@sirshibboleth remember there will be many who do miracles in the Lord's Name..to whom HE will reply,"DEPART FROM ME I NEVER KNEW U!!" miracles aren't the gauge ..our lifestyle is...
Great video of someone with enough guts and faith to get out there and do the things that Jesus has called us to do. I see the Pharisees and the doubters are still around opposing Jesus' supernatural ministry today as well. Can't have one without the other I suppose.
This is such a lame trick...Todd lives in an alternate reality ..I'm a Christian but I don't want a sign so bad that I check DISCERNMENT at The door .....if God is using you to heal..GO TO CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL
Presenting this as a miracle from God is nothing short of blasphemy and you will burn in hell for spreading lies. Protestant prayers are not heard by God because only Catholics are Christian. If anyone is interested in learning about true miracles from God, visit my site.
@takethetimetoday "Presenting this as a miracle from God is nothing short of blasphemy and you will burn in hell for spreading lies."-Are you a God? Because you judging him...isnt ONLY ONE God...who gived you a right to speak in His Name?...so who will burn now, you egocentric fuck?
@takethetimetoday Jesus said "All liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire that burns with brimstone." You should believe that and repent for your blasphemy.
Todd is a Believer in Jesus, not a "Protestant." Your Catholic idolatry is what is blasphemy.
Jesus loves people. All people are sinners. That's why he loves even you, with your Catholic heresies.
Jesus does miracles for anyone who will trust Him. You should meet Him. He's Lord and much more gracious than you.
Pause at 1:20. Those legs are clearly the same length. And as a point of interest, having one leg an inch shorter than the other is quite rare. Back pain is of course common but different length legs is not usually the reason! Looking at her, age, large breasts, and excess weight are all likely factors.
@mimmar3891 The video did not give clear video evidence of the leg lengthening, but the woman said he felt her leg grow and that she was healed. There are MANY more videos of miracles on YouTube where the evidence is much clearer, but if you REFUSE to believe the woman's own words, you just refuse to believe. Unbelievers don't get the blessings and miracles "believers" get. You should give that some serious thought.
@911dispatcher Again, you assume I don't want to believe. Listen, I tried for years and years to find any evidence that this stuff was real because I so desperately wanted to believe it. You can say I don't have enough faith but I knew faith-filled people who KNEW God was going to heal them. There was no doubt in their minds. And guess what -- nothing happened. I believe what I saw over and over in real life more than videos on Youtube that show someone throwing their crutches aside.
This leg trick has been exposed as a sham. If you want to see an interesting documentary search "Miracles for sale” a user named “hopelesslypassive” has the whole thing uploaded.
It exposes some well known “healers” and the corruption in the faith healing industry... as well as how to do tricks like this leg one.
This is a sincere question: Do you have any medical evidence to back up what you say to be true? I've talked to a lot of people who talk about healing by faith and never has anyone produced any evidence. How about even a note or testimony from a doctor? Why does it always have to be something unprovable? If you're serious about sharing your faith, you must know that the average person is not going to take someone's word on something so unbelievable.
@mimmar3891 For scoffers like you, there is far more evidence than you are willing to take the time to discover. You want to sit on your butt and challenge people to PROVE IT to you.
Do your own homework and quit being so lazy IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE THE EVIDENCE.
There are thousands and thousands of healing and miracles done each year. "If you're serious"? You're a joke. No one is trying to convince you.
@911dispatcher Excuse me? I am not lazy and I HAVE done my homework. I was a believer for many years and I was convinced that healing was real and someone challenged me to find proof. I was so sure I would find proof everywhere but the more I looked for it, the more it became apparent that no so-called faith healer was ever willing to provide any proof. You think I'm sitting on my butt? You're kidding yourself. What's more, your attitude is anything but loving and Christ-like.
@911dispatcher If there are thousands and thousands of healings and miracles done each year, why does no one ever go to a doctor with the evidence? Do you really expect anyone to see and immediately believe in a Youtube video with someone pulling on a leg and saying it grew? How hard would it be to get a doctor to confirm someone has cancer, go to a faith healing, then go back to the doctor and have it confirmed so the news media could be informed? "You're a joke?" Lovely Christian words.
@911dispatcher Why is it that the only videos we ever see have legs so similar in length that it's impossible to see any supposed difference? Why not make a video of someone with twisted limbs from cerebral palsy having them restored to healthy legs with developed muscle? Surely that wouldn't be any harder for god. Todd White seems to have no trouble making a leg "grow out" but he was stumped when he encountered a man with no legs at all. Where are these videos with clear evidence you speak of?
Do you honestly think Jesus, assuming he's some spirit or something, when he's really dead and irrelevant in reality, would give half a fuck about some random asshole serving hotdogs? NO, if he was the all loving heavenly creator you people say he is, why is he in America helping back pain, when he could be curing cancer, or stopping a rape or feeding the starving people in third world countries, not riding around in some fraud artist to help rich white conservatives. Thank you.
well... that was completely not impressive at all. Todd White is the ultimate charlatan. It's actually blasphemous what he's doing. He's corrupt and he's profiting much money of his psuedo-healing trickery. Instead of moving someone's shoe an inch, I'd like to see Todd White grow an amputee's arm or leg out 2 or 3 feet. unfortunately that will never happen, because Todd White is a deceptive charlatan and has never healed anyone or anything ever.
@SkeeterN we meet again my friend..same trick different charlatan...Todd is a con artist.. No medical proof...same leg scam..GOD IS NOT GOING TO HEAL EVERYONE..as these guys claim....we Are to expose darkness...keep speaking the Truth n Love
@I21GenieLee It's a shame you refuse to believe the Bible. If you understood the Gospel, you'd realize that your remark is exactly parallel to "GOD IS NOT GOING TO SAVE EVERYONE.. as Christians claim..."
If you knew or believed the Bible, you'd understand that redemption was "finished" when Jesus fulfilled the atonement and it's NOT up to God, it's up to "if you believe," but scoffers and unbelievers REFUSE to believe because they refuse to seek God.
Just a simple question. Why why why over and over on Youtube is the easily duplicated miracle of leg lengthening performed. It is precisely because it is an easy parlor trick to perform.I will commend you and your 911 friend for your faith. I will give you that. I just also pray you 2 will have wisdom and discernment on these matters.
@SkeeterN Take a look at my channel and you'll see the PROPER view of the "discernment ministries," which have no discernment AT ALL.
If you spent about ten times the amount of time in the Bible that you do, and stop feeding at the trough of scoffers and blasphemers, you'd understand why people like Todd and Pete Cabrera and thousands of other BELIEVERS get miracles and YOU DON'T. WE BELIEVE GOD'S WORD and you believe the mockers. Mockers ROB one's faith. U PRETEND
There are some people who will not get healed in this life. That is an absolute fact and it may not be through any fault of their own (Lack of faith). I wish that was not the case but it is. But the wonderful thing is these people have the wonderful hope and expectation of one day having a glorified body like Jesus. On that day they will have whole bodies no matter what their condition is in this life. That is truth. You know you have never seen an arm or leg grow back. You know it. Why lie?
@SkeeterN Healing is a mystery. We know our God who created this universe can do anything. The Lord certainly can grow arms and legs back and I do not know the reason why we do not see this happen. Regardless we trust and keep trusting knowing a day is coming when all believers will have whole and glorified bodies like Jesus. We just keep trusting and knowing in our walk with the Master the best is yet to come! The Cross shows us we have a very caring God and we must trust Him no matter what.
You're a liar. The Scripture says, "Let every fact be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses." You cannot find two or three Scriptures that will say what you said (and unfortunately you don't fear God enough to care about your blasphemy) because the Bible doesn't say that at all. You fabricate lies because you cherish unbelief and not the Bible.
The Scriptures says that "by His stripes we WERE healed." You REFUSE to believe the Bible.
A very genuine and real man of God Smith Wigglesworth (healing evangelist) himself said divine healing was a mystery and the person who could figure out divine healing could figure out God. I think I am in pretty good company with Smith on my comment about divine healing being a mystery. Smith did have some amazing miracles happen but his own daughter who went with him always was never healed of her deafness. Was this Smith's lack of faith?
"There are some people who will not get healed in this life. That is an absolute fact and it may not be through any fault of their own (Lack of faith)."
There are some people who will not get born again in this life. That is an absolute fact and it may not be through any fault of their own (Lack of faith).
The same ignorance, stupidity and unbelief is responsible for those IDENTICAL statements. If you don't understand that they are IDENTICAL, then you're stupid.
@SkeeterN You're STILL a liar and unbeliever. I've seen God lengthen legs for almost 40 years. I've watched Him do it dozens of times in many settings. You simply prefer to believe the devil than to believe God. You have that right, but no reward from God.
Internet media is too powerful a means of communication for the devil to NOT spread lies and deception to counter the visibly miraculous. You just prefer to believe God-haters.
Tell me how this one is faked: watch?v=1o_YuLoB-oI
@SkeeterN That's the second post. You're weren't honest enough to deal with it before and I don't think you have enough honesty to deal with it now. When push comes to shove, you'll serve your pride before you'll humble yourself and acknowledge that God is real in ways your hard unbelieving heart refused to acknowledge.
From such comes the adage: Believe and receive or doubt and do without.
If you don't humble yourself and repent, you'll continue the think stupidly, "It's a mystery."
The fact that the devil imitates, mocks, deceives and discredits the grace of God manifested in His gracious physical miracles in response to believing faith, or by His own initiative, doesn't invalidate His miracles or the promises of God, which include, "If you ask anything in My name, I will do it." (Jn 14:14 NASB) To deny that God will answer prayer and to declare ALL manifestations of the miraculous "a scam" is to blaspheme God the Holy Spirit and that is the work of the devil or a fool.
@BludBaut You ever think your man Todd there might be mocking God? He is performing the same leg lengthening scam exactly like the fakers. Why is that? If one leg lenghtner is a scam and the other is the real deal but they perform the miracle the exact same way how does this honor God? Who is truly mocking God? Wouldn't a true man of God avoid like the plague any appearance of trickery and not do the leg lengthening like the fakers do? I prefer the truth not cheap (very cheap) parlor tricks.
@SkeeterN You're such a liar and unbeliever. I've seen God lengthen legs for almost 40 years. I've watched Him do it dozens of times in many settings. You simply prefer to believe the devil than to believe God. You have that right, but no reward from God.
Internet media is too powerful a means of communication for the devil to NOT spread lies and deception to counter the visible miraculous. You just prefer to believe God-haters.
Tell me how this one is faked: watch?v=1o_YuLoB-oI&feature=related
@SkeeterN When you see the video of the link I just posted, I KNOW your response. You won't investigate the man or his testimony; you'll STAND WITH GOD-HATERS to deny the power of God and mock with the unbelievers even though to claim it's fake is to say the man who exercised his faith is a liar and testifying falsely about God, and those with him are joining the deceit, yet what he is doing is SOUNDLY SCRIPTURAL. You just love the agreement idolaters. Committed to unbelief, how hard to believe.
