Here's the thing, nothing "happens on the street." Self-defense is generally nothing but theory only, as so called "self-defense" weapons are almost never used to shoot anyone. They provide some sort of psychological satisfaction that's described as "self-defense," but is usually no more than justification for toting around lethal toys that guys dig.
That said, I have a pistol and enjoy shooting it at the range. No need for "self-defense" explanations.
@kensimmonsmba After being ambushed at knife point and thinking my time was up, i gave some serious thought as to how to protect myself, especially as i am much older. Luckily for me America allows me to protect myself and my family when no help is near, which is nearly always the case when bad things happen. Psychological? Yes. Comforting? Yes. Still alive? Yes.
@kensimmonsmba You've never been put in a situation when you would want something for self defense. Granted most of us don't run into those situations in our life, I have, and that is why I have something for "self-defense". It's not a toy, and I don't treat it as such. By your logic, police just want to look cool. Because of course "self-defense" is just justification of toting our big toys. If you are ever in a situation that makes you wish you had a "big toy", your mind would change.
@DonutVIP go fuck yourself you stupid cod player, the gases from inside the barrel bloback the slide Not the bullet or the recoil that has nothing to do with it,
@steezyskiier1 will lets i dont talk about cod shit and hate those game as much as you so take your time and said shit i fucking hated to im trying to learn more you dumb fuck
@DonutVIP oh thats weird because i just looked at your channel and whatdo u know! your subscribed to all gamers (i looked at sum of their channels) your favorite video is "top ten scariest moments of gamers" and your history (comments subs likes) are all gaming videos and airsoft!
I would only voluntarily carry a .22 if I did not own anything more appropriate. If you do a Google search for "Terminal Ballistics as Viewed in a Morgue" you can find some really interesting reading about what a morgue worker recommends.
rule of thumb shoot the biggest caliber you can quickly reliably put rounds reliably on target in a high stress situation .22 - .50 doesn't matter as long as you can hit what you're aiming at it'll give the bad guy a bad day.
That being said, if it can't instantly put a squirrel down, I am pretty sure a human could take a few shots even in the chest and just keep coming. Just not enough there without hollowpoints.
Even then its questionable. Remember, if your in a shoot situation you want to stop the threat, and why count on a .22 to do it when you can carry a .380 thats the same size with x10 the power?
I can tell you that shooting out of my 10/22, at less than 10 yards, I have had at least 2 shots on squirrel with the exact ammo your using (FMJ) and not gotten a kill with a chest shot, both I had to find in the tree they ran up and tag them again.
After this I switched to only lead nose or hollow point shots. What I saw on the tree rat's were little tiny holes all the way thru, with no damage. Switching to lead nose (even cb shorts) and hollow points resulted in instant kills.
The suitability of a pistol for self defense HAS TO depend on it's likely USE. For the average citizen, in the average circumstance, the truth is that a 22 is PLENTY (well, for carry that is, not for home defense--where a person has ALREADY DEMONSTRATED he's willing to force his way into your home).
The reason it's plenty for general circumstances is that virtually ALL bad guys will run as fast as they can at the FIRST SIGHT of the gun--much less the first shot. All others get a headshot.
Use Sniper sub sonic by Aguila 60Grain Don't know how fast them suckers are going but out of a NNA 22LR at 3 feet with a 1.5 in barrel it impacted the phone book stack went threw 3 in and turned sideways making it close to the impact of my 380 cal... Somewhere near a 32 cal and surpassed a 25 cal round. It made damage past 5 inches without penetration. It was much better than any stinger or other "high powered round" The weight really helps. Crazy looking round.
Friend of mine found that bullet on a hospital gurney in Dallas back in '63.
Seriously, there are marks on it; they show up better on a larger screen. I've noticed a great lack of detail viewing videos on an IPhone, etc. Not certain how you were viewing it, but the type of device does impact detail, and these vids are a high quality 1080p HD.
against someone stoned on pcp? no. Against a normal person yes. But if there not on drugs It probably doesn't matter what caliber it is they will probably run.
Nobody will ever convince the bigger is better crowd about acceptable personal defense calibers
here or any where. However the 22 LR FMJ penetrates about as deep as all the calibers that are Gold Dot JHP. About 12 inches. Any body hit in the heart by 22FMJ LR will simply die in about 15 seconds. So any one choosing to lug around a 3 lb 45 or 44 magnum 16 hours a day 365 days a year, have at it. FMJ and shot placement makes the difference. 380 FMJ will do one just fine, even a 22LRFMJ works.
The first rule of a gun fight is to have a gun. A 22 that you have with you is significantly better than a 45 that is at home because it is uncomfortable to carry.
todo el q ha disparado con un 22 sabe que buscando las zonas blandas la bala una ves dentro reota como una peloa de ping-pong!!! eso la hace mas efectiva que los calibres grandes. Ya lo se que no tiene el mismo poder de parada pero es mas efectiva.
To separate the crazies from common sense,you are more likely to be strike by lightening than needing to shoot a bad guy?assuming you stay out of ghetto neighborhoods and late hour convenience stores? EDC of light gun makes more sense than a 3Lb 45. The 22 or 380 will serve you just fine. I been held up and didn't need to shoot the bad guy,he ran away, and years as Cop and Sheriff never shot any one at all. The 22 will do just fine, I carry EDC a 380 S&W and FMJ suits me just fine. 22 is safe.
40gr solid... we're not worried about over penetration or breakup of the projectile so the benefits of a HP don't translate. With .22LR we are trading energy and depth for better shot placement.
As such the approach to defense with a .22LR must be different. Sufficient penetration to damage the CNS is unlikely, barring multiple rounds to the ocular-cranial cavity. The only other option to incapacitate is to open a major artery to induce shock from blood loss. Hence one must train differently.
I only use .22lr for plinking. I recently picked up some 60grain .22lr made by aguilera, I bought it just because it was subsonic (quieter) and it was the heaviest .22lr I've seen. Personally for concealed carry 9x19 is my bottom, but, the caliber doesn't matter if you don't hit your target. WAY too many people carry very light 9mm's & .40S&W's but never spend any range time with it. IMO the best carry weapon is the most powerful cal. that you can carry comfortably and shoot accurately
In terms of power its not very strong but still better then pepper spray. My only issue is ammo. I would probably stick to premium grade match ammo to insure funtion. This is probably the best review I've seen regarding a rimfire for self defense. With 25acp, 17hmr, and other odd smallbore chambering for handguns you should avoid getting lost in determineing expansion since they don't really penetrate much when they don't expand. For these Calibers penetration is more import then expansion.
@beastyguns indeed the .22 was the choice of assasins becuase the .22 would enter the brain cavity and would have enough velocity left to escape meaning it would just ricochet around in the cavity till it stopped.
In my personal opinion, i prefer larger caliber for self defense, but hey if you shoot 10 rnds of this 40gr into the head/lungs/heart.. the threat will be neutralized. Or at least incapacitated to get away to save yourself. Would I choose it for my number one.. No. .40s&w is my first choice. But this ammo is so low recoil, and you can be so pinpoint accurate with it.. if YOU do YOUR job will shot placement.. you will walk out alive, and I am a firm believer in that.
@OMGitsMalcolm You said exactly what i was thinking. That is pretty good expansion on those bullets shown in the video as well, i definately wouldnet want that hitting me.
@tnoutdoors9 (or anyone with valid opinion) - How about 40 grain mini mag round vs 40 grain velocitor hollow for defense? Think the higher speed of the velocitor will give it equal/similar penetration?
