its frustrating trying to make a point to someone who's stuck on stupid_farmer is completely missing the point in an attempt to please the white folks, not realizing thats the only reason they have him on da show.
Peoples comments keep attacking James Farmer but he was ultimately right. Look at how Latinos and Arabs are being treated today not only in the south but all over the country
@skinsfanh88 But you must realize the time that this was done the problem was all throughout the black community. James Farmer's point looked further into the future. It is however a failing outlook, however noble. And the issues today are compounds of the avoidance of the pertinent issues that plagued the black community as a majority. You can only be shitted on so much til peolple on the outside begin to smell it too
malcolm X always had coolness and charisma when he spoke. Even his last words "lets be cool brother" which he spoke to his assassin, carried that composure!
Anyone, regardless of their race or gender, who actually relies upon public school for a genuine education is a fool. There are libraries everywhere; take the responsibility to educate yourself.
JAMES FARMER IS SO INCORRECT. MALCOM UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PROBLEM WOULD REMAIN. HOW CAN WE HELP OTHERS IF WE CANT EVEN HELP OURSELVES. THE COMPHENSATION FOR DISCRIMINATION HAVE STILL NOT BEEN MET. THOSE BLACK WHO LIKE TO TALK INTELIGENLTY INFRONT OF WHITE ARE PUPPETS THAT WILL SAY ANYTHING TO PLEASE MASTER. fUCK AMERICA AND THE GOVERNMENT. BY ANY MEANS NECESARY.
"Why do you have a race problem if you're a member of the public?" Malcolm should have followed that with "You dip-shit!!!" If the white race weren't so suck on themselves as being superior... there wouldn't be a race problem!!! How can there be freedom if the word no longer exist?
You'll never wipe it out with a desegregated theater.. lol.. Malcolm X is and was the truth.. No one could debate him, a true master orator.. Malcolm X is lives in me and through me everyday.. I love him forever..
all blacks who refuse to understand that we must go for self and leave our oppressors alone can get rolled over along with the crakkkas. the only agenda black people must have is an all black agenda. Private schools specifically to teach our children the proper knowledge of themselves and black businesses in black areas. All Arabs, jews and asians need to be kicked the hell out of our neighborhoods and take their asses back to their own neighborhoods and do business.This is serious business
These crab-ass uncle toms are killin' us, black people. "The black race can't afford you no more" is what Malcolm should've said to these bootlickin, apple-polishing, butt-sniffin black devils...
@MrThekidisback they're called the Talented Tenth, a sub-section of self-loathing, white man-worshipping, and closeted homosexual blacks who feel fundamentally uncomfortable around their own people. These modern day house niggas subvert and undermine their own kind at the behest of their masters, the white man. Malcolm knew this and that's why these Boule devils challenged brother Malcolm at every turn. Quit playing dumb or get w/ the program or I'ma send the "Drop Squad" after you and yours...
@MrThekidisback - haha! that's the best you got, son? So sad. That's how someone w/ minimal intellect would respond. I just told you who's running shit and it went right over your head. There's obviously no shortage of criminally stupid assholes like you in the world.
@MrThekidisback any black that SAYS he wants to help blacks can still be an uncle tom! I'm looking for blacks that DO help blacks and blacks really need to help themselves more than anything! I say fuck white liberals because they bring down "aid" that does more economic harm than good because it affronts the free market system that effectively allows wealth to be created within communities. you'd be surprised by how much price controls to "help" blacks end up destroying their communities.
@BlackMessiahX thank you. Brother Malcolm knew what he said,said what he meant and meant what he said.
two black economist: Walter Williams & Thomas Sowell will back Brother Malcolm up on this truth and this argument.
these two men I just mentioned are often called uncle toms because they're republicans but the ones who accuse them of this don't even READ their work or assess their argument. These fools believe that anyone that isnt afraid to criticize blacks for their failures is a race traitor
@sahara1924 Clowns like this are the main reason I left christianity to begin with. Sitting in the middle of a country that exists in comfort BECAUSE of violence is the very backbone of hypocrisy. White men say it all the time when they talk to "liberals" about nonviolence.
Yet when a black face says you have the right to bear arms against tyranny, suddenly it's racism.
Oh, and Ghandi a bigot, pedophile, and a fraud. fact
Freedom Riders were some of the strongest, bravest, selfless people involved in the movement. Action speaks louder than words, rhetoric and being glib.
@scatcoitus Though they were desegragated as a sense of being able to be attend downtown and the movie theater or being employed doesnt mean inside those places the whites wasnt racist anymore and blacks werent being descriminated against inside those place which was in control of the white man .. so James Farmer probably won but he wasnt right either ...
I really get tired of people using the terms Puerto Rican, Dominican, Cuban as if they refer to a particular race. These terms only state ones nationality or decent. People from these places can be of any race.
That's a good debate. I feel james farmer had the advantage at the beginning especially with the Porto Rican thing but X later on turned it over with the theatre thing. ' Is it a game to go to a theatre for a man who doesn'T have a job'
sorry.....but James Earl Farmer was was more highly educated than Malcolm X. Malcolm X was somewhat educated but mostly brainwashed from Elijah and had more of an open mind. James Earl Farmer spoke true facts.......
@benjianubis how can u say that Farmer was more highly educated than Malcolm? There are several types of education. I know PHD's that can not debate a computer hacker about computers. A cheap analogy, but I hope u get the point. Farmer is calling entry to a movie, progress. Malcolm is saying that intergration will not solve the problems facing the so-called negro. I think white businesses should be allowed to deny whom ever they choose. Why beg your oppressor to help u get himself off your neck?
@123bigr i can say so because while Malcolm X had his vision blurred by constant negativity and kind of hostile thinking....James Earl Farmer had way more education back ground and had more of an open mind to certain aspects regarding racism. And after all,,,When Malcolm X went to Mecca and saw in the temple different races being integrated and acting as one...this made Malcolm X change his theories on segregation.Actually integration would solve the problem way more .
@benjianubis because people of different races could perhaps understand of the opposite race more and so it would perhaps take some of the fear and stereotype of each other. After all in the end Malcolm preached what he had gone previously against. I have both books on james farmer and malcolm....i read both and my analysis is that James was more of an educated and had more of an open mind
@benjianubis Open mind? You mean open to brainwashing. I like Farmer and he was a great man in his own right, but I disagree with him on some major points
@benjianubis Hostile thinking? What type of thinking should the victim of oppression have? Farmer was more educated by his oppressor's way of thinking than Malcolm, but Malcolm had him beat in the area of common sense. Farmer believed that his oppressor was interested in his plight. He got this type of thinking from his great education, which is what they wanted him to think. Boule-look it up. Malcolm was way ahead of his time.
