Milk Fed Veal raising

[GODBLESSAMERICA71]

Only a country of pussies where 90% of the population has to live within 100 miles of my great country The United States of America because of the protection we provide would make a video about the raising of baby cows that are going to savagely have their heads chopped off for food look like a day at the petting zoo. Have a nice day assholes!

[sprinklypancakes]

moo! aw i love baby cows :) But actually most of them are taken away from their mother a birth and put ointo cages and shipped to different fields and its really sad...

[hhhkevin]

mooo

[mybeefcows]

nice video what feeding system are you using

[Emmerara]

I hate that humans enjoy eating such young animals.

I eat Lamb... But I just can't bring myself to eat Veal... The thought sickens me...

I don't mind people eating it...

But it's just...

Taking a calf from it's Mother when it is born? I can't deal with that...

[fhxashj]

@Emmerara there are many types of veal from bob veal, which is only a few days old, to rose veal, which is around 35 weeks old. Most lamb is around 3 to 5 months (13 to 21 weeks ish). so eating lamb but not veal, depending on the veal, is kinda hypocritical.

[friesiancowboy]

@Emmerara

Well, if you dont want a calf to be taken a way from its mother, you consumers have to stop demanding cheap milk, if farmers recived just 10ppl more, they wouldent need to produce as much milk to try and make a living off it and therefore they could keep the calves with the cows for a few months. Here in the uk, the milk price is the same as production price, over 2/3 of brittish dairy farmers have gone out of business due to low milk prices. I hope you can sort of see what i mean.

[lovebigboobs29]

@friesiancowboy I like cheap milk. Also veil is delicious so I am all for the industry!!

[friesiancowboy]

@lovebigboobs29

this is why farmers can't earn a decent wage, you townies just want cheap food! if you all just paid an extra 50p per litre we could actualy earn a living!

[lovebigboobs29]

@friesiancowboy I am sorry for you guys. But I will still choose the cheaper option. Got other things to buy then food. I buy stuff on sell and shop at Kroger.

[lovebigboobs29]

@friesiancowboy I meant veal...... Sorry misstype!

[lovebigboobs29]

@Emmerara Veal is delicious!!! Leaner also then regular beef!

[veryangelic1]

It's better than most factory farms, but still wrong. I noticed you don't show what happens when they're slaughtered, or how the cows continue to cry, when you take their baby away. It's simple...we don't have the right to harm others. If these were your babies, would you want someone to take it away from you as soon as you gave birth? No, then why do it to another being; one that it has been PROVEN, can feel. At slaughter, these animals will die a HORRIBLE death; one that is unimagineable!

[dykstraM1]

Very nice operation, starter pens are a little over crowded, and i don't care much for animals laying on slats, bedding is important for animal comfort. Other than that, well done, very tidy, and the calves seem relaxed and content.

[nigjie002]

What is the name of milk replacer you use. Really nice operation

[hardlyhimself]

@nigjie002  Grober Milk replacer

[666barbie]

how about you work a real job and stop killing defenseless calfs that arent even old enuff to be taken from their mother

[nakamine1713]

@666barbie How about you stop acting like a faggot? umad?

[valeriaproductions]

The calves are mooing because they are being PRODDED and they are SCREAMING for their MOTHERS. some of them are not more than a few days old. How cruel... their little heads held in place by metal. Please do not eat veal or support the industry that inflicts unspeakable cruelty on BABIES. As you can see they are crowded into pens, coming to the camera in hopes of affection or rescue. They never get to set foot on grass, they are deprived of their Mothers.

Vela is cruel.

[shrikanthpoiu]

mmm delicious

[brittstur09]

@shrikanthpoiu What kind of cruel faggot are you. Your really careless.

[shrikanthpoiu]

@brittstur09 You're a fucking idiot. Veal is and will always be a popular food that you can buy in any goddam supermarket. Go back to the kitchen and don't post on here like you know anything BITCH. I'd fuck you and eat you SLUT.

[Snickerbockers]

Why the heck am I watching this? I was just watching how to put on scooter threadless forks and this came up.

[OneiroscopeB]

Do these poor babies ever get outside? See the sun? Eat grass? Or are just fed on iron-depleted formula to keep then anaemic and their flesh white?

How is this any better than intensive piggeries or poultry farms?

[AdaKizi1]

How long do the calves stay with their mothers before they're shipped out? Do they at least get their colostrum? 

[whitebredcharlie]

great operation, leave it to dutch people!

[whitebredcharlie]

great operation

[Egglingen]

at the end there I was surprised about letting the calfs get milk so long. Here on our farm in Norway we starting to give the calfs dryfeding and grass in about 1 1/2 month and stop feeding whit milk.

so... what do you think, is it more profit to give the calfs milk so long as 2-3 months, or the way we do it in Norway?

Intersting vid btw;)

-Egglingen

[haymarketmassacre]

They are so pretty and soft when they are young.

