English history shows if it cost money England gets rid it, this situation now because of the stupid Westminster politicians its beginning to frighten these clowns who dreamed up this nonsense about the as Scots as subsidy junkies ,The referendum calls their bluff. all of a sudden the Tories , labour. lib dems are all die hard Unionist, one would think of all that lovely lolly we are saving them they would be grateful but No! they are angry a sure sign they are not normal!
Here pal you need to get your facts right. If you balance out the money that's went back and forth between Scotland and England Scotland has put 240Billion GBP's more into the UK coffers than it's had back since 1980.
@j0rdyb0y62 - Well perhaps you will give a shit when you can no longer call yourself British as there will be no Britain which will be the case in 2014. When we have to pay masses of additional tax to fund the huge expense appreciated with dividing the nation. Including billions to move our nuclear deterrent from Scotland. The Union Jack will also cease to exist as this includes Scotland. We will need a new constitution and a new way to govern England as its own nation.
@j0rdyb0y62 - Indeed, we'll lose all Scots Army, Navy and Air Force regiments and facilities making it difficult to defend the Falklands for some time as all our subs and many navy bases are currently in Scotland and the English military would have to be rethought from the ground up. We'd also lose the majority of North Sea oil which brings billions into the economy as it's in Scots waters. We may even need a boarder/passport control. Yep it's a big deal.
@WillShakespeare2007 I am sure the SNP government will allow you (if you choose) to retain your subs at the Scottish bases until you have bases available in England the Scots in military can stay or change to the Scottish military as they choose or as England allows as for the oil money it isn't going to last long but think of the profit you will make buy ending the Barnett Formula, passport control then that `San English idea,we have no plans for machine gun nests,minefields,fences,ditches
your knowledge of " whits actualy happnin " is correct but misleading scotland is a nation colonised by Wankers so we drink buckfast and a lot of vodka and lager to escape from it we
are in no fit state to rule a country (Yet ! ) you are pretty clued up for an american but scotland , as much as i would love to see us say bye bye england the reality from this is non existiant and with continue to be under the backward ways of the english while they empose their unwanted culture on us , whilist they pump our oilrigs Dry and extort our hotels clubs pubs airports and such peace out thanks for making the video.
This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
Scottish independence would be brilliant for England. The Scottish kept the Labour Party in power and the Labour Party have quite explicitly stated that they wanted to destoy England and reduce the working English people to peasants through multiculturalism, Islam, and flooding with people from the Third World. With Scotland no longer able to influence who governs England the Labour Party will be destroyed, and something can be done about multiculturalism.
More of the same pish about England subsidising Scotland!!!....Do some research, SCOTLAND SUBSIDISES ENGLAND, Scotland's economy generates 11-13% of the UK wealth, we are 'given' as a budget 8-9% of this or less, and westminster plan to cut this budget even more. Can you now work out who needs who and see the real reason for Westminster fighting to keep Scotland in the UK ?!?
I'm so angry. I am from Wales. I understand the difficulties and patriotism of the Scots. I feel it too. But if you brake up my United Kingdom that i love so dearly, right now in the 21st century when centuries of work have been put in to making us united, I will only feel shame for Scotland. Shame for people that would rather divide this land than unite it as one. As one united island that stands alone against the world. Shame Scotland. Total Shame.
This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
@SonofDurgesuth Its Scottish oil cos England and Scotland signed a treaty in the 60ties.Spliting the sea in the CONTINENTAL SHELF ACT JURISDICTION ORDER.England spunked all there lot away on there side.It falls under our law,and is back up bye the full weight of international law.Scotland is still waiting for the money from the Falklands finds.And have not saw a penny off it so far.Funny union this is,when we are meant to be equall partners in it.Roll on the big divorce that will be happening.
@SonofDurgesuth They won't. England need us. The fact that the Prime Minister is trying to control the referendum. The fact that George Osbourne is trying to ban us using Stirling. This just sounds like a desperate attempt to stop us leaving.
It's not that they care about Scotland being part of the Union. It's that we are worth something to them. If we were a poor burden to them. They would let us go. Have David Cameron. That slimey, sneaky prick.
@DJSamMackinnon Answer me this question....how much better off would Scotland be if it were independant?....Ive got no quarrel with the Scots leaving the union....because it would be better for England...Scotland is the dustbin of the UK and its time it was emptied
@DJSamMackinnon Scotland has the only declining population in the Uk
Westminster wants the Scottish people to have referendum as soon as possible...its the SNP that wants to wait until 2014...why is this? I will take back my remark on Scotland being a dustbin..not true. England knows that we are all stronger united than divided. I think SNP are playing a canny game of concessions more than independence
@SonofDurgesuth Are you scared? Why don't you help the dust bin leave? Who cares what you think about Alex salmond!!! Are you saving for your childrens Higher education? If not you better start!!! Great guy cameron is would'nt you say?
I look forward to the day when there is an Englishnationalist movement which recognises that the UK is finished let us part as civilised neighbours sharing an island but different.
@RichardElden stop the oil thing, its aboot ran oot, it wasn't an english thing, chips off shoulders young men, every race has issues with another. I live in gtermany and get on fine with the locals, me fayther was bloody throwin handgrenades at them but we move on, do the same yous guys especially the Tim - prody issue for the sake of peace you have all been conned, orange bands for gods sake !!! wots that aaar aboot
i listen to your argument, but you are stuck on the border, northern englishmen have the same issues re tories as does evry scotsman, look at the political map its gets redder the more north you go.
Yes as scots you have more of an identity, but think wider than the border it aint just a scottish thing
@johnsovx We do mix and inter breed with each other.This is just Scots arguing there case for Independence.And it looks like they are winning.If somebody is going to lie,and what is happening here.And cant back up a word in what they are saying.They are always going to be challenged.The case for Independence is strong.I would H8 for another generation of young people,to grew up with the mist chances,that mines lost out on.As we were forced the Tories against our will.Who did not care about us.
@RichardElden Shetland Island Council has stated that they want law making powers regarding oil production, oil funds, and regulations regarding oil moved from Westminster to the Scottish Government and that it should be the Scottish Government who legislates for the oil industry in Shetland.
@RichardElden So the SNP is a racist Anglophobic party? I guess that´ll explain why 12% of SNP MSPs sitting in the Scottish Parliament are English, will it?
8% of Scotland´s population were born in England, so 12% of MSPs being English is significantly higher than would otherwise be expected. Indeed, some of the key Scottish government members are English, e.g. Cabinet Secretary for Education, Mike Russell.
Why would it change its name to .se for Southern England? Why not just .en for English? Or, considering Wales and Northern Ireland will still be there, just keep it as .uk for the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
@RichardElden Prove it the evidence suggests otherwise.Scots do not fear the English,who told you that?Look at our history,we have fought and resisted all attempts to take us over.And Edward Hammer of the Scots,has to be the most miss named King in the whole of History.You would think with that hard core name,that he had won his war against Scotland.When in reality he could never beat the Kingdom of Scotland.And died looking at the land that refused to bow to his barbarism,funny that is to me.
@legandrydirk so if your all Bravehearts why do you sponge off England at every opportunity? How many quangoes are set up explicitly to give scrounger money to the Scots and Welsh? More than you care to admit.
@MightyWarriorSaxon We get a block grant from UK Gov.After we sent them our oil money.Scotland gets ripped off big time.England does not subsidise us,how could they?How can a nation of 5.5 million.Cost anything to a nation that out numbers it 10 to one?And we cant invest our money.If its going down to England,and make it grow in banking hedge funds.And Barnet does not take into account the oil wealth.If it did it would show that Scotland subsidises England like the GERS report does,thank you.
@legandrydirk we are still brought an sold for english gold till we stop taking it saor abla i wud b good if the guy who made this video new what he was talking about tho
@legandrydirk i think its coz thay dont know our history so thay have no idear what we are many of us have forgoten too sadly in europe theres no finer laoch then us an thats gota be worth sumthing if it came to it id fight an im in the south of england right now i have no hate for sarssonach. saor alba
@kingpharaohtsar I canny see it coming to that.The USA has oil interests in the north sea.And England has never stood up to them alone.And never will as they know,that they would get done over seriosly.So they need to give our Independence the respect that its due,when it happens.And it will happen one day.Lets hope that we are both alive to see it.SAOR ALBA GU BRATH!
