Xiao Qiao - Dynasty Warriors 5 Xtreme Legends - Chaos Mode

[SaleGeekVa]

She needs the Twin Fans for DW7: Empires!

[DW7XLNightmareGuide]

@SaleGeekVa i would agree, one fan's not as fun. I don't really want a DW7 empires really, i guess its because i didn't have the DW6 one, but the DW5 one isn't really that fun, i would prefer a DW8 with some team-play fighting and a revamped online system along with player vs player

[davidchen128]

@DW7XLNightmareGuide agreement. One fan is too boring. The attacking speed is sooooo slow. Slower than it supposed to be. Slower than spear's attacking speed.

[DW7XLNightmareGuide]

@davidchen128 Yea slow weapons are boring, i never play as guan yu in DW7XL. I hate his weapon so much. I can actually get done with 3 of the throwing knives attack strings before i get done with 1 of his

[davidchen128]

@DW7XLNightmareGuide Crescent blade has slow attacking speed like Iron Fan and it has awkward reach and range like Podao.

[DW7XLNightmareGuide]

@davidchen128 Yeah comparing attacking speeds of Guan Yu, the Qiaos, XDun from DW3-5 and DW7 really makes me questions KOEI's reasoning for things

[DW7XLNightmareGuide]

so what would her tier be? She seems to have near perfect defense with no limitations in crowd sizes. Even with her inconsistencies, she doesn't seem to have a problem with generics as her musou is overkill when it comes to those, relatively below average vs any officer stronger. She's definetely a fast filler. Against multi she has offensive but not defensive issues. Maybe bottom of the high-mid tier category? definitely below her older sister

[dw5chaosfan]

@DW7XLNightmareGuide I would say mid-high tier.

[love4musicable]

How did you do that electric charge thing at 4:48?

[love4musicable]

How did you unlock muso mode?

[OnTheToiletBeyotch]

How come Cao Cao is pronounced "cow-cow" and Sun Quan "Soon Kwan" in this game and in DW7 it's pronounced "Sao Sao" and "Soon Chwan"?

[MecTecher]

@OnTheToiletBeyotch yeah Koei never got the english dubs correct until DW6.

[LuXun1548]

Hey do you have the item 'way of musou'? It's really good you know.

[ZarsasCostumes]

zhou yu is soo cute!

(not as cute as lu xun, tho ^_^)

[LuXun1548]

@ZarsasCostumes Yeah!

[DagonJugg]

this man cow cow is a really evil man!

lol what voice acting

[LuXun1548]

I just wanna ask does anyone play Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires? I do.

[ZarsasCostumes]

@LuXun1548 i do. and my leader is lu xun <3

[LuXun1548]

@ZarsasCostumes Are they bodyguards in DW5 Empires like tey have in DW5 XL?

[ZarsasCostumes]

@LuXun1548 are there bodyguards?

um....i dont remember haha i dont think so

[LuXun1548]

@ZarsasCostumes Yeah. I don't know what's freaking wrong with my xbox 360 cause it goes red at three quadrants and it freezes.

[PrincessMizzMeg]

lol well of course it is fag, it don't look like it cause it's a thing called powering up guys and 4th weapons you see this guy made xiao qiao seriously powerful which made it look easy, understand now asshole?

[susii001]

thats not chaos mode :/

[DragonDC26]

nevermind it must have been that it was different cause they sound really different

[DragonDC26]

i know this isn't on ps2 cause i don't remember this kind of stuff

[ericssonpr]

lol u owned zhen ji

[Desmond21228]

Theres definetly 2 things i hated about chibi too many blockades on the boats and no bases for known reasons but if im in red health i need to take out a supply base :[

[girinoboynet]

come back later and try again.

[nigandmad]

COW COW?!? wth...its not even pronounced properly

[xRyokuxluvsxUx]

i never understood why they NEVER pronounced it properly until dynasty FAIL 6

[LuXun1548]

@nigandmad Yeah the right pronouncation is 'Tso 'Tso

[KieuxMerry]

is that even chaos? it looks like easy 4 u.

[Nariuu]

it isn't chaos mode, it is easy mode or the attack of xiao qiao is incredible O.O

[kingrichie50]

that cuz he/she is a pro lol

[mrsmithaka1]

dam you really are good

[Saestrol]

Her jump charge is one of the more useful ones I've seen. It looks like it could hit more then once but in big crouds that's not a problem.

Some people thought it was unfair that the Qiaos got heavy fourth weapons, but holy crap they are fine just like that.