[TheStarWarriorHorse]

Better humane laws = success. There is some room for improvement but it's still much better than most factory farms. If I were to rate this farm for maintaining humane standards I would rate it 3/5 stars. The average factory farm, 1/5.

[TeriAlison19]

This looks in no way like a factory farm. These calves are happy and healthy, with room to move around. There are handled humanely, without stunning prods. If EVERY FUCKING FARM operated like this, we would be eating better meat and dairy that isn't full of bacteria and disease, and therefore we wouldn't need all the bullshit anitbiotics that cost millions to keep the animals "artificially healthy" and with the BILLIONS of dollars the food farming industry they could afford the upgrades!!

[myprophet1]

Humans have the UNIQUE ability to validate their actions to avoid personal change:)

[MultiWingnut]

Sorry, no veal for me. I wouldn't kill one myself, so I wouldn't eat ones killed by someone else. I guess it would feel too much like killing kids. I'd only do it if I was starving, not as a delicacy.

[mynameisian1]

Seriously guys grow up. Face the facts because this reality and we need to eat meat because its part of nature.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

@mynameisian1 do we? millions of people go without meat and dairy and often feel healthier, live longer, and have happier lives without supporting cruelty for every meal. you should try it. we aren't part of any "nature" by raising 59 billion animals a year in intensive confinement for the sole purpose of doling out their genetically-uniformal, totally unnecessary flesh and products.

[beaelliott]

These babies were stolen from their mothers so that humans can steal the milk that nature intended for them... These "veal" calves won't even see their first year of life on earth before they are butchered. How's that for "tender" meat? Go Vegan

[ssaldanah]

My brazilian gf thinks veal is absolutely orgasmic ... and so is she ... haha

[otrice53]

Fucking Terrible!!!

[funkymunkystepho]

To the person and people who are with this disgusting act, what the hell is wrong with you? I know you guys grew up in an enviourment where this is ok, but im sure you all are old enough to think for yourself. How do you guys think that taking new born calves from their mothers are ok? Wait, dont tell me, its all about the money, right? You guys need to put yourself into those cows shoes (or hooves) regardless it being an animal or human. You people need to grow up.

[jasonwharrie]

ive been working on farms for 5 years now rearing calves and milking cows. calves dont care who or what feeds them they will always be happy as long as they are fed same with cows as long as the are milked they dont worry about their calves. this is a very tidy system and i like how it is run

[bitzerfarms]

attn morons: it takes life to support life. yes veal did have a mother, and yes it did have feelings, but so did cabbage. welcome to the planet. if u don't like it, leave.

[bibelbotth]

after i red all these comments i have no hope...people you have no hearts, souls, you are blind on pain and suufering so innocent creatures

hey issa5060 there was a man who thought exacly like you but about some kind of people his name was HITLER

[ananpipi1227]

You don't need to be sad. I am an vegan.

I strongly believe that people will undertand it.

If we hope people LOVE animals, we need to LOVE people first. Stop fighting, no matter verbal or physical.

[Snopuddles]

Though I must admit it's a lot better than most..

[Snopuddles]

How cute! Truckloads of calves that get the pleasure of living their short lives in moderately cramped spaces. Now excuse me while I go and steal someone's baby and eat it.

[yourmom0132]

@ wbjames veal calves are usually slaughtered at only 22 weeks of age. I used to work for strauss veal feeds and we usually kept the calves 10 days-22 weeks

[wbjames1]

Sounds pretty high tech with feeding and such. How do you know when it's time to actually slaughter for meat? Is there a certain age when veal meat is considered ready or does it vary. Do you also have a high tech way for evalutaing when they're ready. Interesting stuff. I also like the fact that you've created an interesting conversation in the comments.

[hardlyhimself]

Calves in group housing in USA are being shipped at 18-19 weeks at around 450 lb. Also the amount of feed intake per calf is monitored by an electronic reader attached to one ear which registers and controls the maximum amounts each calf can drink. This is all recorded and monitored live by computer

[merowlar]

Whoever keeps thumbing down the SENSIBLE and CARING comments needs to stop. Please and thank you.

These comments are legit, including the belief that animals need to be well cared for and not sent to death before they even know what life is.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

i can't imagine the terror these babies feel when they get to the slaughterhouse..

the stench of blood... the panicked eyes... the dismemberment of babies...

i don't think i will ever understand how people could treat innocent animals in such a manner.

[hardlyhimself]

They are not you and you are applying your human sensibilities and using inflammatory wording for effect. Be interesting to here waht you think about abortion..

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

it would be very interesting to hear* your thoughts on abortion as well. considering you profit off of the death of baby cows.

no inflammatory wording there. they are baby cows. you profit off their deaths. it is as simple as that.

yes, my last comment was emotional. i feel compassion toward those who suffer, and occasionally wish to express my sadness.

