but they are different, i can't decide what to beleive. some people say the reason the genetics only matched modern maori was because the real moriori died out years ago. or maybe it was a lie? who knows. it's so hard do dig up the truth from that country!
This is the first time ive seen anything related to the Moriori.They're a lot more similar to Maori then I thought; I wonder if this has always been the case.
@the0th Comprehend much? Or are you disputing the numerous cannibalism archeological sites that have been documented throughout Europe including Germany and France? No one is justifying murder or violence. It is interesting and a pity you dont seem to have the same amount of outrage for the English Govt. that murdered more than all indigenous Maori tribes combined and with their policies 'legally" turned the land over to the very group that killed the Moriori.
the quote read "cannibalism IS practiced in both germany and France." If it replaced "is" with "was" than it might make a little sense. Also it's difficult to say when Europeans became European. So those archaelogical sites mean very little.
There is a lot of misinformation and it hurts so many people have been made to feel worthless. Unlike Mana I am not at the stage of forgiveness of either Ngati Mutunga or Tama Maori or British Govt who started to starve islanders over sealing & whaling & siding with Ngati Mutunga who denied they invaded & their claim of 97% of all monies and land while the indigenous Moriori lost their islands and existance. It took 40 years to "recognise" the Moriori plight.
@ciainformant Does cursing and insulting people make you feel better about yourself? It would be laughable if it werent so pathetic. Nothing you say is logical or makes any sense from a scientific standpoint. You cant even seem to form a coherent sentence or one based on history or logic. I dont even know what you are trying to say besides attempting to attack and insult me on a personal level because you cant refute your bizarre ideas. I feel sorry for you.
The theory that Moriori were in NZ before Maori or were a different race was discredited years ago. Again, please site some specific scientific or academic journal if you are going to continue with these bizarre racist claims. Personally, Im interested in hearing the opinions of Maori from the Taranaki tribes involved and Moriori decendents. Why white European males still think their opinion is significant on something they know nothing about speaks to their continuing arrogance
@ciainformantYYour statement was 'i was reading that there were reminents(spelling error) found of celtic viking living in new zealand pre moriori/maori.'??? Please provide an academic reference to this. Historically Viking remains have never been found further than Russia or the Islamic Empire so this is quite a claim. Being the academic scholar you appear to be Ive no doubt you can back it up.
@ciainformant don't worry you won't find any.The true indigenous have always been the Maoris.The red headed people are a minority, always have been. My mom has red hair .Most of the red you see in town today and peroxided ginges. Also the celts are fairly recent european invention.
its a shame this subject is taboo in nz. Over the years, historical documents have been stolen from libraries, pre-maori remains destroyed, and moriori existance swept under the rug.
Not once in my school years was this subject taught, and the times i questioned my teachers about why we werent educated in the topic, i was either ignored,or givin no explanation while my peers looked at me in horror for daring to to ask.
I have had similar experiences about how the whole existance of the "Moriori" was blatantly denied. Much of it I suspect is a generational thing as from my experience the war generation of White New Zealand was all to eager to use the whole "well the Maori only have the land because they took it from the Moriori". How ever for me growing up I often came into to contact with the post war baby boomer generation who were and in many cases still are in positions of power and influence.
Not enough detail on the "British Boats". Did they just use spirit guides to navigate the water? Or were they imported?
And, then too, what happened to the cannibals? Did they just eat each other? Give high fives and sail back home fat and happy? Is there literate references?
Maori and the other natives of New Zealand are really awesome and interesting cultures, it's a shame they had to eat each other back then... they're good looking people, easily the prettiest of all Polynesians.
@welcomegohome those right here aren't true Maoris. 80% of ppl you saw in this clip are all mixed. basically just honorary Maoris. they are all like 75% irish
That was our tradition back in those days. To attack, eat them and take mana of the land. As with the Moriori they were just a peaceful tribe that didnt want to take on the way the other tribes dealt with welfare. Back in the old old days we were not know as Maori, we were known by the tribe we were from. Maori means Normal. In the south island they are known as Moriori.
Amazing...another piece of history I had no idea about.
This man has such an amazing manor and peace about what happened to his people. Even the older lady only wanted the young to know the history of her people and not to poison them with hate. I think a few people on here could do with spending some quality time with both of them.