@123bigr yes its bad and hostile thinking when someone thinks as some race being the DEVIL as he so often spoke off and james farmer never said such trash. Malcolm common sene as you say was pretty much his own opinions and did not have much of a conclusive thought. he might have been smart in certain aspects but in others he was ignorant and one track minded.
@benjianubis FOA, Malcolm did not create this bogus concept of "race". This concept was created by Euros that believed they were not only the original people, but superior to all. This type of thinking is rather new(in the context of history).This type of thinking led to the holocaust and the brutality directed towards so-called blacks. Would a Jew be wrong to think Nazis were devils?There is no such thing as a "white race", scientifically that is.Ever heard women say men r dogs? Get the point?
@123bigr I never said that Malcolm created it but he was brainwashed when Muhammad had taught him that The whie man was THE DEVIL and that there was no way that the white man could be trusted generalizing everyone which of course was a huge fallacy. And yes there is WHITE RACE also because the quakers and the englishman where considered white when they stole and killed ther natives of this country USA. to take over land. Everyone at some point tries to hurt an opposite race unfortunately
@benjianubis He had several incidents in his own personal life that led him to feel the way he did long before the Nation. NOI attracts a lot of young bros because they speak to the problems they r facing. I have issues with the Nation, but they exposed a lot of truth that bros did not know. Like I mentioned before, the term race is scientifically invalid. It is a social construct created to apply a psychological importance to a skin color. Is the albino child of dark parents a race?GTP!
@123bigr unfortunately since blacks felt oppresed back in th day and it was just a shame for what they had to go through....it could good to honestly say that malcom wanted to get out of that bad situation regarding oppresion and discrimintaion and so he felt great when he saw that there was someone like Elijah that could help him.
An alnino child of dark parents can be a mixture of different races..it does not neccessarily mean that it is just one race.
@123bigr I believe that the word expression of THE DEVIL shouldnt be used for certain instances. I guess the word was used because of the bad way someone or some group had become and thus was categorized in a bad way. However as far as generalizing is concerned its not good because the truth is that some white people did enslave blacks but also some white people did take he blacks out of bondage and gave them their freedom otherwise if all whites were the same then blacks woul still be slaves
@benjianubis I do not like generalizations either, but that is what is done in America. All so-called blacks can dance? So-called Whites r smarter than blks. Blks can not run long distances. Blks make bad fathers. Blks r thieves. A few blks can do something bad and all blks r made to feel responsible. However, Dahmer can eat people and no one looks at all whites as being serial killers. We are each individual beings that have our own way of thinking. Our skin tone does not dictate our actions
@123bigr And yes..you're right because as far as Malcolm generalizing certain issues regarding whites.....he did that a whole lot. Thats what I mean when I say that James was more open as to not generalize and see some things in a different way and or point of view. And no....just because someone is black ot white...it doesnt mean that he/she can do it better than the other. All of mankind has intelligence to do well and progress in life as you say.
@123bigr Malcolm X was a brilliant man with no doubt but James Farmer had more of broad mind and didnt just stick wth one theory only which pretty much is explained in some of the you tube videos here.
AFTER ALL...MALCOLM X went the same route after visiting MECCA.
@benjianubis What theory did Malcolm stick too? This is why race is bogus. How can U tell if someone is part of the so-called white race? What race does Obama belong too? How about Tiger Woods? Do you even know your own ancient ancestry? The differences U see in humans is caused by mutations. These mutations can happen over time or in a single generation. The blue eye is a mutation of the brown eye, but a mutation does not create a race. A brown lion gave birth to albino cubs. New race? GTP
@123bigr The theory that the WHITE MAN WAS THE DEVIL...that was his enlightement from muhammad but then had a change of theory after mecca. I alrerady mentioned this more than once and we are not debating here as to what nationality or race someone is but you and I were talking about the Malcolm and James Farmer as to who is more knowledgeable and open minded in certain aspects. But either way I see your poin tof view in different pigmentation of skin color but we are in a different topic
@benjianubis You use the term "race" & then ask me why I am debating it. I say that the concept of race, as it is used in America, is scientifically invalid. The use of this bogus concept has caused much of what you are talking about. I must say that "race" is a social construct & it is the social use of an invalid concept that is at the root of many issues. Elijah & Malcolm are products of this society, so they naturally practiced the bogus concept of race. It is not an easy concept to correct
@123bigr Yes but when I use the word RACE...I am merely indicating about some of the racist remarks regarding that some of the whites and blacks practiced back then and how people were oppressed and discriminated for being of a certain color. I understand that racism was higher in America than other countries regarding blacks. It is a social construct but unfortunately it was and in some ways now its still used to discriminate instead of validating the person with the intelligence itself.
@123bigr because people of different races could perhaps understand of the opposite race more and so it would perhaps take some of the fear and stereotype of each other. After all in the end Malcolm preached what he had gone previously against. I have both books on james farmer and malcolm....i read both and my analysis is that James was more of an educated and had more of an open mind
it seems to me that whites like it best when we accept settling for less as long as we are happy with nothing then they are happy as well I find it interesting that they find it offensive when we stand up for ourselves I have to say that I somewhat disagree with Dr. King he is teaching to ball up and take the beating and minister malcom teaches us to defend ourselves the same thing that our own mother,father or brother would teach us
this shit is so funny how this man calling blacks at that time racist when there were white only and for blacks only restrooms, blacks couldn't sit in front on the bus,since u know u produded this in a people,means ur the only racist,cuz think of the fear the blacks lived in at that time,u did a good job of turning blacks against each other also .it turned black org.on aginst each other when there soppose to be fighting for the same coz freedom and justice.still happing today.
both Mlk and malcolm x were very ispiring black leaders MLK knew that violence wasn't the answere as it would only make whites angrier at blacks. thats why he staged boycotts to hurt them financially and make people sympathetic in the marches Lk paved the way for malcolm x. malcolm x is right that we should defend ourselves but you gotta understand that blacks were backed up against the wall. if they fought they would have been beat jailed and enslaved again then what
sooo now my people cant move own from those days we were hurt jailed beat enslaved sooo wen somebody stands up we get called gay and shit i thought it wud be different than this i thought girls boys etc cud get along and play on the block instead we need to worry about gettin shot fuck the crips and the bloods there the real devils cumin outa my people
Basically we (Blacks) have many leaders. James L. Farmer, Jr. look into his history he was a very brave man look at the "Great Debaters" movie it was about his life. Our leaders, alot of them had to go against tremendous odds. So i cant agree with this defaming one to pump up another.