@BludBaut The leng lengthening routine is a cheap parlor trick only a gullible buffoon would fall for. That would be you and your 911 friend btw - mindless robots following some man who does the leg lengtheing scam...talk about a dunce!
@SkeeterN "The leng lengthening routine is a cheap parlor trick only a gullible buffoon would fall for. That would be you and your 911 friend btw - mindless robots following some man who does the leg lengtheing scam."
You're a liar. God has done greater miracles than what you saw here in answer to my faith and prayers. I didn't "fall for" it. I "worked the works" that Jesus did because I BELIEVE THE BIBLE and you don't. You're a "yeah I'm one of them" as long as there's no power.
@SkeeterN Jesus said and it's in EVERY Bible, "All things are possible to him who believes," but you say Jesus is a liar and leg lengthening isn't possible; "it's always a scam." Have you ever prayed in tongues and repeatedly changed your tongue at will as you prayed? (Of course you haven't. Unbelieving Believers don't walk in faith like that!) That's just the same kind of miracle as this is. You don't understand that the miraculous is as easy for a Believer as breathing. Tongues is miraculous.
@BludBaut Do yourself a favor and look up the leg lengthening scam on Youtube. Funny how your hero here does the same trick and in the same way...but knowwwwww...he is the real deal.You guys are so brainwashed you can't see the obvious in front of your eyes. Keep believing a lie. I will keep believing the truth. No cheap parlor tricks..real healings
@SkeeterN "Do yourself a favor and 'walk in the counsel of the ungodly and sit in the seat of the scoffer'."
No, the unfaithful and unbelieving do that. That's your territory -- following the words of blasphemers and God-haters. Wise Christians have better sense. They know that seeking out and listening to unbelief is like deliberately sitting in sewage; it's sure to create problems.
Again, you like that; you continue to do it. I'll stick with God's Word and God's kids.
@BludBaut Let me tell you and your know it all friend 911 something. I saw another fake healer on Youtube declaring some poor kid with spina bifida healed. The kid was the real deal. The healer a phony. Unlike the merciless phonies I have compassion for these poor people. I wept as he tried to walk and kept falling after being declared healed. A film company showed this after the "show" where the audience had only saw him "healed".
@SkeeterN There are more real miracles that are being performed by zealous Believers who love and appreciate the grace and the manifold goodness of God than you have time in your life to examine. Yet, that doesn't mean you don't have the time to find 50 or a 100 or 200. But you'd rather watch the phonies and join with the scoffers to mock God's kids who are pleasing Him with their faith and doing His works.
It's all in that dusty Bible at your house, but I bet it doesn't block the TV
@SkeeterN "Do yourself a favor and look up the leg lengthening scam on Youtube."
It's amazing that you can't hear the unbelief that vomits out of your mouth and not recognize it. That shows that it's REALLY IN YOUR HEART.
Did Jesus say, "If you abide in My Word, then you're truly My disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free"? If He said that, then why is it that you don't want me to go to the Bible for information but to YouTube? hmm. UR an Unbeliever
@SkeeterN "If you abide in My Word, then you're truly My disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free"?
This is the difference between you and me and Todd and Pete Cabrera. You don't love the Word of God. You love unbelief.
It's that simple. Without faith it is impossible to please God. You don't believe that, you don't understand that, you don't care what God's Word says or means. You prefer your pride and unbelief to the precious Spirit of God.
@SkeeterN It's clear that you love your pride more than God. You COULD have said, "it would be great if God's kids could really do miracles like that but I just don't believe it. But nooooooo, you've got to extend your unbelief to blaspheming God's men and siding with God-haters.
I would have already said, "you need to get saved," but your understanding is so darkened, you wouldn't have understood what I meant. "Sozo" includes EVERY need of man and was FULLY ACCOMPLISHED at the cross.
@BludBaut Not everybody gets healed...There is not one case of anyone ever having lost an arm or leg ever growing back has there? Yes or no? No . Thank you. People mock God like your hero Todd by using an old parlor trick on the easily fooled...namely you and your pal 911
@SkeeterN I bet you give your dogs more attention than God. God said "have no other gods before me" for a reason -- a reason you don't care to understand and now your pride has committed you to 'stay the course' on your evil stand of unbelief. Pride is a funny thing. You've now committed yourself to stand against God, His men and His miracles, because you don't fear God and obviously don't hear Him. You'd rather align yourself with unbelievers than humble yourself to God and say, "open my eyes."
@BludBaut My eyes have been opened. You have the closed ones. Your prefer the fake over the real. Anyone and I mean anyone can do the parlor trick of lengthening legs. Is that true yes or no? Yes. thank you, It is the easiest fake of them all so you see it over and over and over on Youtube for a reason. People are easily fooled.Some Christians like me do not want the parlor tricks.. We want reality. Jn 14:6 No cheap tricks..
The evidence that you have no regard for honesty. I honor the Lord and believe His Word and believe in His works. You're a hearer only and you don't do the works or believe them ... except what? One miracle? You lied about me.
"Anyone and I mean anyone can do the parlor trick of lengthening legs." I don't waste my time on frauds. Frauds have a different spirit and don't love God. You don't know the Spirit and judge by what pagans tell you.
@SkeeterN "You have the closed ones. Your prefer the fake over the real."
Again, you're a liar. You don't see more miracles or healings than I do. If you did, you wouldn't love to run with the scoffers and unbelievers. You'd take a stand for the truth of God's Word. ... but you don't believe God's Word. You pick and choose what you want to believe ... whatever doesn't challenge your conscience, huh?
@SkeeterN "You ever think your man Todd there might be mocking God?"
What an INCREDIBLY STUPID QUESTION!
You don't know God. You might be born again BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HIM.
One can't be as stupid and unbelieving as you and know God. God would have already corrected you if you knew Him. FAITH ALONE PLEASES GOD and you don't have the first clue about how to operate in faith or what Paul meant when he said, "whatever is NOT OF FAITH IS SIN" Rom14:23b
@SkeeterN "Why is that? If one leg lenghtner is a scam and the other is the real deal but they perform the miracle the exact same way how does this honor God?"
You are incredibly ignorant, both of the ways of God and the devil's devices. How is it you don't know that the devil is a fraud? How is it you don't know that he's a copycat? How is it you don't know that he's a mocker and it's all to discredit God and keep people in unbelief?
This video shows a recognized and widely respected man of God with almost seventy years of ministry, sixty five years of marriage to one woman with never a hint of scandal, manifesting clearly visible miracles of leg lengthening. This is one example of the miracles which God set in the Church according to 1Cor 12.
God does miracles in response to believing prayer and if this were a scam, this man wouldn't be a part of it. Believe God's Word
@BludBaut I am going to take a chance that maybe you are different than 911. Can't you people get it through your heads I believe in healing. I believe it is real. Why Why Why do you choose to believe a lie? I have had real documented healings in my family. No parlor tricks. Why does Todd (and he may be a good worker for the Lord) I don't know enough about him do this same leg lengthening like the fakers? I just do not like leg lengthening when time after time it is a proven fraud.
The best way to avoid people getting short leg is to stop brothers f**king their sisters in the deep south and then having freaky babies with one leg longer than the other. Freaks! and for those that aren't the result of incest just put your effing shoes on properly you'll get that inch back straight away
I know of some people who are paralyzed and some horribly crippled. They love the Lord through it all. They have faith one day they will have a glorified body like Jesus and that is precious faith. That is the message of the Cross. The best is yet to come. One day we will have glorified bodies like Jesus.
My wife had a tumor the size of a grapefruit healed by the Lord and that was verified by the doctor. My son was healed by the Lord of hearing loss and this was verified by doctors. These healings are precious and sacred to me. I am not going to sit back any longer and watch this leg lengthening over and over on Youtube without calling it down for what is. It is an exposed scam.
@BludBaut 911 get his tag team buddy out LOL. Your a liar..your stupid..your dishonest...your a scoffer..your too proud...if you people were not so pathetic you would be humorous. You don't want to hear of real healings but are gullible enough to watch a proven fraud scam of leg lengthening and get upset when others with an ounce of discernment can see the fakery for what it is.
@SkeeterN I don't lie. I hate lying. All liars will have their part in the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.
You, in this post, lie several times. It's in your heart. You're phony and unbelieving. You'd rather listen to liars than believe the truth of God's Word. Jesus said that nothing is impossible to him who believes, buy God-haters gather performers to stage fakery and you give it the credibility of God's Word and are too blind with unbelief to see you're the devil's fool.
@SkeeterN Discernment? What Scripture is that? Unbelief is your "discernment." The "discernment ministries" all hate the demonstration of the power of God because they're eaten up with unbelief. They ALL put their faith in doctors and themselves instead of in Jesus the LORD of life. You love the world so much you cannot tell the difference between discernment and unbelief. That's to your shame.
"@911dispatcher There are people born without arms and legs and other sad things. Please don't be a total idiot and tell some person without arms and legs that it is their fault because of lack of faith they do not grow arms and legs back. You are a know it all who does not know a fraction of what you think you do. Just keep focusing on the miracle of the day on Youtube the leg lengthening scam."
This is Kenneth Hagin. If one pays very close attention to this video, to dismiss it as a scam, they have to accuse every single person on the stage of being a party to fraud. Two of the leg lengthenings are too obvious to be denied except by liars.
So much for "this is a scam." Those willingly deceived by the devil to slander men of God for operating in the miracles the Word calls for are put to shame by this video and many others.
@SkeeterN You're too proud, too stubborn and too unbelieving for your own good. I've put your user name in my email filter so I won't see your scoffing. Keep lying about God, His Word and His servants if you want to; the devil appreciates it.
What I am saying is there is a couple ways to "leg lengthen" simple hip manipulation works nicely as well. I have seen people on Youtube who have contempt for God do this same parlor trick and the same way and the same results. quit with the stupid remarks and have a christian conversation on this issue
@SkeeterN You put leg lengthen in quotes to suggest it's illegitimate. It's not. Most peoples' body parts are not perfectly symmetrical. It seems you've given no consideration whether faith can remedy that. This is one of many points that a greater depth of consideration of God's Word would give you. There is no need of man that Jesus' atonement didn't meet. You haven't given that due consideration. The lack of consideration you give God's Words is the same lack of consideration you give mine.
@SkeeterN You should know that contempt for God comes from the heart and not the eyes. You should know better than to be deceived by such transparent nonsense.
@911dispatcher I responded to a remark you made to me "you can't be that stupid" I told you to quit with the stupid remarks so we could have a serious discussion
@SkeeterN I see. Well, it was a serious and sincere remark. You CAN'T be that stupid. I expect you to look objectively at the facts and deal with them. You're not doing that. You've parroted the pagans and acted like they speak the truth and therefore every single one of your brothers is a fraud. That is stupid and you can't be that stupid. There is something wrong with your thinking. You have a stronghold and you need to cast it down.
My discussion has been serious from the time I first spoke.
@911dispatcher But I could very well use that language on you with all the exposure of the leg lengthening scam as a fraud you cannot be so stupid to fall for it when it is done the same way the scammers do this trick. Or why so many healings in particular of leg lengthening? isn't there many other illness out there to be prayed over instead of constant leg lengthenings?
