GREAT ANARCHIST AND ANTI AUTHORITARIAN QUOTES (Part 1)

[obamasucks247]

War isn't the answer it is the question and the answer Is yes

[propiedadomuerte]

Fight for Anarchy!

Agorist free market anarchist Greetings!

[vaguelyhumanoid]

You make a video with anti-authoritarian quotes, yet you're a cultural conservative? The fuck?

[djsandra1]

im sick and tired of authority! it is the cause of all of the wars and troubles of our world! thumbs up if you agree

[TylerMcManus1]

"The things you own,will end up ownin' you."

Tyler Durden

[TylerMcManus1]

"1984 was NOT supposed to be an instruction manual."

XD By the way,the song's really cool,what is it?

[ProbablyHuman]

@TylerMcManus1 Pigface - Nutopia

[TylerMcManus1]

@ProbablyHuman Thanks,man.Took a look at the article on'em on wikipedia and seem a band worth lookin' into. :-)

[maxstirner242]

but thiss ong does kick ass

[Meiege]

Anarchy only works in societies with a strong VERY strong moral base that everyone either believes in or abides by. No society is like that, humans are too easily corruptible. Government is essential to order, when things aren't regulated you get things like rape, murder, child abuse and molestation... these more. That's what gangs are doing, they say fuck the system and what are they doing to better themselves or our society? I agree the system is fucked to hell, but anarchy...not the way.

[LordFeeblelongdick]

Anarchist are nothing but a bunch of faggots... they suck hard cock and are a bunch of pussies... me and my friends beat two of these faggots to a pulp. we didn't killed them because we didn't want to go to jail fro killing a couple of useless scumbags. die you stupid anrachist sheeple.. i piss on your fuckin mothers...LMAO.

[IndividualAutonomy]

@LordFeeblelongdick

lol

[forbinmockingbird88]

@LordFeeblelongdick so could you actually make a coherent argument against anarchy in its various forms, or are you only capable of name calling? you sound like an idiot, and judging by your screen name you're an idiot that's insecure about a certain part of his anatomy.

[LordFeeblelongdick]

@forbinmockingbird88... there's actually no need for that.. anarchy is a joke and anarchists are nothing more than sheep. anarchy is so absurd and ilogical that it only makes poeple laugh at your stupidity.. you are just like a bunch of pussies crying : "ooh we want freedom" ," oh we want no laws , no religion, no order" - and here comes the STUPIDITY part- "we want the GOVERNMENT to impose ANARCHY and regulate it" ..(LMAO!!!.)you contradict your selves and you assholes are a joke.. seriously..

[neocivis]

@LordFeeblelongdick Intelligence is clearly not a common fact of humanity. You have proven the point.

[compositesoul]

@LordFeeblelongdick First; I don't believe any body who makes a statement like "we didn't killed them because we didn't want to go to jail fro killing a couple of ect, ect"...

Second; if going to jail is your reason for not killing them then perhaps you should be advocating the matters of personal affairs and the affairs of the state to be separate.

Oh wait that would be anarchy, silly me.

[EVIL1357]

@LordFeeblelongdick Have fun being a puppet you closed minded prick. You don't know what you are talking about. We don't stand for chaos, there can be order without government. We are told the country is run "By the People", not entirely. We may have elections, we may have "rights" which have been distorted over time; but at the bottom line the poloticians we chose are the puppet masters. They tell us what to say, what to do, what to think, what is good and evil. We are the seers of truth.

[EVIL1357]

@LordFeeblelongdick We have our beliefs. To each his own. But when "his own" starts to take over everyone else's then it has gone too far. Anarchy=Chaos=AWESOME is a stereotype that has obscured others vision towards us. It is a stereotype that has been used by the one's who are the puppets, puppet masters, and the blind followers in order to keep their own dominion in control. The two that you "Beat to a pulp" if they lost hope they are not true Anarchists.

[EVIL1357]

@LordFeeblelongdick The true followers of anything take theirs beliefs to the grave. On top of that, you got lucky by choosing anarchists. The only reason charges of Assault and Battery weren't filed were clearly because they were true to the cause.

I know my "Rights" as does any US based Anarchist. But we KNOW what is truly right and wrong; as opposed to what has been shoved down our thoats for centuries. You found two of many true advocates. And one more who is typing this to you.

[EVIL1357]

@LordFeeblelongdick In short, you have a closed mind. And it would be wise to open it, you might learn for once in your life. Oh, and while I'm teaching you I might as well give you some other intelligence. Your insults are overused, your existence is based on pure hate for others that disagree with you, and no one cares that you beat up two people. I made 4 replys sure, but in hopes that you begin to look at the world in more than one way. Do not bother replying, it will be deleted.