"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal"-Martin Luther King
"Let The Lord judge the real criminals" Tupac Shakur
If you live in the state of Arizona. please dont vote in favor of the SB1070. I'm Mexican and I truly admire Malcolm X because we Mexicans can really relate to Malcolm X. I hope that many African Americans listen to this man
well Malcom X was wrong about at least one thing. He made it seem like if whites and blacks were given equal rgihts the country might go down , or something like that. . . . . . . .
Martin Luther king was a fraud, it just goes to show that you never really listened to him. Martin luther king cared nothing for blacks or muslims, rather the opposite martin luther king called ALL muslims infidels in his i have a dream speech. Martin luther king was a ZIONIST. If you think he made a contribution to OUR advancement your as foolish as bush. In Malcolm X's speech on the house negro and filed negro, it was directed towards Martin luther king
@lhamlett where do you get your facts? MLK didnt do shit for black people read the FACTS. till this DAY we are still oppressed, Malcolm X made us speak up as a people, he told us it was ok to fight/die for what we believe in, MLK didnt do shit.
read/listen to his i have a dream speech, PLEASE. Elijah Mohammad was/is a fraud, thats why Brother X left N.O.I . if you speak on Malcolm please make sure you check before you post anything, ive studied malcolm x and almost everyone around him
@MalcolmXBP Careful. The sweetest things about having both Malcolm and MLK was that they BOTH were educated, and master ORATORS of that specific time especially in that era.
if not for martin L king,we would still be in segration today,fighting only brings more fighting..think about it,martin l king was genious,he united us while malcom x tried 2 seperate us from whites..he couldnt see the big picture like dr king..not 2take anything away from mr x,but malcom x was for only black ppl,dr. king's non violent tactics made racist white ppl in those days look like monsters..his ways made our liberties today possible,so i agree wit non-violence in those times
@str8OuttaNaptown30 "he united us while malcom x tried 2 seperate us from whites"
If blacks and whites are so united why do we still have black neighborhoods and white neighborhoods along with black schools and white schools? Why the two races follow a more uniform culture? Why do I see words like 'nigger' and 'ape' all over the internet everyday? Are we really together or is there still separation?
@GGLebo23 think in terms of the progress of today and relate it to those days..its all of Dr. King's methods..now true,there is still divison amongst SOME! but back then segration was law,not choice..if we're not united den how come there are interracial relationships,ur just too literal in terms of being united..ppl will always segregate themselves from eachother due 2 culture & sometimes race,dats not only here in america,but even in africa..dats just human nature..so ur point is inaccurate
many bright minds in this room. they could have done much more for us if they didnt argue against eachother and give their true opponents the ability to recover
cont; a dog if treated inhuman by its master if given the opportunity to flee,would run FAST,& would not look back,& if its master were to chase it screaming he will treat it better that dog would keep it moving,unless that dog is crippled.blind,& crazy in the mind,then that dog would lick its owm hind part & like a fool stay put,which is what many house negros decided to do.what a DUMBASS DOG HE WAS
i am muslim,im not a racist man i enjoy the company of al nationalities,i beleive we all can get along with one another if taught how to do so,the HOLY QURAN teaches mankind how to live in peace as we should be doing,the idea of a blk nation wasn't a bad idea back then,i say this b/c when ur living in someone elses house and that person treats u badly it would b an intelegent move to RUN AWAY FROM THAT WHICH DOESN'T RESPECT U
Malcolm X had the right idea. How in the hell can you expect entry into another mans house when you haven't built one of your own. Every other ethnic groups segregates themselves, builds a mini nation & then they integrate into the larger society that is how power is formed.
@nyiskillinme your analysis is right and exact. everywhere I have gone throughout this country I have seen all different nationalities doing what they should do., form a economic power base first then if they choose they will intergrate but firs establishing a base for themselves. good comment.
I respect Malcom's goal and persistence..........but in some aspects i dont agree with him......FARMER HAD A BETTER APPROACH....MLK WAS GREAT....GHANDI TOO........BUT JESUS CHRIST IS ON TOP
@Jamaari20 I agree with that but some most wont accept that cause they think it would hurt them to be identified as black just like Domanicans & Cubans...
@The1987Kid in a way it will. That just goes to show you that there was, and still is a conspiracy about blacks all over the world that keeps us from advancing, and taking pride in who we are.
@Jamaari20 Thats true but everytime black people bring that up whites are quick to say "Oh u people stop complaining i didnt enslave u", Also people who are from other countries need to be more mindful about the power structure in america they think just cause they get here & have a false sense of "ive made it why can't u black americans do the same". If only they know how this country is really ranned it doesent benefit us in no single way never have never will...
@The1987Kid They do say that they did't enslave us, but how quickly do they forget about the Jim Crow laws that they created, how quickly they for get that blacks have only be full integrated for 45 years. I'm 23 years old, integration is still new. I think this is what immigrant over looks, or chose not to think about. I think every Chines American needs to be in Arizona protesting right now, because that immigration law is nothing but the Chines Exclusion Act of 1882
@Jamaari20 Intergration was a lie i think in my opinion in a perfect world black people can seperate & have our own thing remember we had our own bussinesses & banks (remember that Tusla Riot of 1919) But everytime we make our own like we did with the Panthers with feeding black children, giving free health care, educating black childen & look what happean to that one word COINTELPRO..
@The1987Kid The FBI broke it up, and put us against each other. For example: That's why we will buy black hair care products form Koreans, and not from other Blacks. We no longer trust each other.
That finger waving Uncle Tom Farmer was incredible.
Malcolm just skewered him visually and verbally he looked like a complete idiot. The sad part is they both have the same ultimate goal, which was emancipation for the black man, I think (regarding) Farmer.
@mrhowardb Not entirely, Puerto Ricans have been lynched in their own land as well and sterilized and have been experimented on, but obviously not to the extent as Blacks in America.
How incredibly hard to stand up to a room full of people saying you are wrong, when you know you are right. So hard to stay true when everyone else is telling you its all in your head. Bravo, RIP
Malcolm X not only sought to change the legality through which black Americans were protected, but to change the culture into accepting black Americans as first class citizens. Without changing the way black people were percieved in the mindset of the people, legislation was nothing but a piece of paper because the people have to be willing to enforce the law. So all those "achievements" in North Carolina were simply short term and were minute changes, because the mindset remained the same
And James Farmer didn't? The problem with Malcolm X is (using your metaphor) that once he does escape, where does he go? Whereas Farmer is trying to reform the system in order for whites and blacks to coexist. Will it take a long time? Yes. Will it be a difficult road? Yes. But it's the only way to do it.