@legandrydirk its comin an aye hopfully 100% peacefully england needs to die aloan evein the fue english close frends i have see this as true an we did well on our own b4 england evein realy existed i guess thats why thay dont say england forever tlack of true pride but then wear wud english pride come from
@kingpharaohtsar The Geordies and the Scouse are proud.They seem to be allright,and they even H8 those smug Bastards down south.As they saw there Cities die through Thatcher just like we did.We saw it sooner than they did though.Everbody is the same at the end of the day.When we bleed we all bleed red.Its just politics that piss us off.The south elect these fools,and then moan about them being Scottish.As if its more Scots than them in charge there,and its not and never has been ever and wont be
@legandrydirk i allways thought geordies were just lost scots lol the south is a very soft place its horrorble it doznt feel like anywear in these isle posh people every wear an most of them pritty ignorent to the evils of england thay dont learn about such things in school tho thay do when thay meet me my hole family are celt maybe im abit over the top i dont know
@kingpharaohtsar You cant blame them for there brain washing.If anything you should feel sorry for them.Life is to short wasting your hate on them.Its just a cosmic throw of the dice,that they happened to be born on that side off the border.And not on our side off thee border.
@legandrydirk aye its the states folt realy but i think the internet helps people learn i mean most people think of brave heart it seems iv a very english frend who said if scot..land seceded whatever will thay live on lol well he doznt think that any more hes allright tho he hates maggie an now knows a freedom fighter from a terrorist we will win historys on our sidewe have been who we are since we got here. slainte
@kingpharaohtsar See that Cameron prick,is trying to dictate to the SNP when the referendum will be.Even though its going against,the will off the Scottish electerite that voted the SNP in on trust and merit.He does not understand the Scottish people,and that will be his down fall.Loads of people who might not have backed the SNP before.Will have there minds made up bye that.And vote a big fuck you,to him for trying to tell a elected Gov what to do.Maggie even tried to deal with the IRA.
@legandrydirk makes me think i sud vote lol camrons abit od scottish an acts like that i dont know why maggie will b dead soon IRA were have thay been i guess its all changed now but in 21 days il have a drink for the fallen i just hope i dont get pissed off by sum sarronach tit il keep peace in mind im sure u ever been to the south of england
@legandrydirk aye every lil helps but u know change is unstopable i mean what do we get out of this anymore other then a lack of freedom an think what it will kick off lol saor alba saor gaelic domhan
@kingpharaohtsar True the union is a sham.Even if it was started bye our Royalty.What use have those toffee nosed rat bags ever had?When did they ever do anything worth while for anybody but them self?Without getting pats on the back for it.And a ton of good PR.to make people think that they really care for there subjects.Cant wait to get the vote,to ditch that load off self servers out on there face.And all there hangers on,that go with them.Following them round wiping there Royal arse holes.
@legandrydirk thay made a chioce sadly the wrong 1 for us an now there all nearly gone but the people remain an we allways will big change coming cant wait sudnt b to long judging things evein from down here thay know its coming cymru an eire next
@kingpharaohtsar Cant see the Welsh following our lead just yet.The support there for Independence is not as strong.Labour is still the main party in Wales.Scotland is different though,as we can support our self if we get it.And it will not just be from the oil and gas.As a lot of people,seem to think.Large part of the main wealth will come from that though.And our economy can be built up from the bottom to the top from it.And that is better than waiting till its dry to get nothing for our selfs
@legandrydirk aye that area is ironicly probily the land used to get here when we frist settled these isles it made as now it will save us bit of a poetic spin but u get the idear i dont know if u know about our genetic maker
@kingpharaohtsar I do the Basques settled Scotland from Spain.The English got settled bye Belguims and other European tribes.In the times off early man.And after that the islands,got invaded bye Anglo Saxons,and Vikings.Even the French that came,originated from a Viking.They took Ireland and the Irish Gails took parts of Scotland.And breed out the Picts through marridge.The Welsh are meant to be the original inhabitents of the UK,as they fled the Romans and hid behind mount Snowdonia
@legandrydirk ptritty comprehensive stuff there nice to see useuly people dont have a clue of are history when asked wear we are from i useualy just go with the orkney island settlers from scandinavia 10,000yrs ago due to the dna being basicly the same as today i allways find this telling of our peoples blood not that im racist far from it just inpressed by nature an genetics but are history is whats realy shaped us u may b interested in the cheeder man if u google it or sumthing
@legandrydirk i wonder how much dna the normans lift behind in the south of england coz the culture seem to have been strong with the whole language thing at the time that william fella changed alot b4 england was evein england lol i wonder if thay remember
@kingpharaohtsar They were up in Scotland to.They took over most off the island.They took England bye force though.In Scotland we more or less invited them here.And got them marrying our nobility.
@legandrydirk i allways feel alil off about the way leaders mix due to the idear that we may end up ruled by non native forces witch as u can guess is not very indipendent i dont mind change but i realy feel it sud b the peoples chioce else freedom mite b lost an i dont wona see our people as slaves again maybe evein going back to a brehon like law that mite b to far for most tho
Yeah, Scotland is really getting a bad deal in this UK thing, huh? what with their free universities and prescriptions and their own parliament and a hugely disproportiante grant from the UK gov. Absolute travesty this.
@JHBGaming We paid for that our self.Scotland has subsidised the rest off the UK for over 40 years.And the prove off what I am saying comes from WESTMINSTER,in the McCRONE report.A secret phile that was burried for over 30 years.In it is said that,Scotland could have been as rich as Switzerland in 74,if it has been Indy.It said that in the 80ties,London got 3 billion a year in oil revenue from Scotland.And at the time the SNP,only thought they were being ripped off 800 million a year.So shut up.
"what with their free universities and prescriptions "
You don't understand why they're free, though, do you?
It's because it's "their own parliament " and not Whitehall making the spending priorities and allocating the resources. That's all, that's the difference. The amount hasn't changed.
(Actually, you get a bigger share: we're 8.5% of UK population, we get about 9.3% of UK GDP back, although our per-head GDP contribution is 10% (WITHOUT oil.)
@MightyWarriorSaxon Give Wales its £300,000,000 per annum back and equal time and say in the British parliament and you can moan about your supposed quangos.
@legandrydirk, yep, just like a little hitler, he took on too much, When England wasn't at war with another country, it was only when it was at war with itself.
An agressive, devisive, interfering warmongering country which should have learned by now but hasn't.
never mind, the debt we are ALL now in will blunt their aggression for a little while.
@chancergordy They should know there place in the world.If only they could get over there ego.When we are out the union,they will still happily play USA,s bitch.Playing the worlds police gets them all hard.And trying 2 force there culture down other nations throats.As if God gave them the right to be the judge.It is funny that they only want 2 play police,in the nations that have the oil.The 2 of them turn a blind eye 2 places like Sedan,that are poor.And lots of other nations just like them to.
@RichardElden The SNP is not racist,never has been never will.The party was not dragged through a court of law,to get ethnics to be allowed to join the party like the BNP was.SNP has English members of the party.One is in one of our top jobs,running the country.The party has never been anti English.In fact it was a English woman,who was a founder member,of one of the parties that the SNP came out of the embers off.When two parties merged to offer Independence,like she believed in.
@RichardElden And your German and Viking and Roman and French in origin.So all the English people with that blood,are going to get sent home to are they?After hundreds of years living there?Your are not even logical,in the tripe you talk about.You inhabit some kind of warped fantasy world.
@RichardElden The union of crowns was 1603.And the migration to Ireland happened in a 90 period from 1607 1697.So it was the King of England and Scotland that sent them there.So your talking crap again.And get this they are Irish now.And have been for over 300 years.Glad that I have cleared that up for you.
@RichardElden All the gas is in English waters?Really you want to read a marine map.England sucked there side dry,over 15 year ago.He was James the first,of Britain.And that happened after the union of crowns.So it was done bye a British King.And that means that you are talking garbage.I would say that creating the NHS.And bringing peace in N Ireland.And talking the yanks into helping in Kosovo,was pretty good as well.Still will never vote for them,type in Labour 24.And see the real Labour scum.
@RichardElden The loyalists are mainly born in Ulster.And Ulster is not in Scotland.Scots got sent there hundred of years ago bye the British King.You are as much clueless about history,as you are about politics.Us Scots will decide our own destiny.And there is nothing that the likes of you,can do about that reality.And England is also 3 2 leave the union at any time.Even the English do not believe that they are paying for us.They know that oil and gas,is propping up the deficit of England.
@RichardElden He never told us that there was W.O.M.D in Iraq.And lied about a three min warning.Norway was also in the so called arc of prosperity.He actually did see the world bank crisis coming.He and the SNP,had called for the banks to be regulated for over 20 years.And Westminster would not listen to him.He called for putting up a penny tax in the 90ties,that would have helped.And Scotland is on coarse to meet the clean energy targets we set.Westminster cant reject it,if Scots vote in fav.