I recently had neck surgery. The neurosurgeon said either get the surgery or YOU WILL be paralyzed from the neck down. These are serious issues but to me it was not all or nothing with faith. I prayed for the surgery to go well, I prayed I would heal quickly and used the faith I had specifically that way. I prayed the Lord would guide the surgeons hands. I am doing great today and just am thankful I lived in a time and day where this type surgery was available.
@SkeeterN Your last comment is the most significant. You should analyze it and recognize how you attribute impotence to God and not only that, but before this time, no one had any hope. God is and was able to heal you. You've listened to so much contrary to faith, you chose to trust the doctors. As many have said, "If it weren't for doctors many Christians would have died early," but my Bible says He bore my sicknesses and diseases and if He bore them then I don't have to. That's why Todd prays.
@SkeeterN Don't mistake my words as condemnation. They are rather an explanation. Your faith is your choice. You chose the doctors and it turned out well. I'm glad. What are you going to do when the doctors say, "we can't help you"? You don't seem well prepared for that.
@911dispatcher I chose faith and the doctors. I am very prepared if the doctors ever pronounce I have a terminal illness...death does not scare me..only one thing scares me and that is eternal separation from God. Healing is a great thing but pales to salvation. A friend of mine at church was pronounced terminal cancer but he asked them to do surgery anyway.. With the surgery and faith he has made a miraculous recovery.
@SkeeterN healing IS salvation. You should have learned that in the 80s. Separating them is the devil's deception and breeds unbelief. The Bible DOESN'T SAY, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be born again." The new birth is only the beginning of salvation and deception in this area shows your very limited revelation on Christ's redemption.
I saw this before I left the page. My request still stands. Your hard heart and your precious unbelief has given me my fill.
@SkeeterN "I've put your user name in my email filter" You need to remember that.
"I chose faith and the doctors."
From which Scriptures did you get that? Let me help you think about it FOR THE FIRST TIME. There is ONLY one Scripture that you could use for that (Matt 9:12) but there are more that give strong weight that God alone is our healer (it's part of His very name) and He is jealous (Ps 103:3, Ex 15:26, 2 Chr 16:12-13, Mk 5:26), but you're a compromiser and unbeliever.
@SkeeterN You've lied many times with the very dishonest remark that I reject the real and embrace the fake. It's a shame your conscience is so faulty because it should have smitten you to lie so. I love and embrace all that I see and understand that God does.
That's why I HATE it when a man purports to be a Believer and sits in the seat of the scornful and mocks the children of God for exalting His might and power being manifested as a testimony to His power before the unbelievers.
Plagairsm is different when it comes to preaching the word. I don't care if a message is copied because it is different.. Let's say I hear a great message from a minister and I put some of that in a sermon to me it is no big deal. I personally believe Kenyon would be happy to see the message being spread and it does not matter who gets the credit for it. If people are blessed by it who cares.
Mockery is the world watching video after video of the amazing leg lengthening miracle.Then they can watch people who are atheists do the same miracle with the same technique.I want reality. I want the truth. The truth is God is still healing today and not just leg lengthening over and over.
@SkeeterN You're far too impressed by the mockery of satan's minions. You should make this a matter of serious prayer and ask God to expose its influence in your life. That you would suggest that I REGARD the words of one who simply references a mocker shows you have not appreciation of how this error has poisoned your life. You're regarding unbelief as "truth" and "fact." That's darkness and deception. Jer 48:11 came to mind as I considered your words. You're not fighting the good fight.
@SkeeterN It requires special grace to associate with unbelievers (whether they call themselves Christians or not) and not be strongly influenced by their unbelief. You should know this. You should be able to remember those from whom you had to separate yourself because you didn't want their unbelief to infect you. If you can't remember those situations, then Smith and Kenneth didn't "rub off" on you nearly enough. Remember Smith's words about "leave the newspaper outside" to Lester Sumrall.
@SkeeterN You should remember that flowing in the Spirit REQUIRES faith. Millions miss the grace of God because they reject faith. They reject faith because they don't give sufficient attention to the Word of God (which can bring faith) and walk by sight and not by faith. I'm sure you've heard, "Believe and receive or doubt and do without." I don't know why you've chosen the latter (I'd guess it's those with whom you've chosen to associate) but I spoke up because you "shared" your unbelief.
@911dispatcher Wigglesworth himself said in the church it was not more faith needed but more perfect love. I respect your faith and zeal but remember Paul said if he had faith to move mountains and not have love he was nothing. There are people in this life who were born without arms, legs etc...and life has not been fair to them but they have the hope of one day having a glorified body. The best is yet to come. We are to pray for the sick and leave the results with God.
@SkeeterN You didn't pay close enough attention to Kenneth Hagin or you would know the place of faith in prayer, the responsibility of the Believer and why people don't get healed. Hagin didn't frequently teach thoroughly on this so you would need to listen to a lot of his teaching in a short period of time to "connect the dots."
Andrew Wommack has spent more time on it and his ministry would help you see better.
The Word would also if you can shake loose of the lies you believe.
@SkeeterN "We are to pray for the sick and leave the results with God."
That's just not right. There is NO faith evidenced in that remark. The gifts of the Spirit, the different ways of healing and the responsibility of the one needing healing can all be factors in healing. Unbelievers typically get healed (or miracles) by the faith of the prayer. Christians have much more responsibility to believe for themselves, yet the manifestations of the Spirit come into play here.
@SkeeterN He lied. Careful examination provides NO evidence that Todd EVER pulls anyone's shoes from their heels. It's the work of the devil to deny the supernatural power of God. Leg lengthening demonstrates the ease with which our loving God does miracles. God confirms the Word with signs following. A miracle is worth a thousand sermons. Perhaps if you'd preach the Word instead of preaching mockery, AND believe for miracles, you'd see them too. Your first words that I read were mockery.
@911dispatcher There are a number of ways leg lengthening is done. Pulling of shoes is one, hip manipulation is another but however the technique they always have to be sitting in a chair for the effect. Here is novel idea. Pray for them standing up! I see the world mocking this. I don't mock it I get angered and saddened by it. When people watch on Youtube the same technique of leg lengthening by people who do mock God what do they think when they see Christians doing the exact same techniques?
@SkeeterN That you would take the time and effort to investigate fraud is really great if you want to be a master of fraud. My experience tells me that if I'm having trouble believing God's Word in an area, running to those opposed to the Scriptures will strengthen my unbelief and devastate my faith. You lack of concern here is telling. The ways of fraud, deceit and lies is endless and your life isn't long enough to learn it all. Jesus said to abide in His Word. Why don't you see the contrast?
@911dispatcher I live by His word my friend. You know who really is the author of deceit and that is satan the god of this world. We are to be ambassadors for the Messiah. If you would start showing more of the love of God in your posts along with your faith and zeal I believe you could do great things for His kingdom.
@911dispatcher LOL unlike Todd I do not go around diagnosing people who don't even know their legs need straightening out just to perform the "miracle". In my walk I have yet for an individual to ask for prayer that their legs be straightened. But if they did I would not have them sit in a chair and pray for them like the charlatans. We can pray that prayer with them standing up but it does lose some of the effect but who is looking for effect when you are praying for real healing
@SkeeterN You misrepresented Todd. Why? He moves in the word of knowledge, which is not diagnosing. This IS mockery, regardless of your pretense that it isn't.
Just as most people have differing leg lengths, most don't know it and most people don't ask for prayer for miracles. Your meditation on the Word of God could have shown you all these things if you had done it. Ps 1 is still there. It's not too late to start.
You blaspheme your brethren to call them charlatans. That's an offense.
@911dispatcher Google search leg lengthening scam and you will get plenty of hits and these people are charlatans....many of them will tell you they are charlatans and just exposing the fraud
@SkeeterN I can't believe it. You really are that stupid. Sorry that I refused to believe it. I believe it now.
Let me give it back to you: Google "bible lies" & "bible is full of lies" & "bible contradicts itself" & "islam better than christianity" & "miracles are phony" & "christians lie" "christianity sucks." Want an additional THOUSAND examples?
Go for it. Feed on contempt for God's Word.
Please don't respond to me anymore. You love scoffing and scoffers. Have at it. Get your fill.
@SkeeterN Apparently you don't understand that because people do walk by sight, seeing results does help people to believe. Seeing their leg is short and watching it grow (some feel it and some don't) helps them to believe the next time they hear the Spirit inspire them and it helps the people watching also. This is a common miracle and God set miracles in the church. It's an area of great neglect and this is unbelief and sin. That you've chosen to listen to the devil on this is sad.
That you can't see how wrong that is, is evidence that your spiritual life is hurting. Had you said, "Wait a minute. God is real and does miracles. I've seen and experienced them. While I know nothing about Todd White and whether or not he's operating by the Spirit of God, it's foolish to automatically dismiss miracles," then all I would have said is, "I know something of Todd. He's the real deal and flows in the gifts by faith and the grace of God."
@SkeeterN Leg lengthening is the true miraculous, though sometimes if might be just a healing. We don't need as much knowledge as we need to walk by faith and as Todd says, "Go."
You SHOULD have learned long ago how to spot the work of the enemy. That satan mimics, copies, mocks and deceives is NOT direction from God (or wisdom) that we should stop. Whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed and we should rejoice, not join the devil in mocking.
@SkeeterN Did you look at rogerbahakel comment? It has far more credibility to me than the foolishness of the one your reference.
This woman was working on concrete. Look at her age. Do you really think her shoes were so loosely laced that Todd could have deceived EVERYONE with his "slick" deception of moving her shoe from her heel? You think this woman wouldn't have felt it? You can't be that stupid. You've not thought about these things. You CHOSE to go the route of unbelief initially.
@SkeeterN Do you REALLY think that when Todd asked her if she felt it and she shook her head "yes," that she meant, "Yeah, I can feel you pulling on my shoe"? Your integrity is terribly lacking in your examination of this video.
If Todd is phony, then this woman is a liar and part of the fraud. But you didn't criticize the entire scene as a fraud; you ONLY criticized Todd. Your lack of objectivity should cause you concern for it shows you've given the devil a place.
I really don't get 911 why you are not offended by all the leg lengthening "miracles" going on here on Youtube. Our God and you know this is much greater than this. People see this type healing and they are using the same techniques true unbelievers use as a scam. Why is one real and the others a scam? I am offended by it. I have witnessed true miracles like yourself but I have real problems with all the leg lengthening going on. I t makes me sad really.
@SkeeterN Because I've seen too many dozens of them with my own eyes, both that God has done through those I know and through me. "God has set in the church... miracles." This is UNBELIEF on your part and if you like Wigglesworth and Hagin, you should know better. I know better.
Even IF some are fake, so what? There are phony Christians with phony testimonies. That's not evidence to reject the real. If you'd investigated Todd, you'd see that he's for real.