I don't have a problem if you disagree with MLK's methods, but to call him an Uncle Tom is not only unwarranted, but considerably inappropriate. MLK gave his life as well for the equality of people.
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WOW! I didn't realize how pro-violence Malcolm-X was...I thought out of ignorance that he was a man of peaceful resolution between whites and blacks...in the videos of this debate, he comes across as hateful and unable to work towards peace
The main issue was that Malcolm was clear on hid endgame, whereas Farmer wasn't. Farmer is still stuck in the midgame. Malcolm understands that you have to solve the problem of our people at the root as opposed to a surface level. That means that a lot of crud will come up when you get to the root of the problem.
Listen to these guys actually discussing the issues with intelligence. Watch TV now and all we see are a bunch of idiots jabbering sound bites at each other for three minutes before cutting to a Viagra commercial.
farmer is the only man who came close to beating malcolm in a debate cause farmer had a point with black hispanics ! but malcolm is right tho ! white people will always hate people of color for some reason !
Pre-Mecca Malcolm & the NOI tallked a lot of crap behind closed doors. At least the so-called "House Negros" had the B@LL$ to stand up face-to-face to WHITES and turn the other cheek without being deterred. The NOI did not lead any aggressive movement whatsoever (like the Black Panthers.) Post-Mecca Malcolm saw that NOI was using him as a PROPAGANDA tool for the White Supremecy Movement - White Nationalist loved the segregation advocacy of Pre-Mecca Malcolm & killed him when he spoke otherwise
@nem1901 it's very insincere and ignorant to call these MEN, house negroes. Do you know who James Farmer and the Freedom Riders were? They were braver and stronger than any of us will ever know.
Malcolm was a great man, but it takes a hell of a lot more courage and strength to show non-violent resistance than it does to give into the primal urge to retaliate to direct violence.
If you're an American know that these people risked their lives and often DIED for YOUR freedom. Shame on you.
@KiCreativeStudios They're house negroes because they weren't for black people standing up for themselves. Malcolm was the only leader at the time telling black people to stop relying on whites and do things for themselves. It takes more courage to stand up against an oppresive system than it does to take the same non violent stance that the government and media praised. The same non violent brothers just stood and watched as a police officer beat a black woman. That's a coward.
@KiCreativeStudios As far as I know Jesus never stood and watched as a woman was beaten and not do anything about it. Then again Jesus is a religious figure no one really knows anything about.
@sheopersaud1 Truly sorry that perhaps you are not seeing my point. What is relevant are the examples "men of peace" set for humanity and all mankind.....How history will remember their contributions to humanity. Not just today, or 50 years from now but even the next two or three millennia.
Look who was in that room the day the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed. Who was standing there? And then ask yourself, what efforts truly got that bill signed ultimately?
@KiCreativeStudios America has been free for 300 years because they stood up and fought for it. Freedom has been won through violence many times. That's just how it works. Peace only works in certain situation that's why Malcolm was for any means necessary. Peaceful methods won't have beaten the nazis.
Please bear in mind Malcolm X and NEVER raised a weapon nor a fist against any KKK, Citizen's Council member or segregationist. If he was so serious about militant action, he should have led Black Muslims into Mississippi after Medgar Evers was murdered, gone after Emmett Tills' killers or better, given protection to blacks who were trying to vote.
Which people actually went into the south and confronted the enemy face to face? Malcolm?
@KiCreativeStudios Malcolm never had to use a weapon but he kept a gun in his house for protection. He was for using violence to defend yourself not going around and getting violent with every racist in the country.
People like Lincoln Rockwell didn't want to get invovle with Malcolm because they didn't like the idea of a black man that fights back so it's not like Malcolm was ever attacked by the enemy like King and his followers were.
@sheopersaud1 Come on brother. That gun in his house was primarily for defense against Elijah Muhammad's Black Muslim zealots he knew were threatening him and his family. Everyone knows that. Malcolm X (as a Muslim) never used violence against anyone; in self defense or otherwise. Sadly the one time violence would have been understandable, Malcolm didn't defend himself.
Malcolm didn't need the permission of anyone, if he wanted to go into the south to protect black voters.
@KiCreativeStudios The black muslims were the only ones to make attempts on Malcolm's life. Other than them no one else was trying to kill Malcolm so he never had a reason to defend himself against anyone else.
Malcolm with the NOI needed Elijah's permission to do anything. After he broke with them Malcolm did get invovled with the Civil Rights struggle. That's when Lincoln stopped messing with King and his followers.
@KiCreativeStudios It's a learning process.... After Malcolm was killed the Black Panthers came with a more Militant way.... they were taken out by cointelpro.... The question is, what are you going to do? what am i going to do? the ball is in our courts.... Malcolm once said "The so called negro is afraid to bleed" he also said "The price of freedom is death'! no revolution comes without blood shead!
damn.......4:48, could u imagine wat was goin' through X's mind? these r the kind of ppl he told us 2 b careful of. trying 2 defend those pale things of their attrocities. thnx X 4 freeing me. knowing i've been deceived all my life time 2 hate myself......not knowing i'm even 10000000times better than them. jealous roasted pigs.
luv ur comment I wish he could have lived to see us have a black president but he came to do what he was supposed to do and left us.anyway i particularly luv the last sentence it really put a smile on my face! ;0)
Malcolm was lost when he thought that us as dark skin Puerto Ricans(and some light skin) was different... We all came from that West Coast of Africa and we are all Hebrew Israelites same people.
he wasn't lost nor did he think dark and light skin puerto ricans were different, what he was saying is that the dark PR weren't suffering because they were PR but cause they're skin was of a darker tone that of which was towards the likeness of black people which made them easily mistaken. it doesn't matter what religion or ethnicity you are if your skin is black or can be mistaken as black your gonna be cooked in the same pot.
this is one thing I disagree with malcolm on: afro-puertoriquenos have been enslaved far longer than those of the United States. Puerto Rico is the world's oldest colony.
Close, but not true. Slaves in the Western Hemisphere were first in Cuba and on the island of Hispaniola (Dom. Repub and Haiti). Puerto Rico and other caribbean islands followed shortly after. As far as oldest colony, the Portuguese started colonization in Africa in the 1400s.