I use a Heritage Arms 22 mag Western Style Pistol with a CCI 22 mag hollow point. I love the results I get. We hunt small hogs in Louisiana with 22 magnum (Bolt action rifle.). Very effective with hogs from 150 to 200 pounds. I use the CCI 22 mini mag for small game, coons, rabbits, squirrels. It is a better built rounds than the Winchester or Remington rounds in my personal opinion. I enjoyed your review, thanks for the info.
I'm not really comfortable with anybody and everybody being armed to the teeth in public places, but I think having low penetration is the single most important feature. A bullet's a bullet, and no matter what it will stop an attacker. If not, fire more. The problem can be if the bullet leaves the target and continues at a decent speed.
the last wild pig i shot was with a ruger 10/22. shot placement is key though with any light cartridge & a self defense situation is never like an afternoon at the air-conditioned range in front of a peice of paper. the target usually isn't moving, isn't high on meth, isn't wearing a leather jacket, doesn't have a rib-cage or skull to penetrate, isn't hiding behind a door, & isn't shooting back. a more powerful cartridge will help you maximize the imperfect shots you may be forced to take.
i love the high velocity hollow point .22 rounds from remmington.
i have a box right here, remmington .22 longrifle brass plated hollow points. i buy them in bulk of 525 bullets a box at about $20 a box. they go great with my 10/22 and my MK I, accurate at 100 yards out of my 10/22 and have the stopping power of a bull at 10 to 25 yards, especially since the ammo hits but wont over penetrate.
I used to use remington as well for my 10/22 and mk3. However, I found a more consistent brand. if i may recommend the federal bulk pack (same price), You should really give it a shot (no pun intended)
boy, where does the compromise end? if it's the only thing you can shoot accurately/quickly then sure. but some of you guys will compromise your SD down to a pocket full of pebbles just so you can feel good about buying a cheap gun or ammo.
@yz9890 With all do respect, 22lr hurts a tad more than pebbles.
You see, the best gun a shooter has is the one he uses most. Given the cost of .45 and .223, i train with my 22s more, because thats what i can afford to do. Therefore, I would much rather bring those to a fight because I can control them much more effectively than the other calibers. I feel good knowing I can use my primary and secondary, even if they are just .22's.
The BEST tactical accessory is 10k rounds of experience.
@Saigax12 of course it hurts more than pebbles. you've got to balance bullet effectiveness with control and a 22 is out of balance. if that's all a person can shoot effectively than that's what they should carry. practice with a 22 is a great idea and its also extemely easy and affordable to transfer what you've learned to a more capable SD cartridge. i love 22's. they get the bulk of my range time as well. then i take what i learn and apply it to my more powerful SD handguns.
I wouldn't trust a .22 only because of reliability, if it was a centerfire cartridge I'd probably consider it. After all .223 is just a overpowered centerfire .22 and it's extremely good at putting people down. Though the bullets themselves may have a different shape to them.
I like this guy, he's very non-biased and knows whats he's talking about.
I won't use a .22lr in a semi for SD unless I really needed too. Rim fire+auto doesn't always give the best reliability for SD. I agree with Peidmonte89 on the .22 mag DA revolver, that would seem to be a decent SD gun, namely as a backup.
I will, however, fell alot most comfortable with a .22 auto for SD them my FN .25 auto. Although my .25 is very reliable, the round wouldn't penetrate a old washing machine sheetmetel
its genius to use small calibers, cuz you can carry maybe 1000 rounds with you! ofcourse its not a big powerful bullet but im sure one bullet is enogh to take down many peoples!
I dont carry a .22 lr semi-auto. Not that its weak I just dont like using rimfire in semi auto platform. I do have a .22 Mag snubby I carry it on occasion with 40 gr CCI Maxi Mags. If I was gonna carry a .22 LR it would probably be in the Taurus 94 snubby. You'll have a more reliable gun and 9 shots. Not too bad for a .22 ccw. Still my bare minimums are the .32 acp and .22 Mag in FMJ loads. I mostly carry my .380 with Hydra-Shoks or Hornaday Critical defense. If not its my 9mm with gold sabers.
NAA MAKES THOSE .22 LR AND .22 MAG MINI REVOVLERS. WHAT WOULD BE THE VELOCITY ON ONE OF THOSE USING AGUILA WHICH IS RATED 1,750 FPS MOST LIKELY FROM A RIFLE.
I say there's only one way to settle this. One of you that doubts the .22 should make a video where you let somebody shoot you with a .22 so we can see how it effects you. You might want to get really high on drugs before you try it since being high apparently makes you bullet proof and immune to massive internal injuries.
I say there's only one way to settle this. One of you that doubts the .22 should make a video where you let somebody shoot you with a .22 so we can see how it effects you. You might want to get really high on drugs before you try it since being high apparently makes you bullet proof and immune to massive internal injuries.
@0rganDon0r I know. I was offering a relation to polymer-constructed weapons (instead of 'plastic'), and Glocks are the most well known "plastic" handgun IMO that people can relate to. That's why I denoted "... all the Glocks." instead of "... like all Glocks."
I've always thought the .22LR would be a fine round for defense. My main rason being that it IS easy to control and you CAN put a lot of rounds on target very quickly. While the little rounds won't make a big crush/stretch cavity, they DO poke holes in organs and that's what is important. I also find it amusing that those whould would bash a .22LR praise buckshot....think about it :)
I don't really think that energy play's much of a part in a bullets effectiveness in most cases. the .30-06 vs the .25-06 is a good example. the .30-60 hands down has more energy but the .25-06 kills a deer just as well. both get the bullet where it needs to get to do it's job and thats all that really matters.
Would sombody mind telling me the mathematical formula to calculate distance per second of a bullet and what i should look for on gun and bullet specs?
@MrINEEDNAME everybody is going to tell you something different but I'll give you my take. my opinion comes from one shot stop data and my hunting experiences. my criteria for handgun self defense loads are at least 12 inches of penetration and reliable expansion form that load. my favorite load in 9mm is speer gold dot 125gr +P or federal hst 147gr. my minimum is .380acp/.38spl. In general if the bullet pushes past 12" when expanded and is .30 caliber or larger you are in good shape.
@MrINEEDNAME google basic ballistics or calculations of bullet muzzle velocities. i have tried several times to copy and paste a couple of links to you, but apparently youtube wont let me
@LPtheDESTROYER .22LR has been successfully used as a sniper rifle ammunition and can definitely be lethal. Look at graphs showing what various bullets do in a human body. You'll see that speed of impact becomes a factor with high velocity rifle ammunition. Pistol ammunition that doesn't exceed the speed of sound will not expand so much when hitting a target.
@grawling I understand exactly the lathality of the cartridge, and wouldnt deny it! I realise that slower moving projectiles do not tend to expand wuch on impact as opposed to much faster moving equivalents do. I find 220 grain 7.62 fmjs loaded in the 39 cartridge extremely effective surpressed, as they penetrate deep, and are extremely quiet subsonic. Excellent work by the way, Good job!
Take for instance the stories coming from the war zones in the sandbox. Some diaper heads are high on drugs and it takes multiple rounds from a 5.56 to anchor them. I'm not hearing any stories of more than one shot from a .50 cal to anchor their drugged up behinds.
Gen. George S. Patton: Because they don't make a 46.
This quote was also attributed to a Texas ranger.
You also have to account for liability. Now days criminals file suit and sometimes win even after they are convicted of breaking and entering / burglary, etc.
A dead man cant testify or file suit. If you only hit the criminal one time, he is far more likely to bleed out from a larger caliber wound than a small caliber wound.