Those poor people. The Native Americans are another group that were slaughtered. The question is "are we more advanced now than then" Mana has had a lifetime to accept these attrocities. I wonder how he felt about them when he was young.
@spitoncat This was comman activity amoungst all natives of New Zealand. One tribe always attacked another and they either ate the losing tribe for the mana of the land or they breed with them.
@watchitnz Are their any primitive groups in NEW ZEALAND that still practices canabalism? If not, how long ago did they stop the practice? Does killing and eating another person make it closer to being acceptable behavior. I think that it does in a situation where that is the only food source. If given the choice of being a cannibal or dying from starvation, I would choose to live if I didn't take another life.The soccer team that crashed in the Andes had to eat their dead to survive.
@spitoncat Your first question is a bit backwards and very belittling to my people, what more should I expect from a person that appears ignorant by asking a stupid question. The Chatham island attack was one of the last of these known practices by the natives of NZ. The English didn’t mind this happening as they were busy trying to wipe the Maori race out and this was just helping them.
@spitoncat Back in the accent times it was acceptable behavior, but you would be locked up pretty quick if you thought it was acceptable in today’s society. As I mentioned earlier they did not eat them because they were hungry, they ate them to obtain the mana of the land. More of a native spiritual thing of those times. Im sure if you looked back into history most society’s at one stage practiced cannibalism.
@spitoncat ARe you serious do you think there might still be cannabals in NZ?IF you read abouve it was not for food it was for the enemys mana or power,Research aotearoa a bit more before you ask silly questions,you know we even have cars now!
@nzpaulie69 Are you kidding? I know that NZ is modern with cars and I understand that most are wearing shoes now days. I have a debt of gratitude to a physician from NZ that restored my agility when I thought I was going to be an old man hunched over walking with a cane for support. $30,000.00 worth of surgery just fattened the pockets of a medical institiution. I found a book by Robin McKenzie (NZ physician) in a thrift store for fifty cents, I read it and now I'm as good as new.
cannibalism is practiced in both germany and France. Nicolas cocaign eat his mate alive. Armin Meiwes also hate his duddy. have you heard of the Russian who hate over 10 ppl ?
remember when this plane crashed in the 70s and most ppl in there ate their nearly dead relatives ? you can look it up. you are trying to feign ignorance.
Yes, but those examples aren't examples of societal wide practices of cannabalism just societal outcasts who established infamy by being exceptions to the cultural norm. Completely and utterly different to the societal wide and culturally common practice of cannabalism amongst pre Europan Maori.
@whytedog those were isolated cases, in europe a lot of people still ate one another.You remember armin meiwes and the other russian who ate over about 20 people.he marinated their bodies in lemon and flame grilled them. then washed down that meal with some fine French wine.Obviously if the Maori ate one another they wouoldn't have survived for 1000s of years. before you get me started history books are filled with gruesome stories of european cannibalism PAST AND PRESENT.
Yes, this was one Russian individual and his friend living out their own fantasy. It was not a societal wide phenomina such as with the Maori who held a wide spread belief that turning your enemy into excrement through cannabalism was the ultimate form of closure for hostilities. Anyway it isn't hard to find Maori historians who acknowledge that cannabalism as a form of degrading your enemies/rivals into human waste was a societal wide belief.
@whytedog Most old cultures practiced canblsm in one form or another at one time. Focusing on canblsm is something that The British Empire used as an excuse to "civilize' native people at the same time of taking their land/resources. The TWO tribes that went out to the Chat/ Islands went in a ship they got from the Britis, with guns they got from the Brits with the specific intent of setting up a tradngpost to provide resources to the Brits. Would they have went out there otherwise? I DOUBT IT
they had morals and ethics yet they chose to slaughter,murder and eat innocent people. it doesn't matter if the Europeans gave them guns and a boat, they were not pitbulls incapable of rational thought. bunch of murderers who deserve no excuses.
@whytedog lol! You are blowing smoke at this point.earlier you were making a point that cannibalism was a way of life , now you are offering a context.hostility to legitimate it. if there are no war no cannibalism takes place.So you admitted it wasn't a way of life.Case closed.Oh and like I said earlier the web is chock full of cannibalism stories some as old as 2000 years.You don't like it .