U people are sooo fucking dumb, Peurto Rican & Cubans are mix people, they are mix with Indian, African & White & others...America still not learning yet............U American should bring ur ass over to Africa to see how real the shit instead of watching the news, its all bullshit here America, Malcolm is right u all have to wake up learn how to over step this bullshit govenment, we are not free its all lies till u die.....
its frustrating trying to make a point to someone who's stuck on stupid_farmer is completely missing the point in an attempt to please the white folks, not realizing thats the only reason they have him on da show.
tygastyl 1 week ago
No you are right, he is a uncle tom, brainwashed to the core.
kreztal 3 months ago in playlist More videos from antihostile
dude debating malcolm comes across as uncle tomish he may not be but he sounds like it
CAM8689 4 months ago
Peoples comments keep attacking James Farmer but he was ultimately right. Look at how Latinos and Arabs are being treated today not only in the south but all over the country
skinsfanh88 4 months ago
@skinsfanh88 But you must realize the time that this was done the problem was all throughout the black community. James Farmer's point looked further into the future. It is however a failing outlook, however noble. And the issues today are compounds of the avoidance of the pertinent issues that plagued the black community as a majority. You can only be shitted on so much til peolple on the outside begin to smell it too
parris4iv 4 months ago
@skinsfanh88 James Farmer and Wyatt Tee Walker actually admitted that Malcolm was right in this debate.
infox1000 2 months ago
melcum x is a dumbass for thinking puertoricans dont have it as bad. What a dumbass.
timo86m 5 months ago
@timo86m nah brah. you're the dumbass.
bringingyouthetruth1 4 months ago
@timo86m Which Puerto Ricans are you talking about? The black pr's, the white-looking pr's, or the mestizo-looking pr's?
publicatdamagnificen 3 months ago
The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammed taught him well.....
lifeistoodmshort 5 months ago
The guy debating Malcolm is Obama taking white people at their word that they gonna hire people without real concrete incentives.
VirginiaTagz 6 months ago
5:02 hahaahahah i LOVE you malcolm and i miss you my brother!
Conspiracyknowledge 6 months ago
starting at 3:04-4:15 Malcolm X looks like Obama!!!!
21bambam 6 months ago
FUCK JAMES FARMER!!!!!
toniosoulfresh 6 months ago
I love Malcolm X
OcularIllusion 7 months ago
This is wonderful stuff. Thanks so much for uploading.
RightWingHunter666 7 months ago
What the hell accent does Farmer speak with... is that UncleTomonese?
SouthDFWrep 7 months ago
@SouthDFWrep yepp, didnt you hear the "yeeah massah" in his voice?
Conspiracyknowledge 6 months ago
malcolm X always had coolness and charisma when he spoke. Even his last words "lets be cool brother" which he spoke to his assassin, carried that composure!
mrjoka212 7 months ago
Anyone, regardless of their race or gender, who actually relies upon public school for a genuine education is a fool. There are libraries everywhere; take the responsibility to educate yourself.
cosg9531 8 months ago 11
@cosg9531 Trillest comment I've seen on youtube! Big Up!
whatdaphuxxx 6 months ago
@cosg9531 Thank you!!!!! So true! There is no more revolutionary action than that of self education!
ahhhhjjjj 5 months ago
@cosg9531
MLK and the entire movement for integration were ALL heavily influenced by socialism.
3rdEYEbeHolder 4 months ago
JAMES FARMER IS SO INCORRECT. MALCOM UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PROBLEM WOULD REMAIN. HOW CAN WE HELP OTHERS IF WE CANT EVEN HELP OURSELVES. THE COMPHENSATION FOR DISCRIMINATION HAVE STILL NOT BEEN MET. THOSE BLACK WHO LIKE TO TALK INTELIGENLTY INFRONT OF WHITE ARE PUPPETS THAT WILL SAY ANYTHING TO PLEASE MASTER. fUCK AMERICA AND THE GOVERNMENT. BY ANY MEANS NECESARY.
Blackjesusmedia 8 months ago
On blog talk radio there is a show that comes on at 9pm Fri-Sunday with a brother that spits heavy science.Just type in Gyasi - Ngozi
StateOfMindPurple1 8 months ago
Amazing 1 on 3 and he is still holding his own.
unioncity 8 months ago
1:39 wow
disk0ne 9 months ago
1:39
disk0ne 9 months ago
"Why do you have a race problem if you're a member of the public?" Malcolm should have followed that with "You dip-shit!!!" If the white race weren't so suck on themselves as being superior... there wouldn't be a race problem!!! How can there be freedom if the word no longer exist?
yoursiee 9 months ago
JAMES FARMER WAS MADE TO LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE IDIOT GO BRO MALCOLM U RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dal4018 9 months ago
5:23 did that guy call malcolm X stupid?
BlackMasterJoe89 10 months ago
You'll never wipe it out with a desegregated theater.. lol.. Malcolm X is and was the truth.. No one could debate him, a true master orator.. Malcolm X is lives in me and through me everyday.. I love him forever..
mootst1 10 months ago
4:46 Malcolm: Excuse me, BS makes me sleepy. Zzzzzz X-D #LOL
Modacolorist 1 year ago 3
@Modacolorist Lmaooo, oh my god, when that camera cut to him with his eyes down I was done.
Q2IN2Y 7 months ago
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Modacolorist 1 year ago
all blacks who refuse to understand that we must go for self and leave our oppressors alone can get rolled over along with the crakkkas. the only agenda black people must have is an all black agenda. Private schools specifically to teach our children the proper knowledge of themselves and black businesses in black areas. All Arabs, jews and asians need to be kicked the hell out of our neighborhoods and take their asses back to their own neighborhoods and do business.This is serious business
shiest13 1 year ago 3
2:12 he this dude roll his head?? lol
Cazzady 1 year ago
we are fighting against our self and the white man is just laughing and watching on his show wow isnt that sad .
wbooker10 1 year ago
fuck james farmer
teck9troublesome 1 year ago
Malcolm destroyed all those Uncle Toms,I can see why things didnt get done and were still struggling today so sad!
terino6 1 year ago 3
These crab-ass uncle toms are killin' us, black people. "The black race can't afford you no more" is what Malcolm should've said to these bootlickin, apple-polishing, butt-sniffin black devils...
JulesGunn 1 year ago 6
@JulesGunn Nah homey, these black men weren't uncle toms, any man trying to help black people is no uncle tom.
MrThekidisback 8 months ago
@MrThekidisback they're called the Talented Tenth, a sub-section of self-loathing, white man-worshipping, and closeted homosexual blacks who feel fundamentally uncomfortable around their own people. These modern day house niggas subvert and undermine their own kind at the behest of their masters, the white man. Malcolm knew this and that's why these Boule devils challenged brother Malcolm at every turn. Quit playing dumb or get w/ the program or I'ma send the "Drop Squad" after you and yours...
