 million people at the time, and only 1 French-language battalion ever went to Europe. 40% of Quebec's 18-45 males would have been a lot more than that. In fact, the total Canadian contingent was only around 600 000 - someone would have noticed if 1 in 2 were Quebecois.
guysmiley00 1 year ago
@Number7smokesForEver Shit - just realized I was talking about the wrong war. Sorry - please just ignore my stupidity.
guysmiley00 1 year ago
It's sad that so many Canadians were sacrificed just so Churchill could show Marshall what a stupid idea an early invasion was.
andrelebaron 1 year ago
Don't forget that very many in the Canadian command welcomed the raid - as did most of the individual Canadian soldiers. "A chance to get at the Hun!" After three years in England doing nothing but training to repel an invasion that never came - while troops like the Australians were fighting in North Africa. They were desperate for anything. It is very hard but I think it was for good. It is hard to say that about 900 Canadian dead but because of them D-Day succeeded and Europe was liberated.
Number7smokesForEver 1 year ago
@Number7smokesForEver You forget something : French Canadians. 70% of the french canadians didn't want to enter the war, and were forced to. That is not even a sacrifice, it's murder.
JeepDubuc 1 year ago
I find that hard to believe considering that in total about 98% of Canadian soldiers and every single Canadian airman and sailor was a volunteer and up until November 1944 all serving in combat were fighting because they chose to fight. 2000 conscripts out of 500,000. Not one French-Canadian who fought at Dieppe was fighting under duress, nor those who fought in Sicily, Ortona, Casino, the Gothic Line, Normandy, the Channel ports or the Scheldt. Tell Duceppe that if you would be so kind.
Number7smokesForEver 1 year ago
Awesome! I never hear anything about this... great video!
Hadlich000 1 year ago