[TheDurnans]

@hardlyhimself Agreed. Most of these "animal rights" people could care less about human rights. Most vote liberal, and therefore keep the slaughter of innocent human babies legal. The only difference is that the slaughter of human babies happens inside a womb in a very private office. If they did it out in the open like this sort of slaughter, I have a feeling that they might feel a bit different about the killing of human babies. As long as they don't see it, they're okay with it.

[rozl66]

@TheDurnans

Please get off the abortion kick! This is about raising a baby calve for human consumption... Though, I do not condone in this, this facility is the MOST humane way of raising "veal"...

Back to abortion... WTF? do you have any knowledge that the ONLY reason these calves are born is because Dairy cows are artificially impreganated to continue the milking cycle for humans to steal from the babies for human consumption! They don't even get to spend more than a day with their mothers!

[rozl66]

@TheDurnans

There r way 2 many people on this planet anyhow! So, who really gives a rats ass if a women makes the decision 2 abort her own baby? If the mother is not goin 2 luv or care 4 the child, then what is the point n bring'n another mouth, another HUMAN (unwanted) 2 consume what little resources r left on this planet?! I don't believe n long termination abortions, but it still is "choice" not a farming practice! Cows grieve ov'r the loss of their babies. unwanted pregnancies r just that!

[lovebigboobs29]

@rozl66 There are plenty of resources on this planet for the growing population. The supermarkets here are packed with food.

[isaa5060]

you said you dont use inflammatory wording, but you just did here! what garbage, you are a charlatan. if you dont like killing things then dont eat vegetables or tell wolves or coyotes not to eat small animals.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

we are humans. we can make the choice not to cause suffering toward countless billions of animals.

a cow, chicken, pig, dog, cat, or wolf is nothing like a plant. every one of them is having their own unique life experience that we have no right to destroy for something as pointless as 'taste'.

if caring about the environment, human health, and the suffering of animals makes me a charlatan, so be it.

[isaa5060]

a cow, chicken, pig, dog and cat ARE like plants. you say they are nothing like them. they both breathe, they both live. therefore you have to concede this point. a plant has a unique life experience, whether u like it or not.

this isnt about taste, your denying the natural dependence of humans on animal meat and products to survive.

im not sure how eating meat causes poor human health, or how its environmentally friendly. regardless of what u say, we live in a world where it is eat or be eatn

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

plants have no central nervous system, therefore plants cannot feel pain. plants do not, because of a lack of a central nervous system, have a brain. therefore they cannot not think, plan, love, or have any emotion whatsoever.

animals do, of course, have these things, and they suffer very much when you hurt them (whether emotionally or physically).

crush the head of a dog and a head of lettuce and tell me it's exactly the same thing.

there is NO REASON whatsoever to abuse or murder an animal.

[isaa5060]

I will grant you plants have no central nervous system that feels pain. But you take this absense of evidence that plants feel pain as evidence of the absense of an ability to feel pain in plants--- an appeal to ignorance. just bc u dont understand how cells in a plant feel pain does not make you correct. u say they cant think or plan, however if u put a plant by a window, it gravitates--- no thinks and plans where it wants to go (sunlight). please SHOW me, multiple SCIENTIFC sources that say

[isaa5060]

plants do not feel pain. you CANT, therefore you cannot conclude that when you eat them, they do not feel pain.

i dont know, roots strategically moving underground is not enough for you.

how about the venus fly trap? how does that work? cmon it must be able to think, at least somehow to some capacity, but is not fully explained (to my knowledge).

your in denial about the nature of the universe. I want you to put a tiger or lion in captivity and try to feed it grass, it wont survive

[isaa5060]

indeed, if you value unborn, unsentient (as far as I know) aborted prego cells as your one post indicates, you should value plant life.... so go eat this new diet, the one that consumes no plants, no animals--- starvation

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

actually, i'm pro-choice. i never implied that i wasn't, i just didn't appreciate answering something that would end in me being slandered unfairly.

bodily rights are entangled in animal rights. no one should be forced to do anything with their body they do not wish to do - including dairy cows, gestation pigs, and pregnant humans.

[isaa5060]

you make it sound as if dairy cows, gestation pigs are able to decide that they want to have offspring. but that is not the case, their reproduction is regulated by body chemicals, way out of their control--- they have no choice (only two other mammals go at it for fun??).

im not sure what you mean by "love" but if ur talking about it in a sexual sense, it is wholly impossible.

its possible a calf stays by its mother for milk and only milk bc of instinctual drives rather than complex thoughts.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

you seriously need to spend some time relating to these animals.

cows and pigs are forced into pregnancy by humans in the industry as is their separation from their babies.

mother-child relationships have no species barrier. mother cows feel just as much grief as human mothers when something happens to their children.