I don't think a 22lr is enough of a round for SD, concidering larger calibers take several shots to stop a determind attacker less a well placed heart shot. That being said shot placement is important but since few of us are hardend killers heart and head shots on moving targets when you're scared and adernaline pumping is difficult at best. No matter what arm chair commandos and CoD players say.
@serverguy87 so if i go up to you and shoot you point blank with my entire 10 round magazine in the center of your chest. you'll live? didnt think so, thats how most crimes happen, thug walks right infront of a guy, then pulls out his .22, and unloads onto his chest or head.
@serverguy87 Get off your lazy ass and look it up. .22's and '25's are the most popular thug gun because they are so consealable.quiet an deadly at close ranges
@klesmer The majority of 22 handguns I have, and have ever fired sound like a 38, at the very least. From the rest of your comments here, you just tell people to "look it up" when the burden of proof is on you...stupid fucking kid.
@serverguy87 First of all I am not a stupid kid. I'll wager I have been shooting longer than you are old. If you think a .22 sounds lke a .38 you really need to have your hearing tested. The FBI report I read is a few years old but I don't think things have changed much. Did you watch the entire video? Did you see the penetration a .22 can produce? I personally know someone who was damn near killed and paralyzed for life by a .22 cal Raven. Ignore this caliber at your own peril.
@klesmer the mob used them for YEARS for hits! they were quiet, and small, and had enough power to penetrate the skull going in but not enough to exit, so it would stay in there and bounce around scrambling the brains. some people just dont think much of a .22. i would use it for certain things but not as a carry weapon
@tnshootingtimes Thank's for the moral support. You,hickok and iraquevet8888 and the two Canucks are my favorites. No BS,just facts. My Grandfather hunted with a .22 only and killed more deer than anyone I know. The FBI report I quoted may be a little dated but I think it is still relevent. These youtube experts all have magnumitis and have yet to learn shot placement is the key to everything. Look how many elephants Bell killed with a .303.
@05anonymous50@serverguy87 204 ft·lbf. thats the power of a .22 30 gr bullet. 393 ft·lbf.... 115 gr 9mm bullet. now just like logically think about that.... plus there is the fact that i could just go out and buy hundreds of .22's for under 100$ and a decent .22 rifle/pistol for ~100$.
that is true 2 ppl both shot in the head one with a 22 we will call him bob one with a 45 he is jim when jim is shot the bullet goes in his head comes out the other side there is not much hope to survive but there is hope the doc knows the bullet went here and here now bob the 22 went in one side of the skull but since is not as powerful cant go thru the other side of the skull it hits the skull from the inside but cant get out it rickasha and caulses more damage then 1 hole nd he die
look i really liked the video and i always watch all of them .. but tnoutdoors9 this videos wasnt well made as all of your other videos..anyways i really enjoy it..also ive to say ive a 38 revolver and a 7.65mm pistol the revolver has 6inch barrel and the pistol 4...and in some tests that ive done the pistol for some reason has more penetration power then the revolver...its just so hard to compare them..
Always choose the biggest caliber that you can control and safely eliminate a threat. (I mean safe for you and anyone behind your target.) For me, it is the 9mm. If you are a 90-year-old woman, go with the .22.
I have the bersa thunder .22 and everyone that see's and hears it thinks it is a 380. So it has the oh shit factor to the bad guys .... I shoot the mini mags i wouldnt want someone shooting at me with it!
Good video. I have tiny .25's and .22's that are light and easy to carry. My fear is shooting a large 300+ lbs guy in a self defense situation, and having him think a bee is stinging him. Good detailed video.
@madogblue I am a big guy "6' 1'' " and 13 inches is 3/4 of the way through my chest .... owe! So if you bee stung me 10 times im pretty sure im going down!
@MrSeankim5 I know what you mean. Obviously larger calibers are better for a lot of reasons, but I agree that for someone that is only comfortable with really small calibers it is a good option. I often thought that a great "SHTF / zombie" rifle for my teen son would be my $60 marlin 22, it holds 17 rounds in the tube magazine and never jams.
I think .22 is plenty powerful to get the job done. I carried a Jennings J-22 as a back up gun for a long time and still do when I go out for a jog or walk down the street. I grew up on a ranch and many of the farm animals that were butchered were shot with a .22 handgun or an old Stevens .22 single shot rifle, head shots from point blank range out to a few feet. Shooting through a skull of a 400 lbs hog and the bullet found in the spine. Is pretty Impressive! Great video thanks.
Very interesting video for I was not expecting theto bullet travel that far into the SIM-TEST. I know I would not want to get shot with a .22. As for self defense the way I look at it is if is the only gun someone has than it is better than not having one. Great video!
Very interesting video for I was not expecting theto bullet travel that far into the SIM-TEST. I know I would not want to get shot with a .22. As for self defense the way I look at it is if is the only gun someone has than it is better than not having one. Great video!
I've always said I would use a 22 for home defense, because if im shooting your teeth out of your head your are going to get stopped or really be thinking about stopping.
I really like to see the testing you are doing! Many have laughed at me for carrying a .22 LR for concealed carry on occasion, but you seem to prove what I have always said, its not so much the round as it is the shooter. Keep up the good work...
I don't have an NAA .22 but held one at a gun show yesterday. Yeah, that is essentially launching .22's with something resembling a thick credit card. Probably not a big difference in ballistics compared to a 3.5" barrel but accuracy would definitely be a factor. Then again, who knows. James Bond might be able to shoot "lights out" at 20 yds.
considering that your getting similar penetration from both a hollowpoint and a solid it seems to me that it would make more sence to go with a hollowpoint or a protected hollowpoint because if someone is cracked out of thier minds as is the case with many of the situations around my area i think i would rather have something that was going to expand and cause a bit more damage but thats just my personal opinion, and im not of age to carry yet so i may not be the best judge
I've worked a lot of shootings where someone was shot close range with 22 calibers, depending on where they were hit, some left, some didnt.......I certainly wouldnt feel unarmed carrying some of these 22 pistols we have on the market now.
I carry a Sig Saur mosquito around the house, but when I leave I like the extra assurance of my Smith and Wesson feather weight with 38 special +P 156 grain hard cast.
Very dangerous gun to use as a carry of even home defense. If it's an FMJ the bullet under most circumstances will go thru the first target and unfortunately hit the innocent bystander behind them. Not sure if thats what is meant here, but if so then I would suggest the HP. Much safer round.
If somebody shoots me and the bullet goes 13 inches into my body, I'm done for the day. I will immediately lose interest in burglarizing your home, mugging you, raping your daughter, or whichever of my actions offended you, and head for the nearest ER. The fact that the bullet was a .22 and not a .45 will not factor into my decision.
@ConfederateHandjob Being from the UK, I have been hit by several small, fast-moving things (stones, glass fragments, bits of metal) over my working life (firefighter). Most of them made me stop what I was doing immediately and seek first aid assistance. None of these objects penetrated my protective clothing far enough to be dangerous but most hurt like hell. Unless your burglar/assailant is on drugs, I think your point is well made and perfectly valid.
@s10m0t10n Thanks. As a firefighter you have my greatest respect. I think that even if my assailant is on drugs the damage the .22 does to him will impair his effectiveness, and that increases with every round. A guy I went to high school with was killed by a single .22 bullet in the body. It damaged almost all of his major organs and he bled to death. I wasn't there but I expect he gave up on the fight he was in when the .22 hit him.