@RichardElden Have never heard of them.Want to tell me,were your getting your info from?What is the name of these UN laws.Give me the name of the name of the legislation.I am still waiting on it.You cant just come out with that crap.And not back it up,with the proper information.About were you have read this.If you are to be taken serious and not just be scene,as the bitter anti Scottish angry ten a penny,unionist hate filled troll.With the 1000 fake troll accounts.English nationalism LOL LOL
@RichardElden The GERS report says otherwise,that Scotland subsidises England.You are a bull shit merchant.This is why you can not back up any off these mad claims.Or tell me the name,of any of these so called EU laws.You say are out there.The reason for that is that they do not exist.
@RichardElden The fanny that started all this Shetland Independence pish.He is so popular that he has three followers on his page.Scotland also generates power from waves,and has coal gasification clean power.I think you will find your telling lies.Scotland is a rich nation,and does not need to be tied to failing England.Were the GDP rate there,has stopped growing.Our GDP rate is still growing.Your still not proving anything,just lying through your rotting teeth.Your consumed bye my nation
@RichardElden Cameron has not arranged anything.Stop talking shite to me.You are a utter fantasy merchant.Who has said they believe you in here?Hill is a laughing stock up there.We know that he is working for the unionists trying to stir it up.In typical English fashion,he is not a real islander.And his support,all 13 off them are ex English oil workers.He even took two tourists with him.To try and make his numbers look stronger when he made his childish declaration,the Shetlands are Scottish.
@RichardElden Who are you to say that?Have you got a noble prize in economics like Joseph Stiglits has?The cleverest man in that field.And he says that Scotland can reach full fiscal autonomy with out England.After working on Scott and Hewletts finding who have PGD,s.You are just a sad pathetic troll.Who cant back up a single thing he says.Still not looked a those hidden Westminster philes,on Scots Indy yet?3 under the freedom of information act?U need 2 cling 2 us,cos we are the powerhouse.
@RichardElden 900 000 voted SNP out off a nation of 5.5 million.Who are not all at a voting age.It was a white wash,it was so bad.Every unionist leader stood down after it.Even they know that the jigs up.Your not worth talking to any more.This is not a debate,its just you being hateful and nasty,against people that you do not know.The Highlands voted SNP as well,in rural areas and the Cities.I love the teutars,and they love there nights out in Glasgow.As it is still very gaelic like Ayrshire is.
@RichardElden Ever wondered why drink,is cheaper in poorer areas?And drugs are easy to get hold off?Its to stop any radical political though process.Its a easy way,to give somebody a other problem,to take up there every day off life.If they just think about there next fix,or there next drink.They will not notice,that they are being explioted bye the ruling classes and the Govs.If there minds were clear.They would be in a better place,to challenge the status quo.U H8 SNP know this,and change it.
@RichardElden And plenty of folk believe he was not guilty.Who have nothing to do with the SNP.The yanks should stop shooting down Iranian air liners,in Iranian air space.And not give the captain of the ship that done it a promotion.We made the parliament happen.Our free will made it happen.People thinking for them self freely,is what you cant stand.Our health problems are down to cheap drink.So we stop thinking,like in USA black areas.SNP put the price of drinks up.Starting from next year
@RichardElden Westminster realised the bomber,the yanks know this.Prince Andrew hand a hand in it to.This is why Obama never got a invite to the Royal wedding.As he would have questions to answer.It was all up on wikileaks.Brown gave him philes,with loop holes in our legal system.Even the Libyans are not stupid enough.To do a oil deal,with a Gov that does not even own its own oil.And the USA knows this as well.Even members of his alleged victims,think he was a stooge of the CIA.RESEARCH IT now.
@RichardElden Prove that we are racist or that USA is against the SNP.Coming from someone from the nation that gave us Oswald Moseley,tht is so funny.Go and read the poll,that says Scots are pro migration,us and the Londoners.Were the only places,were we were in favour off it.Hardly racist is it,typical your reduce it to petty insults.As you know its only a matter off time.Britain is on its last legs.Its dying and with it your indentity will go with it.You cant even answer simple questions can U
@RichardElden The USA will not allow that.And the EU nations will not allow that to.When they trade with Scotland.And have money invested in Scotland,with there companies.Keep on dreaming RUDEYDUDY
@RichardElden When Scotland gains Independence they cant stop it.And it does not matter to the yanks.They get the same set rate of cash,as they are getting right now for drilling it.You over estimate your own power.And under estimate the hand that Scotland has.Britain never put up much of a fight at the time,when it was found.If they had we might have got a better deal.And UK never attacked Norway for there oil.What makes you think you would attack Scotland for ours?Or anybody else?
@RichardElden The Vikings took them off Scotland first.They were always part of our Kingdom.As the saga,s tell you.We had to fight them,as they tried to take over our nation.They have never been Independent in there whole history.We might as well break the whole of Britain up to then.And give all the regions there Independence.And Cameron is not doing any such thing.Its not even lawful.As they have voted SNP.As they are showing there self as Scots,and not for the first time.Read it and weep.
@RichardElden The Shetland islands have always been part of Scotland.The only other time that it was not.Is when Norway invaded them bye force.So you want to reward nations,for being tyrants?While we are at it.Scotland should have Berwick and the lake districts back then from England?There is viking sages in Norway.It tells of when the islands were invaded.And there is no uch Independence movement on the island.Only the SNP one,as they voted for them.English ex rig workers are stirring it up.
are you fucking series-the only time they will allows us independence,is when OUR north sea oil dries up-its is rich you say the injustices visited on the english ppl because of scotland-do you know what england has done to my country-braveheart was maybe a bit factually incorrect but the main points are true,also scotland sends more money south than london sends to us-SCOTLAND SUSIDISES the uk,a study done a few years ago said if scotland were to split it would be the 3rd richest contry inworld
@RichardElden They are Irish there not Scots.Its not 400 years ago.They will not accept or want that.And Scots do not want,or will accept that.And they went there as Brits.It was after the union of crowns
@RichardElden It trades with the world,not all the money stays in London.Portillo himself said on his show,that the East End of London,was the poorest area of the Country.We know this already,and it gets more subsidies than any other area.And that is why the Olympic games has went there.To re generate the place,as its a run down dive.The 2nd financial hub is Glasgow.We will get on banking from there,if we need to.If its in our interests,when we are a Independent nation.And we can thrive up here.
@RichardElden Laid it on with the pre verbial towel?Fuck off its trowall.He never mentioned the oil.And its actually Scotland that gives between 12 and 15 billion a year to England in money.Or about East London being the most subsidised region of the UK.And he does not sound English.Laying it on with a towel,is not a English saying.
@RichardElden What good would that have done?Apart from having a force there to occupy it,that was needed for fighting?And there would have been resistance.It would not just have been the Germans bombing Britain.The Irish put there lights out.When Churchill threatened if they never,that he would do it for them.
@RichardElden Ah,a new question to circumvent the last.Because he´d already been to Downing Street earlier in the year&had seen the nice wallpaper and realised it wasn´t an Englishman he was dealing with, but actually a "fellow Celt" Welsh speaking Welshman?But I can´t answer that really,even my grandparents weren´t alive then.I have to rely on documents&books like those of Norman Davies, a fellow of the British Academy and Royal Historical Society&a University of London & a Oxford Professor.
@RichardElden Except the history books I have, and the wikipedia and Irish web sources say he met Lloyd George 4 times inJuly 1921? "A Truce was subsequently declared, to date from noon on July 11th. An Irish delegation led by Eamon de Valera accompanied by "Important others(my abbreviation, lots of names)". Eamon de Valera and David Lloyd George met four times at 10 Downing Street between 14 and 21 July. While in London de Valera also met Sir James Craig on 15 and 18 July.
Mistake? To quote Norman Davies in Vanished Kingdoms,"3 days after the truce,Éamon de Valera went to Downing Street to sound out Lloyd George&a priceless scene ensued.De Valera was used to thinking of Ireland´s oppressors as"English".He had not countered on his British opponent being both a Celt&native Welsh speaker.The"Welsh wizard"played along with him."So what is the Gaelic name for your state?"."Saorstát".I see replied Lloyd George,"I didn´t hear the Gaelic word for republic in your speech."
@RichardElden Regarding Northern Ireland, is your statement quoted as a threat or as a free gift like BOGOF (Buy One Get One Free) or as a positive outlook of future mutual respect and development?
@RichardElden And lloyd George really confused Éamon De Valera when De Valera had to proclaim the freedom of Ireland in broken Irish (Gaelic) to Lloyd George in Downing Street. Mr Lloyd responded in his native tongue, Welsh, "You want a republic? What is a republic? We Celts in these isles have never had a Republic."