That is a sentiment we all share, I would say. Although I don't know it for a fact, I'm assuming that my ancestors oppressed Indigenous Australians. The past is regretable, so let us move forward and create a better future :-)
what an inspirational man Mana Cracknall is. No bitterness over the past, just taking the best lessons learned and moving on and inspiring others to join him and do the same. There are lessons to be learned here for all of us.
@TrueGreatness73 how is that when there is written proof that these folks were eaten and killed? What is the other side of the story from those who did the eating? " We were on a diet and they shouldn't have dressed up like cupcakes"? What did I miss?
@rosey312 Written proof? That is a contradiction itself.. Many lies. I am afraid your too brainwashed and simple minded to learn the facts so its better we end the conversation right here.
@TrueGreatness73 The proof of the dead was not written by the people killed relatives, but rather the brits. If I was not interested, I would not have asked but it is clear by your harsh response that your feeling are just hurt and you have nothing to offer in defense of your statement, so better we do end it here.
@rosey312 Yes the racist brits that slaved, rapped, murdered and rewrote history to stay in complete control are the people that own you and the people your brainwashed ass listens to so I feel we should end it there. Harsh words? LOL.. Telling the truth can hurt a bit can it? Scared lab rats refuse the truth because lies are more comfortable..
Hang on a moment if we Brits are so racist and prone to rewriting history then why is it that those societies that enjoy the greatest amount of media freedom and freedom to put forward various historical narratives and ideological points of view? Perhaps you should go to the People's Republic of China if you want to see a rewriting of history or perhaps Turkey with multiple examples of genocide covered up by state censorship or how about Russia. Travel and ditch the racism OK
Hang on a moment if we Brits are so racist and prone to rewriting history then why is it that those societies that enjoy the greatest amount of media freedom and freedom to put forward various historical narratives and ideological points of view are either British in foundation/infulenced by the British or Norhtern Europe?
Well just be grateful that you live in a society that is blessed with an autonomous legal system with a court system that is prepared to rule against the government. Be so thankful that Tame Iti and his kind can go on national television and basically say what ever he wants without any repercussions. These are all legacies of the cultural contributions of the British. Talking about disregarding history why is it that so many "Polynesians" are bi-racial and in complete denial?
If you really are great stop using the whole cliche about the whole "Racist Brits" thing as it is getting old and all it really does is expose a really narrow mind set. Do me a favour and tell the other Polynesians/bi-racials in denial that do the whole cliched dabbling with socialism to stop acting like a pack of idiots and put Mao's little book in the rubbish. Can't you see how stupid it looks when a "Maori Party" rep goes to China and calls the NZ media racist. How stupid
@whytedog I am talking about the racist Brits who came to colonize the land illegally, not all Brits you nincompoop!! Learn how to comprehend before you assume and call someone narrow minded.
Well then how is what the British did any worse than what happened to the Moriori or what Te Rauparaha did to South Island Maori. If you want to be taken seriously you should be prepared to acknowledge the above atrocities where I am sure a whole lot of raping a land stealing took place. At the very least the British didn't slaghter and eat. It must be so hard for so many activists who themselves are decscendants of those racist Brits they so dispise.
@whiteanimous I have read countless documentation that dont add up from the European part of my ancestors history.I also was told about my ancestors history that was passed down from generation to generation. There is no political motivation coming from my point of view at all and my only influence is the truth and justice. I know what happened to my ancestors as it happened to many other nationality throughout history with these slave monsters. I can careless if your thoughts dont match mine
aren't they funny.Just because something is written doesn't mean its the holy truth lol! Oral history has just as much value has written history.writings can be counterfeited and lies can be written.lies can be told.and stories can be modified to serve the need of the person who tells them.Basically half of the so called finding are just that tools we use to reconstruct a story and most times only half of the truth is uncovered and only a shred of it is even useful
We all regret the slaughter of Moriori people, and adore their history.
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1Delu 3 months ago
but they are different, i can't decide what to beleive. some people say the reason the genetics only matched modern maori was because the real moriori died out years ago. or maybe it was a lie? who knows. it's so hard do dig up the truth from that country!
whiteanimous 5 months ago
This is the first time ive seen anything related to the Moriori.They're a lot more similar to Maori then I thought; I wonder if this has always been the case.