@ConfederateHandjob a .22 could mess you up more than a .45. Ive shot 2 animals with a 45lc multiple times before they stopped moving and have dropped several animals where they stood my .22.
@ConfederateHandjob If under the influance of a strong drug or strongly motivated that could change things. Your typical thug will cowar at the first signs of armed resistance. I have always beleived that having a 22 is better than nothing. I love my SR22 its cheap fun but I still carry a 1911
@Dietzeeeee I understand that bigger is better, I am just saying that a well-handled .22 is more than adequate. The bullet in the video tumbled which will do massive internal damage, so it won't matter how crazy or high they are. And that's just the first round.
Which is a different scenario from someone high on drugs, psychotic, or in a lot of cases; doesn't even know that they're hit. Many times in a self-defense situation an attacker must be forced to quit, not simply convinced to quit the latter of which is what you seem to be talking about.
@malignantpoodle I think the damage the bullet causes tumbling through his internal organs or brain will force them to quit. A bullet that behaves like the one in the video will cause massive internal damage, which is going slow if not stop an attacker no matter how high or crazy they are. And that's just the first bullet you put into them.
Now you're talking about 2 different things. One where the attacker suffers massive damage and is forced to quit, previously it was deciding to quit.
Yes the round tumbles and has good penetration. It also has a very tiny path and zero expansion, almost like a pinhole. Even a direct hit on a major organ might not stop a dedicated attacker.
@ConfederateHandjob Also, I'd like to know what kind of burglar could withstand 13 inches of penetration to their cranium.
I know that the skull isnt flesh through and through, but a .22 is still enough to bounce around the inside of the head and make scrambled mush of the brain.
@lIIustration well yes, Im sure that most people would, but not everyone has a 9mm. I have a Ruger 10-22 by my bed loaded with 10 CCI stinger hollowpoints. The best self defense weapon? No, but it beats my maglite, baseball bat, and cold steel spartan.
My only complaint with a .22 as self defense is the harsh recoil.
ddrumma3 2 hours ago
15" to 13"...very little penetration loss between a 3.5" barrel and 18.5" barrel...hmm
COLT45keith 6 hours ago
I carry a Walther P22 Target Military. My Ammo? CCI 40 gr Mini-Mag.
cbond99 1 day ago
You can validate 3 people dead, 3 people wounded with 10 shots fired in the latest incident that doesn't need to be named.
FlagrantAvidity 3 days ago
How about 60 grain sniper subsonics? Do they function in semi-autos?
glennwih 6 days ago
Is that a serial number? WTF?
glennwih 6 days ago
the round is this most under estimated there is , yes it lack knock down.. but it doesn't not lack penitaition
767dag 6 days ago
Here's the thing, nothing "happens on the street." Self-defense is generally nothing but theory only, as so called "self-defense" weapons are almost never used to shoot anyone. They provide some sort of psychological satisfaction that's described as "self-defense," but is usually no more than justification for toting around lethal toys that guys dig.
That said, I have a pistol and enjoy shooting it at the range. No need for "self-defense" explanations.
kensimmonsmba 1 week ago
@kensimmonsmba After being ambushed at knife point and thinking my time was up, i gave some serious thought as to how to protect myself, especially as i am much older. Luckily for me America allows me to protect myself and my family when no help is near, which is nearly always the case when bad things happen. Psychological? Yes. Comforting? Yes. Still alive? Yes.
bonsa100 4 days ago
@kensimmonsmba You've never been put in a situation when you would want something for self defense. Granted most of us don't run into those situations in our life, I have, and that is why I have something for "self-defense". It's not a toy, and I don't treat it as such. By your logic, police just want to look cool. Because of course "self-defense" is just justification of toting our big toys. If you are ever in a situation that makes you wish you had a "big toy", your mind would change.
BrandonStover 4 days ago
i thought that a handgun spring is stronger how can a 22 lr bullet blowback the slide
DonutVIP 1 week ago
@DonutVIP go fuck yourself you stupid cod player, the gases from inside the barrel bloback the slide Not the bullet or the recoil that has nothing to do with it,
steezyskiier1 1 week ago in playlist .22 Rimfire
@steezyskiier1 will lets i dont talk about cod shit and hate those game as much as you so take your time and said shit i fucking hated to im trying to learn more you dumb fuck
DonutVIP 1 week ago
@DonutVIP oh thats weird because i just looked at your channel and whatdo u know! your subscribed to all gamers (i looked at sum of their channels) your favorite video is "top ten scariest moments of gamers" and your history (comments subs likes) are all gaming videos and airsoft!
steezyskiier1 1 week ago
I would only voluntarily carry a .22 if I did not own anything more appropriate. If you do a Google search for "Terminal Ballistics as Viewed in a Morgue" you can find some really interesting reading about what a morgue worker recommends.
dbuschhorn 1 week ago
rule of thumb shoot the biggest caliber you can quickly reliably put rounds reliably on target in a high stress situation .22 - .50 doesn't matter as long as you can hit what you're aiming at it'll give the bad guy a bad day.
Berelore 1 week ago
That being said, if it can't instantly put a squirrel down, I am pretty sure a human could take a few shots even in the chest and just keep coming. Just not enough there without hollowpoints.
Even then its questionable. Remember, if your in a shoot situation you want to stop the threat, and why count on a .22 to do it when you can carry a .380 thats the same size with x10 the power?
testy462 1 week ago
I can tell you that shooting out of my 10/22, at less than 10 yards, I have had at least 2 shots on squirrel with the exact ammo your using (FMJ) and not gotten a kill with a chest shot, both I had to find in the tree they ran up and tag them again.
After this I switched to only lead nose or hollow point shots. What I saw on the tree rat's were little tiny holes all the way thru, with no damage. Switching to lead nose (even cb shorts) and hollow points resulted in instant kills.
testy462 1 week ago
thanks for the info !!!! it answered a few questions and got my dummy neighbor to shot the front door!!!
MrTulypan 1 week ago
The suitability of a pistol for self defense HAS TO depend on it's likely USE. For the average citizen, in the average circumstance, the truth is that a 22 is PLENTY (well, for carry that is, not for home defense--where a person has ALREADY DEMONSTRATED he's willing to force his way into your home).
The reason it's plenty for general circumstances is that virtually ALL bad guys will run as fast as they can at the FIRST SIGHT of the gun--much less the first shot. All others get a headshot.
GetMeThere1 1 week ago
Use Sniper sub sonic by Aguila 60Grain Don't know how fast them suckers are going but out of a NNA 22LR at 3 feet with a 1.5 in barrel it impacted the phone book stack went threw 3 in and turned sideways making it close to the impact of my 380 cal... Somewhere near a 32 cal and surpassed a 25 cal round. It made damage past 5 inches without penetration. It was much better than any stinger or other "high powered round" The weight really helps. Crazy looking round.
kd5tdb 1 week ago
no rifling marks on that 22 bullet???
madmike3181 1 week ago
@madmike3181
Friend of mine found that bullet on a hospital gurney in Dallas back in '63.