@RichardElden: There is no island of Britain. The island that I, and I imagine you, were born on was GREAT Britain. I live in the Sovereign State of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It was, historically, unchallenged to interchange "British" and "English", no matter what the state of union [between the UK and an already independent nation!]. (4 nations, E&W and 2 nations, Great Britain, Great Britain and Ireland, UK and Eire)
@RichardElden I clealy said "David Cameron is still my Prime minister" the point still stands. I dont want to be British i know its hard for you to grasp but i really dont. I want scotland governed in scotland i asume you scottish why dont you?
Do you realise how much of an idiot you look substituting the word "government" with the word "raj"...? This is the most UN-educated video I have ever seen.
Soooooooo... Apparently £11M is equivalent to $20B...kinda hard to take the rest of the video seriously. Never mind the fact that said money (11M/28B??? its actually about £30B) is simply Scotland's share of the taxes raised throughout the whole country (minus Billions of pounds of oil, wind and tidal power money). Does this guy expect people to believe this is anything other than anti-Scottish propaganda. P.S. The "reactions" bar should have a "Bullshit" option.
NEWS JUST IN!!! If Scotland becomes Independent we will be the 6th richest country in the world while England will be 16th! If that isn't a good enough reason to vote yes to Independence... I don't know what is! Come on everyone! Lets leave WASTEMONSTER behind us and MOVE FORWARD to a HEALTHIER, WEALTHIER, HAPPIER, STRONGER SCOTLAND! xx
@RichardElden I think he will, considering that England takes more money from Scotland, in the form of natural resources, than it actually gives (net). Also, it's up to you if you think he's racist, but calling him repulsive and bald is the kind of language I'd expect from... well, racists.
@RichardElden You're not proud of being British then. In that case, fuck off and stop talking about it. We should all be discussing how to be successful again, so we can build a fine military again and maintain our great power status. Our military isn't even that bad. In fact it's very good. We have the new air craft carriers coming in 2020 for example. Why don't you start coming up with ideas instead of moaning?
@RichardElden You can only judge his record during and before WW1. After WW1, his position was supported by the Tories. The Tories forced him to accept the Irish agreement. Besides, why do you even care about Ireland? Even if we kept them, it's not as if they were our prize colony. Very expensive and didn't pay it's way in our union.
Afghanistan was not a US only invasion. It was internationally supported. Iraq was just Britain excercising colonial power again, trying to get the oil.
@RichardElden And besides, I blame the decline of our navy on the Tories. If they hadn't of kicked Lloyd George out of his PM job, we would have never have signed the washington naval treaty, and we would have ordered G3 battlecrusiers which were far more powerful than anything the Japanese or Yank navies were producing.
@RichardElden If that's what you think about our navy, why are you so confident about our empire? At the time of WW2, the empire was a mess. After WW1, our empire was in decline, and by WW2 nationalism was at it's peak. How can you get angry at the politicians who dismantled the empire, yet you are happy for Hitler to take our fleet. You are a traitor to your country for supporting Hitler. You are not proud of Britain.
We finished being a US satellite during the 70s luckily.
@RichardElden Hitler wanted to control Europe. If we had followed your advice in 1939, we would have handed over our glorious fleet to him and have a puppet government put up in westminster. I know you love Hitler, but surely you are not such a traitor to your country that you think we should have been a German sattellite state?
@RichardElden You do not understand the balance of power then, do you? Let's pretend Britain has no military whatsoever. We would still be a great power simply because we have nuclear weapons. The fact we have nuclear weapons makes us invincible to every nation except other nuclear weapon states, of which there are few.
@RichardElden I was always under the impression that you were proud to be English.
You don't understand the balance of power, do you? Britain has not been a SUPER power since WW2. We have remained a great power though. We are the 6th most powerful country economically and the 4th most powerful militarily.
@RichardElden Why do you want our army smaller than it is already? Don't you want us to be militarily competative as a great power?
It is true that Britain is invincible to every nation except the nuclear power states. But imagine if America defaulted on its debts and China tried to invade England- what would we do then? Unlikely, but possible. Never say never.
@RichardElden Elden why the fuck do you support Scottish independance? I know you think it will mean Labour staying out of power. That's fine. But you do accept therefore that English prestige will suffer. Our army will be smaller, our navy will be smaller, our air force will be smaller, our economy will be smaller. Britannia is better than England or Scotland.
I will laugh like fuck at these southern cunts who think they are paying for everything up here, when an independant scottish economy starts booming and their debt ridden economy goes down the shitter without all our resources and tax revenues to to rely on.
I will laugh like fuck at these southern cunts who think they are paying for everything up here, when an independant scottish economy starts booming and their debt ridden economy goes down the shitter without all our resources and tax revenues to to rely on.
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The English want to be heard kelpers RIGHTS BUT THE RIGHTS OF THE IRISH, SCOTTISH AND WELSH NOT HEARD
dario2015 6 hours ago
you cant even say scotland or edinburgh right never mind getting the facts right :P
Morne555 2 days ago 2
English history shows if it cost money England gets rid it, this situation now because of the stupid Westminster politicians its beginning to frighten these clowns who dreamed up this nonsense about the as Scots as subsidy junkies ,The referendum calls their bluff. all of a sudden the Tories , labour. lib dems are all die hard Unionist, one would think of all that lovely lolly we are saving them they would be grateful but No! they are angry a sure sign they are not normal!
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etaylor2k11 5 days ago
Here pal you need to get your facts right. If you balance out the money that's went back and forth between Scotland and England Scotland has put 240Billion GBP's more into the UK coffers than it's had back since 1980.
At least research what your going to report on.
cheyenne6788 5 days ago
thumbs up if your british and you dont give a shit or even think aobut politics or boarder lines in the uk
j0rdyb0y62 6 days ago
@j0rdyb0y62 - Well perhaps you will give a shit when you can no longer call yourself British as there will be no Britain which will be the case in 2014. When we have to pay masses of additional tax to fund the huge expense appreciated with dividing the nation. Including billions to move our nuclear deterrent from Scotland. The Union Jack will also cease to exist as this includes Scotland. We will need a new constitution and a new way to govern England as its own nation.
WillShakespeare2007 5 days ago
@WillShakespeare2007 ok that sounds a bit scary
j0rdyb0y62 5 days ago
@j0rdyb0y62 - Indeed, we'll lose all Scots Army, Navy and Air Force regiments and facilities making it difficult to defend the Falklands for some time as all our subs and many navy bases are currently in Scotland and the English military would have to be rethought from the ground up. We'd also lose the majority of North Sea oil which brings billions into the economy as it's in Scots waters. We may even need a boarder/passport control. Yep it's a big deal.
WillShakespeare2007 5 days ago
@WillShakespeare2007 I am sure the SNP government will allow you (if you choose) to retain your subs at the Scottish bases until you have bases available in England the Scots in military can stay or change to the Scottish military as they choose or as England allows as for the oil money it isn't going to last long but think of the profit you will make buy ending the Barnett Formula, passport control then that `San English idea,we have no plans for machine gun nests,minefields,fences,ditches
Oder1001 5 days ago
also i must apolgise for any insults you may have recived but it is really hurtful a to be considered english lol we all take it to heart lol.
McGinlay1 1 week ago
your knowledge of " whits actualy happnin " is correct but misleading scotland is a nation colonised by Wankers so we drink buckfast and a lot of vodka and lager to escape from it we
McGinlay1 1 week ago
are in no fit state to rule a country (Yet ! ) you are pretty clued up for an american but scotland , as much as i would love to see us say bye bye england the reality from this is non existiant and with continue to be under the backward ways of the english while they empose their unwanted culture on us , whilist they pump our oilrigs Dry and extort our hotels clubs pubs airports and such peace out thanks for making the video.
McGinlay1 1 week ago
The traditonal nickname of the Telegraph is the Torygraph. It's the frothing far-right of the English Establishment.
When you don't know how to pronounce the name of a capital city, it's probably safer not to try an analysis.
And your regional map of Scotland was a decade out of date when you made this.
jistaface 1 week ago
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This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
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Scottish independence would be brilliant for England. The Scottish kept the Labour Party in power and the Labour Party have quite explicitly stated that they wanted to destoy England and reduce the working English people to peasants through multiculturalism, Islam, and flooding with people from the Third World. With Scotland no longer able to influence who governs England the Labour Party will be destroyed, and something can be done about multiculturalism.
dignifiedwhite 1 week ago
More of the same pish about England subsidising Scotland!!!....Do some research, SCOTLAND SUBSIDISES ENGLAND, Scotland's economy generates 11-13% of the UK wealth, we are 'given' as a budget 8-9% of this or less, and westminster plan to cut this budget even more. Can you now work out who needs who and see the real reason for Westminster fighting to keep Scotland in the UK ?!?