KCHIEFTAN 5 months ago
"cannibalism is practiced in both germany and France."
WOW... no comment.
the0th 5 months ago
@the0th Comprehend much? Or are you disputing the numerous cannibalism archeological sites that have been documented throughout Europe including Germany and France? No one is justifying murder or violence. It is interesting and a pity you dont seem to have the same amount of outrage for the English Govt. that murdered more than all indigenous Maori tribes combined and with their policies 'legally" turned the land over to the very group that killed the Moriori.
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the quote read "cannibalism IS practiced in both germany and France." If it replaced "is" with "was" than it might make a little sense. Also it's difficult to say when Europeans became European. So those archaelogical sites mean very little.
the0th 3 months ago
why is there so little knowledge of this? this seems more gruesome than even the holocaust. amazing but terrifying piece of history.
the0th 5 months ago
the vikings wiped yous out !!!!!!!!!!!
legalis1 5 months ago
There is a lot of misinformation and it hurts so many people have been made to feel worthless. Unlike Mana I am not at the stage of forgiveness of either Ngati Mutunga or Tama Maori or British Govt who started to starve islanders over sealing & whaling & siding with Ngati Mutunga who denied they invaded & their claim of 97% of all monies and land while the indigenous Moriori lost their islands and existance. It took 40 years to "recognise" the Moriori plight.
livwaterangel 6 months ago
@ciainformant Does cursing and insulting people make you feel better about yourself? It would be laughable if it werent so pathetic. Nothing you say is logical or makes any sense from a scientific standpoint. You cant even seem to form a coherent sentence or one based on history or logic. I dont even know what you are trying to say besides attempting to attack and insult me on a personal level because you cant refute your bizarre ideas. I feel sorry for you.
juliejuliejulie333 6 months ago
The theory that Moriori were in NZ before Maori or were a different race was discredited years ago. Again, please site some specific scientific or academic journal if you are going to continue with these bizarre racist claims. Personally, Im interested in hearing the opinions of Maori from the Taranaki tribes involved and Moriori decendents. Why white European males still think their opinion is significant on something they know nothing about speaks to their continuing arrogance
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@ciainformantYYour statement was 'i was reading that there were reminents(spelling error) found of celtic viking living in new zealand pre moriori/maori.'??? Please provide an academic reference to this. Historically Viking remains have never been found further than Russia or the Islamic Empire so this is quite a claim. Being the academic scholar you appear to be Ive no doubt you can back it up.
juliejuliejulie333 6 months ago
@ciainformant and the Morirori are supposed to be Celts ? lol! sound like you need some real fact checking your damned self.
cannoir 6 months ago
@ciainformant don't worry you won't find any.The true indigenous have always been the Maoris.The red headed people are a minority, always have been. My mom has red hair .Most of the red you see in town today and peroxided ginges. Also the celts are fairly recent european invention.
cannoir 6 months ago
they arrived in British boats?
NYWAORCANZ 6 months ago
Despite history, the Moriori were a peaceful people.Good to see they haven't lost that.
jackalan88 7 months ago
Moriori, the other white meat.
MardukHail 7 months ago
its a shame this subject is taboo in nz. Over the years, historical documents have been stolen from libraries, pre-maori remains destroyed, and moriori existance swept under the rug.
Not once in my school years was this subject taught, and the times i questioned my teachers about why we werent educated in the topic, i was either ignored,or givin no explanation while my peers looked at me in horror for daring to to ask.
darkdax55 1 year ago
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I have had similar experiences about how the whole existance of the "Moriori" was blatantly denied. Much of it I suspect is a generational thing as from my experience the war generation of White New Zealand was all to eager to use the whole "well the Maori only have the land because they took it from the Moriori". How ever for me growing up I often came into to contact with the post war baby boomer generation who were and in many cases still are in positions of power and influence.
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GGLebo23 1 year ago
What happens to good people when bad things happen? That's the lesson here, in my humble opinion.