JulesGunn 8 months ago
@JulesGunn Shut the fuck up, you aint sending shit bitch! You better get with the program, fuck are you talking about
MrThekidisback 8 months ago
@MrThekidisback - haha! that's the best you got, son? So sad. That's how someone w/ minimal intellect would respond. I just told you who's running shit and it went right over your head. There's obviously no shortage of criminally stupid assholes like you in the world.
JulesGunn 8 months ago
@MrThekidisback any black that SAYS he wants to help blacks can still be an uncle tom! I'm looking for blacks that DO help blacks and blacks really need to help themselves more than anything! I say fuck white liberals because they bring down "aid" that does more economic harm than good because it affronts the free market system that effectively allows wealth to be created within communities. you'd be surprised by how much price controls to "help" blacks end up destroying their communities.
Ravengaurd6 7 months ago
@Ravengaurd6 well said
BlackMessiahX 7 months ago
@BlackMessiahX thank you. Brother Malcolm knew what he said,said what he meant and meant what he said.
two black economist: Walter Williams & Thomas Sowell will back Brother Malcolm up on this truth and this argument.
these two men I just mentioned are often called uncle toms because they're republicans but the ones who accuse them of this don't even READ their work or assess their argument. These fools believe that anyone that isnt afraid to criticize blacks for their failures is a race traitor
Ravengaurd6 7 months ago
4:46-4:52 is priceless! He's thinking, "Dis house nigga!" lol
sahara1924 1 year ago 29
@sahara1924 I feel you on that!
yoursiee 9 months ago
@sahara1924 Clowns like this are the main reason I left christianity to begin with. Sitting in the middle of a country that exists in comfort BECAUSE of violence is the very backbone of hypocrisy. White men say it all the time when they talk to "liberals" about nonviolence.
Yet when a black face says you have the right to bear arms against tyranny, suddenly it's racism.
Oh, and Ghandi a bigot, pedophile, and a fraud. fact
3rdEYEbeHolder 4 months ago
@3rdEYEbeHolder
The only time when violence is bad is when pale American behinds are on the receiving end
3rdEYEbeHolder 4 months ago
Obama and the beating of a white man and Kidnapping of white people.
Today White Man gets punched by black man if he questions OBAMA
"We Are Change VA heckles Obama about Bilderberg "look up
This is the same crap but white man being held back by Obama.
Does it work the same for Blacks as Whites?Obama live in a white house made by slaves and nothing has changed.watch video amazing .
conspiracymedia 1 year ago
Freedom Riders were some of the strongest, bravest, selfless people involved in the movement. Action speaks louder than words, rhetoric and being glib.
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
james farmer won. malcolm x is very intelligent, no doubt that, but he lost the debate
scatcoitus 1 year ago
@scatcoitus If James won why is the problem still here?
sheopersaud1 1 year ago
@scatcoitus Though they were desegragated as a sense of being able to be attend downtown and the movie theater or being employed doesnt mean inside those places the whites wasnt racist anymore and blacks werent being descriminated against inside those place which was in control of the white man .. so James Farmer probably won but he wasnt right either ...
MrPaycloseattention 1 year ago
WHAT DOES HE MEAN ??? PUERTO HAS TONS OF BLACKS !!!!
I'M ONE OF THEM !!!
dano122772 1 year ago
I really get tired of people using the terms Puerto Rican, Dominican, Cuban as if they refer to a particular race. These terms only state ones nationality or decent. People from these places can be of any race.
illouie 1 year ago
That's a good debate. I feel james farmer had the advantage at the beginning especially with the Porto Rican thing but X later on turned it over with the theatre thing. ' Is it a game to go to a theatre for a man who doesn'T have a job'
figthersdreams 1 year ago
sorry.....but James Earl Farmer was was more highly educated than Malcolm X. Malcolm X was somewhat educated but mostly brainwashed from Elijah and had more of an open mind. James Earl Farmer spoke true facts.......
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis how can u say that Farmer was more highly educated than Malcolm? There are several types of education. I know PHD's that can not debate a computer hacker about computers. A cheap analogy, but I hope u get the point. Farmer is calling entry to a movie, progress. Malcolm is saying that intergration will not solve the problems facing the so-called negro. I think white businesses should be allowed to deny whom ever they choose. Why beg your oppressor to help u get himself off your neck?
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr i can say so because while Malcolm X had his vision blurred by constant negativity and kind of hostile thinking....James Earl Farmer had way more education back ground and had more of an open mind to certain aspects regarding racism. And after all,,,When Malcolm X went to Mecca and saw in the temple different races being integrated and acting as one...this made Malcolm X change his theories on segregation.Actually integration would solve the problem way more .
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis because people of different races could perhaps understand of the opposite race more and so it would perhaps take some of the fear and stereotype of each other. After all in the end Malcolm preached what he had gone previously against. I have both books on james farmer and malcolm....i read both and my analysis is that James was more of an educated and had more of an open mind
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis Open mind? You mean open to brainwashing. I like Farmer and he was a great man in his own right, but I disagree with him on some major points
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr he didnt brain wash anyone. If its for this.....MALCOLM X was brain washed and later discovered that he was wrong
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis Hostile thinking? What type of thinking should the victim of oppression have? Farmer was more educated by his oppressor's way of thinking than Malcolm, but Malcolm had him beat in the area of common sense. Farmer believed that his oppressor was interested in his plight. He got this type of thinking from his great education, which is what they wanted him to think. Boule-look it up. Malcolm was way ahead of his time.
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr yes its bad and hostile thinking when someone thinks as some race being the DEVIL as he so often spoke off and james farmer never said such trash. Malcolm common sene as you say was pretty much his own opinions and did not have much of a conclusive thought. he might have been smart in certain aspects but in others he was ignorant and one track minded.
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis FOA, Malcolm did not create this bogus concept of "race". This concept was created by Euros that believed they were not only the original people, but superior to all. This type of thinking is rather new(in the context of history).This type of thinking led to the holocaust and the brutality directed towards so-called blacks. Would a Jew be wrong to think Nazis were devils?There is no such thing as a "white race", scientifically that is.Ever heard women say men r dogs? Get the point?
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr I never said that Malcolm created it but he was brainwashed when Muhammad had taught him that The whie man was THE DEVIL and that there was no way that the white man could be trusted generalizing everyone which of course was a huge fallacy. And yes there is WHITE RACE also because the quakers and the englishman where considered white when they stole and killed ther natives of this country USA. to take over land. Everyone at some point tries to hurt an opposite race unfortunately
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis He had several incidents in his own personal life that led him to feel the way he did long before the Nation. NOI attracts a lot of young bros because they speak to the problems they r facing. I have issues with the Nation, but they exposed a lot of truth that bros did not know. Like I mentioned before, the term race is scientifically invalid. It is a social construct created to apply a psychological importance to a skin color. Is the albino child of dark parents a race?GTP!
