I think that, soon or after, UK will "confront" against the new USSR that-probably- killed Litvinenko to worry British people. England is strong, but She is vulnerable to submarine-led naval blockades, and British duty should be be vry strong in anti- Osca-class warfare! I hope that British fleet is able to stop Russian aims to world dominion
I hope these are the first steps to Britain getting its mighy Navy back. Can someone answer me, how many carriers does Britain have (excl these next two) from what i've heard from Americans we have bugger all. Personally i dont know.
:D tbh we are the most well trained army in the world. And quality is better than quantity. Our army is very good and that is something to be very proud of, e.g. SAS, SBS, RAF, RN and our tanks are beastly (Challenger 2 the best tank in the world.)
@tommybritain Where did you get all that info? Are you British by any chance? What do you really know about the world's militaries to say that we have the best? The US easily has a vastly superior military as they spend more on their military than the rest of the world combined. They don't mess around when it comes to their military. The UK doesn't have the burden of being the worlds sole superpower.
The SAS has a good reputation, but the US again comes out on tops in the special ops department
@tommybritain Also, the French and German military are about equal to us in terms of raw power. The German military is actually stronger in terms of land warfare capability. They have more tanks, more manpower etc.
@tommybritain dont kid yourself, America's military is not what puts the US in debt, the US spends 4% of its gdp on military, like any other country. Americans debt as a percentage of gdp is not much greater than any other European nation. Certainly not nearly as bad as WWII
The problem with Aircraft carriers is that they are all missile magnets. The Americans have 12. It only takes one missile to sink a ship like this. The Larger something is the much larger the target. ie..SS-N-12 Sandbox nuclear-capable supersonic anti-ship missiles...
Remember the Silkworm missile that was shot down by seadart.. it went right through the US defence screen. Good luck!
Thats why we have recently built and commisioned 6 Type 45 air defence ships to prevent that from happening, they are the most advanced destroyers in the world, and 100% British.
Thing is tho speacialforces, these things dont travel single handed, they are escorted by potentially dozens of coalition warships, frigates and destrroyers, so its got plenty of technology to seek out a missile.
I takes a lot more that one missile to sink an aircraft carrier, even if one hits it. Plus when you have a fully networked carrier battle group equipped with missile defense, it takes hundreds of missiles fired simultaneously.
Why is that? Once these babies enters service there wont be a need for any of the Invincible class carriers. Seriously, they've had to remove the Sea Dart to make room for more aircrafts.
I'm an expert on Naval Warfare. Most carriers do not need 2 ATC towers, but this One must be so advanced that to keep everything running smooth it needs Two.
It's about time we spent some serious dosh on our pitiful navy - good to see these new carriers are going ahead - shame they won't have an airgroup in time for their launch. Why are we only building 2?!!
They are going to make the carriers CATOBAR capable and buy F-35 CV instead of B
electricalhobby 1 year ago
I think that, soon or after, UK will "confront" against the new USSR that-probably- killed Litvinenko to worry British people. England is strong, but She is vulnerable to submarine-led naval blockades, and British duty should be be vry strong in anti- Osca-class warfare! I hope that British fleet is able to stop Russian aims to world dominion
anisocoro 2 years ago
I don't think England can stop Russia. You need super carries, not these things.
1STACCS 1 year ago
These carriers will be using f-35 jsf and Eu typhoons. But better planes will be around then i bet.
boldertits 2 years ago
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britain bah you all talk bollocks there is no navy to match fuck costs ave meantinlibia
relaxingrollup 2 years ago
I hope these are the first steps to Britain getting its mighy Navy back. Can someone answer me, how many carriers does Britain have (excl these next two) from what i've heard from Americans we have bugger all. Personally i dont know.
snozdog 2 years ago
Britain has the 2nd biggest navy in the world, 2nd to America which have a huge army. (Making them trillions of pounds in debt.)
These super carriers will be bigger and better then any other countrys carriers, apart from USAs.
We have also developed the type 45 destroyer that will watch over the carriers in battle. Currently we have 3 aircraft carriers.
tommybritain 2 years ago
Ahh brilliant, the Royal Navy used to be one of the big point of Great Britain i think. It would be fantastic to get it back like it was.
snozdog 2 years ago
:D tbh we are the most well trained army in the world. And quality is better than quantity. Our army is very good and that is something to be very proud of, e.g. SAS, SBS, RAF, RN and our tanks are beastly (Challenger 2 the best tank in the world.)
tommybritain 2 years ago
Ahh now that stuff i do know :D i love watching our troops on the telly, so professional.
snozdog 2 years ago
@tommybritain Where did you get all that info? Are you British by any chance? What do you really know about the world's militaries to say that we have the best? The US easily has a vastly superior military as they spend more on their military than the rest of the world combined. They don't mess around when it comes to their military. The UK doesn't have the burden of being the worlds sole superpower.