Honker66 1 year ago
A fantastic short doco..... Wish there was more!
arikimusic 1 year ago
NZ is such a nice place
greetings from Brazil
brasucasoul 1 year ago 2
Not enough detail on the "British Boats". Did they just use spirit guides to navigate the water? Or were they imported?
And, then too, what happened to the cannibals? Did they just eat each other? Give high fives and sail back home fat and happy? Is there literate references?
FUNCLEJ0E 1 year ago
Maori and the other natives of New Zealand are really awesome and interesting cultures, it's a shame they had to eat each other back then... they're good looking people, easily the prettiest of all Polynesians.
welcomegohome 1 year ago
@welcomegohome those right here aren't true Maoris. 80% of ppl you saw in this clip are all mixed. basically just honorary Maoris. they are all like 75% irish
cannoir 1 year ago 2
I wish I could go to the Chatham islands to help restore what my ancestors destroyed.
H0tkebab 1 year ago
That was our tradition back in those days. To attack, eat them and take mana of the land. As with the Moriori they were just a peaceful tribe that didnt want to take on the way the other tribes dealt with welfare. Back in the old old days we were not know as Maori, we were known by the tribe we were from. Maori means Normal. In the south island they are known as Moriori.
watchitnz 1 year ago
The Trees will likely be dead in 20 years? wow, they don't even look Historical.
i doubt it would be the carving into them that would kill the trees off.
i wonder why.
createsutoo 1 year ago
Save culture, continue the tradition! Dont let globalisation die culture, no matter how bad it is!
Valdris1987 1 year ago
Amazing...another piece of history I had no idea about.
This man has such an amazing manor and peace about what happened to his people. Even the older lady only wanted the young to know the history of her people and not to poison them with hate. I think a few people on here could do with spending some quality time with both of them.
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1357ENRIQUE 1 year ago
holy shit shes hot
SoggyPatato 1 year ago
oh what wonderous and morally upright civilizations have perished for the want of the strength to survive
narezul 1 year ago
Those poor people. The Native Americans are another group that were slaughtered. The question is "are we more advanced now than then" Mana has had a lifetime to accept these attrocities. I wonder how he felt about them when he was young.
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spitoncat 1 year ago
@spitoncat This was comman activity amoungst all natives of New Zealand. One tribe always attacked another and they either ate the losing tribe for the mana of the land or they breed with them.
watchitnz 1 year ago
@watchitnz so watch out for the normal people !
Macrotodon 1 year ago
@watchitnz Are their any primitive groups in NEW ZEALAND that still practices canabalism? If not, how long ago did they stop the practice? Does killing and eating another person make it closer to being acceptable behavior. I think that it does in a situation where that is the only food source. If given the choice of being a cannibal or dying from starvation, I would choose to live if I didn't take another life.The soccer team that crashed in the Andes had to eat their dead to survive.
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VinylRecordz 1 year ago
@spitoncat Your first question is a bit backwards and very belittling to my people, what more should I expect from a person that appears ignorant by asking a stupid question. The Chatham island attack was one of the last of these known practices by the natives of NZ. The English didn’t mind this happening as they were busy trying to wipe the Maori race out and this was just helping them.
watchitnz 1 year ago
@spitoncat Back in the accent times it was acceptable behavior, but you would be locked up pretty quick if you thought it was acceptable in today’s society. As I mentioned earlier they did not eat them because they were hungry, they ate them to obtain the mana of the land. More of a native spiritual thing of those times. Im sure if you looked back into history most society’s at one stage practiced cannibalism.
watchitnz 1 year ago
@spitoncat ARe you serious do you think there might still be cannabals in NZ?IF you read abouve it was not for food it was for the enemys mana or power,Research aotearoa a bit more before you ask silly questions,you know we even have cars now!
nzpaulie69 1 year ago
@nzpaulie69 Are you kidding? I know that NZ is modern with cars and I understand that most are wearing shoes now days. I have a debt of gratitude to a physician from NZ that restored my agility when I thought I was going to be an old man hunched over walking with a cane for support. $30,000.00 worth of surgery just fattened the pockets of a medical institiution. I found a book by Robin McKenzie (NZ physician) in a thrift store for fifty cents, I read it and now I'm as good as new.