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

ya I remember the Light Weapon kraze got so bad that it almost reached common knowledge. The early guides (which still exist) sometimes suggest Light weapons and usually completely block out Heavy weapons. When......such obvious things like how JC's don't get affected by attacking speed exist.

Certainly, we have people who just prefer Light weapons for personal reasons, which is perfectly fine, but to include Light weapon promotion in guides for performance is an error.

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

I know I love Light weapons for leisure gameplay, even though I rarely do that since maximization takes up all the time. I even dream of making a collection of videos showing Light weapons and Dragon Arms for all characters.

[uagniza]

@DW5chaosmodeguide how did you unlock musou mode because i didn't unlock mines

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

wtf.....did you even read my post?

The point presented in the post involved C4 scattering techniques which is necessary for isolating officers. I don't see how you would reply by repeating that JC doesn't need speed, because obviously it doesnt

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

Life might be an alternative, but that kind of durability means almost nothing without a source of life recovery. In the end it means she can take like....3 or 4 more hits, which might mean she can mess up one extra time or sth like that.

Most importantly, after scattering crowds with C4 against a playable officer, she has more time to fit in preceding normal attacks before her True Musou. This makes it far easier to kill playables in one Musou, or a quicker combo.

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

Watch the video and think.

Her Musou cannot function in large crowds. The method then is to scatter crowds with her C4. After scattering with C4, it is essential to get to officers quickly enough to whatever is necessary. Linking this with characters like Fu Xi, who can also scatter crowds with C4 so he can attempt to freeze officers with C3, he can't do it very well because he can't walk fast enough. Now this isn't to say that Xiao Qiao needs Speed, it's just that Speed is useful.

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

......it's so simple

1) JC is the primary musou filling method. JC's aren't affected by weapon weights.

2) Her heavy attacking speed is easily fast enough to be manageable

3) She doesn't flinch to normal attacks with a Heavy weapon which is very important for a short reach character

4) Musou is unaffected by weapon weight, so attacking speed is constant. There are only gains here.

5) Musou Rage is unaffected by weapon weight for attacking speed. There are only gains here

[theinsanething]

Running at only Fill20 kinda gives her a bit of a time gap between her musous if crowds are sparce. Is there viability in switching to Fill40 and Dropping True Way of Musou?

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

not at all.

you'd make her musou filling a bit faster but her offense half as fast. Isnt this obvious?

[theinsanething]

Fill20 to Fill40 is effectivly double the filling rate?

I also figured that most of her damage comes off of the contact rather than the residual fire damage, you're saying that True Musou affects the contact damage? I thought it was the same either way.

My mistake.

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

Fill20 to Fill40 is double the filling bonus, but not the filling rate. A Fill40 increase would mean a difference of one extra JC, or something like that on average. But the taking out the True Way of Musou would give her a two Musou offense as opposed to one Musou offense. The tradeoff is obviously not worth it here.

Well....at first you said True Way of Musou, which is direct physical damage increase. If you're asking about replacing the Way of Musou...that may be a possibility.

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

Fire depletion is very important, but like you said, not as important as direct damage since the characters are so buffed up at this point. Taking off the Way of Musou....hmm....it might still be possible to kill generics in one Musou, but there will be much less room for error. If this is what you meant, then I think it's worth a try. If this works, then it would be a better alternative.

[theinsanething]

Yeah, that's the general jist of it.

I just couldn't recall which Way of Musou did what.

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

Taking out the Way of Musou would deny her the ability to kill playable officers, but the chance of being able to do this is slim anyway because of crowd sizes. Maximizing her Fill and killing her potential to kill playable officers in one True Musou, I think would be a good move.

[numberman287]

her musou attack takes alots of damage when her weapon weight is heavy.

its not that good when its Medium right?

[cleedrulez]

right. the vids' points r to show maximization, if shez safe enough to go with a heavy and it offers a faster offense - quite obvious due to the damage increase - then she is going with heavy instead of med or light

[numberman287]

hmmm i see!

one bad thing in her " its hard to control her musou".

[cleedrulez]

holy feces nice musou controls! wanglang and zhuling kills r pure ownage! u can even used ur whores as "wall" oops i meant horse. she wouldnt be a char i use cuz the difficulty of that musou control, but it not at all mean shez bad in the tier. u've used her with so much consistency and authority here lol, that counter attack and blocking the musou part also defines maximization =P

wow u r making nasty videos these days, completely owning the game, along with ur old self haha

[DW5chaosmodeguide]

lol thanks dude

ya i told you this was a good run

[HatakskeHitaru]

...meh i'll have cleed say sofa xD

[cleedrulez]

i cant cuz u took it first poster D=