[DefourOwnsYa]

@LordFeeblelongdick Nerd.

[datafork]

that first one sounds more like communism.

[MoonLightFacade]

I was just curious to know what the song was on this?

[Tharapita]

I like how both collectivist and individualist quotes and symbols are used. I would like to see more unity amongst Anarchists of all kinds. We share a contempt for authority, why argue over economics? I believe all forms of anarchism can co-exist.

[nocturnezero]

@Tharapita I think the question of the motives for decentralization or removal of the state - a market society or a communitarian society - are FUNDAMENTAL to Anarchist unity. The two cannot possibly coexist unless we localize the marketeers to this side of the country and the communitarians to this side, which is just silly segregation.

Cooperatives can't survive in a market and property ownership wouldn't be allowed in a collective, so how can you reconcile the two?

[robertwc82]

i completely agree with the anarchistphilosophy, but how would anarchy solve the problem of nuclear weapons? how would an anarchist society responsably deal with the storage of nukes and the threat of nuclear strike?

i mean, i dont know if you can trust the state either to be responsible, perhaps the threat would be much the same. has anyone ever considered this problem, medieval anarchist societies did not have this problem

[IndividualAutonomy]

@robertwc82

Yes it is one of the most asked questions. There are different ideas about what would be the best procedure, from paying a group to keep hold of them in facilities and other ideas to.  Feel free to come to stickam for more discussion. Send me a pm and I can send you the room link.

[robertwc82]

@IndividualAutonomy i know of many examples of anarchist societies that were functional and practical (though not nessacarily just slaves ect) but none of them had the problem of nucear arms. the danger that would most concern is not people using them to gain power and control, its the irrational psycho who wants only to kill, doing the will of the voices in his head, though people using them for power would still be a problem but at least you can threaten those people

[nocturnezero]

@robertwc82 In my opinion, the society should go through voluntary discussion and decision making processes about how to dispose of nuclear arms and should work with other countries and international organizations like the UN on complete abandonment of nuclear arms in other countries.

[robertwc82]

@nocturnezero disposal isnt a solution, all you need is someone to build a new one, we are stuck with them. like guns. we cant uninvent them we need to learn to deal with them, though i cant think of how. interesting topic to ponder though

[mechanicaltruck]

@robertwc82 In an anarchist society, there would be no politicians to "declare war" with the use of nuclear arms in the first place.

Millions of innocent civilians wouldn't have been MURDERED in Japan if there were no governments to engage in a world war of their own creation!

Governments are the biggest "problem" for humanity!

[robertwc82]

@mechanicaltruck you must be naive f human psychology. it is not the governemtn who is the problem when it comes to nukes. governments can be threatened and reasoned with. their goal is to gain wealth and power, and do not want to use nukes if they will get nuked back. i am talking about the crazy delusional psycho who's goal is t kill himself and take down as many people with him as he can, simply because he has a malfunctioning brain.

how do you stop such a maniac?

[mechanicaltruck]

@robertwc82 You have more threat from a nuclear WW3 than you have with this imaginary "maniac"....

People like that are too far and few in between to be considered by anyone who isn't paranoid...

[robertwc82]

@mechanicaltruck yeah thats true, because of the fact governments exist. but i was hypothetially talking about if there was no government, then there would be less chance of a WW3 than a looney. they might be few and far between, but with a population of 6 billion plus, equals millions of crazy people.

t might not be a highly likely scenario, but it is still a problem that cant be ignored.

its not paranoia, its called PRECAUTION

[HailRasec]

Anarchism is strictly anti-capitalistic; Rothbard should not be added in this video.

[IndividualAutonomy]

@HailRasec

That is dependent on your definition of anarchism, how you define capitalism, and what you perceive as freedom. There is debates about this within the non capitalist branches of anarchism. The first definition in the description is what I oppose.

[HailRasec]

@IndividualAutonomy Capital Gains, interest, usury, plutonomy, thats capitalism in its purest form.

[IndividualAutonomy]

Plutonomy is not a characteristic of free market Austrian economics and interest and usury are the same concept but they are part of free market Austrian schools of economics anarchism. A non interest coop. bank can form on the free market if others wish to lend money at no interest.

[HailRasec]

@IndividualAutonomy Prove to me that capitalism does not lead to massive concentrations of wealth in a few hands, thus leading to plutonomy where major decisions are made by the wealthy few.