Seriously, there are marks on it; they show up better on a larger screen. I've noticed a great lack of detail viewing videos on an IPhone, etc. Not certain how you were viewing it, but the type of device does impact detail, and these vids are a high quality 1080p HD.
tnoutdoors9 1 week ago
I would carry a .22 if it was loaded with Aguila Super Max or Winchester Varmint HE
scandmx5atl 1 week ago
against someone stoned on pcp? no. Against a normal person yes. But if there not on drugs It probably doesn't matter what caliber it is they will probably run.
o7oo7 2 weeks ago
Nobody will ever convince the bigger is better crowd about acceptable personal defense calibers
here or any where. However the 22 LR FMJ penetrates about as deep as all the calibers that are Gold Dot JHP. About 12 inches. Any body hit in the heart by 22FMJ LR will simply die in about 15 seconds. So any one choosing to lug around a 3 lb 45 or 44 magnum 16 hours a day 365 days a year, have at it. FMJ and shot placement makes the difference. 380 FMJ will do one just fine, even a 22LRFMJ works.
surfside006 2 weeks ago
The first rule of a gun fight is to have a gun. A 22 that you have with you is significantly better than a 45 that is at home because it is uncomfortable to carry.
Hobgoblin4350 2 weeks ago
Anyone who doesn't think .22 is enough really needs to google the VA Tech Shootings.
NatePlaysMM 2 weeks ago
todo el q ha disparado con un 22 sabe que buscando las zonas blandas la bala una ves dentro reota como una peloa de ping-pong!!! eso la hace mas efectiva que los calibres grandes. Ya lo se que no tiene el mismo poder de parada pero es mas efectiva.
ioanclaudiuszabo 2 weeks ago
el 22 usandolo bien hace mucho daño en una persona, mas que el 9mm o el 45 .
ioanclaudiuszabo 2 weeks ago
The .22 lr is under rated by tactical elitist. No it isn't my first or fifth choice but, it does kill.
flashider556 2 weeks ago
To separate the crazies from common sense,you are more likely to be strike by lightening than needing to shoot a bad guy?assuming you stay out of ghetto neighborhoods and late hour convenience stores? EDC of light gun makes more sense than a 3Lb 45. The 22 or 380 will serve you just fine. I been held up and didn't need to shoot the bad guy,he ran away, and years as Cop and Sheriff never shot any one at all. The 22 will do just fine, I carry EDC a 380 S&W and FMJ suits me just fine. 22 is safe.
surfside006 2 weeks ago
id use it for self defense.....
MoparMania980 2 weeks ago
40gr solid... we're not worried about over penetration or breakup of the projectile so the benefits of a HP don't translate. With .22LR we are trading energy and depth for better shot placement.
As such the approach to defense with a .22LR must be different. Sufficient penetration to damage the CNS is unlikely, barring multiple rounds to the ocular-cranial cavity. The only other option to incapacitate is to open a major artery to induce shock from blood loss. Hence one must train differently.
silvermediastudio 2 weeks ago
its better than a stick..
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I only use .22lr for plinking. I recently picked up some 60grain .22lr made by aguilera, I bought it just because it was subsonic (quieter) and it was the heaviest .22lr I've seen. Personally for concealed carry 9x19 is my bottom, but, the caliber doesn't matter if you don't hit your target. WAY too many people carry very light 9mm's & .40S&W's but never spend any range time with it. IMO the best carry weapon is the most powerful cal. that you can carry comfortably and shoot accurately
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RPXXPR 2 weeks ago
In terms of power its not very strong but still better then pepper spray. My only issue is ammo. I would probably stick to premium grade match ammo to insure funtion. This is probably the best review I've seen regarding a rimfire for self defense. With 25acp, 17hmr, and other odd smallbore chambering for handguns you should avoid getting lost in determineing expansion since they don't really penetrate much when they don't expand. For these Calibers penetration is more import then expansion.
smartguy104 3 weeks ago
My bersa 23 is 100% reliable with minimags or blazer, and after seeing this video, no qualms about using 22 edc.
steamtorch 3 weeks ago
The only reason i wouldnt carry a .22 is because the winter jackets and layers worn around here. Just my preference. What a nice ankle gun, though.
airic554 3 weeks ago
@airic554 (carhartt) lol
airic554 3 weeks ago
.22 is not as powerful as a 45., .380, but it's still a live round. Any firearm is dangerous and can kill
beastyguns 3 weeks ago 22
@beastyguns indeed the .22 was the choice of assasins becuase the .22 would enter the brain cavity and would have enough velocity left to escape meaning it would just ricochet around in the cavity till it stopped.
Si3z3 2 weeks ago
In my personal opinion, i prefer larger caliber for self defense, but hey if you shoot 10 rnds of this 40gr into the head/lungs/heart.. the threat will be neutralized. Or at least incapacitated to get away to save yourself. Would I choose it for my number one.. No. .40s&w is my first choice. But this ammo is so low recoil, and you can be so pinpoint accurate with it.. if YOU do YOUR job will shot placement.. you will walk out alive, and I am a firm believer in that.
OMGitsMalcolm 3 weeks ago 14
@OMGitsMalcolm You said exactly what i was thinking. That is pretty good expansion on those bullets shown in the video as well, i definately wouldnet want that hitting me.
OEFvet1986 1 week ago
@tnoutdoors9 (or anyone with valid opinion) - How about 40 grain mini mag round vs 40 grain velocitor hollow for defense? Think the higher speed of the velocitor will give it equal/similar penetration?
CHarrisImaging 3 weeks ago
I use a Heritage Arms 22 mag Western Style Pistol with a CCI 22 mag hollow point. I love the results I get. We hunt small hogs in Louisiana with 22 magnum (Bolt action rifle.). Very effective with hogs from 150 to 200 pounds. I use the CCI 22 mini mag for small game, coons, rabbits, squirrels. It is a better built rounds than the Winchester or Remington rounds in my personal opinion. I enjoyed your review, thanks for the info.
jerryt602 3 weeks ago
I'm not really comfortable with anybody and everybody being armed to the teeth in public places, but I think having low penetration is the single most important feature. A bullet's a bullet, and no matter what it will stop an attacker. If not, fire more. The problem can be if the bullet leaves the target and continues at a decent speed.
BlurredFace 3 weeks ago
speaking from a womens point of view, a 22 is best, less recoil for her to handle
Thylovely4you 3 weeks ago
@Thylovely4you try the FN five seven you will love it!
TigerG2 3 weeks ago
i really like that pistol, and yea if i was in the states i would get one
Thylovely4you 3 weeks ago
That did a better than i would have expected in the ballistic gel.
DrDaveArson 3 weeks ago
the last wild pig i shot was with a ruger 10/22. shot placement is key though with any light cartridge & a self defense situation is never like an afternoon at the air-conditioned range in front of a peice of paper. the target usually isn't moving, isn't high on meth, isn't wearing a leather jacket, doesn't have a rib-cage or skull to penetrate, isn't hiding behind a door, & isn't shooting back. a more powerful cartridge will help you maximize the imperfect shots you may be forced to take.
yz9890 3 weeks ago
@yz9890 i prefer to make my own bullets for the 10/22, my favorite has a steel perpetrator in the center.
WaagooshTheRedFox 3 weeks ago
good explanation
thanks
kiddyuknot 3 weeks ago
i love the high velocity hollow point .22 rounds from remmington.
i have a box right here, remmington .22 longrifle brass plated hollow points. i buy them in bulk of 525 bullets a box at about $20 a box. they go great with my 10/22 and my MK I, accurate at 100 yards out of my 10/22 and have the stopping power of a bull at 10 to 25 yards, especially since the ammo hits but wont over penetrate.
WaagooshTheRedFox 3 weeks ago
@WaagooshTheRedFox Your ammo is your ammo, but if i may:
I used to use remington as well for my 10/22 and mk3. However, I found a more consistent brand. if i may recommend the federal bulk pack (same price), You should really give it a shot (no pun intended)
Saigax12 3 weeks ago
@Saigax12 ill look into them, sounds like it may have better quality.