spitoncat 1 year ago
cannibalism is practiced in both germany and France. Nicolas cocaign eat his mate alive. Armin Meiwes also hate his duddy. have you heard of the Russian who hate over 10 ppl ?
remember when this plane crashed in the 70s and most ppl in there ate their nearly dead relatives ? you can look it up. you are trying to feign ignorance.
cannoir 1 year ago
@cannoir
Yes, but those examples aren't examples of societal wide practices of cannabalism just societal outcasts who established infamy by being exceptions to the cultural norm. Completely and utterly different to the societal wide and culturally common practice of cannabalism amongst pre Europan Maori.
whytedog 6 months ago
@whytedog those were isolated cases, in europe a lot of people still ate one another.You remember armin meiwes and the other russian who ate over about 20 people.he marinated their bodies in lemon and flame grilled them. then washed down that meal with some fine French wine.Obviously if the Maori ate one another they wouoldn't have survived for 1000s of years. before you get me started history books are filled with gruesome stories of european cannibalism PAST AND PRESENT.
cannoir 6 months ago
@cannoir
Yes, this was one Russian individual and his friend living out their own fantasy. It was not a societal wide phenomina such as with the Maori who held a wide spread belief that turning your enemy into excrement through cannabalism was the ultimate form of closure for hostilities. Anyway it isn't hard to find Maori historians who acknowledge that cannabalism as a form of degrading your enemies/rivals into human waste was a societal wide belief.
whytedog 6 months ago
@whytedog Most old cultures practiced canblsm in one form or another at one time. Focusing on canblsm is something that The British Empire used as an excuse to "civilize' native people at the same time of taking their land/resources. The TWO tribes that went out to the Chat/ Islands went in a ship they got from the Britis, with guns they got from the Brits with the specific intent of setting up a tradngpost to provide resources to the Brits. Would they have went out there otherwise? I DOUBT IT
juliejuliejulie333 6 months ago
@julie But every single culture on earth had its share of cannibals.These two slow witted irish convicts are stuck 1858 lol! they want to
a-deshumanize the maoris
b-then make the broad claim that they are saving them ( from themselves )
anyway I am about to eat my grand mother's coq au vin , yum yum...
cannoir 6 months ago
@cannoir Let's hope they find some love and compassion in their hearts clearly they are filled with hate and self loathing. Bon appeti.lol.
juliejuliejulie333 6 months ago
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they had morals and ethics yet they chose to slaughter,murder and eat innocent people. it doesn't matter if the Europeans gave them guns and a boat, they were not pitbulls incapable of rational thought. bunch of murderers who deserve no excuses.
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@whytedog lol! You are blowing smoke at this point.earlier you were making a point that cannibalism was a way of life , now you are offering a context.hostility to legitimate it. if there are no war no cannibalism takes place.So you admitted it wasn't a way of life.Case closed.Oh and like I said earlier the web is chock full of cannibalism stories some as old as 2000 years.You don't like it .
cannoir 6 months ago
myspace.com/escuadronnorteno....
torzidotwisted 1 year ago
My ancestors ate the Morioris.
I wish I could go back to the past and slap them in the faces for doing so.
H0tkebab 1 year ago 2
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That is a sentiment we all share, I would say. Although I don't know it for a fact, I'm assuming that my ancestors oppressed Indigenous Australians. The past is regretable, so let us move forward and create a better future :-)
Klingschor 1 year ago
@H0tkebab You are not responable for what they did. All you can do is be a good person today and teach your children the same.
rosey312 1 year ago
@H0tkebab that was their back then, changing the past would change what we are as Maori today.
watchitnz 1 year ago
what an inspirational man Mana Cracknall is. No bitterness over the past, just taking the best lessons learned and moving on and inspiring others to join him and do the same. There are lessons to be learned here for all of us.
hosslady 1 year ago
very biased documentary.
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73 how is that when there is written proof that these folks were eaten and killed? What is the other side of the story from those who did the eating? " We were on a diet and they shouldn't have dressed up like cupcakes"? What did I miss?
rosey312 1 year ago
@rosey312 Written proof? That is a contradiction itself.. Many lies. I am afraid your too brainwashed and simple minded to learn the facts so its better we end the conversation right here.