[isaa5060]

i think they are fine and friendly animals until they need to be slaughtered and most can become quite attached to humans as a substitute for mothers, esp at a young age. there are many tragedies anyone or anything will have in the course of its life.

however, you saying they are FORCED into pregnancy is completely wrong, they are like dogs, they come into heat. farmer joe just doesnt get a cow artifically pregnant whenever he wants, it has to be in heat to get pregoed.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

human babies would latch on to any sort of friendly contact if they were ripped from their mothers too. that doesn't make it okay.

i'd like to stop arguing with you, as i can see you will never even attempt to improve your health, the state of the environment, or the awful plight of animals by just simply going vegan.

[isaa5060]

how am i going to improve my health by not eating meat? you have not proven this, in real life, law or any situation you have something called BURDEN OF PROOF, which you have not presented. you have not shown how raising veal hurts the environment.

as of now, I cannot counter your argument about cow babies and i am ill equipped to do so anyways.

[hardlyhimself]

In that case what do you suggest carnivores live on?

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

their natural diet, of course. as long as they refrain from raising billions of animals in factories and exploiting the planet for resources and slaughtering them with machinery instead of claws & teeth, it's natural. oh, and of course, as long as they continued to eat flesh raw from the corpse instead of disguising it and cooking out the bacteria that humans cannot naturally digest.

it's called a natural ecosystem - carnivores should be a part of it. we are not part of any natural ecosystem.

[isaa5060]

humans can eat certain raw meats in their raw form, but most definitely not pigs. however, cooking is only a natural process as humans have not created fire. I think your getting at a nature fallacy here. you assume natural things or processes are better. however many natural things are bad: heroin, disease, erosion. many non natural things are good: computers, tv, ovens. what does it matter if an animal is killed by claws or a machine--- the result is the EXACT same, this is faulty reasoning.

[isaa5060]

furthermore, we are part of the natural ecosystem or else we would not be interacting with these animals, unless they are not in a natural ecosystem, in which case no one, or no thing is in a natural ecosystem.

you want natural things, but u want to engage in an unnatural diet--- veganism. indeed, earliest hominid fossils indicate that humans had eaten meat for quite sometime.

[isaa5060]

im sorry your not going to respond anymore bc your just showing your unwillingness to address my arguments logically and your reliance on a lack of evidence, contradictions and the like.

i dont disagree that stopping the consumption of meat would help the environment but people arent going to change to an unnatural diet. nonetheless carnivores are regulated by availability of food and others r starving bc of this. if you dont like this reality, dont have kids. they wil create tons of waste.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

...really? you need to express yourself in four long comments? be respectful and don't spam.

you give reason after reason to try to justify something that is absolutely unnecessary.

eating animals and dairy products is not needed and in fact has led to diabetes, osteoporosis, heart problems, obesity, and more.

if you don't HAVE to cause an animal to suffer, then you have a moral imperative not to. it really is that simple.

why slaughter pigs if there is no need? it's a primitive, ugly holocaust.

[isaa5060]

"really? you need to express yourself in four long comments? be respectful and don't spam." great red herring fallacy here, this is irrelevant to any of the posts ihave made or topicin question.

you assume that eating meat is a causation of health problems, however studies (look for yourself) indicate that it is not. however, veganism violates your nature principle because you have to buy b12 supplements, therefore making you a hippocrite.

[isaa5060]

insects, such as lady bugs, bees, or whatever depend on plant life, partially or fully for sustenance. human harvesting of vegetables causes destruction of habitat for these animals. maybe you should consider that b4 u make these comments about how dmging consumption of meat is, bc consumption of corn, which is mass produced seems to hurt other organisms, when harvested and when the soil is turned barren.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

more plants are used in the production of animals for food than the production of plant crops for food.

[isaa5060]

ok, so your allowed to destroy an ecosystem, that could hold life for bugs and whatever that is there as long as meat cattle consume more corn? you eat vegetables, thereby promoting the use of pesticides, to mass produce your food. maybe you go "organic" but they still destroy crops, and use "organic" pesticides. you kill innocent bugs and plants.. destroy ecosystems, destroy the planet's natural life... like why!!!!!

[isaa5060]

further hippocrisy of yourself--- your profile you support having a cage monkey, but dont support the caging of things like cows for food. so perhaps you dont hate the caging of animals, you hate the consumption of animals, which is natural to human diets, unlike having to take b12 supplements, which if u didnt take, you WOULD die.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

um hello? i'm against caged monkeys, fuckface. that monkey was rescued from a life in cages. i worked at a primate sanctuary where they are released back into natural habitats.

and no, i do not have to take b12 supplements. b12 is found naturally in dirt and soil, which, if you eat natural veggies and fruits, comes along with the food.

[isaa5060]

well, you can eat dirt and grind down your teeth, i know im not. but the experts tell me that vegans need b12 supplements and are no better off than omnivores, but hey, people with Phds know nothing!

[synr312]

Please tell me that your the dumbass mauled recently while feeding those primates at the sanctuary in Florida......Please

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

nope. how, exactly, does being against needless cruelty make me a dumbass?