WaagooshTheRedFox 3 weeks ago
boy, where does the compromise end? if it's the only thing you can shoot accurately/quickly then sure. but some of you guys will compromise your SD down to a pocket full of pebbles just so you can feel good about buying a cheap gun or ammo.
yz9890 3 weeks ago
@yz9890 With all do respect, 22lr hurts a tad more than pebbles.
You see, the best gun a shooter has is the one he uses most. Given the cost of .45 and .223, i train with my 22s more, because thats what i can afford to do. Therefore, I would much rather bring those to a fight because I can control them much more effectively than the other calibers. I feel good knowing I can use my primary and secondary, even if they are just .22's.
The BEST tactical accessory is 10k rounds of experience.
Saigax12 3 weeks ago
@Saigax12 of course it hurts more than pebbles. you've got to balance bullet effectiveness with control and a 22 is out of balance. if that's all a person can shoot effectively than that's what they should carry. practice with a 22 is a great idea and its also extemely easy and affordable to transfer what you've learned to a more capable SD cartridge. i love 22's. they get the bulk of my range time as well. then i take what i learn and apply it to my more powerful SD handguns.
yz9890 3 weeks ago
easy to understand and thorough.
lunarmation 3 weeks ago
I wouldn't trust a .22 only because of reliability, if it was a centerfire cartridge I'd probably consider it. After all .223 is just a overpowered centerfire .22 and it's extremely good at putting people down. Though the bullets themselves may have a different shape to them.
killatony35 4 weeks ago
I like this guy, he's very non-biased and knows whats he's talking about.
I won't use a .22lr in a semi for SD unless I really needed too. Rim fire+auto doesn't always give the best reliability for SD. I agree with Peidmonte89 on the .22 mag DA revolver, that would seem to be a decent SD gun, namely as a backup.
I will, however, fell alot most comfortable with a .22 auto for SD them my FN .25 auto. Although my .25 is very reliable, the round wouldn't penetrate a old washing machine sheetmetel
M1911A1 4 weeks ago
its genius to use small calibers, cuz you can carry maybe 1000 rounds with you! ofcourse its not a big powerful bullet but im sure one bullet is enogh to take down many peoples!
MrSpy3000 4 weeks ago
I dont carry a .22 lr semi-auto. Not that its weak I just dont like using rimfire in semi auto platform. I do have a .22 Mag snubby I carry it on occasion with 40 gr CCI Maxi Mags. If I was gonna carry a .22 LR it would probably be in the Taurus 94 snubby. You'll have a more reliable gun and 9 shots. Not too bad for a .22 ccw. Still my bare minimums are the .32 acp and .22 Mag in FMJ loads. I mostly carry my .380 with Hydra-Shoks or Hornaday Critical defense. If not its my 9mm with gold sabers.
Peidmonte89 4 weeks ago
Im with you Yugo, I wouldnt want to be on the recieving end of it either!
ThemightyVille 4 weeks ago
I certainly wouldn't want to be shot by .22 LR.
yugozastava13 4 weeks ago
a .22 is better than a sharp stick
StatenIslandPrepper 4 weeks ago
You should do the Col. Cooper load.
45acp, 200gr hardcast SWC, 7-7.5gr of unique powder.
I'd be interested to see this contrasted against popular defensive loads of today, as I've shot it a lot and carried it a lot.
skyhop 4 weeks ago
the video length is 5.56... just like the bullets!!!
aeirodynamics 4 weeks ago
I own all kinds of guns. A 22.cal will safe your life.
ARTOFWAR2008 4 weeks ago
NAA MAKES THOSE .22 LR AND .22 MAG MINI REVOVLERS. WHAT WOULD BE THE VELOCITY ON ONE OF THOSE USING AGUILA WHICH IS RATED 1,750 FPS MOST LIKELY FROM A RIFLE.
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WHY NOT USE .22 LR STINGER HP OR SEGMENTED HP OR BETTER YET 30 GRAIN AGUILA HP OR SOLID POINT?
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I say there's only one way to settle this. One of you that doubts the .22 should make a video where you let somebody shoot you with a .22 so we can see how it effects you. You might want to get really high on drugs before you try it since being high apparently makes you bullet proof and immune to massive internal injuries.
ConfederateHandjob 1 month ago
I say there's only one way to settle this. One of you that doubts the .22 should make a video where you let somebody shoot you with a .22 so we can see how it effects you. You might want to get really high on drugs before you try it since being high apparently makes you bullet proof and immune to massive internal injuries.
ConfederateHandjob 1 month ago
Is that Plastic?
cjerp 1 month ago
@cjerp Probably polymer with a metal slide, like all the Glocks.
gymkhanadog 1 month ago
@gymkhanadog Uh, that's a ruger, not a glock.
0rganDon0r 1 month ago
@0rganDon0r I know. I was offering a relation to polymer-constructed weapons (instead of 'plastic'), and Glocks are the most well known "plastic" handgun IMO that people can relate to. That's why I denoted "... all the Glocks." instead of "... like all Glocks."
gymkhanadog 1 month ago
4 pacifists watched this video.
z10Indie 1 month ago
i tried theese there nice out of a box of 100 i had 3 jam but that could be the gun
deadlock742 1 month ago
I've always thought the .22LR would be a fine round for defense. My main rason being that it IS easy to control and you CAN put a lot of rounds on target very quickly. While the little rounds won't make a big crush/stretch cavity, they DO poke holes in organs and that's what is important. I also find it amusing that those whould would bash a .22LR praise buckshot....think about it :)
gotindrachenhart 1 month ago
I don't really think that energy play's much of a part in a bullets effectiveness in most cases. the .30-06 vs the .25-06 is a good example. the .30-60 hands down has more energy but the .25-06 kills a deer just as well. both get the bullet where it needs to get to do it's job and thats all that really matters.
scoobydoo6906 1 month ago
OUTSTANDING!
19brandon66 1 month ago
Would sombody mind telling me the mathematical formula to calculate distance per second of a bullet and what i should look for on gun and bullet specs?
MrINEEDNAME 1 month ago
@MrINEEDNAME everybody is going to tell you something different but I'll give you my take. my opinion comes from one shot stop data and my hunting experiences. my criteria for handgun self defense loads are at least 12 inches of penetration and reliable expansion form that load. my favorite load in 9mm is speer gold dot 125gr +P or federal hst 147gr. my minimum is .380acp/.38spl. In general if the bullet pushes past 12" when expanded and is .30 caliber or larger you are in good shape.
scoobydoo6906 1 month ago
@MrINEEDNAME google basic ballistics or calculations of bullet muzzle velocities. i have tried several times to copy and paste a couple of links to you, but apparently youtube wont let me
tnshootingtimes 4 weeks ago
I myself wouldn't use a .22lr for defense. My sole reason is it's a rimfire and reliability can be questionable.
scoobydoo6906 1 month ago
13 would go straight through me lol
rkb12222 1 month ago
NICE HITS.
Dakamum 1 month ago
That was helpful. Thank you.
HillbillyPrepperGals 1 month ago
Nasty wee penetrator! not much of an impactor though
LPtheDESTROYER 1 month ago
@LPtheDESTROYER .22LR has been successfully used as a sniper rifle ammunition and can definitely be lethal. Look at graphs showing what various bullets do in a human body. You'll see that speed of impact becomes a factor with high velocity rifle ammunition. Pistol ammunition that doesn't exceed the speed of sound will not expand so much when hitting a target.
grawling 1 month ago
@grawling I understand exactly the lathality of the cartridge, and wouldnt deny it! I realise that slower moving projectiles do not tend to expand wuch on impact as opposed to much faster moving equivalents do. I find 220 grain 7.62 fmjs loaded in the 39 cartridge extremely effective surpressed, as they penetrate deep, and are extremely quiet subsonic. Excellent work by the way, Good job!