The SAS has a good reputation, but the US again comes out on tops in the special ops department
l337z0r 1 year ago
@l337z0r Wrong
The US Was Defeated At The Combat Trials
And In The Past Ten Years Has Had To Request British SAS To Conduct Missions Its Own Soldiers Are Incapable Of
Stick To Proven Facts
Your A Victim Of Arrogance And Propaganda
1MagicAndMayhem1 9 months ago
@tommybritain Also, the French and German military are about equal to us in terms of raw power. The German military is actually stronger in terms of land warfare capability. They have more tanks, more manpower etc.
We probably have a better Navy and Airforce.
l337z0r 1 year ago
@tommybritain dont kid yourself, America's military is not what puts the US in debt, the US spends 4% of its gdp on military, like any other country. Americans debt as a percentage of gdp is not much greater than any other European nation. Certainly not nearly as bad as WWII
NJRocks281 2 years ago
Do Britain not have 3? Incincible class: HMS Invincible, HMS Illustrious and HMS Ark Royal
infrared567 2 years ago
HMS Ocean (L12) operates as a heli carrier as well.
MachiavellianHeir 1 year ago
@MachiavellianHeir Its not strictly speaking an aircraft carrier
infrared567 1 year ago
I didn't call it an aircraft carrier.
RTFQ.
MachiavellianHeir 1 year ago
The problem with Aircraft carriers is that they are all missile magnets. The Americans have 12. It only takes one missile to sink a ship like this. The Larger something is the much larger the target. ie..SS-N-12 Sandbox nuclear-capable supersonic anti-ship missiles...
Remember the Silkworm missile that was shot down by seadart.. it went right through the US defence screen. Good luck!
SPECIALFORCESUK 2 years ago
Thats why we have recently built and commisioned 6 Type 45 air defence ships to prevent that from happening, they are the most advanced destroyers in the world, and 100% British.
SMASHLEYgrowl 2 years ago
Thing is tho speacialforces, these things dont travel single handed, they are escorted by potentially dozens of coalition warships, frigates and destrroyers, so its got plenty of technology to seek out a missile.
infrared567 2 years ago
I takes a lot more that one missile to sink an aircraft carrier, even if one hits it. Plus when you have a fully networked carrier battle group equipped with missile defense, it takes hundreds of missiles fired simultaneously.
NJRocks281 2 years ago
No way.
1STACCS 1 year ago
That will be a very long wait. Don't hold you're breath. This is England don't forget.
fayik123 3 years ago
Why is that? Once these babies enters service there wont be a need for any of the Invincible class carriers. Seriously, they've had to remove the Sea Dart to make room for more aircrafts.
chrthiel 3 years ago
Now delayed for two years. Another triumph for Britain's MOD.
zrepeels 3 years ago 4
I'm an expert on Naval Warfare. Most carriers do not need 2 ATC towers, but this One must be so advanced that to keep everything running smooth it needs Two.
smartperson9 3 years ago
Actually, it doesn't have two. The one in the front is reserved for running and navigating the ship, the one in the rear is for ATC.
chrthiel 3 years ago
It's about time we spent some serious dosh on our pitiful navy - good to see these new carriers are going ahead - shame they won't have an airgroup in time for their launch. Why are we only building 2?!!
twattymb 3 years ago
we only need 2
tommybritain 3 years ago
Why does it have 2 atc towers? Excuse me if i am wrong, i dont know anything about the navy.
blackeagle989444 3 years ago
one of the towers is for navigation..
AerospaceEngineer90 3 years ago
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Well, if it's a Queen Elizabeth class, it should have some symbolic hair, and a purse hanging on the side.
rollingklouds 3 years ago
hey does the british royal navy have aircraft carriers or are these their future versions of carriers?
fartingnoises 3 years ago
We already have 3 aircraft carriers, but they are old, so these much bigger and more technology based carriers will replace them.
tommybritain 3 years ago
oh i see
fartingnoises 3 years ago