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73 The proof of the dead was not written by the people killed relatives, but rather the brits. If I was not interested, I would not have asked but it is clear by your harsh response that your feeling are just hurt and you have nothing to offer in defense of your statement, so better we do end it here.
rosey312 1 year ago
@rosey312 Yes the racist brits that slaved, rapped, murdered and rewrote history to stay in complete control are the people that own you and the people your brainwashed ass listens to so I feel we should end it there. Harsh words? LOL.. Telling the truth can hurt a bit can it? Scared lab rats refuse the truth because lies are more comfortable..
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago 8
@TrueGreatness73 NICE!!!
The1JoeTurbo 1 year ago
@TrueGreatness73
Hang on a moment if we Brits are so racist and prone to rewriting history then why is it that those societies that enjoy the greatest amount of media freedom and freedom to put forward various historical narratives and ideological points of view? Perhaps you should go to the People's Republic of China if you want to see a rewriting of history or perhaps Turkey with multiple examples of genocide covered up by state censorship or how about Russia. Travel and ditch the racism OK
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Hang on a moment if we Brits are so racist and prone to rewriting history then why is it that those societies that enjoy the greatest amount of media freedom and freedom to put forward various historical narratives and ideological points of view are either British in foundation/infulenced by the British or Norhtern Europe?
whytedog 7 months ago
@whytedog You have a lot to learn. This is not a game about white and Polynesians, this is about Polynesians and their land. So either learn or STFU,
TrueGreatness73 7 months ago
@TrueGreatness73
Well just be grateful that you live in a society that is blessed with an autonomous legal system with a court system that is prepared to rule against the government. Be so thankful that Tame Iti and his kind can go on national television and basically say what ever he wants without any repercussions. These are all legacies of the cultural contributions of the British. Talking about disregarding history why is it that so many "Polynesians" are bi-racial and in complete denial?
whytedog 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73
If you really are great stop using the whole cliche about the whole "Racist Brits" thing as it is getting old and all it really does is expose a really narrow mind set. Do me a favour and tell the other Polynesians/bi-racials in denial that do the whole cliched dabbling with socialism to stop acting like a pack of idiots and put Mao's little book in the rubbish. Can't you see how stupid it looks when a "Maori Party" rep goes to China and calls the NZ media racist. How stupid
whytedog 6 months ago
@whytedog I am talking about the racist Brits who came to colonize the land illegally, not all Brits you nincompoop!! Learn how to comprehend before you assume and call someone narrow minded.
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73
Well then how is what the British did any worse than what happened to the Moriori or what Te Rauparaha did to South Island Maori. If you want to be taken seriously you should be prepared to acknowledge the above atrocities where I am sure a whole lot of raping a land stealing took place. At the very least the British didn't slaghter and eat. It must be so hard for so many activists who themselves are decscendants of those racist Brits they so dispise.
whytedog 6 months ago
@whytedog We can discuss this on skpe otherwise STFU
TrueGreatness73 6 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 the british empire was good at that. but, whatever you think the truth is, i beleive it was lost to history.
whiteanimous 5 months ago
@whiteanimous I have read countless documentation that dont add up from the European part of my ancestors history.I also was told about my ancestors history that was passed down from generation to generation. There is no political motivation coming from my point of view at all and my only influence is the truth and justice. I know what happened to my ancestors as it happened to many other nationality throughout history with these slave monsters. I can careless if your thoughts dont match mine
TrueGreatness73 5 months ago
aren't they funny.Just because something is written doesn't mean its the holy truth lol! Oral history has just as much value has written history.writings can be counterfeited and lies can be written.lies can be told.and stories can be modified to serve the need of the person who tells them.Basically half of the so called finding are just that tools we use to reconstruct a story and most times only half of the truth is uncovered and only a shred of it is even useful
cannoir 1 year ago
why would you eat people eww! they could eat something else to survive.
SR120 1 year ago 3
@SR120 But people taste sooo guuuuuuuuuud xD
i am watching it now :D hope it gets interesting because i don't really have time to watch this lol.
GravDiga 1 year ago
@GravDiga haha :D
SR120 1 year ago 2
@SR120 it wasnt for survival, they were eating them to get the mana of the land etc.
watchitnz 1 year ago
@watchitnz alright cool :D
SR120 1 year ago