@911dispatcher If you want a phenomenal miracle that really will boggle your mind, you should see the video where the man from Florida tells about the church property that had Creosote contamination that had been condemned by the EPA. In a Kenneth Hagin meeting, he was in the Spirit and told a demon to leave and said he saw him go. The government came back out and tested the property and found no contamination. The man who wrote the EPA guidelines called the pastor and asked him if it was true.
He told him it was true and that's when the man mentioned that he was the one who wrote the rules. He also told the pastor that he had become a Christian and had heard about this miracle and wanted to confirm it. He also asked if the pastor thought they could do this with the other contaminated areas.
That was from memory of a Hagin torrent. I found the video for you: watch?v=GF2Afy7FKpI
The testimony is early in the video.
If legs bother you, this will make your mind 'tilt'.
as a young teenage boy and EVERYONE was just like you. But Kenneth didn't want to die and being a new BELIEVER, he started reading his Bible and he found the promises of God and raised himself off a deathbed by his own faith WITH NO HELP from anyone pickled in unbelief. He passed away at 86, though the doctors told his mother that they'd NEVER seen anyone live past 17 in his condition.
God taught him to BELIEVE HIS PROMISES. I recommend that you hear his testimony & teaching.
@911dispatcher This is where you made silly judgments against me without even knowing me. I read every book Kenneth Hagin ever wrote. I went to a revival he had in 2002 about a year before he passed away. I firmly believe though he missed it in areas such as focusing too much on prosperity teaching. If you want to read a book from a really great man of God I would suggest Smith Wigglesworth. Not that it matters that much to me but Hagin did copy Kenyon almost word for word in some of his books.
@SkeeterN God anointed Hagin as a prophet. God does nothing but that He reveals it to His servants the prophets. Perhaps you should consider that it was you who missed it. One way is obvious.
Your accusation of Hagin is like your accusation against Todd -- why do you like to accuse men of God of evil, publicly? If you learned anything from Hagin, how did you miss the fact that he didn't speak evil of people, especially behind their backs, and why don't you understand how God values this?
@911dispatcher Hagin copied E.W. Kenyon. I saw that years before it ever came out. It was not a big deal to me. My thoughts were always as long as people were being blessed by it. Having read all of Kenyon's and Hagins books I saw word for word copying by Hagin. Again no big deal but it is an absolute fact he copied. Hagin also copied John Mcmillan's Authority of the Believer and just changed the title to the Believers Authority. Speaking the truth is not speaking evil of anyone.
@SkeeterN Kenneth preached for years before he wrote books. Did you ever consider that his quoting Kenyon for years because he was convinced it was the truth of the Spirit would then make it perfectly normal for him to write out from memory exactly what he preached? I started listening to Hagin on cassette in the early 70s. When I first saw him in person I was very disappointed. Why? Because when he started a sentence, I knew what the rest of the sentence was going to be. I'd already heard it.
@911dispatcher I started reading Hagin in the 80's and reading Kenyon at the same time. At first I was shocked by the word for word copying but it doesn't bother me. It is a good message and people are blessed by it so it is not an issue with me.
In my mind, I thought that if he was led of the Spirit, he wouldn't be preaching from memory and it was obvious he was preaching from memory. Should you or I think he wrote his books any other way? What if you found out that he didn't even write his books, but they were transcribed from his messages? Is he still a plagiarist? I've never hear anyone address this? We quote the Bible and we're not plagiarists. If we quote it a great deal and from the NASB, we could get sued.
Do you understand my point? Do you think that if I have been reading the NASB for years and quote it when I reference the Word and write a book and quote the Bible frequently that I should be sued for quoting God's Word? Obviously you do and many people think it would be my responsibility to give addresses and footnotes referencing the copyrighted work, but Christians whose primary interest is hearing God wouldn't care. Their focus is on hearing the Spirit.
@911dispatcher I remember listening to a Hagin tape once on healing. he was quoting line from line out of Kenyon's Jesus the Healer ...you could even hear him turn the pages as he read...I don't care but the truth is the truth. And it was not only Kenyon but John McMillan as well and in later editions he pretty much finally acknowledged the real source of his book the Believer's Authority was McMillan.
Is that an insult? Not particularly, but it's quite telling. There's a depth to spiritual hearing, just like so many other things. Your spiritual hearing is shallow. Rather than receiving deeply in your heart the Word of God, your attention was divided and your focus easily fell on plagiarism. I could have done the same thing. Multitasking is not a weakness but the more deeply we "attend to (the) Word" (Prov 4:20), the more steadfastly it is established in our hearts.
@SkeeterN It wasn't a silly judgment. It was an assumption but our words didn't suggest that you believe anything Kenneth Hagin teaches. He teaches 'be it unto you according to your faith'. You think praying for legs is wrong. Do you know that MOST people have uneven legs?
I never heard any inappropriate emphasis by Kenneth on prosperity. The teaching of his protégés is not as good. He called them to a meeting to correct them and it's my understanding that they did a little better till he died.
@911dispatcher Faith is a great thing. Jesus always praised people for their faith. I will never underestimate the importance of faith...but you blew off the love of God which is by far greater and even our faith is to work through this love. Healing is a mystery. The evangelist I cited Smith Wigglesworth had some of the greatest miracles I ever read yet his own daughter who was with him constantly was never healed of her deafness.
@SkeeterN Healing is no mystery. You simply refuse to believe that the love of God has provided healing for all who believe. Todd believes and heals people. Your response is public mockery. You don't have to be smart to know that's wrong.
You depreciate the promises of God because of what you see as a mystery. That's the wrong focus and emphasis. No one has all answers to everything. It's foolish to base unbelief on what you don't understand instead of basing faith on His promises.
@SkeeterN I've heard several preachers say that they still get new things when they go over Scriptures they've meditated on dozens and even hundreds of times. I recommend to you, because of what I've seen, to take those passages where Jesus commended faith, and all the places where individual miracles and healings are brought out and meditate on them and ask God to show you things you've not seen before. You do undervalue faith. Yes, love is greater, but your criticism of Todd isn't love.
and stick ONLY with the Word of God, you'll see that the testimony of the New Testament is that Jesus NEVER refused to heal anyone, NEVER failed to heal anyone, NEVER told anyone that God was "teaching" them something, NEVER told anyone "wait for God's timing" and NUMEROUS times the Scriptures says plainly that He healed them all, your unbelief notwithstanding.
Again, I recommend the Bible, not unbelieving preachers who lie to cover their unbelief.
@911dispatcher I tend to agree with you on this one. My point was in Mark he could not do any miracles and the reason was unbelief. Also when He healed the man at the pool He left many there unhealed. He does want us to have faith but healing is a mystery. Wigglesworth could not understand it himself and said the person who could figure out divine healing could figure out God. Smith also commented he would rather see one person saved over 10,000 people healed.
@SkeeterN Healing is not a mystery. You simply fail to seek God sufficiently when you read something and a question arises. God will answer those questions if you'd trust Him to do so. Some answers require more knowledge and therefore the answers aren't immediate. This is why Hagin often said, "Keep the switch of faith turned on" and why the Scripture says "don't cast away your confidence which has great recompense of reward." I know the answers to the issues you raise. You could too.
@SkeeterN cont... You don't have the answers to those issues. What you did was jump to conclusions in unbelief. We all encounter this. Every sincere Believer has many circumstances and situations that say something equivalent to, "that contradicts... ." The one CONVINCED of what God has revealed presses in and pursues answers because experience has told him that a reward of greater understanding and wisdom lies beyond this obstacle. Instead of seeking, you assumed and mockery is the result.
@911dispatcher - You have to be careful with this and I say it in love. A person had a father who was diagnosed with cancer. He refused treatment even though the doctors told him he had an excellent chance of full recovery. His son begged him to have surgery but he told his own son "get behind me satan". He was believing for healing. .In a few yearsthe cancer spread. He was dying and now begged the doctors to do surgery but they refused saying it was now too late he was terminal. This is serious
@SkeeterN One saying one has faith doesn't mean one does. Either he deceived his own heart or he cast away his confidence. You shouldn't believe everything you see and hear. Unbelief's strength is what we see in the natural. The shield of faith and the transforming of the mind is where our warfare lies. You've dropped the ball here and allowed the devil to steal your confidence in God's promises through what you've seen. We all fail at times. We can repent though instead of walking by sight.
@SkeeterN Hasn't everyone seen this happen? Isn't it the devil's job to make sure, not only that we see such things, but to give us the wrong perspective on them?
I've had people ask me to agree with them in prayer for a thing and I've said, "I can't agree with that, but I can agree with ... ." They brightened up and quickly affirmed my words. Do you understand what happened? They were reaching beyond their faith into what their mind wanted. Yet, their spirit bore witness to my correct
picture of what they could believe. This is operating by the spirit. Unfortunately, your friend's father had no wise reprover (Prov 25:12) who had an ear to the spirit to either help encourage his faith or be honest that his faith simply wasn't where he was claiming it to be. Your failure to properly interpret the situation is common. Why? Because people are too satisfied with the natural. Spiritual hunger is greatly lacking in American churches. (Rev 3:15-22)
@SkeeterN Love is frequently and often given as substitute, subterfuge and excuse for unbelief. That's not what love is. I've already mentioned about five instances where harsh rebukes were given by the most famous men of God in the NT. It's wrong to think that Southern Hospitality is Christian love. God is love but will turn all the wicked into the Lake of Fire. Is that love? Not by most people's standards, but when most people think anything that's not "right" they dismiss it lest God see it.
Everybody has a leg or arm longer than the other.....
seploud 1 week ago
@sirshibboleth remember there will be many who do miracles in the Lord's Name..to whom HE will reply,"DEPART FROM ME I NEVER KNEW U!!" miracles aren't the gauge ..our lifestyle is...
I21GenieLee 1 week ago
Great video of someone with enough guts and faith to get out there and do the things that Jesus has called us to do. I see the Pharisees and the doubters are still around opposing Jesus' supernatural ministry today as well. Can't have one without the other I suppose.
sirshibboleth 2 weeks ago
This is such a lame trick...Todd lives in an alternate reality ..I'm a Christian but I don't want a sign so bad that I check DISCERNMENT at The door .....if God is using you to heal..GO TO CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL
I21GenieLee 3 weeks ago
Presenting this as a miracle from God is nothing short of blasphemy and you will burn in hell for spreading lies. Protestant prayers are not heard by God because only Catholics are Christian. If anyone is interested in learning about true miracles from God, visit my site.
takethetimetoday 1 month ago
@takethetimetoday "Presenting this as a miracle from God is nothing short of blasphemy and you will burn in hell for spreading lies."-Are you a God? Because you judging him...isnt ONLY ONE God...who gived you a right to speak in His Name?...so who will burn now, you egocentric fuck?
EvilMrDark 1 month ago
@takethetimetoday Jesus said "All liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire that burns with brimstone." You should believe that and repent for your blasphemy.
Todd is a Believer in Jesus, not a "Protestant." Your Catholic idolatry is what is blasphemy.
Jesus loves people. All people are sinners. That's why he loves even you, with your Catholic heresies.
Jesus does miracles for anyone who will trust Him. You should meet Him. He's Lord and much more gracious than you.