LPtheDESTROYER 1 month ago
Take for instance the stories coming from the war zones in the sandbox. Some diaper heads are high on drugs and it takes multiple rounds from a 5.56 to anchor them. I'm not hearing any stories of more than one shot from a .50 cal to anchor their drugged up behinds.
Larger caliber =more energy.
sirtango1 1 month ago
Reporter: Why do you carry a .45?
Gen. George S. Patton: Because they don't make a 46.
This quote was also attributed to a Texas ranger.
You also have to account for liability. Now days criminals file suit and sometimes win even after they are convicted of breaking and entering / burglary, etc.
A dead man cant testify or file suit. If you only hit the criminal one time, he is far more likely to bleed out from a larger caliber wound than a small caliber wound.
sirtango1 1 month ago
oh yea i forgot to tell you i'm only 10 and i have never shot a gun.
alexmrgn14 1 month ago
I don't think a 22lr is enough of a round for SD, concidering larger calibers take several shots to stop a determind attacker less a well placed heart shot. That being said shot placement is important but since few of us are hardend killers heart and head shots on moving targets when you're scared and adernaline pumping is difficult at best. No matter what arm chair commandos and CoD players say.
BeholdtheMightySpoon 1 month ago
According to the FBI, there are more people killed with .22 and.25cal. rounds than all other caliber's combined.
klesmer 1 month ago
@klesmer You're full of it. Source or it's a lie. Pretty sure more people SURVIVE being hit with a 22 than are killed with a 22.
serverguy87 1 month ago
@serverguy87 so if i go up to you and shoot you point blank with my entire 10 round magazine in the center of your chest. you'll live? didnt think so, thats how most crimes happen, thug walks right infront of a guy, then pulls out his .22, and unloads onto his chest or head.
ToAstYNaChO 1 month ago
@ToAstYNaChO Most "thugs" don't know how to shoot. That is why bystanders are shot most of the time.
serverguy87 1 month ago
@serverguy87 Get off your lazy ass and look it up. .22's and '25's are the most popular thug gun because they are so consealable.quiet an deadly at close ranges
klesmer 1 month ago
@klesmer The majority of 22 handguns I have, and have ever fired sound like a 38, at the very least. From the rest of your comments here, you just tell people to "look it up" when the burden of proof is on you...stupid fucking kid.
serverguy87 4 weeks ago
@serverguy87 First of all I am not a stupid kid. I'll wager I have been shooting longer than you are old. If you think a .22 sounds lke a .38 you really need to have your hearing tested. The FBI report I read is a few years old but I don't think things have changed much. Did you watch the entire video? Did you see the penetration a .22 can produce? I personally know someone who was damn near killed and paralyzed for life by a .22 cal Raven. Ignore this caliber at your own peril.
klesmer 4 weeks ago
@klesmer Yep, I'm a deaf retarded child. You got that right! :)
Troll.
serverguy87 4 weeks ago
@serverguy87 At least you know your limitations.
klesmer 4 weeks ago
@klesmer the mob used them for YEARS for hits! they were quiet, and small, and had enough power to penetrate the skull going in but not enough to exit, so it would stay in there and bounce around scrambling the brains. some people just dont think much of a .22. i would use it for certain things but not as a carry weapon
tnshootingtimes 4 weeks ago
@tnshootingtimes Thank's for the moral support. You,hickok and iraquevet8888 and the two Canucks are my favorites. No BS,just facts. My Grandfather hunted with a .22 only and killed more deer than anyone I know. The FBI report I quoted may be a little dated but I think it is still relevent. These youtube experts all have magnumitis and have yet to learn shot placement is the key to everything. Look how many elephants Bell killed with a .303.
klesmer 4 weeks ago
@klesmer Thats a load of crap.
05anonymous50 1 month ago
@05anonymous50 @serverguy87 204 ft·lbf. thats the power of a .22 30 gr bullet. 393 ft·lbf.... 115 gr 9mm bullet. now just like logically think about that.... plus there is the fact that i could just go out and buy hundreds of .22's for under 100$ and a decent .22 rifle/pistol for ~100$.
TheKoolAidMan5000 1 month ago
@05anonymous50 Look it up.
klesmer 1 month ago
@klesmer
that is true 2 ppl both shot in the head one with a 22 we will call him bob one with a 45 he is jim when jim is shot the bullet goes in his head comes out the other side there is not much hope to survive but there is hope the doc knows the bullet went here and here now bob the 22 went in one side of the skull but since is not as powerful cant go thru the other side of the skull it hits the skull from the inside but cant get out it rickasha and caulses more damage then 1 hole nd he die
jameshdfliSBDHVbshdv 1 month ago
You are correct in going for penetrating solids rather than hollowpoints for a caliber this small.
pinkstickynote1 1 month ago
look i really liked the video and i always watch all of them .. but tnoutdoors9 this videos wasnt well made as all of your other videos..anyways i really enjoy it..also ive to say ive a 38 revolver and a 7.65mm pistol the revolver has 6inch barrel and the pistol 4...and in some tests that ive done the pistol for some reason has more penetration power then the revolver...its just so hard to compare them..
jtdc86 1 month ago
is there anyway i can get a cheap, effective M1911 as a .22 caliber?
USSWISCONSIN64 1 month ago
Always choose the biggest caliber that you can control and safely eliminate a threat. (I mean safe for you and anyone behind your target.) For me, it is the 9mm. If you are a 90-year-old woman, go with the .22.
lonetreetechy 1 month ago
all your videos are awesome, but this one is the best. i can't stop watching it!!!!
beastyguns 1 month ago 2
I have the bersa thunder .22 and everyone that see's and hears it thinks it is a 380. So it has the oh shit factor to the bad guys .... I shoot the mini mags i wouldnt want someone shooting at me with it!
MrSeankim5 1 month ago
That Gun Is SEXY AS HELL
kardevian6 1 month ago
Good video. I have tiny .25's and .22's that are light and easy to carry. My fear is shooting a large 300+ lbs guy in a self defense situation, and having him think a bee is stinging him. Good detailed video.
madogblue 1 month ago
@madogblue I am a big guy "6' 1'' " and 13 inches is 3/4 of the way through my chest .... owe! So if you bee stung me 10 times im pretty sure im going down!
MrSeankim5 1 month ago
@MrSeankim5 I know what you mean. Obviously larger calibers are better for a lot of reasons, but I agree that for someone that is only comfortable with really small calibers it is a good option. I often thought that a great "SHTF / zombie" rifle for my teen son would be my $60 marlin 22, it holds 17 rounds in the tube magazine and never jams.
madogblue 1 month ago
thats a beautiful gun
kbz1231 1 month ago
i really think that it is sutible for self defence a well placed shot will take some1 down.
deuceduecea1 1 month ago
I think .22 is plenty powerful to get the job done. I carried a Jennings J-22 as a back up gun for a long time and still do when I go out for a jog or walk down the street. I grew up on a ranch and many of the farm animals that were butchered were shot with a .22 handgun or an old Stevens .22 single shot rifle, head shots from point blank range out to a few feet. Shooting through a skull of a 400 lbs hog and the bullet found in the spine. Is pretty Impressive! Great video thanks.
Shootinfun2012 1 month ago
on a scale from 1 to 10 how much kick back does it have
alexmrgn14 1 month ago
@alexmrgn14
are... you being serious...