[isaa5060]

sorry for the well informed "spam" but i must.

cattle, pigs or whatever are not able to make moral decisions or understand the consequences of their actions. for ex, a bull who kills someone. therefore they should be controlled by those who are able to make those moral judgements, furthermore their understanding of their world is so limited they cannot objectively understand their subjective "emotions". you explain quantam physics to babies or cowstheywillnotunderstandand will do what they want

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

oh, so because babies (and the mentally disabled) dont understand quantum physics or moral judgments, it's okay to exploit, abuse, and murder them? glad to know. your argument holds NO water. stop fucking spamming this guy's page with unintelligible propaganda.

[isaa5060]

no its not okay to murder babies, this is because even though they do not comprehend their environments, they are eventually still able to make moral decisions later in life, calves are not. I wasnt fully explicit, but its nice to know that your so frustrated your resulting to ad homeniem (fucking sp!)

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

the severely mentally disabled will not be able to make moral decisions later in life either. that does not make it okay to exploit/kill them. same for calves, puppies, humans, etc.

you also must eat vegetables to survive. that doesn't mean you can't MINIMIZE your harm by cutting the majority of cruelty out of your diet.

if killing is unnecessary, you have a moral obligation to avoid it.

what is the problem with MINIMIZING the amount of harm you cause? because that, my slow friend, is the point.

[isaa5060]

this shall be my concluding post. hopefully you will have realized, by now, that vegetables, and insects are living. Eating vegetables kills bugs and vegetables, and if you truly value life, you will in addition to not eating meat, stop eating plants.

if you do not, then you really dont value anythings life or just deny the nature of the world. something should not have to make a noise when you kill it to be worth saving, and this is truly a flimsy argument.

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

@hardlyhimself meat. as they contribute to a natural ecosystem, predators are vitally important.

[Soulisscool]

@hardlyhimself Although this appears better than some of the disgustingly cruel 'veal farms', they knew they were being filmed. Personally, I think that the whole environment the calves are in is terrible & so unnatural and lets face it, they're babies, they obviously should be with their mothers. The separation causes enormous stress & anguish for mother & calves and for what? Mothers wail for their calves & some have escaped looking for them. I hate what humans do to animals!

[isaa5060]

i hope to god someday you will stop eating vegetables, I dont know how you can stand their silent screams!!! all those living cells (microscope?) that your killing!! MURDERER!!!!!!!

[thekillerklown13]

@LARAMONExALFNOWx i dont think they know the terror bcuz they dont know where the hell they are and whats gonna happen

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

@thekillerklown13 on the contrary, research suggests that cows and other commonly slaughtered animals are very aware of what is going to happen to them, simply using their senses - smelling the death of the cows before them, seeing the others die, and hearing their protests. you can look up the work done by temple grandin, if you like. she designs slaughterhouses and admits that many animals seem to be completely aware of their impending demise. it's a fairly interesting study..

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

@thekillerklown13 not to mention, even if you were mentally disabled (but still aware of your environment), taken away from your mother, roughly transported to a strange place, ear-tagged, branded, what-have-you, you'd still feel terror. in fact, animals are more likely to be terrified in such a situation, as they cannot be consoled with information as to why they are there, what it's all about, etc. hence the comparison to the mentally disabled.

[depater14]

when they get to the slaghterhouse they cant see or smell any blood from the others calfs

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

@depater14 still doesnt make it okay. it's unnecessary murder, plain and simple, and horribly destructive to the planet. try to eliminate meat and dairy from your diet so we can stop this madness...

[AstrexRabbits]

What is so sad in this video is I see a little calf trying to run, play and kick up it's heels in the crowded pen. A natural farm raised free pasture calf (even if it's meant for food) would at least been able to run and play until it's death. But not so with veal calves as running, playing, building up muscle, and getting too much sunlight will "toughen" the meat and not produce the "tender, anemic veal meat" you so desire... How many people that eat veal REALLY understand how it's produced?

[hardlyhimself]

Sorry --- you have listened to too much propaganda or produced it --- the tenderness of the meat has nothing to do with exercise -- it is the diet --Exercise and building muscle is healthy for vela calves - there are no restrictions on sunlight -- they just happen to be housed in doors due to extremes of climate.

[AstrexRabbits]

I do eat meat, beef, pork, chicken. I do not eat veal, lamb, etc. My dad hunted. I grew up on a farm. I believe ALL animals should be well cared for, even if they are raised for food purposes, until the time they are taken/killed for food. I also feel anyone that eats veal, lamb, etc should have to AT least work a week in the barn caring for the baby animals. Their crys will haunt your dreams, believe me. AND most everyone that "loves" veal / lamb will come away with a different outlook.