911dispatcher 1 month ago
Pause at 1:20. Those legs are clearly the same length. And as a point of interest, having one leg an inch shorter than the other is quite rare. Back pain is of course common but different length legs is not usually the reason! Looking at her, age, large breasts, and excess weight are all likely factors.
mimmar3891 1 month ago
@mimmar3891 The video did not give clear video evidence of the leg lengthening, but the woman said he felt her leg grow and that she was healed. There are MANY more videos of miracles on YouTube where the evidence is much clearer, but if you REFUSE to believe the woman's own words, you just refuse to believe. Unbelievers don't get the blessings and miracles "believers" get. You should give that some serious thought.
I see miracles because I believe God's promises.
911dispatcher 1 month ago
@911dispatcher Again, you assume I don't want to believe. Listen, I tried for years and years to find any evidence that this stuff was real because I so desperately wanted to believe it. You can say I don't have enough faith but I knew faith-filled people who KNEW God was going to heal them. There was no doubt in their minds. And guess what -- nothing happened. I believe what I saw over and over in real life more than videos on Youtube that show someone throwing their crutches aside.
mimmar3891 1 month ago
@911dispatcher And I see a charlatan.
This leg trick has been exposed as a sham. If you want to see an interesting documentary search "Miracles for sale” a user named “hopelesslypassive” has the whole thing uploaded.
It exposes some well known “healers” and the corruption in the faith healing industry... as well as how to do tricks like this leg one.
BaneOfAzrael 4 weeks ago
This is a sincere question: Do you have any medical evidence to back up what you say to be true? I've talked to a lot of people who talk about healing by faith and never has anyone produced any evidence. How about even a note or testimony from a doctor? Why does it always have to be something unprovable? If you're serious about sharing your faith, you must know that the average person is not going to take someone's word on something so unbelievable.
mimmar3891 1 month ago
@mimmar3891 For scoffers like you, there is far more evidence than you are willing to take the time to discover. You want to sit on your butt and challenge people to PROVE IT to you.
Do your own homework and quit being so lazy IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE THE EVIDENCE.
There are thousands and thousands of healing and miracles done each year. "If you're serious"? You're a joke. No one is trying to convince you.
911dispatcher 1 month ago
@911dispatcher Excuse me? I am not lazy and I HAVE done my homework. I was a believer for many years and I was convinced that healing was real and someone challenged me to find proof. I was so sure I would find proof everywhere but the more I looked for it, the more it became apparent that no so-called faith healer was ever willing to provide any proof. You think I'm sitting on my butt? You're kidding yourself. What's more, your attitude is anything but loving and Christ-like.
mimmar3891 1 month ago
@911dispatcher If there are thousands and thousands of healings and miracles done each year, why does no one ever go to a doctor with the evidence? Do you really expect anyone to see and immediately believe in a Youtube video with someone pulling on a leg and saying it grew? How hard would it be to get a doctor to confirm someone has cancer, go to a faith healing, then go back to the doctor and have it confirmed so the news media could be informed? "You're a joke?" Lovely Christian words.
mimmar3891 1 month ago
@911dispatcher Why is it that the only videos we ever see have legs so similar in length that it's impossible to see any supposed difference? Why not make a video of someone with twisted limbs from cerebral palsy having them restored to healthy legs with developed muscle? Surely that wouldn't be any harder for god. Todd White seems to have no trouble making a leg "grow out" but he was stumped when he encountered a man with no legs at all. Where are these videos with clear evidence you speak of?
mimmar3891 1 month ago
it's called MyoFacial release.
muffmagnum 1 month ago
Do you honestly think Jesus, assuming he's some spirit or something, when he's really dead and irrelevant in reality, would give half a fuck about some random asshole serving hotdogs? NO, if he was the all loving heavenly creator you people say he is, why is he in America helping back pain, when he could be curing cancer, or stopping a rape or feeding the starving people in third world countries, not riding around in some fraud artist to help rich white conservatives. Thank you.
icycold3347 2 months ago
@icycold3347 It's actually very easy to tell people who really want answers from mocking fools who are pawns of satan.
You picked the right user name.
911dispatcher 1 month ago
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911dispatcher 2 months ago
GOD WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR SHORT LEG!
And at the same time he will let little boys and girls in Somalia die of starvation...
AWESOME, right?
davidthmovies 2 months ago
@davidthmovies Your ignorance of the ways of God is directly proportionate to your desire to know them.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
That was the most unimpressive prayer at all.. Thank you lord, grow her leg, yay, amen. Wow. i dont believe it for a second
BrentBTV 2 months ago
well... that was completely not impressive at all. Todd White is the ultimate charlatan. It's actually blasphemous what he's doing. He's corrupt and he's profiting much money of his psuedo-healing trickery. Instead of moving someone's shoe an inch, I'd like to see Todd White grow an amputee's arm or leg out 2 or 3 feet. unfortunately that will never happen, because Todd White is a deceptive charlatan and has never healed anyone or anything ever.
YoungMommy14 3 months ago 2
@SkeeterN we meet again my friend..same trick different charlatan...Todd is a con artist.. No medical proof...same leg scam..GOD IS NOT GOING TO HEAL EVERYONE..as these guys claim....we Are to expose darkness...keep speaking the Truth n Love
I21GenieLee 4 months ago
@I21GenieLee It's a shame you refuse to believe the Bible. If you understood the Gospel, you'd realize that your remark is exactly parallel to "GOD IS NOT GOING TO SAVE EVERYONE.. as Christians claim..."
If you knew or believed the Bible, you'd understand that redemption was "finished" when Jesus fulfilled the atonement and it's NOT up to God, it's up to "if you believe," but scoffers and unbelievers REFUSE to believe because they refuse to seek God.
watch?v=1o_YuLoB-oI
911dispatcher 2 months ago
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SkeeterN 4 months ago
Just a simple question. Why why why over and over on Youtube is the easily duplicated miracle of leg lengthening performed. It is precisely because it is an easy parlor trick to perform.I will commend you and your 911 friend for your faith. I will give you that. I just also pray you 2 will have wisdom and discernment on these matters.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Take a look at my channel and you'll see the PROPER view of the "discernment ministries," which have no discernment AT ALL.
If you spent about ten times the amount of time in the Bible that you do, and stop feeding at the trough of scoffers and blasphemers, you'd understand why people like Todd and Pete Cabrera and thousands of other BELIEVERS get miracles and YOU DON'T. WE BELIEVE GOD'S WORD and you believe the mockers. Mockers ROB one's faith. U PRETEND
watch?v=1o_YuLoB-oI
911dispatcher 2 months ago
There are some people who will not get healed in this life. That is an absolute fact and it may not be through any fault of their own (Lack of faith). I wish that was not the case but it is. But the wonderful thing is these people have the wonderful hope and expectation of one day having a glorified body like Jesus. On that day they will have whole bodies no matter what their condition is in this life. That is truth. You know you have never seen an arm or leg grow back. You know it. Why lie?
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Healing is a mystery. We know our God who created this universe can do anything. The Lord certainly can grow arms and legs back and I do not know the reason why we do not see this happen. Regardless we trust and keep trusting knowing a day is coming when all believers will have whole and glorified bodies like Jesus. We just keep trusting and knowing in our walk with the Master the best is yet to come! The Cross shows us we have a very caring God and we must trust Him no matter what.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN "Healing is a mystery."
You're a liar. The Scripture says, "Let every fact be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses." You cannot find two or three Scriptures that will say what you said (and unfortunately you don't fear God enough to care about your blasphemy) because the Bible doesn't say that at all. You fabricate lies because you cherish unbelief and not the Bible.
The Scriptures says that "by His stripes we WERE healed." You REFUSE to believe the Bible.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@911dispatcher
A very genuine and real man of God Smith Wigglesworth (healing evangelist) himself said divine healing was a mystery and the person who could figure out divine healing could figure out God. I think I am in pretty good company with Smith on my comment about divine healing being a mystery. Smith did have some amazing miracles happen but his own daughter who went with him always was never healed of her deafness. Was this Smith's lack of faith?
SkeeterN 1 week ago
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@SkeeterN "If you ask anything in My name, I will do it." (Jn 14:14 NASB)
Another Scripture you REFUSE to believe.
I could list thirty more. Right now I'm not inclined. If you feel like provoking me to mock your contempt for God's HOLY WORD, go ahead.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN
"There are some people who will not get healed in this life. That is an absolute fact and it may not be through any fault of their own (Lack of faith)."
There are some people who will not get born again in this life. That is an absolute fact and it may not be through any fault of their own (Lack of faith).
The same ignorance, stupidity and unbelief is responsible for those IDENTICAL statements. If you don't understand that they are IDENTICAL, then you're stupid.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
Always always the leg lengthening scam.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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@SkeeterN You're STILL a liar and unbeliever. I've seen God lengthen legs for almost 40 years. I've watched Him do it dozens of times in many settings. You simply prefer to believe the devil than to believe God. You have that right, but no reward from God.
Internet media is too powerful a means of communication for the devil to NOT spread lies and deception to counter the visibly miraculous. You just prefer to believe God-haters.
Tell me how this one is faked: watch?v=1o_YuLoB-oI
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN That's the second post. You're weren't honest enough to deal with it before and I don't think you have enough honesty to deal with it now. When push comes to shove, you'll serve your pride before you'll humble yourself and acknowledge that God is real in ways your hard unbelieving heart refused to acknowledge.
From such comes the adage: Believe and receive or doubt and do without.
If you don't humble yourself and repent, you'll continue the think stupidly, "It's a mystery."
911dispatcher 2 months ago
The fact that the devil imitates, mocks, deceives and discredits the grace of God manifested in His gracious physical miracles in response to believing faith, or by His own initiative, doesn't invalidate His miracles or the promises of God, which include, "If you ask anything in My name, I will do it." (Jn 14:14 NASB) To deny that God will answer prayer and to declare ALL manifestations of the miraculous "a scam" is to blaspheme God the Holy Spirit and that is the work of the devil or a fool.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut You ever think your man Todd there might be mocking God? He is performing the same leg lengthening scam exactly like the fakers. Why is that? If one leg lenghtner is a scam and the other is the real deal but they perform the miracle the exact same way how does this honor God? Who is truly mocking God? Wouldn't a true man of God avoid like the plague any appearance of trickery and not do the leg lengthening like the fakers do? I prefer the truth not cheap (very cheap) parlor tricks.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You're such a liar and unbeliever. I've seen God lengthen legs for almost 40 years. I've watched Him do it dozens of times in many settings. You simply prefer to believe the devil than to believe God. You have that right, but no reward from God.
Internet media is too powerful a means of communication for the devil to NOT spread lies and deception to counter the visible miraculous. You just prefer to believe God-haters.
Tell me how this one is faked: watch?v=1o_YuLoB-oI&feature=related
BludBaut 4 months ago
@SkeeterN When you see the video of the link I just posted, I KNOW your response. You won't investigate the man or his testimony; you'll STAND WITH GOD-HATERS to deny the power of God and mock with the unbelievers even though to claim it's fake is to say the man who exercised his faith is a liar and testifying falsely about God, and those with him are joining the deceit, yet what he is doing is SOUNDLY SCRIPTURAL. You just love the agreement idolaters. Committed to unbelief, how hard to believe.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@SkeeterN "I prefer the truth not cheap (very cheap) parlor tricks."