The austrian school anarchism claims to derive from Individualist anarchism, but this is absolutely false. Individual anarchists were always opposed to capital gains, interest, rent, etc.

Besides, anarchism differs immensely from 'Anarco' capitalism in economics, politics, and philosophy.

[IndividualAutonomy]

@HailRasec Firstly hierarchy by itself is not what I oppose and I do not favor economic equalitarianism that violates the property norms without consent. However, I still don't accept the classic Marxist interpretation of capitalism leading to a few wealthy people. He was talking about state capitalism anyway.

[IndividualAutonomy]

What you are doing is appealing to tradition when new advancements have been made in economics. Their fault as well as Adam's Smith is that they have the outdated labor theory of value. Like I said before anarchism is a broad term and it just depends on your definition. My idea of it is more board and I would define freedom lacking or severely lacking that first definition in the description.

[IndividualAutonomy]

This video is not about proving anything but if you want come to come to stickam it can be discussed. I am not a fan of YouTube comment debate sections usually anymore. I will not use this simple comment forum as a debating forum so that is all I will say here. If you want to dicuss this PM me and I will give you the link to the stickam room.

[Heller86]

@IndividualAutonomy Labour theory is far from dead, in fact it has improved and adapted. You should read Kevin Carson's book "Studies in Mutualist Political Economy" where he formulates a modified version of the labour theory of value that is informed by modern advancements (especially the Austrian school). He tackles all the known refutations of LT and shows why they're wrong. Anyhow the key statement is: In products of elastic supply equilibrium price is determined by cost of production.

[IndividualAutonomy]

@Heller86

If the cost of production and the price is greater than what consumer are willing to pay to maximize their utility then the price will have to be lowered, losses cut, improvements made, and/or the firm going out of business. Customers pay for utility not because of labor or labor cost someone put in. 

[Heller86]

@IndividualAutonomy If the cost of production (therefore equilibrium price) is greater than what consumers are willing to pay. it means that demand will be lower than supply so that's not equilibrium price anymore. The price will have to be lowered, losses cut, improvements made, the firm going out of business OR REDUCING OUTPUT thus adjusting supply to demand. "Costumers pay for utility not [...] labor cost [...]" - true but that's just demand, not equilibrium price. You didn't refute LTV

[IndividualAutonomy]

@Heller86

Yes and equilibrium price is not reached by labor theory of value either. Utility comes into supply for suppliers as well where the worker or business owner plans, produces, and allocates resources in turn for money in order to satisfy preferences to achieve utility later. This issue is actually being discussed on stickam. I'll send you the link to the room in a pm where we can get to the bottom of the disagreement.

[that1kid12345]

amazing video just like the others only thing i didn't like is soviet picture one lol but that's just me i understand that some anarchists believe in the hole communism thing i don't seem to see the good in it but idk that mite be with how i look at how communism has been in the past and label it as that

[thefreedomartist]

Excellent info, thanks for posting it! Best Regards, tfa

[IndividualAutonomy]

Thanks and don't forget to see Part 2 and my favorite (Part 3)

[EisaiEnasApoTusPolus]

i am an anarchist for more than 3 years now but I'm starting to think that anarchy is another way to reproduce violence (even if the ideology itself is against violence)

but honestly...what would you do if someone gives you a gun and say that if u use only one bullet to kill a particular person then evil will be gone fore ever...

Speaking for myself...i would think a lot before i take my decision....

anyway PEACE :)

[RationalDischarge]

Powerful stuff!

I've been a very minarchistic libertarian for two years now, but as I read more and more dead-on quotations from brilliant thinkers like Tucker, Spooner, Goldman, Proudhon, and even Bakunin & Kropotkin, the more I begin to think of myself as an Anarchist without adjectives.

[xmattycorex]

i have lots i would like to share with you then

[ZYKLONBKILLSHITLER]

Proudhon was a fucking psycho

[subjer0]

I was a libertarian but I believe I'm becoming an anarchist.

The system is so corrupt, I don't believe saying believe in the free market and shouting end the fed will do much to fix it.

You want real protest? You want real change?Do this, stop complying with the system. Stop paying them with your income taxes. Stop feeding the monster which is the FED and the federal government. To destroy the system STOP COMPLYING WITH IT.

[wowsa0]

If government vanished overnight then the result would not be anarchy, but chaos. Anarchy, if it is ever achieved, will not come through overnight change, but through slow gradual progress. Even if you believe that the ideal world would contain no Government, there must be cases where government ownership is preferable to private ownership, even if the best world would have no ownership at all. Pay your taxes, give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. I would continue but character count is gone.