[hardlyhimself]

Calves in make a noise when they are hungry. On automatic machines they are never hungry so once they are fed the frist time they never make another noise -- When they arrive at the farm they have only had water or electrolytes when traveling -- Young calves don't travel well with full stomachs.

[AstrexRabbits]

Well let me begin by saying I HAVE WORKED on a farm, and have been brought up around animals. As for as farm facilities go this one is very clean /animals well kept, HOWever, I do not eat baby animals. I'm not against hunting, or eating meat, but I do draw the line at eating "baby" animals, as I do not feel this is right. I believe anyone that eats veal, or lamb, should have to AT least work in a veal barn for a week. It would change their outlook, and I'd bet many would give up veal / lamb.

[hardlyhimself]

I have worked with animals including veal calves for at least 20 years .... There are good operators and bad ones as you would expect . I think you would regard me as a good one ! I help make the video

[LARAMONExALFNOWx]

i understand the desire not to eat baby animals, but there is no reason to eat adults either. these babies' mothers will suffer for longer and are treated just as bad if not worse. their lives are horrible and their pain & grief immeasurable, and for what reason? i encourage you to work on a factory farm raising adult animals or stand on a kill floor, and see if you change your outlook as well.

just because such individuals raised for food are not infants, doesn't mean they don't suffer too. :)

[JCB411abuser]

very nice operation, a great help in the struggle to feed people! get your priorities straight, people>animals!!

[beaelliott]

All that trouble to feed calves what they should be drinking from their mothers. Climate control facilities... how "green" is that? What a waste. Stop with the animal products already - Go Vegan

[beaelliott]

How horrible that they all cry and moan for their mothers... It reminds me so of what the slave ships must have been like... cruel, digustingly inhumane.

Choose compassion - Go vegan

[international660]

Looks like a nice, neat tidy, operation. Calves are happy and healthy, facilities are clean and well managed. Anyone who had a clue about what they were talking about would never say a negigive comment about this operation. Especally with their mouth full.

[KVLai]

Why don't some of you hypocrites about being a "Vegetarian" stop Apes in the wild which is eats both meat & plants convert to vegetarian. You know as humans we eat both type of food. No one will charge you for canibalism. Why the hell we suddenly have to so suddently "evolve" in to cows which only eat plants? Have you ever seen babies raised purely on plants? They look so malnorished when they are about 12. They look like starving people in Africa. Bear this in mind. I've seen it myself.

[Byrd968]

you have an awesome set up

[cbrun67176]

What study has ever said vegans live longer???

[OceanAnchor888]

THIS IS CRUEL AND UNJUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THESE POOR CALVES HAVE FEELINGS AND HURT!!=( how could anyone do this to them :...(

[SoberInsanity]

But they look so yummy. My mouth is watering.

[losnoobiecannon]

You should work on a farm for a few weeks. I bet you would be one of the people in the slam videos beating the crap out of a calf. I am impressed with this operation and glad to see a video of something other than a crate. I will get some veal tomorrow. It is delicious.

[mrb2400]

They're gonna die anyways, so what does it matter?

[riparashid]

Last night, I had 'sauteed veal chop with natural jus and vegetable tagliernis flavored with pesto'. YUM! This veal was so tasty that it took me to a new height of satisfaction.

[UseYourIllusions123]

When will people understand that animals have a biography,not just a biology,they differ to us in degree,not in kind.Yes,we may have power and control over them due to our "intelectual superiority",but with all power comes responsibility, something which we evidentally do not deserve.The fact we abuse those who are weaker proves our inferiority.

[Debbydiesel]

Too bad people don't acknowledge the damage that meat and dairy consumption is doing to their own health, heart attacks, OBESITY, strokes, clogged arteries and a multitude of other problems directly related to meat eating. I feel no sympathy for people who eat these animals and then suffer the consequences. Your appetites will be the death of you.

[andykins118118]

most of that is done with junk food and processed food, like fast food and the such that take shortcuts to good taste. eating no meat can do as much or more harm than not eating it.

[Debbydiesel]

It would be good for you to do some research on the effects of meat and dairy consumption on the human body and the other side of the coin, the benefits of a vegan lifestyle. Vegans live longer in general and healthier, than people who eat the amounts of meat that people consume on a daily basis.

[andykins118118]

i know very well that eating meat can have adverse affects on the body if consumed in excessive amounts, especially at an old age and i plan to stop eating meat if i reach a very old age, but for someone who is growing a lot eating meat is essential, it has a lot of energy inside of it that's not fake energy like caffeine, eating celery is a negative calorie. it takes more energy to digest celery than you get from it. but in the near future, i'm going to keep eating my balanced portions

[942119]

Actually dairy products like milk are recommended to those trying to loose weight, it can be a big help to get those pounds off because the body feels satisfied with just a small amount of the healthy drink. And its not eating meat that has the adverse affects on the body, it is the lifestyle that goes with it, if you don't exercise what do you expect??? But those who do exercise and work out need the protein that only meat and milk provide.