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr unfortunately since blacks felt oppresed back in th day and it was just a shame for what they had to go through....it could good to honestly say that malcom wanted to get out of that bad situation regarding oppresion and discrimintaion and so he felt great when he saw that there was someone like Elijah that could help him.
An alnino child of dark parents can be a mixture of different races..it does not neccessarily mean that it is just one race.
benjianubis 1 year ago
@123bigr I believe that the word expression of THE DEVIL shouldnt be used for certain instances. I guess the word was used because of the bad way someone or some group had become and thus was categorized in a bad way. However as far as generalizing is concerned its not good because the truth is that some white people did enslave blacks but also some white people did take he blacks out of bondage and gave them their freedom otherwise if all whites were the same then blacks woul still be slaves
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis I do not like generalizations either, but that is what is done in America. All so-called blacks can dance? So-called Whites r smarter than blks. Blks can not run long distances. Blks make bad fathers. Blks r thieves. A few blks can do something bad and all blks r made to feel responsible. However, Dahmer can eat people and no one looks at all whites as being serial killers. We are each individual beings that have our own way of thinking. Our skin tone does not dictate our actions
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr And yes..you're right because as far as Malcolm generalizing certain issues regarding whites.....he did that a whole lot. Thats what I mean when I say that James was more open as to not generalize and see some things in a different way and or point of view. And no....just because someone is black ot white...it doesnt mean that he/she can do it better than the other. All of mankind has intelligence to do well and progress in life as you say.
benjianubis 1 year ago
@123bigr Malcolm X was a brilliant man with no doubt but James Farmer had more of broad mind and didnt just stick wth one theory only which pretty much is explained in some of the you tube videos here.
AFTER ALL...MALCOLM X went the same route after visiting MECCA.
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis What theory did Malcolm stick too? This is why race is bogus. How can U tell if someone is part of the so-called white race? What race does Obama belong too? How about Tiger Woods? Do you even know your own ancient ancestry? The differences U see in humans is caused by mutations. These mutations can happen over time or in a single generation. The blue eye is a mutation of the brown eye, but a mutation does not create a race. A brown lion gave birth to albino cubs. New race? GTP
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr The theory that the WHITE MAN WAS THE DEVIL...that was his enlightement from muhammad but then had a change of theory after mecca. I alrerady mentioned this more than once and we are not debating here as to what nationality or race someone is but you and I were talking about the Malcolm and James Farmer as to who is more knowledgeable and open minded in certain aspects. But either way I see your poin tof view in different pigmentation of skin color but we are in a different topic
benjianubis 1 year ago
@benjianubis You use the term "race" & then ask me why I am debating it. I say that the concept of race, as it is used in America, is scientifically invalid. The use of this bogus concept has caused much of what you are talking about. I must say that "race" is a social construct & it is the social use of an invalid concept that is at the root of many issues. Elijah & Malcolm are products of this society, so they naturally practiced the bogus concept of race. It is not an easy concept to correct
123bigr 1 year ago
@123bigr Yes but when I use the word RACE...I am merely indicating about some of the racist remarks regarding that some of the whites and blacks practiced back then and how people were oppressed and discriminated for being of a certain color. I understand that racism was higher in America than other countries regarding blacks. It is a social construct but unfortunately it was and in some ways now its still used to discriminate instead of validating the person with the intelligence itself.
benjianubis 1 year ago
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@123bigr because people of different races could perhaps understand of the opposite race more and so it would perhaps take some of the fear and stereotype of each other. After all in the end Malcolm preached what he had gone previously against. I have both books on james farmer and malcolm....i read both and my analysis is that James was more of an educated and had more of an open mind
benjianubis 1 year ago
Who is the other guy talking to Malcom X (to the right of him)?
mjonausk 1 year ago
this north carolina guy dnt no wa his talkin abt lol
Johnskinner2010 1 year ago
it seems to me that whites like it best when we accept settling for less as long as we are happy with nothing then they are happy as well I find it interesting that they find it offensive when we stand up for ourselves I have to say that I somewhat disagree with Dr. King he is teaching to ball up and take the beating and minister malcom teaches us to defend ourselves the same thing that our own mother,father or brother would teach us
dopeboyfresh291 1 year ago
this shit is so funny how this man calling blacks at that time racist when there were white only and for blacks only restrooms, blacks couldn't sit in front on the bus,since u know u produded this in a people,means ur the only racist,cuz think of the fear the blacks lived in at that time,u did a good job of turning blacks against each other also .it turned black org.on aginst each other when there soppose to be fighting for the same coz freedom and justice.still happing today.
floydssp 1 year ago
both Mlk and malcolm x were very ispiring black leaders MLK knew that violence wasn't the answere as it would only make whites angrier at blacks. thats why he staged boycotts to hurt them financially and make people sympathetic in the marches Lk paved the way for malcolm x. malcolm x is right that we should defend ourselves but you gotta understand that blacks were backed up against the wall. if they fought they would have been beat jailed and enslaved again then what
geoxyxy 1 year ago
sooo now my people cant move own from those days we were hurt jailed beat enslaved sooo wen somebody stands up we get called gay and shit i thought it wud be different than this i thought girls boys etc cud get along and play on the block instead we need to worry about gettin shot fuck the crips and the bloods there the real devils cumin outa my people
MrCuculoco 1 year ago
ماااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااالكم أيـــــــها الشهيد
رحمك الله يا اخي وجمعنا معك بالفردوس الأعلى
اللهم آمين اللهم صلي وسلم على محمد
heeeemoooo 1 year ago
The big guy keeps on using a finger as Tool to prove a point...damn
MrHimeezembi 1 year ago
@MrHimeezembi damn man u r right
heeeemoooo 1 year ago
Basically we (Blacks) have many leaders. James L. Farmer, Jr. look into his history he was a very brave man look at the "Great Debaters" movie it was about his life. Our leaders, alot of them had to go against tremendous odds. So i cant agree with this defaming one to pump up another.
lhamlett 1 year ago
Farmer is really mad.