1977clarkson 1 week ago
I'm so angry. I am from Wales. I understand the difficulties and patriotism of the Scots. I feel it too. But if you brake up my United Kingdom that i love so dearly, right now in the 21st century when centuries of work have been put in to making us united, I will only feel shame for Scotland. Shame for people that would rather divide this land than unite it as one. As one united island that stands alone against the world. Shame Scotland. Total Shame.
MrTheNWO 2 weeks ago
@MrTheNWO Shame that it's not your country to decide what happens with it.
SkubaSt3v0 2 weeks ago
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This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
karezza6 2 weeks ago
well told man everything is true but we still need scot oil after it finishes they can go lol
1Banerjee 2 weeks ago
@1Banerjee Scotland has great wind energy potential as well....
tri400 2 weeks ago
Why is Northsea oil Scottish? Its not in Scottish waters...just pumped ashore there...i think its English oil and should bepumped ashore in England
SonofDurgesuth 2 weeks ago
@SonofDurgesuth Its Scottish oil cos England and Scotland signed a treaty in the 60ties.Spliting the sea in the CONTINENTAL SHELF ACT JURISDICTION ORDER.England spunked all there lot away on there side.It falls under our law,and is back up bye the full weight of international law.Scotland is still waiting for the money from the Falklands finds.And have not saw a penny off it so far.Funny union this is,when we are meant to be equall partners in it.Roll on the big divorce that will be happening.
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk That sounds like Scottish bullshit.....and theres plenty of that . I agree that England should separate as soon as possible...
SonofDurgesuth 2 weeks ago
@SonofDurgesuth What does?
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@SonofDurgesuth They won't. England need us. The fact that the Prime Minister is trying to control the referendum. The fact that George Osbourne is trying to ban us using Stirling. This just sounds like a desperate attempt to stop us leaving.
It's not that they care about Scotland being part of the Union. It's that we are worth something to them. If we were a poor burden to them. They would let us go. Have David Cameron. That slimey, sneaky prick.
DJSamMackinnon 1 week ago
@DJSamMackinnon Answer me this question....how much better off would Scotland be if it were independant?....Ive got no quarrel with the Scots leaving the union....because it would be better for England...Scotland is the dustbin of the UK and its time it was emptied
SonofDurgesuth 1 week ago
@SonofDurgesuth If you want a blunt answer with no detail. A lot better off.
Scotland is the dustbin of the UK. Is that why the government is hanging on to us.
Also why so many English people decide to come live here. There are a lot of English people here.
DJSamMackinnon 1 week ago
@DJSamMackinnon Scotland has the only declining population in the Uk
Westminster wants the Scottish people to have referendum as soon as possible...its the SNP that wants to wait until 2014...why is this? I will take back my remark on Scotland being a dustbin..not true. England knows that we are all stronger united than divided. I think SNP are playing a canny game of concessions more than independence
SonofDurgesuth 1 week ago
@SonofDurgesuth Are you scared? Why don't you help the dust bin leave? Who cares what you think about Alex salmond!!! Are you saving for your childrens Higher education? If not you better start!!! Great guy cameron is would'nt you say?
kamakaziRider88 1 week ago
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I think i would trust David Cameron more than Alex Salmond. Salmond would shit his pants if Scotland said yes to independence
SonofDurgesuth 1 week ago
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Southern England? The island isn't called 'England', you stupid cunt.
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CymroGoch 3 weeks ago
when the British have the right to interfere with american politics,then you can poison the minds of our people with your filth,
goggloski 4 weeks ago
this guy is pretty smart. No offence but you usually don't find Americans who know too much about scottish politics. This is refreshing
yermaww94 4 weeks ago
I look forward to the day when there is an Englishnationalist movement which recognises that the UK is finished let us part as civilised neighbours sharing an island but different.
forsythbill1 1 month ago
@RichardElden stop the oil thing, its aboot ran oot, it wasn't an english thing, chips off shoulders young men, every race has issues with another. I live in gtermany and get on fine with the locals, me fayther was bloody throwin handgrenades at them but we move on, do the same yous guys especially the Tim - prody issue for the sake of peace you have all been conned, orange bands for gods sake !!! wots that aaar aboot
johnsovx 1 month ago
i listen to your argument, but you are stuck on the border, northern englishmen have the same issues re tories as does evry scotsman, look at the political map its gets redder the more north you go.
Yes as scots you have more of an identity, but think wider than the border it aint just a scottish thing
johnsovx 1 month ago
@johnsovx this last post for legendarykirk, he seems to think things thru
johnsovx 1 month ago
OMG tribes are still active DOHHH, mix alittle guys, get over ya history. the chips on ya shoulder will sink ya all
johnsovx 1 month ago
@johnsovx We do mix and inter breed with each other.This is just Scots arguing there case for Independence.And it looks like they are winning.If somebody is going to lie,and what is happening here.And cant back up a word in what they are saying.They are always going to be challenged.The case for Independence is strong.I would H8 for another generation of young people,to grew up with the mist chances,that mines lost out on.As we were forced the Tories against our will.Who did not care about us.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
scotish wales cornwall, all speate from england, ireland united!
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@gmsm520 think about i,t think it thru !!!!!!!
johnsovx 1 month ago
@gmsm520 what does speate mean?
bazzatheblue 2 weeks ago
@gmsm520 I think you better separate from the UK as you can't even spell lol!
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StasisClungeFlux 1 week ago
@gmsm520 Cornwall is not separate from England retard
BritishLibertarian 1 week ago
@BritishLibertarian it should be weith the same status as scotland has now
gmsm520 1 week ago
@gmsm520 why is that the majority of the people in Cornwall are of English descent so your view is a retarded one
BritishLibertarian 1 week ago
@RichardElden Shetland Island Council has stated that they want law making powers regarding oil production, oil funds, and regulations regarding oil moved from Westminster to the Scottish Government and that it should be the Scottish Government who legislates for the oil industry in Shetland.
kirriereoch 1 month ago
@RichardElden So the SNP is a racist Anglophobic party? I guess that´ll explain why 12% of SNP MSPs sitting in the Scottish Parliament are English, will it?
8% of Scotland´s population were born in England, so 12% of MSPs being English is significantly higher than would otherwise be expected. Indeed, some of the key Scottish government members are English, e.g. Cabinet Secretary for Education, Mike Russell.
kirriereoch 1 month ago
Why would it change its name to .se for Southern England? Why not just .en for English? Or, considering Wales and Northern Ireland will still be there, just keep it as .uk for the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
MrChanceChange 1 month ago
@RichardElden Prove it the evidence suggests otherwise.Scots do not fear the English,who told you that?Look at our history,we have fought and resisted all attempts to take us over.And Edward Hammer of the Scots,has to be the most miss named King in the whole of History.You would think with that hard core name,that he had won his war against Scotland.When in reality he could never beat the Kingdom of Scotland.And died looking at the land that refused to bow to his barbarism,funny that is to me.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@legandrydirk so if your all Bravehearts why do you sponge off England at every opportunity? How many quangoes are set up explicitly to give scrounger money to the Scots and Welsh? More than you care to admit.
MightyWarriorSaxon 1 month ago
@MightyWarriorSaxon We get a block grant from UK Gov.After we sent them our oil money.Scotland gets ripped off big time.England does not subsidise us,how could they?How can a nation of 5.5 million.Cost anything to a nation that out numbers it 10 to one?And we cant invest our money.If its going down to England,and make it grow in banking hedge funds.And Barnet does not take into account the oil wealth.If it did it would show that Scotland subsidises England like the GERS report does,thank you.
legandrydirk 1 month ago 18
@legandrydirk we are still brought an sold for english gold till we stop taking it saor abla i wud b good if the guy who made this video new what he was talking about tho
kingpharaohtsar 3 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar Sounded like a septic tank,making out he was English.Your right he never had a clue.Really these stupid videos should be taken down.
legandrydirk 3 weeks ago
@legandrydirk i think its coz thay dont know our history so thay have no idear what we are many of us have forgoten too sadly in europe theres no finer laoch then us an thats gota be worth sumthing if it came to it id fight an im in the south of england right now i have no hate for sarssonach. saor alba
kingpharaohtsar 3 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar I canny see it coming to that.The USA has oil interests in the north sea.And England has never stood up to them alone.And never will as they know,that they would get done over seriosly.So they need to give our Independence the respect that its due,when it happens.And it will happen one day.Lets hope that we are both alive to see it.SAOR ALBA GU BRATH!
legandrydirk 3 weeks ago
@legandrydirk its comin an aye hopfully 100% peacefully england needs to die aloan evein the fue english close frends i have see this as true an we did well on our own b4 england evein realy existed i guess thats why thay dont say england forever tlack of true pride but then wear wud english pride come from
kingpharaohtsar 3 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar The Geordies and the Scouse are proud.They seem to be allright,and they even H8 those smug Bastards down south.As they saw there Cities die through Thatcher just like we did.We saw it sooner than they did though.Everbody is the same at the end of the day.When we bleed we all bleed red.Its just politics that piss us off.The south elect these fools,and then moan about them being Scottish.As if its more Scots than them in charge there,and its not and never has been ever and wont be
legandrydirk 3 weeks ago
@legandrydirk i allways thought geordies were just lost scots lol the south is a very soft place its horrorble it doznt feel like anywear in these isle posh people every wear an most of them pritty ignorent to the evils of england thay dont learn about such things in school tho thay do when thay meet me my hole family are celt maybe im abit over the top i dont know
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar You cant blame them for there brain washing.If anything you should feel sorry for them.Life is to short wasting your hate on them.Its just a cosmic throw of the dice,that they happened to be born on that side off the border.And not on our side off thee border.