THEweskiller 1 month ago
good info, but i still believe in my good old .45 acp...
lordjhon76 1 month ago
great now i have to look for @killahjeep comment
thercpoop 1 month ago
SR22P Pistol nubs.
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Very interesting video for I was not expecting theto bullet travel that far into the SIM-TEST. I know I would not want to get shot with a .22. As for self defense the way I look at it is if is the only gun someone has than it is better than not having one. Great video!
xtremearmor 1 month ago
Very interesting video for I was not expecting theto bullet travel that far into the SIM-TEST. I know I would not want to get shot with a .22. As for self defense the way I look at it is if is the only gun someone has than it is better than not having one. Great video!
xtremearmor 1 month ago
I've always said I would use a 22 for home defense, because if im shooting your teeth out of your head your are going to get stopped or really be thinking about stopping.
outfast94 1 month ago
I really like to see the testing you are doing! Many have laughed at me for carrying a .22 LR for concealed carry on occasion, but you seem to prove what I have always said, its not so much the round as it is the shooter. Keep up the good work...
RJbell5 1 month ago
HA the length of your vid is 556.
manogmin 1 month ago
I'd like to see ballistic tests done through an NAA .22, that would really be the absolute bottom floor of firearms self defense.
GUNGhoGUNguy 1 month ago
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I don't have an NAA .22 but held one at a gun show yesterday. Yeah, that is essentially launching .22's with something resembling a thick credit card. Probably not a big difference in ballistics compared to a 3.5" barrel but accuracy would definitely be a factor. Then again, who knows. James Bond might be able to shoot "lights out" at 20 yds.
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@GUNGhoGUNguy no actually; a knife or your barehands would be the bottom floor. you americans are so dumb you only think GUNS.
"GET ME A GUN SO I CAN GO OUT AND KILL FUCK YA I WANNA SEE SOME BLOOD"
AfrikaaBombeetza 1 month ago
considering that your getting similar penetration from both a hollowpoint and a solid it seems to me that it would make more sence to go with a hollowpoint or a protected hollowpoint because if someone is cracked out of thier minds as is the case with many of the situations around my area i think i would rather have something that was going to expand and cause a bit more damage but thats just my personal opinion, and im not of age to carry yet so i may not be the best judge
nccamokid 1 month ago
The pistol looks alots like a Walther P-22.
sailwed1 1 month ago in playlist .22 Rimfire
What I really wish is that they made high capacity .22 pistols. 20 - 30 rounds.
XCritonX 1 month ago
@XCritonX Closest thing I can think of is the Keltec PM30 but that's 22Mag.
Gavin1082 1 month ago in playlist .22 Rimfire
.22 are 5 cents i guess the unit, pretty cheap
vRGamingx 1 month ago
man i hope i can shoot like you one day. great video btw
american1992KB 1 month ago in playlist .22 Rimfire
I've worked a lot of shootings where someone was shot close range with 22 calibers, depending on where they were hit, some left, some didnt.......I certainly wouldnt feel unarmed carrying some of these 22 pistols we have on the market now.
AgentHunk007 1 month ago
I carry a Sig Saur mosquito around the house, but when I leave I like the extra assurance of my Smith and Wesson feather weight with 38 special +P 156 grain hard cast.
reloaderguy35 1 month ago
Very dangerous gun to use as a carry of even home defense. If it's an FMJ the bullet under most circumstances will go thru the first target and unfortunately hit the innocent bystander behind them. Not sure if thats what is meant here, but if so then I would suggest the HP. Much safer round.
CheapChizzlinMooch 1 month ago
If somebody shoots me and the bullet goes 13 inches into my body, I'm done for the day. I will immediately lose interest in burglarizing your home, mugging you, raping your daughter, or whichever of my actions offended you, and head for the nearest ER. The fact that the bullet was a .22 and not a .45 will not factor into my decision.
ConfederateHandjob 1 month ago 46
@ConfederateHandjob Speak for yourself, not the burlgar
24Rorschach 1 month ago
@ConfederateHandjob Being from the UK, I have been hit by several small, fast-moving things (stones, glass fragments, bits of metal) over my working life (firefighter). Most of them made me stop what I was doing immediately and seek first aid assistance. None of these objects penetrated my protective clothing far enough to be dangerous but most hurt like hell. Unless your burglar/assailant is on drugs, I think your point is well made and perfectly valid.
s10m0t10n 1 month ago
@s10m0t10n Thanks. As a firefighter you have my greatest respect. I think that even if my assailant is on drugs the damage the .22 does to him will impair his effectiveness, and that increases with every round. A guy I went to high school with was killed by a single .22 bullet in the body. It damaged almost all of his major organs and he bled to death. I wasn't there but I expect he gave up on the fight he was in when the .22 hit him.
ConfederateHandjob 1 month ago
@ConfederateHandjob a .22 could mess you up more than a .45. Ive shot 2 animals with a 45lc multiple times before they stopped moving and have dropped several animals where they stood my .22.
goodinsrt8 1 month ago
@ConfederateHandjob If under the influance of a strong drug or strongly motivated that could change things. Your typical thug will cowar at the first signs of armed resistance. I have always beleived that having a 22 is better than nothing. I love my SR22 its cheap fun but I still carry a 1911
Dietzeeeee 1 month ago
@Dietzeeeee I understand that bigger is better, I am just saying that a well-handled .22 is more than adequate. The bullet in the video tumbled which will do massive internal damage, so it won't matter how crazy or high they are. And that's just the first round.
ConfederateHandjob 1 month ago
@ConfederateHandjob
Which is a different scenario from someone high on drugs, psychotic, or in a lot of cases; doesn't even know that they're hit. Many times in a self-defense situation an attacker must be forced to quit, not simply convinced to quit the latter of which is what you seem to be talking about.
malignantpoodle 1 month ago
@malignantpoodle I think the damage the bullet causes tumbling through his internal organs or brain will force them to quit. A bullet that behaves like the one in the video will cause massive internal damage, which is going slow if not stop an attacker no matter how high or crazy they are. And that's just the first bullet you put into them.
ConfederateHandjob 1 month ago
@ConfederateHandjob
Now you're talking about 2 different things. One where the attacker suffers massive damage and is forced to quit, previously it was deciding to quit.
Yes the round tumbles and has good penetration. It also has a very tiny path and zero expansion, almost like a pinhole. Even a direct hit on a major organ might not stop a dedicated attacker.
malignantpoodle 1 month ago
@ConfederateHandjob Also, I'd like to know what kind of burglar could withstand 13 inches of penetration to their cranium.
I know that the skull isnt flesh through and through, but a .22 is still enough to bounce around the inside of the head and make scrambled mush of the brain.
ErikThePieMan 1 month ago
@ConfederateHandjob What if they're high on drugs?
lIIustration 1 month ago
@lIIustration Most magazines hold more then one round. lets say 10. hopefully you can hit the lungs or heart or even head with those rounds.
Natedaschoolboy 1 month ago
@Natedaschoolboy I'd prefer using 9mm double tap to the body.
lIIustration 1 month ago
@lIIustration well yes, Im sure that most people would, but not everyone has a 9mm. I have a Ruger 10-22 by my bed loaded with 10 CCI stinger hollowpoints. The best self defense weapon? No, but it beats my maglite, baseball bat, and cold steel spartan.
Natedaschoolboy 1 month ago 2
@Natedaschoolboy I live in Canada. I can't even punch a burglar without him suing me... =[
lIIustration 1 month ago