The miracles of God are not cheap, but free and you despise them even though you claim to have seen them. What a dunce.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut The leng lengthening routine is a cheap parlor trick only a gullible buffoon would fall for. That would be you and your 911 friend btw - mindless robots following some man who does the leg lengtheing scam...talk about a dunce!
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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@SkeeterN "The leng lengthening routine is a cheap parlor trick only a gullible buffoon would fall for. That would be you and your 911 friend btw - mindless robots following some man who does the leg lengtheing scam."
You're a liar. God has done greater miracles than what you saw here in answer to my faith and prayers. I didn't "fall for" it. I "worked the works" that Jesus did because I BELIEVE THE BIBLE and you don't. You're a "yeah I'm one of them" as long as there's no power.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN Jesus said and it's in EVERY Bible, "All things are possible to him who believes," but you say Jesus is a liar and leg lengthening isn't possible; "it's always a scam." Have you ever prayed in tongues and repeatedly changed your tongue at will as you prayed? (Of course you haven't. Unbelieving Believers don't walk in faith like that!) That's just the same kind of miracle as this is. You don't understand that the miraculous is as easy for a Believer as breathing. Tongues is miraculous.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut Do yourself a favor and look up the leg lengthening scam on Youtube. Funny how your hero here does the same trick and in the same way...but knowwwwww...he is the real deal.You guys are so brainwashed you can't see the obvious in front of your eyes. Keep believing a lie. I will keep believing the truth. No cheap parlor tricks..real healings
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN "Do yourself a favor and 'walk in the counsel of the ungodly and sit in the seat of the scoffer'."
No, the unfaithful and unbelieving do that. That's your territory -- following the words of blasphemers and God-haters. Wise Christians have better sense. They know that seeking out and listening to unbelief is like deliberately sitting in sewage; it's sure to create problems.
Again, you like that; you continue to do it. I'll stick with God's Word and God's kids.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut Let me tell you and your know it all friend 911 something. I saw another fake healer on Youtube declaring some poor kid with spina bifida healed. The kid was the real deal. The healer a phony. Unlike the merciless phonies I have compassion for these poor people. I wept as he tried to walk and kept falling after being declared healed. A film company showed this after the "show" where the audience had only saw him "healed".
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN There are more real miracles that are being performed by zealous Believers who love and appreciate the grace and the manifold goodness of God than you have time in your life to examine. Yet, that doesn't mean you don't have the time to find 50 or a 100 or 200. But you'd rather watch the phonies and join with the scoffers to mock God's kids who are pleasing Him with their faith and doing His works.
It's all in that dusty Bible at your house, but I bet it doesn't block the TV
911dispatcher 2 months ago
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911dispatcher 2 months ago
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@SkeeterN "Do yourself a favor and look up the leg lengthening scam on Youtube."
It's amazing that you can't hear the unbelief that vomits out of your mouth and not recognize it. That shows that it's REALLY IN YOUR HEART.
Did Jesus say, "If you abide in My Word, then you're truly My disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free"? If He said that, then why is it that you don't want me to go to the Bible for information but to YouTube? hmm. UR an Unbeliever
911dispatcher 2 months ago
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@SkeeterN "If you abide in My Word, then you're truly My disciples and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free"?
This is the difference between you and me and Todd and Pete Cabrera. You don't love the Word of God. You love unbelief.
It's that simple. Without faith it is impossible to please God. You don't believe that, you don't understand that, you don't care what God's Word says or means. You prefer your pride and unbelief to the precious Spirit of God.
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BludBaut 4 months ago
@SkeeterN It's clear that you love your pride more than God. You COULD have said, "it would be great if God's kids could really do miracles like that but I just don't believe it. But nooooooo, you've got to extend your unbelief to blaspheming God's men and siding with God-haters.
I would have already said, "you need to get saved," but your understanding is so darkened, you wouldn't have understood what I meant. "Sozo" includes EVERY need of man and was FULLY ACCOMPLISHED at the cross.
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BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut Not everybody gets healed...There is not one case of anyone ever having lost an arm or leg ever growing back has there? Yes or no? No . Thank you. People mock God like your hero Todd by using an old parlor trick on the easily fooled...namely you and your pal 911
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN "Not everybody gets healed"
Your appalling ignorance of the Word of God is duly noted, as your unbelief already has been.
The more you talk, the more you exalt the devil's words.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN I bet you give your dogs more attention than God. God said "have no other gods before me" for a reason -- a reason you don't care to understand and now your pride has committed you to 'stay the course' on your evil stand of unbelief. Pride is a funny thing. You've now committed yourself to stand against God, His men and His miracles, because you don't fear God and obviously don't hear Him. You'd rather align yourself with unbelievers than humble yourself to God and say, "open my eyes."
BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut My eyes have been opened. You have the closed ones. Your prefer the fake over the real. Anyone and I mean anyone can do the parlor trick of lengthening legs. Is that true yes or no? Yes. thank you, It is the easiest fake of them all so you see it over and over and over on Youtube for a reason. People are easily fooled.Some Christians like me do not want the parlor tricks.. We want reality. Jn 14:6 No cheap tricks..
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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@SkeeterN Either you didn't watch the video or you really have no problem with being a liar at all.
BludBaut 4 months ago
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911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN "Your prefer the fake over the real."
The evidence that you have no regard for honesty. I honor the Lord and believe His Word and believe in His works. You're a hearer only and you don't do the works or believe them ... except what? One miracle? You lied about me.
"Anyone and I mean anyone can do the parlor trick of lengthening legs." I don't waste my time on frauds. Frauds have a different spirit and don't love God. You don't know the Spirit and judge by what pagans tell you.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@SkeeterN "You have the closed ones. Your prefer the fake over the real."
Again, you're a liar. You don't see more miracles or healings than I do. If you did, you wouldn't love to run with the scoffers and unbelievers. You'd take a stand for the truth of God's Word. ... but you don't believe God's Word. You pick and choose what you want to believe ... whatever doesn't challenge your conscience, huh?
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN "You ever think your man Todd there might be mocking God?"
What an INCREDIBLY STUPID QUESTION!
You don't know God. You might be born again BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HIM.
One can't be as stupid and unbelieving as you and know God. God would have already corrected you if you knew Him. FAITH ALONE PLEASES GOD and you don't have the first clue about how to operate in faith or what Paul meant when he said, "whatever is NOT OF FAITH IS SIN" Rom14:23b
You have no idea what that means.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN "Why is that? If one leg lenghtner is a scam and the other is the real deal but they perform the miracle the exact same way how does this honor God?"
You are incredibly ignorant, both of the ways of God and the devil's devices. How is it you don't know that the devil is a fraud? How is it you don't know that he's a copycat? How is it you don't know that he's a mocker and it's all to discredit God and keep people in unbelief?
How is it that you don't see that he's got you?
911dispatcher 2 months ago
watch?v=-RQh_2h45CQ&list=PL65C79C9F4AB549DD&index=2
This video shows a recognized and widely respected man of God with almost seventy years of ministry, sixty five years of marriage to one woman with never a hint of scandal, manifesting clearly visible miracles of leg lengthening. This is one example of the miracles which God set in the Church according to 1Cor 12.
God does miracles in response to believing prayer and if this were a scam, this man wouldn't be a part of it. Believe God's Word
BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut I am going to take a chance that maybe you are different than 911. Can't you people get it through your heads I believe in healing. I believe it is real. Why Why Why do you choose to believe a lie? I have had real documented healings in my family. No parlor tricks. Why does Todd (and he may be a good worker for the Lord) I don't know enough about him do this same leg lengthening like the fakers? I just do not like leg lengthening when time after time it is a proven fraud.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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BludBaut 4 months ago
The best way to avoid people getting short leg is to stop brothers f**king their sisters in the deep south and then having freaky babies with one leg longer than the other. Freaks! and for those that aren't the result of incest just put your effing shoes on properly you'll get that inch back straight away
Jaya365 4 months ago
I know of some people who are paralyzed and some horribly crippled. They love the Lord through it all. They have faith one day they will have a glorified body like Jesus and that is precious faith. That is the message of the Cross. The best is yet to come. One day we will have glorified bodies like Jesus.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
My wife had a tumor the size of a grapefruit healed by the Lord and that was verified by the doctor. My son was healed by the Lord of hearing loss and this was verified by doctors. These healings are precious and sacred to me. I am not going to sit back any longer and watch this leg lengthening over and over on Youtube without calling it down for what is. It is an exposed scam.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You're a liar and deceiver; completely dishonest with the visible facts and too proud and self-absorbed to investigate the facts.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@BludBaut 911 get his tag team buddy out LOL. Your a liar..your stupid..your dishonest...your a scoffer..your too proud...if you people were not so pathetic you would be humorous. You don't want to hear of real healings but are gullible enough to watch a proven fraud scam of leg lengthening and get upset when others with an ounce of discernment can see the fakery for what it is.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN I don't lie. I hate lying. All liars will have their part in the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.
You, in this post, lie several times. It's in your heart. You're phony and unbelieving. You'd rather listen to liars than believe the truth of God's Word. Jesus said that nothing is impossible to him who believes, buy God-haters gather performers to stage fakery and you give it the credibility of God's Word and are too blind with unbelief to see you're the devil's fool.
BludBaut 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Discernment? What Scripture is that? Unbelief is your "discernment." The "discernment ministries" all hate the demonstration of the power of God because they're eaten up with unbelief. They ALL put their faith in doctors and themselves instead of in Jesus the LORD of life. You love the world so much you cannot tell the difference between discernment and unbelief. That's to your shame.
BludBaut 4 months ago
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SkeeterN 4 months ago
Always always the leg lengthening scam.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
"@911dispatcher There are people born without arms and legs and other sad things. Please don't be a total idiot and tell some person without arms and legs that it is their fault because of lack of faith they do not grow arms and legs back. You are a know it all who does not know a fraction of what you think you do. Just keep focusing on the miracle of the day on Youtube the leg lengthening scam."
This must be the love you were telling me about.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher Nope just the rebuke you needed
SkeeterN 4 months ago
watch?v=-RQh_2h45CQ&list=PL65C79C9F4AB549DD&index=2
This is Kenneth Hagin. If one pays very close attention to this video, to dismiss it as a scam, they have to accuse every single person on the stage of being a party to fraud. Two of the leg lengthenings are too obvious to be denied except by liars.
So much for "this is a scam." Those willingly deceived by the devil to slander men of God for operating in the miracles the Word calls for are put to shame by this video and many others.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
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911dispatcher 4 months ago
Always always the leg lengthening scam.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You're too proud, too stubborn and too unbelieving for your own good. I've put your user name in my email filter so I won't see your scoffing. Keep lying about God, His Word and His servants if you want to; the devil appreciates it.