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk aye its the states folt realy but i think the internet helps people learn i mean most people think of brave heart it seems iv a very english frend who said if scot..land seceded whatever will thay live on lol well he doznt think that any more hes allright tho he hates maggie an now knows a freedom fighter from a terrorist we will win historys on our sidewe have been who we are since we got here. slainte
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar See that Cameron prick,is trying to dictate to the SNP when the referendum will be.Even though its going against,the will off the Scottish electerite that voted the SNP in on trust and merit.He does not understand the Scottish people,and that will be his down fall.Loads of people who might not have backed the SNP before.Will have there minds made up bye that.And vote a big fuck you,to him for trying to tell a elected Gov what to do.Maggie even tried to deal with the IRA.
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk makes me think i sud vote lol camrons abit od scottish an acts like that i dont know why maggie will b dead soon IRA were have thay been i guess its all changed now but in 21 days il have a drink for the fallen i just hope i dont get pissed off by sum sarronach tit il keep peace in mind im sure u ever been to the south of england
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar You should vote we need all the support that we can get.You can post your vote up from England.
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk aye every lil helps but u know change is unstopable i mean what do we get out of this anymore other then a lack of freedom an think what it will kick off lol saor alba saor gaelic domhan
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar True the union is a sham.Even if it was started bye our Royalty.What use have those toffee nosed rat bags ever had?When did they ever do anything worth while for anybody but them self?Without getting pats on the back for it.And a ton of good PR.to make people think that they really care for there subjects.Cant wait to get the vote,to ditch that load off self servers out on there face.And all there hangers on,that go with them.Following them round wiping there Royal arse holes.
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk thay made a chioce sadly the wrong 1 for us an now there all nearly gone but the people remain an we allways will big change coming cant wait sudnt b to long judging things evein from down here thay know its coming cymru an eire next
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar Cant see the Welsh following our lead just yet.The support there for Independence is not as strong.Labour is still the main party in Wales.Scotland is different though,as we can support our self if we get it.And it will not just be from the oil and gas.As a lot of people,seem to think.Large part of the main wealth will come from that though.And our economy can be built up from the bottom to the top from it.And that is better than waiting till its dry to get nothing for our selfs
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk aye that area is ironicly probily the land used to get here when we frist settled these isles it made as now it will save us bit of a poetic spin but u get the idear i dont know if u know about our genetic maker
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar I do the Basques settled Scotland from Spain.The English got settled bye Belguims and other European tribes.In the times off early man.And after that the islands,got invaded bye Anglo Saxons,and Vikings.Even the French that came,originated from a Viking.They took Ireland and the Irish Gails took parts of Scotland.And breed out the Picts through marridge.The Welsh are meant to be the original inhabitents of the UK,as they fled the Romans and hid behind mount Snowdonia
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk ptritty comprehensive stuff there nice to see useuly people dont have a clue of are history when asked wear we are from i useualy just go with the orkney island settlers from scandinavia 10,000yrs ago due to the dna being basicly the same as today i allways find this telling of our peoples blood not that im racist far from it just inpressed by nature an genetics but are history is whats realy shaped us u may b interested in the cheeder man if u google it or sumthing
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar Read up on her,think they found he was fe male
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
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@kingpharaohtsar Read up on her,think they found he was fe male
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar The Normans were Viking pirate dicendents.
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk i wonder how much dna the normans lift behind in the south of england coz the culture seem to have been strong with the whole language thing at the time that william fella changed alot b4 england was evein england lol i wonder if thay remember
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
@kingpharaohtsar They were up in Scotland to.They took over most off the island.They took England bye force though.In Scotland we more or less invited them here.And got them marrying our nobility.
legandrydirk 2 weeks ago
@legandrydirk i allways feel alil off about the way leaders mix due to the idear that we may end up ruled by non native forces witch as u can guess is not very indipendent i dont mind change but i realy feel it sud b the peoples chioce else freedom mite b lost an i dont wona see our people as slaves again maybe evein going back to a brehon like law that mite b to far for most tho
kingpharaohtsar 2 weeks ago
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Yeah, Scotland is really getting a bad deal in this UK thing, huh? what with their free universities and prescriptions and their own parliament and a hugely disproportiante grant from the UK gov. Absolute travesty this.
JHBGaming 1 week ago
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@JHBGaming We paid for that our self.Scotland has subsidised the rest off the UK for over 40 years.And the prove off what I am saying comes from WESTMINSTER,in the McCRONE report.A secret phile that was burried for over 30 years.In it is said that,Scotland could have been as rich as Switzerland in 74,if it has been Indy.It said that in the 80ties,London got 3 billion a year in oil revenue from Scotland.And at the time the SNP,only thought they were being ripped off 800 million a year.So shut up.
legandrydirk 1 week ago
@JHBGaming I totally agree.... their loss!
MockBlue 1 week ago
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"what with their free universities and prescriptions "
You don't understand why they're free, though, do you?
It's because it's "their own parliament " and not Whitehall making the spending priorities and allocating the resources. That's all, that's the difference. The amount hasn't changed.
(Actually, you get a bigger share: we're 8.5% of UK population, we get about 9.3% of UK GDP back, although our per-head GDP contribution is 10% (WITHOUT oil.)
EDUCATE YOURSELVES!
jistaface 1 week ago
@MightyWarriorSaxon, no quango's are set up for this purpose.
Here's a question for you.
If Scotland is in such a position that it cannot survive on it's own, then who is responsible for that?
If Scotland was independent and was in such a position that it was poor, the government that ran that country would be responsible.
Dream on!
We're all in this together, just that one area of the country gets subsidised more than all of the rest. Yep! SouthEast England.
chancergordy 1 month ago
@MightyWarriorSaxon such an english thing to say, if you look at the math WE SUBSIDISE YOU YOU SCRONGING CUNTS
triputean 1 month ago
@MightyWarriorSaxon Give Wales its £300,000,000 per annum back and equal time and say in the British parliament and you can moan about your supposed quangos.
CymroGoch 3 weeks ago
@legandrydirk, yep, just like a little hitler, he took on too much, When England wasn't at war with another country, it was only when it was at war with itself.
An agressive, devisive, interfering warmongering country which should have learned by now but hasn't.
never mind, the debt we are ALL now in will blunt their aggression for a little while.