[xmattycorex]

well all revolutions are chaotic right? i mean the french and russian and american revolution were chaotic times. and after the dust settles and the riots and vandalism is over...people come together to finally think what society they can have now that is just and moral.

[wowsa0]

Well in two out of three of those examples the revolution gave way to dictatorship, so I don't really think that point stands up to scrutiny at all.

[xmattycorex]

same path i've been going down as i always say...

"government has nothing to give, and everything to take."

[sgpnc]

"The republic will survive until Congress discovers that it can bribe the people with their own money" Alexis de Tocqueville.

I'm not really an anarchist. And I'm as much a libertarian as were Madison, Adams, Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, et al. I'm probably more of an anti-Federalist. I think they would all have been, if we could transport them to 2009.

[ytertyu]

@sgpnc "The republic will survive until Congress discovers that it can bribe the people with their own money" Alexis de Tocqueville.

shouldn't be "can NOT bribe" ?

[sgpnc]

@ytertyu When Tocqueville wrote, we had a Republic. The Progressives started the change to a totalitarian state with the passage of the 16th amendment and the establishment of the Federal Reserve in the horrible year, 1913. Since then, we've been moving away from a Republic and toward a totalitarian state. We're almost there, the main motive power being entitlments (Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare, etc.) which are "bribing the people with their own money"

[ytertyu]

@sgpnc the moment I read your comment immediately thought you must be an american ..damn , you yankees are so in love with lecturing people ,assuming others knows nada ..get over with it you dumb asses..your country invaded and looted by koshers ,and you white fools still think you're the smartest in the room ..how do I know you're white boy in his 20s ?? you smell so fresh , and no kosher would bother explain himself as you do ...peace :)

[sgpnc]

@ytertyu Hello European, Islamofascist anti-Semite. Your prior comment was so ignorant that I assumed you might respond positively to a little education. But now you've revealed yourself to a moron and therefore uneducable. You remind me of H.L. Mencken's comment about trying to teach a pig to dance. Don't bother, since you will only waste your time and irritate the pig. Enjoy your bacon, Mohammed.

[ytertyu]

@sgpnc hahaha ...who the fuck are you to educate people you little prick .. gonna do that with your double digit IQ ?? I fuck mohammed's ass as koshers fuck yours , you soft white sissy boy ..get the fuck out of anarchism vids , you buttfucked soft faggg

[ytertyu]

@sgpnc this video about anarchism..in order to anarchism come , republic should go ..if congress discovers can deceive people and keep going on, then how the fucking republic will die ??? make no-sense to me ...anarchism will come the day fucking politicians CAN NOT deceive people anymore , coz people waken up ..so , the sentence should be "..congress discovers that it CAN NOT bribe people..." not anymore , no more

[Nederlandac]

Long live anarchy.

[allisforall]

No Kropotkin?! For part two you should condense the long quote in my profile.

[IndividualAutonomy]

I have two quotes for him in Part 3.

[chatsworthsharp420]

great video! shared@!

[ALittleBitPregnant]

Thanks for the great video!

[VeritasEtLibertas82]

Nice collection of quotes.

[elitemathlete]

Thomas Jefferson was an active state and federal legislater, wrote the constitution and was president, and you tools are trying to trick us into thinking he's part of your demented little cult?

[IndividualAutonomy]

Actually Jefferson was away when the Constitution was being written though he did have some influences. He also wrote about the problems concerning a binding Constitution in a letter to Madison. Jefferson was not an anarchist(which political anarchism really came into existence after his death in the mid 1800s), but he was more radical than you may think.

[IndividualAutonomy]

Not everyone in this video (though most) are anarchists just like in the Great Atheist quotes video there are Deists and other non Atheists in the video whose quotes have an atheistic like tone. I doubt you have a very good understanding of political anarchist arguments and proposals so I would suggest if you were interested to look into them more. If you are not interested in knowing what you are arguing against then I won't bother with you.

[KagarBeardtooth]

Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence; James Madison wrote the Constitution.

[McDicker96]

don't respond it'll only encourage him

[Billabong102000]

Ehhh... Respond... Everyone can use a little encouragement ;P Also encourage those that would respond ^_^

[elitemathlete]

The trouble with anarchy is it exists entirely in the realm of fantasy.

Reality and anarchy mix like oil and water.

[KagarBeardtooth]

Nice opinions. Maybe you should stick to math.

[vonPeterhof]

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Barry Goldwater.

"Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure." - Robert LeFevre.

[j0hnwi11iams]

If I want the freedom to breathe clean air, I have to restrict someone else's freedom to pollute it. Freedom is a value judgment, and some freedoms are mutually exclusive. Certain forms of individual liberty are absolutely essential, others not so. Many people walk around with beliefs that imprison their minds.

[IndividualAutonomy]

Many self proclaimed anarchists believe in freedom within the context of non aggression. Obliviously pollution to a certain extent could be considered aggression. Also, there are solutions that have been put out concerning the environment. Additionally, the anarchist branch known as eco anarchism is probably a group that is fixated on the environment more than other environmental groups (one of their quotes is in the video).

[donotswallow]

Of course you do, but you also have to look at the best way of controlling pollution. Look up free-market environmentalism. There's a great interview with Walter Block on the subject here on youtube "Free market environmentalism by Walter Block Part 1" Which is basically a simplified version of his book "Economics and the Environment: A Reconciliation"

[j0hnwi11iams]

Another free market fundamentalist that thinks that the solution is to privatize everything. As if the earth will be saved by an army of lawyers.

[donotswallow]

Another government stooge that thinks that the solution to everything is government red tape. Ad hominems are fun!

I know critical thinking is hard, but you should try it sometime.

[j0hnwi11iams]

Another exercise in extremist hyperbole. If you are not for the free market then you are for applying government red tape to everything. You hope to put me on the defense? I've dealt with far more of you than you will ever know. Look up THIRD WAY.

[donotswallow]

You do realize the irony in calling my post hyperbole, when it was only mocking yours, right?

Why are you having me look up progressive think tanks again?

[j0hnwi11iams]

Third way is not a think tank. It is a political movement that sees a useful role for government where the free market clearly fails. It likes opening game capitalism but does not like end game capitalism.

[donotswallow]

find me one area that the free market "clearly fails."

one.

[j0hnwi11iams]

Health Insurance.

[donotswallow]

LOL Free market health insurance? WHERE?

[j0hnwi11iams]

Inform me how any sort of imperfection in the free market due to government intrusion has caused health insurance to deny or drop coverage for people who actually get sick. It is so typical for purists to throw red herrings.

[donotswallow]

Uh, saying American healthcare isn't free market when discussing the free market isn't a red herring.

Anyway, google "How American Health Care Killed My Father by David Goldhill" It's a fantastic article that actually spells out in excruciating detail many of the distortions inherent in our current system - written by a democrat nonetheless.

[j0hnwi11iams]

People still have a great deal of choice when it comes to medical services, and it will stay that way. The problem is that people are generally uneducated and that is also likely to stay that way. It is making the argument for more government sponsored consumer protection, if you ask me.

[donotswallow]

Huh? What is? Did you read the article? If you did, you'd realize the government "protection[s]" are how we got into this mess in the first place.

[787Bisurdaddy]

The problem with US health care is not that there is no choice. US health care is a mixture of government subsidies and private institutions.

The problem is that this is not a free market solution. The government subsidies provide incentive for more people to use health care, which drives the cost up (not to mention the money wasted on government taking tax money and funneling it into those subsidies while taking its cut along the way).

[chop98]

Government sponsored anything ends up meaning more money from you and myself transferred to someone who is usually too lazy to get off their asses and do something. Why should they learn, work, and be (matter of opinion) successful when you and I will end up feeding them for their entire lives? Once the government ends up with enough people under "protection", we'll become a Communist state in the open. Only the strong survive.

[chainzdown2dadik]

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson

[chainzdown2dadik]

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law', because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -Thomas Jefferson

[Baneofpain]

I don't want to be "this guy",but what was the first song?

[IndividualAutonomy]

I don't know what it is called lol. I just copied The Great Atheistic Quotes music that I posted this as a response to. ha

[TornIntoEnthrallment]

I think that's Mark Twain.

[Stargazer5781]

"The principle that the majority have a right to rule the minority, practically resolves all government into a mere contest between two bodies of men, as to which of them shall be masters, and which of them slaves; a contest, that -- however bloody -- can, in the nature of things, never be finally closed, so long as man refuses to be a slave."

-Good ol' Lysander Spooner

[mihaiguy]

"Reason is the servant neither of tradition nor consensus." -Nathaniel Branden

[abortabraham]

The classic.

[nonantianarchist]

"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for something he doesn't want because you think it would be good for him."

Robert Heinlein, through professor Bernardo de la Paz, from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

[blackacidlizzard]

Woo! It's back!