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SkeeterN 4 months ago
What I am saying is there is a couple ways to "leg lengthen" simple hip manipulation works nicely as well. I have seen people on Youtube who have contempt for God do this same parlor trick and the same way and the same results. quit with the stupid remarks and have a christian conversation on this issue
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You put leg lengthen in quotes to suggest it's illegitimate. It's not. Most peoples' body parts are not perfectly symmetrical. It seems you've given no consideration whether faith can remedy that. This is one of many points that a greater depth of consideration of God's Word would give you. There is no need of man that Jesus' atonement didn't meet. You haven't given that due consideration. The lack of consideration you give God's Words is the same lack of consideration you give mine.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You should know that contempt for God comes from the heart and not the eyes. You should know better than to be deceived by such transparent nonsense.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Stupid remarks? Which of my remarks is stupid? Think with your conscience engaged before you answer. This seems to be a problem.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher I responded to a remark you made to me "you can't be that stupid" I told you to quit with the stupid remarks so we could have a serious discussion
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN I see. Well, it was a serious and sincere remark. You CAN'T be that stupid. I expect you to look objectively at the facts and deal with them. You're not doing that. You've parroted the pagans and acted like they speak the truth and therefore every single one of your brothers is a fraud. That is stupid and you can't be that stupid. There is something wrong with your thinking. You have a stronghold and you need to cast it down.
My discussion has been serious from the time I first spoke.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher But I could very well use that language on you with all the exposure of the leg lengthening scam as a fraud you cannot be so stupid to fall for it when it is done the same way the scammers do this trick. Or why so many healings in particular of leg lengthening? isn't there many other illness out there to be prayed over instead of constant leg lengthenings?
SkeeterN 4 months ago
I recently had neck surgery. The neurosurgeon said either get the surgery or YOU WILL be paralyzed from the neck down. These are serious issues but to me it was not all or nothing with faith. I prayed for the surgery to go well, I prayed I would heal quickly and used the faith I had specifically that way. I prayed the Lord would guide the surgeons hands. I am doing great today and just am thankful I lived in a time and day where this type surgery was available.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Your last comment is the most significant. You should analyze it and recognize how you attribute impotence to God and not only that, but before this time, no one had any hope. God is and was able to heal you. You've listened to so much contrary to faith, you chose to trust the doctors. As many have said, "If it weren't for doctors many Christians would have died early," but my Bible says He bore my sicknesses and diseases and if He bore them then I don't have to. That's why Todd prays.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Don't mistake my words as condemnation. They are rather an explanation. Your faith is your choice. You chose the doctors and it turned out well. I'm glad. What are you going to do when the doctors say, "we can't help you"? You don't seem well prepared for that.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher I chose faith and the doctors. I am very prepared if the doctors ever pronounce I have a terminal illness...death does not scare me..only one thing scares me and that is eternal separation from God. Healing is a great thing but pales to salvation. A friend of mine at church was pronounced terminal cancer but he asked them to do surgery anyway.. With the surgery and faith he has made a miraculous recovery.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN healing IS salvation. You should have learned that in the 80s. Separating them is the devil's deception and breeds unbelief. The Bible DOESN'T SAY, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be born again." The new birth is only the beginning of salvation and deception in this area shows your very limited revelation on Christ's redemption.
I saw this before I left the page. My request still stands. Your hard heart and your precious unbelief has given me my fill.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
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SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN "I've put your user name in my email filter" You need to remember that.
"I chose faith and the doctors."
From which Scriptures did you get that? Let me help you think about it FOR THE FIRST TIME. There is ONLY one Scripture that you could use for that (Matt 9:12) but there are more that give strong weight that God alone is our healer (it's part of His very name) and He is jealous (Ps 103:3, Ex 15:26, 2 Chr 16:12-13, Mk 5:26), but you're a compromiser and unbeliever.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@SkeeterN You've lied many times with the very dishonest remark that I reject the real and embrace the fake. It's a shame your conscience is so faulty because it should have smitten you to lie so. I love and embrace all that I see and understand that God does.
That's why I HATE it when a man purports to be a Believer and sits in the seat of the scornful and mocks the children of God for exalting His might and power being manifested as a testimony to His power before the unbelievers.
911dispatcher 2 months ago
@911dispatcher I agree. God bless.
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SkeeterN 4 months ago
Plagairsm is different when it comes to preaching the word. I don't care if a message is copied because it is different.. Let's say I hear a great message from a minister and I put some of that in a sermon to me it is no big deal. I personally believe Kenyon would be happy to see the message being spread and it does not matter who gets the credit for it. If people are blessed by it who cares.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
Mockery is the world watching video after video of the amazing leg lengthening miracle.Then they can watch people who are atheists do the same miracle with the same technique.I want reality. I want the truth. The truth is God is still healing today and not just leg lengthening over and over.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You're far too impressed by the mockery of satan's minions. You should make this a matter of serious prayer and ask God to expose its influence in your life. That you would suggest that I REGARD the words of one who simply references a mocker shows you have not appreciation of how this error has poisoned your life. You're regarding unbelief as "truth" and "fact." That's darkness and deception. Jer 48:11 came to mind as I considered your words. You're not fighting the good fight.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN It requires special grace to associate with unbelievers (whether they call themselves Christians or not) and not be strongly influenced by their unbelief. You should know this. You should be able to remember those from whom you had to separate yourself because you didn't want their unbelief to infect you. If you can't remember those situations, then Smith and Kenneth didn't "rub off" on you nearly enough. Remember Smith's words about "leave the newspaper outside" to Lester Sumrall.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You should remember that flowing in the Spirit REQUIRES faith. Millions miss the grace of God because they reject faith. They reject faith because they don't give sufficient attention to the Word of God (which can bring faith) and walk by sight and not by faith. I'm sure you've heard, "Believe and receive or doubt and do without." I don't know why you've chosen the latter (I'd guess it's those with whom you've chosen to associate) but I spoke up because you "shared" your unbelief.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher Wigglesworth himself said in the church it was not more faith needed but more perfect love. I respect your faith and zeal but remember Paul said if he had faith to move mountains and not have love he was nothing. There are people in this life who were born without arms, legs etc...and life has not been fair to them but they have the hope of one day having a glorified body. The best is yet to come. We are to pray for the sick and leave the results with God.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You didn't pay close enough attention to Kenneth Hagin or you would know the place of faith in prayer, the responsibility of the Believer and why people don't get healed. Hagin didn't frequently teach thoroughly on this so you would need to listen to a lot of his teaching in a short period of time to "connect the dots."
Andrew Wommack has spent more time on it and his ministry would help you see better.
The Word would also if you can shake loose of the lies you believe.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN "We are to pray for the sick and leave the results with God."
That's just not right. There is NO faith evidenced in that remark. The gifts of the Spirit, the different ways of healing and the responsibility of the one needing healing can all be factors in healing. Unbelievers typically get healed (or miracles) by the faith of the prayer. Christians have much more responsibility to believe for themselves, yet the manifestations of the Spirit come into play here.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
911 - Just look at rugby161616 comments.
This leg lengthening is taking people away from the true miraculous which I believe you have experienced as well as myself
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN He lied. Careful examination provides NO evidence that Todd EVER pulls anyone's shoes from their heels. It's the work of the devil to deny the supernatural power of God. Leg lengthening demonstrates the ease with which our loving God does miracles. God confirms the Word with signs following. A miracle is worth a thousand sermons. Perhaps if you'd preach the Word instead of preaching mockery, AND believe for miracles, you'd see them too. Your first words that I read were mockery.
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911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher There are a number of ways leg lengthening is done. Pulling of shoes is one, hip manipulation is another but however the technique they always have to be sitting in a chair for the effect. Here is novel idea. Pray for them standing up! I see the world mocking this. I don't mock it I get angered and saddened by it. When people watch on Youtube the same technique of leg lengthening by people who do mock God what do they think when they see Christians doing the exact same techniques?
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN That you would take the time and effort to investigate fraud is really great if you want to be a master of fraud. My experience tells me that if I'm having trouble believing God's Word in an area, running to those opposed to the Scriptures will strengthen my unbelief and devastate my faith. You lack of concern here is telling. The ways of fraud, deceit and lies is endless and your life isn't long enough to learn it all. Jesus said to abide in His Word. Why don't you see the contrast?
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher I live by His word my friend. You know who really is the author of deceit and that is satan the god of this world. We are to be ambassadors for the Messiah. If you would start showing more of the love of God in your posts along with your faith and zeal I believe you could do great things for His kingdom.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Great idea on having them stand up. When are you going to start?
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher LOL unlike Todd I do not go around diagnosing people who don't even know their legs need straightening out just to perform the "miracle". In my walk I have yet for an individual to ask for prayer that their legs be straightened. But if they did I would not have them sit in a chair and pray for them like the charlatans. We can pray that prayer with them standing up but it does lose some of the effect but who is looking for effect when you are praying for real healing
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN You misrepresented Todd. Why? He moves in the word of knowledge, which is not diagnosing. This IS mockery, regardless of your pretense that it isn't.
Just as most people have differing leg lengths, most don't know it and most people don't ask for prayer for miracles. Your meditation on the Word of God could have shown you all these things if you had done it. Ps 1 is still there. It's not too late to start.
You blaspheme your brethren to call them charlatans. That's an offense.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher Google search leg lengthening scam and you will get plenty of hits and these people are charlatans....many of them will tell you they are charlatans and just exposing the fraud
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN I can't believe it. You really are that stupid. Sorry that I refused to believe it. I believe it now.
Let me give it back to you: Google "bible lies" & "bible is full of lies" & "bible contradicts itself" & "islam better than christianity" & "miracles are phony" & "christians lie" "christianity sucks." Want an additional THOUSAND examples?
Go for it. Feed on contempt for God's Word.
Please don't respond to me anymore. You love scoffing and scoffers. Have at it. Get your fill.
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SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Apparently you don't understand that because people do walk by sight, seeing results does help people to believe. Seeing their leg is short and watching it grow (some feel it and some don't) helps them to believe the next time they hear the Spirit inspire them and it helps the people watching also. This is a common miracle and God set miracles in the church. It's an area of great neglect and this is unbelief and sin. That you've chosen to listen to the devil on this is sad.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher 2 Cor 5:7 we walk by faith not by sight. Your not condoning walking by sight are you?
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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That you can't see how wrong that is, is evidence that your spiritual life is hurting. Had you said, "Wait a minute. God is real and does miracles. I've seen and experienced them. While I know nothing about Todd White and whether or not he's operating by the Spirit of God, it's foolish to automatically dismiss miracles," then all I would have said is, "I know something of Todd. He's the real deal and flows in the gifts by faith and the grace of God."
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Leg lengthening is the true miraculous, though sometimes if might be just a healing. We don't need as much knowledge as we need to walk by faith and as Todd says, "Go."
You SHOULD have learned long ago how to spot the work of the enemy. That satan mimics, copies, mocks and deceives is NOT direction from God (or wisdom) that we should stop. Whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed and we should rejoice, not join the devil in mocking.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Did you look at rogerbahakel comment? It has far more credibility to me than the foolishness of the one your reference.