chancergordy 1 month ago
@chancergordy They should know there place in the world.If only they could get over there ego.When we are out the union,they will still happily play USA,s bitch.Playing the worlds police gets them all hard.And trying 2 force there culture down other nations throats.As if God gave them the right to be the judge.It is funny that they only want 2 play police,in the nations that have the oil.The 2 of them turn a blind eye 2 places like Sedan,that are poor.And lots of other nations just like them to.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The SNP is not racist,never has been never will.The party was not dragged through a court of law,to get ethnics to be allowed to join the party like the BNP was.SNP has English members of the party.One is in one of our top jobs,running the country.The party has never been anti English.In fact it was a English woman,who was a founder member,of one of the parties that the SNP came out of the embers off.When two parties merged to offer Independence,like she believed in.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden And your German and Viking and Roman and French in origin.So all the English people with that blood,are going to get sent home to are they?After hundreds of years living there?Your are not even logical,in the tripe you talk about.You inhabit some kind of warped fantasy world.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The union of crowns was 1603.And the migration to Ireland happened in a 90 period from 1607 1697.So it was the King of England and Scotland that sent them there.So your talking crap again.And get this they are Irish now.And have been for over 300 years.Glad that I have cleared that up for you.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden All the gas is in English waters?Really you want to read a marine map.England sucked there side dry,over 15 year ago.He was James the first,of Britain.And that happened after the union of crowns.So it was done bye a British King.And that means that you are talking garbage.I would say that creating the NHS.And bringing peace in N Ireland.And talking the yanks into helping in Kosovo,was pretty good as well.Still will never vote for them,type in Labour 24.And see the real Labour scum.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The loyalists are mainly born in Ulster.And Ulster is not in Scotland.Scots got sent there hundred of years ago bye the British King.You are as much clueless about history,as you are about politics.Us Scots will decide our own destiny.And there is nothing that the likes of you,can do about that reality.And England is also 3 2 leave the union at any time.Even the English do not believe that they are paying for us.They know that oil and gas,is propping up the deficit of England.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden He never told us that there was W.O.M.D in Iraq.And lied about a three min warning.Norway was also in the so called arc of prosperity.He actually did see the world bank crisis coming.He and the SNP,had called for the banks to be regulated for over 20 years.And Westminster would not listen to him.He called for putting up a penny tax in the 90ties,that would have helped.And Scotland is on coarse to meet the clean energy targets we set.Westminster cant reject it,if Scots vote in fav.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Have never heard of them.Want to tell me,were your getting your info from?What is the name of these UN laws.Give me the name of the name of the legislation.I am still waiting on it.You cant just come out with that crap.And not back it up,with the proper information.About were you have read this.If you are to be taken serious and not just be scene,as the bitter anti Scottish angry ten a penny,unionist hate filled troll.With the 1000 fake troll accounts.English nationalism LOL LOL
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The GERS report says otherwise,that Scotland subsidises England.You are a bull shit merchant.This is why you can not back up any off these mad claims.Or tell me the name,of any of these so called EU laws.You say are out there.The reason for that is that they do not exist.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The fanny that started all this Shetland Independence pish.He is so popular that he has three followers on his page.Scotland also generates power from waves,and has coal gasification clean power.I think you will find your telling lies.Scotland is a rich nation,and does not need to be tied to failing England.Were the GDP rate there,has stopped growing.Our GDP rate is still growing.Your still not proving anything,just lying through your rotting teeth.Your consumed bye my nation
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Cameron has not arranged anything.Stop talking shite to me.You are a utter fantasy merchant.Who has said they believe you in here?Hill is a laughing stock up there.We know that he is working for the unionists trying to stir it up.In typical English fashion,he is not a real islander.And his support,all 13 off them are ex English oil workers.He even took two tourists with him.To try and make his numbers look stronger when he made his childish declaration,the Shetlands are Scottish.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Who are you to say that?Have you got a noble prize in economics like Joseph Stiglits has?The cleverest man in that field.And he says that Scotland can reach full fiscal autonomy with out England.After working on Scott and Hewletts finding who have PGD,s.You are just a sad pathetic troll.Who cant back up a single thing he says.Still not looked a those hidden Westminster philes,on Scots Indy yet?3 under the freedom of information act?U need 2 cling 2 us,cos we are the powerhouse.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden 900 000 voted SNP out off a nation of 5.5 million.Who are not all at a voting age.It was a white wash,it was so bad.Every unionist leader stood down after it.Even they know that the jigs up.Your not worth talking to any more.This is not a debate,its just you being hateful and nasty,against people that you do not know.The Highlands voted SNP as well,in rural areas and the Cities.I love the teutars,and they love there nights out in Glasgow.As it is still very gaelic like Ayrshire is.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Ever wondered why drink,is cheaper in poorer areas?And drugs are easy to get hold off?Its to stop any radical political though process.Its a easy way,to give somebody a other problem,to take up there every day off life.If they just think about there next fix,or there next drink.They will not notice,that they are being explioted bye the ruling classes and the Govs.If there minds were clear.They would be in a better place,to challenge the status quo.U H8 SNP know this,and change it.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden And plenty of folk believe he was not guilty.Who have nothing to do with the SNP.The yanks should stop shooting down Iranian air liners,in Iranian air space.And not give the captain of the ship that done it a promotion.We made the parliament happen.Our free will made it happen.People thinking for them self freely,is what you cant stand.Our health problems are down to cheap drink.So we stop thinking,like in USA black areas.SNP put the price of drinks up.Starting from next year
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Westminster realised the bomber,the yanks know this.Prince Andrew hand a hand in it to.This is why Obama never got a invite to the Royal wedding.As he would have questions to answer.It was all up on wikileaks.Brown gave him philes,with loop holes in our legal system.Even the Libyans are not stupid enough.To do a oil deal,with a Gov that does not even own its own oil.And the USA knows this as well.Even members of his alleged victims,think he was a stooge of the CIA.RESEARCH IT now.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Prove that we are racist or that USA is against the SNP.Coming from someone from the nation that gave us Oswald Moseley,tht is so funny.Go and read the poll,that says Scots are pro migration,us and the Londoners.Were the only places,were we were in favour off it.Hardly racist is it,typical your reduce it to petty insults.As you know its only a matter off time.Britain is on its last legs.Its dying and with it your indentity will go with it.You cant even answer simple questions can U
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The USA will not allow that.And the EU nations will not allow that to.When they trade with Scotland.And have money invested in Scotland,with there companies.Keep on dreaming RUDEYDUDY
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden When Scotland gains Independence they cant stop it.And it does not matter to the yanks.They get the same set rate of cash,as they are getting right now for drilling it.You over estimate your own power.And under estimate the hand that Scotland has.Britain never put up much of a fight at the time,when it was found.If they had we might have got a better deal.And UK never attacked Norway for there oil.What makes you think you would attack Scotland for ours?Or anybody else?
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The Vikings took them off Scotland first.They were always part of our Kingdom.As the saga,s tell you.We had to fight them,as they tried to take over our nation.They have never been Independent in there whole history.We might as well break the whole of Britain up to then.And give all the regions there Independence.And Cameron is not doing any such thing.Its not even lawful.As they have voted SNP.As they are showing there self as Scots,and not for the first time.Read it and weep.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden The Shetland islands have always been part of Scotland.The only other time that it was not.Is when Norway invaded them bye force.So you want to reward nations,for being tyrants?While we are at it.Scotland should have Berwick and the lake districts back then from England?There is viking sages in Norway.It tells of when the islands were invaded.And there is no uch Independence movement on the island.Only the SNP one,as they voted for them.English ex rig workers are stirring it up.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden it generates the money by selling scottish resources
returnofthemadguy 1 month ago
are you fucking series-the only time they will allows us independence,is when OUR north sea oil dries up-its is rich you say the injustices visited on the english ppl because of scotland-do you know what england has done to my country-braveheart was maybe a bit factually incorrect but the main points are true,also scotland sends more money south than london sends to us-SCOTLAND SUSIDISES the uk,a study done a few years ago said if scotland were to split it would be the 3rd richest contry inworld
returnofthemadguy 1 month ago
@RichardElden They are Irish there not Scots.Its not 400 years ago.They will not accept or want that.And Scots do not want,or will accept that.And they went there as Brits.It was after the union of crowns
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden They will still be part of Britain.So no we will not have to take them at all.Who ever told you that,is pulling your plundger.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden It trades with the world,not all the money stays in London.Portillo himself said on his show,that the East End of London,was the poorest area of the Country.We know this already,and it gets more subsidies than any other area.And that is why the Olympic games has went there.To re generate the place,as its a run down dive.The 2nd financial hub is Glasgow.We will get on banking from there,if we need to.If its in our interests,when we are a Independent nation.And we can thrive up here.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Heard it
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Laid it on with the pre verbial towel?Fuck off its trowall.He never mentioned the oil.And its actually Scotland that gives between 12 and 15 billion a year to England in money.Or about East London being the most subsidised region of the UK.And he does not sound English.Laying it on with a towel,is not a English saying.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden They were aiming at Belfast,so aye they were in the wrong.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Why are you telling me that?I am not Irish,so it does not make me angry.Direct your troll comments,at somebody who gives a shit.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden I see you are changing the subject.As you do not have anything to say about the politics?You proof nothing do you?