[andykins118118]

very true

and at my school, (military school) exercise is a big part of everything. it can usually keep you out of trouble too, instead of getting detention or a write-up you do pushups lol.

the best way to lose weight though is to find a lot of healthy snacks frequently. eat little and often. it speeds up your metabolism, and when coupled with exercise can make you lose weight fast without being unhealthy or skipping meals which does the opposite.

[JanksterProductions]

it may be good for preventing diseases, but they can barley move in the stalls. they are, waht, 2 by 6 feet? Thats horrible. And at such a young age...? Cows actually have feelings, too.

Im not some crazy vegan: I do eat meat. But my dad grew up on a farm and you must respect the animal before you eat it.

Never will i order veal.

[kdleal]

Hey Jankster,

Stall size varies between farms.

My bottle fed calves are housed in 4' x 8' stalls. Plenty of room to move around. Once they are weaned they are turned out to pasture. Holsteins, by nature have a weaker immunity system then most beef breeds. If they are drinking from the same milk nipple, it is very likely that they could all die.

Watching a baby calf die is the saddest part of farming. If I lost an entire pen full, I would probably give it up.

Stalls are good.

KDL

[JanksterProductions]

ok, not like i am all for veal, but i appreciate your explanation and concern :-)

[kdleal]

btw, none of my calves are raised for veal.

The number of calves which I keep is small enough that I can raise them for about 15 months on grass and hay. They are only in a stall for about 8-10 weeks, long enough to build up an immunity system.

Since holsteins do not produce the quality/quantity of meat as the beef breeds, this is impractical for most large scale farmers. The only reason I raise holsteins instead of angus is because I live near a dairy and I can get calves cheap.

[JanksterProductions]

oh... sorry!

Again, thanks for explaining :-)

[UrDoinItWrong]

Vegans are not crazy. Also, if you drink milk, you support the veal industry. If you do not understand why, please do more research. The consumption of animal products is totally unnecessary and the cause of many health problems.

[jeepgirl190]

Ive worked @ a dairy farm and ive watched cows and calves seperated and its not that bad. No different than any other animal being weaned. Once the calves are fed, they hush up, they're happy, they play, and then they take a nap. They are never mis-treated, and they are very much loved. Eventually you wean a calf and no matter the time, yes they will call mommy for an hour or so, and then they're done, they move on and forget about it. I have horses and they do the same.

[gailritter]

jeepgirl-Too bad you didn"t follow the calves to the slaughter house.Yes, they are loved just the same as the owners love money.That"s why they are raised-for the money.Did you watch any get castrated with no anesthetic?

[RaevnUSA]

This video inspired me. So much that I actually visited the farm. I can honestly say that the premises and the handling of the calves are factually represented. The facilities were actually cleaner in person, and the staff was friendly and knowledgeable about their animals.

[jerrysproehlich]

The offspring are calling for their mothers!! This is so incredibly cruel I had to turn it off

[hardlyhimself]

Actually they are hungry. Once fed for the first time in the barn, calves make no noise at all. Young calves do not travel well when full of milk. This is why they are only given water and electrolytes during this period of transition.

[jerrysproehlich]

Oh please, i've worked with cows for years, i know what they're calling for. Don't assume I'm a fool. I've worked with them and their offspring. I've seen them interact before and i've seen them after they've been fed. Any offspring that needs to be protected in nature will instinctually feel fearful and abandoned when separated from their mother. This is evolution. This is why human babies cry for their mother when separated.

[hardlyhimself]

They are hungry and as soon as they are fed they stop completely - never to be heard again unless the feeder breaks down. mother = feed.

[jerrysproehlich]

No. As i said, i've worked with calves before. Including after they're fed, they still call for their mother as the mother calls for them if near. you think babies think of their mother as just food providers? They look at them realizing they need them nearby to survive. Calves would feel the same because in this sense they evolved the same way. newborn seperated from necessary parental protection= dead newborn. That is why human animals feel this attachment.

[porolita22]

I agree with you, it's such a shame people try to minimize animals as just empty-headed meat bags instead of fully conscious living beings just to clear their conscience.

This is just as wrong as the entire meat industry.

[Evilkaneheights]

Hardly any veal farmers do this. Becasue if one of those calves get sick the rest in that pen will too. and dont veal or dairy products so you wont support this cruel industry and STOP DELETING MY COMMENTS THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HEAR THE TRUTH!!!!

[hardlyhimself]

Your comments are hardly the truth. You are entitled to your opinion, but the truth is disease does not spread like this. I have over 25 years first hand experience in this area.

[studywar]

Was this shot at a mom and pap farm? Because guess what, the abusive and inhumane meat industries supply majority of the people with flesh. I wonder why you didnt show the "processing part" of the claves as you people that work for the meat industry like to say it. Its just a euphemism for murder.

Proud Vegetarian!!