This woman was working on concrete. Look at her age. Do you really think her shoes were so loosely laced that Todd could have deceived EVERYONE with his "slick" deception of moving her shoe from her heel? You think this woman wouldn't have felt it? You can't be that stupid. You've not thought about these things. You CHOSE to go the route of unbelief initially.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Do you REALLY think that when Todd asked her if she felt it and she shook her head "yes," that she meant, "Yeah, I can feel you pulling on my shoe"? Your integrity is terribly lacking in your examination of this video.
If Todd is phony, then this woman is a liar and part of the fraud. But you didn't criticize the entire scene as a fraud; you ONLY criticized Todd. Your lack of objectivity should cause you concern for it shows you've given the devil a place.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
I really don't get 911 why you are not offended by all the leg lengthening "miracles" going on here on Youtube. Our God and you know this is much greater than this. People see this type healing and they are using the same techniques true unbelievers use as a scam. Why is one real and the others a scam? I am offended by it. I have witnessed true miracles like yourself but I have real problems with all the leg lengthening going on. I t makes me sad really.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Because I've seen too many dozens of them with my own eyes, both that God has done through those I know and through me. "God has set in the church... miracles." This is UNBELIEF on your part and if you like Wigglesworth and Hagin, you should know better. I know better.
Even IF some are fake, so what? There are phony Christians with phony testimonies. That's not evidence to reject the real. If you'd investigated Todd, you'd see that he's for real.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher If you want a phenomenal miracle that really will boggle your mind, you should see the video where the man from Florida tells about the church property that had Creosote contamination that had been condemned by the EPA. In a Kenneth Hagin meeting, he was in the Spirit and told a demon to leave and said he saw him go. The government came back out and tested the property and found no contamination. The man who wrote the EPA guidelines called the pastor and asked him if it was true.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN cont.
He told him it was true and that's when the man mentioned that he was the one who wrote the rules. He also told the pastor that he had become a Christian and had heard about this miracle and wanted to confirm it. He also asked if the pastor thought they could do this with the other contaminated areas.
That was from memory of a Hagin torrent. I found the video for you: watch?v=GF2Afy7FKpI
The testimony is early in the video.
If legs bother you, this will make your mind 'tilt'.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher Great video and great testimony!
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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as a young teenage boy and EVERYONE was just like you. But Kenneth didn't want to die and being a new BELIEVER, he started reading his Bible and he found the promises of God and raised himself off a deathbed by his own faith WITH NO HELP from anyone pickled in unbelief. He passed away at 86, though the doctors told his mother that they'd NEVER seen anyone live past 17 in his condition.
God taught him to BELIEVE HIS PROMISES. I recommend that you hear his testimony & teaching.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher This is where you made silly judgments against me without even knowing me. I read every book Kenneth Hagin ever wrote. I went to a revival he had in 2002 about a year before he passed away. I firmly believe though he missed it in areas such as focusing too much on prosperity teaching. If you want to read a book from a really great man of God I would suggest Smith Wigglesworth. Not that it matters that much to me but Hagin did copy Kenyon almost word for word in some of his books.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN God anointed Hagin as a prophet. God does nothing but that He reveals it to His servants the prophets. Perhaps you should consider that it was you who missed it. One way is obvious.
Your accusation of Hagin is like your accusation against Todd -- why do you like to accuse men of God of evil, publicly? If you learned anything from Hagin, how did you miss the fact that he didn't speak evil of people, especially behind their backs, and why don't you understand how God values this?
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher Hagin copied E.W. Kenyon. I saw that years before it ever came out. It was not a big deal to me. My thoughts were always as long as people were being blessed by it. Having read all of Kenyon's and Hagins books I saw word for word copying by Hagin. Again no big deal but it is an absolute fact he copied. Hagin also copied John Mcmillan's Authority of the Believer and just changed the title to the Believers Authority. Speaking the truth is not speaking evil of anyone.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Kenneth preached for years before he wrote books. Did you ever consider that his quoting Kenyon for years because he was convinced it was the truth of the Spirit would then make it perfectly normal for him to write out from memory exactly what he preached? I started listening to Hagin on cassette in the early 70s. When I first saw him in person I was very disappointed. Why? Because when he started a sentence, I knew what the rest of the sentence was going to be. I'd already heard it.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher I started reading Hagin in the 80's and reading Kenyon at the same time. At first I was shocked by the word for word copying but it doesn't bother me. It is a good message and people are blessed by it so it is not an issue with me.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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In my mind, I thought that if he was led of the Spirit, he wouldn't be preaching from memory and it was obvious he was preaching from memory. Should you or I think he wrote his books any other way? What if you found out that he didn't even write his books, but they were transcribed from his messages? Is he still a plagiarist? I've never hear anyone address this? We quote the Bible and we're not plagiarists. If we quote it a great deal and from the NASB, we could get sued.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
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Do you understand my point? Do you think that if I have been reading the NASB for years and quote it when I reference the Word and write a book and quote the Bible frequently that I should be sued for quoting God's Word? Obviously you do and many people think it would be my responsibility to give addresses and footnotes referencing the copyrighted work, but Christians whose primary interest is hearing God wouldn't care. Their focus is on hearing the Spirit.
We know your focus.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher I remember listening to a Hagin tape once on healing. he was quoting line from line out of Kenyon's Jesus the Healer ...you could even hear him turn the pages as he read...I don't care but the truth is the truth. And it was not only Kenyon but John McMillan as well and in later editions he pretty much finally acknowledged the real source of his book the Believer's Authority was McMillan.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
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Is that an insult? Not particularly, but it's quite telling. There's a depth to spiritual hearing, just like so many other things. Your spiritual hearing is shallow. Rather than receiving deeply in your heart the Word of God, your attention was divided and your focus easily fell on plagiarism. I could have done the same thing. Multitasking is not a weakness but the more deeply we "attend to (the) Word" (Prov 4:20), the more steadfastly it is established in our hearts.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN It wasn't a silly judgment. It was an assumption but our words didn't suggest that you believe anything Kenneth Hagin teaches. He teaches 'be it unto you according to your faith'. You think praying for legs is wrong. Do you know that MOST people have uneven legs?
I never heard any inappropriate emphasis by Kenneth on prosperity. The teaching of his protégés is not as good. He called them to a meeting to correct them and it's my understanding that they did a little better till he died.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher And I always gave him credit for that. I just wish they would have listened to him!
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@911dispatcher Faith is a great thing. Jesus always praised people for their faith. I will never underestimate the importance of faith...but you blew off the love of God which is by far greater and even our faith is to work through this love. Healing is a mystery. The evangelist I cited Smith Wigglesworth had some of the greatest miracles I ever read yet his own daughter who was with him constantly was never healed of her deafness.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Healing is no mystery. You simply refuse to believe that the love of God has provided healing for all who believe. Todd believes and heals people. Your response is public mockery. You don't have to be smart to know that's wrong.
You depreciate the promises of God because of what you see as a mystery. That's the wrong focus and emphasis. No one has all answers to everything. It's foolish to base unbelief on what you don't understand instead of basing faith on His promises.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN I've heard several preachers say that they still get new things when they go over Scriptures they've meditated on dozens and even hundreds of times. I recommend to you, because of what I've seen, to take those passages where Jesus commended faith, and all the places where individual miracles and healings are brought out and meditate on them and ask God to show you things you've not seen before. You do undervalue faith. Yes, love is greater, but your criticism of Todd isn't love.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
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and stick ONLY with the Word of God, you'll see that the testimony of the New Testament is that Jesus NEVER refused to heal anyone, NEVER failed to heal anyone, NEVER told anyone that God was "teaching" them something, NEVER told anyone "wait for God's timing" and NUMEROUS times the Scriptures says plainly that He healed them all, your unbelief notwithstanding.
Again, I recommend the Bible, not unbelieving preachers who lie to cover their unbelief.
Kenneth Hagin was dying
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher I tend to agree with you on this one. My point was in Mark he could not do any miracles and the reason was unbelief. Also when He healed the man at the pool He left many there unhealed. He does want us to have faith but healing is a mystery. Wigglesworth could not understand it himself and said the person who could figure out divine healing could figure out God. Smith also commented he would rather see one person saved over 10,000 people healed.
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Healing is not a mystery. You simply fail to seek God sufficiently when you read something and a question arises. God will answer those questions if you'd trust Him to do so. Some answers require more knowledge and therefore the answers aren't immediate. This is why Hagin often said, "Keep the switch of faith turned on" and why the Scripture says "don't cast away your confidence which has great recompense of reward." I know the answers to the issues you raise. You could too.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN cont... You don't have the answers to those issues. What you did was jump to conclusions in unbelief. We all encounter this. Every sincere Believer has many circumstances and situations that say something equivalent to, "that contradicts... ." The one CONVINCED of what God has revealed presses in and pursues answers because experience has told him that a reward of greater understanding and wisdom lies beyond this obstacle. Instead of seeking, you assumed and mockery is the result.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@911dispatcher - You have to be careful with this and I say it in love. A person had a father who was diagnosed with cancer. He refused treatment even though the doctors told him he had an excellent chance of full recovery. His son begged him to have surgery but he told his own son "get behind me satan". He was believing for healing. .In a few yearsthe cancer spread. He was dying and now begged the doctors to do surgery but they refused saying it was now too late he was terminal. This is serious
SkeeterN 4 months ago
@SkeeterN One saying one has faith doesn't mean one does. Either he deceived his own heart or he cast away his confidence. You shouldn't believe everything you see and hear. Unbelief's strength is what we see in the natural. The shield of faith and the transforming of the mind is where our warfare lies. You've dropped the ball here and allowed the devil to steal your confidence in God's promises through what you've seen. We all fail at times. We can repent though instead of walking by sight.
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Hasn't everyone seen this happen? Isn't it the devil's job to make sure, not only that we see such things, but to give us the wrong perspective on them?
I've had people ask me to agree with them in prayer for a thing and I've said, "I can't agree with that, but I can agree with ... ." They brightened up and quickly affirmed my words. Do you understand what happened? They were reaching beyond their faith into what their mind wanted. Yet, their spirit bore witness to my correct
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911dispatcher 4 months ago
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picture of what they could believe. This is operating by the spirit. Unfortunately, your friend's father had no wise reprover (Prov 25:12) who had an ear to the spirit to either help encourage his faith or be honest that his faith simply wasn't where he was claiming it to be. Your failure to properly interpret the situation is common. Why? Because people are too satisfied with the natural. Spiritual hunger is greatly lacking in American churches. (Rev 3:15-22)
911dispatcher 4 months ago
@SkeeterN Love is frequently and often given as substitute, subterfuge and excuse for unbelief. That's not what love is. I've already mentioned about five instances where harsh rebukes were given by the most famous men of God in the NT. It's wrong to think that Southern Hospitality is Christian love. God is love but will turn all the wicked into the Lake of Fire. Is that love? Not by most people's standards, but when most people think anything that's not "right" they dismiss it lest God see it.
911dispatcher 4 months ago