WSOP 2009 MAIN EVENT FINAL TABLE EP 32 1/8 WORLD SERIES OF POKER

[florgamary]

Taking away all the antics, I would actually enjoy seeing Hellmuth as a mentor. He clearly has skills, but they're often overshadowed by his idiotic rants.

[LeCapitaineNoman]

Easy to say good or bad fold when you see the hole card hm ?

[infinite477]

I think that was the worst fold in iveys career and that it cost him the whole tournament,he could double up there.But i understand that he has a certain stradegy and he has to follow it.

[luismendezs]

@infinite477 Or lose to a set, quads or a straight. How could you know.

[JiveDadson]

Ivy did it wrong. The proper way to play pocket jacks is to raise with them before the flop, and fold them after the flop.

[hdgmusic8]

Funny how Howard and Chris are sitting next to each other. Thieves...

[chinasweetbaby]

wow joe cade what a run from 1 percent to 100 percent

[bbuhelt]

I have folded JJ before preflop maybe 5 or 6 times over the years and all but one time i was either crushed vs KK or QQ or i was outdrawn on. Very tricky hand to play if your reraised.

[TomiAk47]

wow i dont know how to think about the JJ fold, but a very interesting spot ... he is the most feared player at the table and open-raised from UTG which means that all of his opponents better have something, and should think twice about reraising him... its a really tough decision usually you are either a slight favourite (against AK or AQ) or a huge underdog (against QQ or better), i would like to know what iveys thoughts were in this spot, but even more what sahout was thinking..

any opinions?

[bbuhelt]

I think was his thoughts were because of the re-raise he cant just call and run the chance of seeing an ace or king on the flop and since he's out of postion he doesnt want to take the chance of that. just wait til he's in a better spot to get all the money if the middle vs a weaker player knowing he's ahead preflop. chances are with that reraise its either a coin flip vs AK or ur crushed

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[TomiAk47]

@bbuhelt

yea so you agree with me if i got this right?

yea i think if you get reraised you can only call for set value if your opponent and you got both enough behind or push (only in tournament), but i generally dont like the push because you are either a huge dog or a slight favourite (usually)

[bbuhelt]

@TomiAk47

Yes and because ivey's raise was UTG, which usally means a big hand. BUT he did make the reraise on the button which could just be a position bet, but ivey couldnt see through that...I think it was bad play by both players, the raise by saout thinking ivey didnt have a made hand and the fold by ivey but thinking saout did because of his raise. but who the hell am i.. i can see the hole cards hahaha

[aohlundberg]

Folding JJ is almost standard for me.... it is almost not worth calling a minraise....

[gsefirm89]

cada is very bad...... this fold of ivey jj is why is he the best.

[Rogerio34567]

Just shows how good Ivey is. He actually makes the final table.

[4thwonder]

cada's online tournament winnings: $350,000 160% ROI

i agree. he's a lucky donk

[luismendezs]

@4thwonder Way to shut people up.

[TheeNameIsBrandon]

I cant believe ivey folded tje pocket jacks... Just look at it this way the frenchmen would have probably caught a 7

[DKMoonwalker]

there are three ways to play pocket jacks, all are wrong.

[Takkra]

@DKMoonwalker just stupid!

[Graham6762]

I think Cada is the worst player at the table and got incredibly lucky.

[Graham6762]

I think Cada is the worst player at the table and got incredible lucky.

[Itsjustlikemagic]

This is why I hate lucky Donk Cada. I mean I know all of the Main Event winners in the last few years won at least a few hand by sucking out, but Cada's case in the final table was ridiculous. Who else but Cada would go all-in early with A J offsuit. What an idiot Donk. Cada= Not a real poker player just a lucky Donk.

[awerg69]

1:50 PHIL IVEY FOLDS JJ WHAT A FISH!!!!!!!!!!

[awerg69]

phil ivey = fish folds JJ what a donkie

[fadymcr]

@awerg69 it'll take you like 10 years to understand buddy, ten years...

[awerg69]

@fadymcr phil ivey folded JJ, he is donk, u dont understand idiot how u fold JJ go all in lolz

[superdave31]

wow didnt realise he came back from 5 big blinds lol. Altho he had luck on his side thru the entire final table

[DanieINegreanu2121]

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[schnoods302]

lol ivey wasnt available to coach, but hellmuth was.

Probably a good thing, both Ivey and schuman are on the final table together.

[Vempir97]

vive la FRANCE

[bladum]

i dont get ivey foldng jj?

[DetectiveTudor]

That´s why he is Ivey. You probably would play jj anytime.

[Vengion]

@DetectiveTudor

The only reason he folded was becouse he thinks he´s better than the other players, which he is.. And he did´nt want to flip a coin, he probably put him on AQ or AK

[Crazykiux]

yeahh thatsunbelievable

[filmpje101]

unbelievable he still won this one

[DustinAlanSmith]

@filmpje101 haha yeah. i think anyone that can get about 1 million in the main event is a winner