[ffxrocks]

this look like a very clean and humane place to raise veal calves....too bad most veal industries and factory farms arent like this.

[Pokygirl2001]

That's a pretty clean facility.

[JPSS97]

This isn't that bad at all. I still don't eat veal, but the animals are not being disrespected (at least in comparison to what is out there)and th facility is clean and spacious.

[lawdog1035]

Cool. Automatic feeders so they can eat whenever they want. How is that mean?

[DERRYIRELAND]

Congratulations to the owner of this fine farm, the animals are very happy and contented, i hope you are making a decent profit, you deserve it.

[mudvayne75]

you people need to chill out a bit, that looks like a very nice place. they are all happy clean calves, which are fed probally more than what they would back at the farm, cause most bull calves born on a dairy farm are shot and killed right away. those calves are prolly very happy there. you people need to chill a bit.

[SleepySkeptic]

I still say that's no life for a baby cow. Better than a lot of what's out there, but still not cutting it.

[whothe0]

although im canadian i can admit this is wrong

[riparashid]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE veal. About the calves...hmm. They live their entire lives in crates, and dont know better...so why tell them :) If they have a problem with that, they can write to me...LOL

[freddyboy1974]

Very funny......NOT !

[Disneyfan82]

I'm glad I don't eat veal and never eaten it. In my opinion, veal is evil. Who's heartless idea was it to turn baby cows into a dinner menu? All for the love of money I suppose. Leave those poor gentle beings alone so they'll stay with their mothers for a lifetime. I don't see anyone doing this to puppies or kittens; so why calves?

[hardlyhimself]

The reason why these calves, mostly Holstein bull calves even exist is due to the fact that in order to get milk from a cow they need to give birth to a calf. Roughly 50% of the calves are "bulls" and there is no use for them as they will never be able to produce milk for human consumption. The Veal industry is developed to make use of this "waste product" from the milk industry. So if you drink milk, that's why there is veal!

[Disneyfan82]

Although milk, eggs, and meat have been used since the earlier ages, the industry today is just doing it more for money than survival and only think of the male calves as nothing but waste products. Well they're not products. Farm animals are treated like nothing more than tools of production; terribly sad in my opinion.

[hardlyhimself]

Ask a person who works on a production line in a factory how they feel? -- "tools of production" ... People may be treated well in this situation but that would be only to increase their performance as I am sure you are aware corporations have no heart beat.

[Disneyfan82]

Perhaps you're right. As long as they're not being beaten, bullied, or confined in small filthy crates, then that should be fine. Still won't eat veal though. I don't eat lamb, pigs, or ducks. I'd rather eat the kind of meat that is free-range or organic.

[JohnDeereBoy100]

Veal calves are NOT a waste product of the dairy industry; they are a BONUS! You get milk AND a baby. No, bull calves are not useful on a dairy farm. Veal is ONE way of getting full use from them but so is beef. That's where beef feedlots get their animals. (Canadian Farmer with Agricultural Degree)

[YoYoPedro]

Holsteins do not produce the type of beef that most consumers are looking for, the meat is too lean with minimal marbling. They are fine for McD's hamburgers, but very few, if any, would grade as high as people look for in their beef. Less than 5% of the beef produced in the USA is from Holsteins, and there are good reasons for that. It's not because the veal farmers outbid the beef farmers for the calves. It's because the beef farmer will get more money for the beef farmed from other breeds.

[BarnBrat]

What beutiful little cows.

By far..The BEST veal farming method ever seen.

BTW these animals are the by-product of dairy cows.

Still dont like veal though

[kastnmagic]

I know plenty about cows and don't think for a moment that these calves don't have antibiotics pumped into them at all times. They ensure meds are pumped to keep calves from scouring from Ecoli, Coccidia, etc...

Again, I must give this facility A+ for cleanliness... That should definately be the standard..Unfortuneately it's not.

[hardlyhimself]

It is definitely not true, "that these calves have antibioitics pumped into them at all times". Some may get sick in the first few weeks when thay are adjusting to their new environment and in this case antibiotics would be used.

[kastnmagic]

Well, I'll definately NEVER eat Veal. I will say that at least the facility IS CLEAN, which is a change...But believe it when I tell you that these employees KNOW they're being video taped so they're extra careful to be "gentle" with these calves... In reality, it's a whole other story...

[hardlyhimself]

This faciity is not as clean as when I was responsible for it. The people handling these calves are trained animal health technicians. They actually like animals and also realize that young claves do not respond well to prods, wacks etc... it is just counter productive!

[kastnmagic]

Well, glad to hear that. I'm not familiar w/this facility first hand BUT I do know how I've experienced bull calves (for veal or otherwise) being treated on large dairy farms. It's pretty horrid...to say the least. Hitting, Bullying, etc. any living thing is definitely counter productive...absolutely abusive. I will agree w/you there. Again, this facility impressed me.