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden What good would that have done?Apart from having a force there to occupy it,that was needed for fighting?And there would have been resistance.It would not just have been the Germans bombing Britain.The Irish put there lights out.When Churchill threatened if they never,that he would do it for them.
legandrydirk 1 month ago
@RichardElden Ah,a new question to circumvent the last.Because he´d already been to Downing Street earlier in the year&had seen the nice wallpaper and realised it wasn´t an Englishman he was dealing with, but actually a "fellow Celt" Welsh speaking Welshman?But I can´t answer that really,even my grandparents weren´t alive then.I have to rely on documents&books like those of Norman Davies, a fellow of the British Academy and Royal Historical Society&a University of London & a Oxford Professor.
kirriereoch 1 month ago
@RichardElden Except the history books I have, and the wikipedia and Irish web sources say he met Lloyd George 4 times inJuly 1921? "A Truce was subsequently declared, to date from noon on July 11th. An Irish delegation led by Eamon de Valera accompanied by "Important others(my abbreviation, lots of names)". Eamon de Valera and David Lloyd George met four times at 10 Downing Street between 14 and 21 July. While in London de Valera also met Sir James Craig on 15 and 18 July.
kirriereoch 1 month ago
@RichardElden Which of the 3 options are both?
kirriereoch 1 month ago
Mistake? To quote Norman Davies in Vanished Kingdoms,"3 days after the truce,Éamon de Valera went to Downing Street to sound out Lloyd George&a priceless scene ensued.De Valera was used to thinking of Ireland´s oppressors as"English".He had not countered on his British opponent being both a Celt&native Welsh speaker.The"Welsh wizard"played along with him."So what is the Gaelic name for your state?"."Saorstát".I see replied Lloyd George,"I didn´t hear the Gaelic word for republic in your speech."
kirriereoch 1 month ago
@RichardElden Regarding Northern Ireland, is your statement quoted as a threat or as a free gift like BOGOF (Buy One Get One Free) or as a positive outlook of future mutual respect and development?
kirriereoch 1 month ago
@RichardElden And lloyd George really confused Éamon De Valera when De Valera had to proclaim the freedom of Ireland in broken Irish (Gaelic) to Lloyd George in Downing Street. Mr Lloyd responded in his native tongue, Welsh, "You want a republic? What is a republic? We Celts in these isles have never had a Republic."
kirriereoch 1 month ago
Sir - the flow of cash goes from scotland to england, if you include oil, which you do, because the industry is in scotland.
generally I am pro-union - however I would dearly love to see your face on the day that scotland puts an export tax on it's oil sent to england.
you - aww shit
alex29443 1 month ago
what a jackass, never heard of Kirkwell, Kirkwall though, heard of that. Check your map, Jackass!
scottdenny 1 month ago
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What are you on about mate. What are you on about.
fearghasmor 2 months ago
who is this politically illiterate plank?
chancergordy 2 months ago
@RichardElden: There is no island of Britain. The island that I, and I imagine you, were born on was GREAT Britain. I live in the Sovereign State of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It was, historically, unchallenged to interchange "British" and "English", no matter what the state of union [between the UK and an already independent nation!]. (4 nations, E&W and 2 nations, Great Britain, Great Britain and Ireland, UK and Eire)
DrewMurray1874 2 months ago
@RichardElden ...no
duracell777 2 months ago
@RichardElden i want england to have a parliament for england, i dont want the UK to have a parliament at all
duracell777 2 months ago
@RichardElden I clealy said "David Cameron is still my Prime minister" the point still stands. I dont want to be British i know its hard for you to grasp but i really dont. I want scotland governed in scotland i asume you scottish why dont you?
duracell777 2 months ago
Scotland unite under the UK independence would destroy us!
Gham505 2 months ago
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UK ftw..Forget scottish independence:) The Union flag shall forever stand....
carmelokm 2 months ago
You read this of a British newspaper, ive read this before lol
TheChowie 2 months ago
"At least £11 billion or $20 billion of English money heads for Edinburgh each year."
That sentence alone proves you don't know what you're talking about. Do your research.
EqualityScotland 2 months ago
Do you realise how much of an idiot you look substituting the word "government" with the word "raj"...? This is the most UN-educated video I have ever seen.
Reunakk 2 months ago
You dont know shit.
There are 650 constituencies is the UK, in Scotland the Conservatives won 1 yet David Cameron is still my Prime minister.
I am scottish not British its really that simple.
duracell777 2 months ago
@richyloike1 learn some facts b4 comenting
TheFreefa11 2 months ago
Yet another Yank who knows nothing about British history.
brassbastion 2 months ago 8
@richyloike1 england will be the wans failin wen we leave the UK sa yu will be the wans gettin telt tae fuck off
beverage2008 2 months ago
edinburg...lol
JosephPorta18 2 months ago
Soooooooo... Apparently £11M is equivalent to $20B...kinda hard to take the rest of the video seriously. Never mind the fact that said money (11M/28B??? its actually about £30B) is simply Scotland's share of the taxes raised throughout the whole country (minus Billions of pounds of oil, wind and tidal power money). Does this guy expect people to believe this is anything other than anti-Scottish propaganda. P.S. The "reactions" bar should have a "Bullshit" option.
DaleisTankRid 3 months ago
Scotland hopefuly will leave the union,and it wont fail, so you wont have to tell us to fuck off!
Upeter2 3 months ago
The Chancellor of the Ex-checker...lol.
mrmemanme 3 months ago
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NEWS JUST IN!!! If Scotland becomes Independent we will be the 6th richest country in the world while England will be 16th! If that isn't a good enough reason to vote yes to Independence... I don't know what is! Come on everyone! Lets leave WASTEMONSTER behind us and MOVE FORWARD to a HEALTHIER, WEALTHIER, HAPPIER, STRONGER SCOTLAND! xx
mrkjames9 3 months ago
@RichardElden I think he will, considering that England takes more money from Scotland, in the form of natural resources, than it actually gives (net). Also, it's up to you if you think he's racist, but calling him repulsive and bald is the kind of language I'd expect from... well, racists.
aragornthebrave 3 months ago 5
@RichardElden You're not proud of being British then. In that case, fuck off and stop talking about it. We should all be discussing how to be successful again, so we can build a fine military again and maintain our great power status. Our military isn't even that bad. In fact it's very good. We have the new air craft carriers coming in 2020 for example. Why don't you start coming up with ideas instead of moaning?
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden You can only judge his record during and before WW1. After WW1, his position was supported by the Tories. The Tories forced him to accept the Irish agreement. Besides, why do you even care about Ireland? Even if we kept them, it's not as if they were our prize colony. Very expensive and didn't pay it's way in our union.
Afghanistan was not a US only invasion. It was internationally supported. Iraq was just Britain excercising colonial power again, trying to get the oil.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden And besides, I blame the decline of our navy on the Tories. If they hadn't of kicked Lloyd George out of his PM job, we would have never have signed the washington naval treaty, and we would have ordered G3 battlecrusiers which were far more powerful than anything the Japanese or Yank navies were producing.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden If that's what you think about our navy, why are you so confident about our empire? At the time of WW2, the empire was a mess. After WW1, our empire was in decline, and by WW2 nationalism was at it's peak. How can you get angry at the politicians who dismantled the empire, yet you are happy for Hitler to take our fleet. You are a traitor to your country for supporting Hitler. You are not proud of Britain.
We finished being a US satellite during the 70s luckily.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden Hitler wanted to control Europe. If we had followed your advice in 1939, we would have handed over our glorious fleet to him and have a puppet government put up in westminster. I know you love Hitler, but surely you are not such a traitor to your country that you think we should have been a German sattellite state?
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
Tony B-Liar is Scottish! English people are better off without the Scots!
petersz98 3 months ago
@RichardElden Yes, I know you're a neo-nazi. But what is your position on WW1? Should we have stayed out of that too?
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden Yes.
There is no reason for you to hate Scotland. They were instrumental in our victories against France and Germany.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden You do not understand the balance of power then, do you? Let's pretend Britain has no military whatsoever. We would still be a great power simply because we have nuclear weapons. The fact we have nuclear weapons makes us invincible to every nation except other nuclear weapon states, of which there are few.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden I was always under the impression that you were proud to be English.
You don't understand the balance of power, do you? Britain has not been a SUPER power since WW2. We have remained a great power though. We are the 6th most powerful country economically and the 4th most powerful militarily.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@RichardElden Why do you want our army smaller than it is already? Don't you want us to be militarily competative as a great power?
It is true that Britain is invincible to every nation except the nuclear power states. But imagine if America defaulted on its debts and China tried to invade England- what would we do then? Unlikely, but possible. Never say never.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
New Country ?? Scotland is like 1200 years older than the USA...
People have been in Scotland for thousands of years..
We beat the romans.. then the english... and hopefully we will do it again :)
pittendrigh2007 3 months ago
@RichardElden Elden why the fuck do you support Scottish independance? I know you think it will mean Labour staying out of power. That's fine. But you do accept therefore that English prestige will suffer. Our army will be smaller, our navy will be smaller, our air force will be smaller, our economy will be smaller. Britannia is better than England or Scotland.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
Why do the scots wear kilts? Because sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away :) loljk good luck scots?
TrollExterminator232 3 months ago
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I will laugh like fuck at these southern cunts who think they are paying for everything up here, when an independant scottish economy starts booming and their debt ridden economy goes down the shitter without all our resources and tax revenues to to rely on.
1966thewallace 4 months ago
I will laugh like fuck at these southern cunts who think they are paying for everything up here, when an independant scottish economy starts booming and their debt ridden economy goes down the shitter without all our resources and tax revenues to to rely on.
1966thewallace 4 months ago
stop wishing ill will on alex salmond then
mrmagicroundcircle 4 months ago