Raydaniels1 1 year ago
"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal"-Martin Luther King
"Let The Lord judge the real criminals" Tupac Shakur
If you live in the state of Arizona. please dont vote in favor of the SB1070. I'm Mexican and I truly admire Malcolm X because we Mexicans can really relate to Malcolm X. I hope that many African Americans listen to this man
JustBoughtABenz 1 year ago
well Malcom X was wrong about at least one thing. He made it seem like if whites and blacks were given equal rgihts the country might go down , or something like that. . . . . . . .
radiolaugh 1 year ago
Martin Luther king was a fraud, it just goes to show that you never really listened to him. Martin luther king cared nothing for blacks or muslims, rather the opposite martin luther king called ALL muslims infidels in his i have a dream speech. Martin luther king was a ZIONIST. If you think he made a contribution to OUR advancement your as foolish as bush. In Malcolm X's speech on the house negro and filed negro, it was directed towards Martin luther king
MalcolmXBP 1 year ago 3
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lhamlett 1 year ago
@lhamlett where do you get your facts? MLK didnt do shit for black people read the FACTS. till this DAY we are still oppressed, Malcolm X made us speak up as a people, he told us it was ok to fight/die for what we believe in, MLK didnt do shit.
read/listen to his i have a dream speech, PLEASE. Elijah Mohammad was/is a fraud, thats why Brother X left N.O.I . if you speak on Malcolm please make sure you check before you post anything, ive studied malcolm x and almost everyone around him
MalcolmXBP 1 year ago
@MalcolmXBP Careful. The sweetest things about having both Malcolm and MLK was that they BOTH were educated, and master ORATORS of that specific time especially in that era.
Sileni 1 year ago
@Sileni MLK didnt do shit for blacks. im not going to be careful
the proof is in the pudding. MLK did NOT like blacks or muslims
when Malcolm X gave the house negro and the field negro speech it was directed towards MLK.
MalcolmXBP 1 year ago
@lhamlett P.S how long did MLK movement last for and what was accomplished?
in the OVERALL not at the time he did the march or the speech.
i await for your reply
MalcolmXBP 1 year ago
@MalcolmXBP
nope. I haven't see any accomplishments.
CloudsofBliss 1 year ago
if not for martin L king,we would still be in segration today,fighting only brings more fighting..think about it,martin l king was genious,he united us while malcom x tried 2 seperate us from whites..he couldnt see the big picture like dr king..not 2take anything away from mr x,but malcom x was for only black ppl,dr. king's non violent tactics made racist white ppl in those days look like monsters..his ways made our liberties today possible,so i agree wit non-violence in those times
str8OuttaNaptown30 1 year ago
@str8OuttaNaptown30 "he united us while malcom x tried 2 seperate us from whites"
If blacks and whites are so united why do we still have black neighborhoods and white neighborhoods along with black schools and white schools? Why the two races follow a more uniform culture? Why do I see words like 'nigger' and 'ape' all over the internet everyday? Are we really together or is there still separation?
GGLebo23 1 year ago
@GGLebo23 think in terms of the progress of today and relate it to those days..its all of Dr. King's methods..now true,there is still divison amongst SOME! but back then segration was law,not choice..if we're not united den how come there are interracial relationships,ur just too literal in terms of being united..ppl will always segregate themselves from eachother due 2 culture & sometimes race,dats not only here in america,but even in africa..dats just human nature..so ur point is inaccurate
str8OuttaNaptown30 1 year ago
many bright minds in this room. they could have done much more for us if they didnt argue against eachother and give their true opponents the ability to recover
KillLikeAids 1 year ago
cont; a dog if treated inhuman by its master if given the opportunity to flee,would run FAST,& would not look back,& if its master were to chase it screaming he will treat it better that dog would keep it moving,unless that dog is crippled.blind,& crazy in the mind,then that dog would lick its owm hind part & like a fool stay put,which is what many house negros decided to do.what a DUMBASS DOG HE WAS
bigtappe 1 year ago
i am muslim,im not a racist man i enjoy the company of al nationalities,i beleive we all can get along with one another if taught how to do so,the HOLY QURAN teaches mankind how to live in peace as we should be doing,the idea of a blk nation wasn't a bad idea back then,i say this b/c when ur living in someone elses house and that person treats u badly it would b an intelegent move to RUN AWAY FROM THAT WHICH DOESN'T RESPECT U
bigtappe 1 year ago
Malcolm X had the right idea. How in the hell can you expect entry into another mans house when you haven't built one of your own. Every other ethnic groups segregates themselves, builds a mini nation & then they integrate into the larger society that is how power is formed.
nyiskillinme 1 year ago
@nyiskillinme your analysis is right and exact. everywhere I have gone throughout this country I have seen all different nationalities doing what they should do., form a economic power base first then if they choose they will intergrate but firs establishing a base for themselves. good comment.
leecool1956 1 year ago
@nyiskillinme Thats the truth brother but these negros still like to go & help other peoples homes when we havent even built ours...
The1987Kid 1 year ago
man i wish i were alive to see this live
jeffnfoxylady1 1 year ago
@jeffnfoxylady1 you wish u were alive to see that ? look whats going on around us now and all u wanna do is spectate?
225masterblaster 1 year ago
James Farmer, where ever you are you fat bastard.....its 2010 and the problem is still here.
brobro565656 1 year ago 3
i like dont look on his at 4;45 4;52
GUMP109 1 year ago
I respect Malcom's goal and persistence..........but in some aspects i dont agree with him......FARMER HAD A BETTER APPROACH....MLK WAS GREAT....GHANDI TOO........BUT JESUS CHRIST IS ON TOP
giltax14 1 year ago
@giltax14 your out of touch with the problem because 45 years later we still have this issue and in many respects its a lot worse
leecool1956 1 year ago
Porto Ricans are Black
Jamaari20 1 year ago
@Jamaari20 I agree with that but some most wont accept that cause they think it would hurt them to be identified as black just like Domanicans & Cubans...
The1987Kid 1 year ago
@The1987Kid in a way it will. That just goes to show you that there was, and still is a conspiracy about blacks all over the world that keeps us from advancing, and taking pride in who we are.
Jamaari20 1 year ago
@Jamaari20 Thats true but everytime black people bring that up whites are quick to say "Oh u people stop complaining i didnt enslave u", Also people who are from other countries need to be more mindful about the power structure in america they think just cause they get here & have a false sense of "ive made it why can't u black americans do the same". If only they know how this country is really ranned it doesent benefit us in no single way never have never will...
The1987Kid 1 year ago
@The1987Kid They do say that they did't enslave us, but how quickly do they forget about the Jim Crow laws that they created, how quickly they for get that blacks have only be full integrated for 45 years. I'm 23 years old, integration is still new. I think this is what immigrant over looks, or chose not to think about. I think every Chines American needs to be in Arizona protesting right now, because that immigration law is nothing but the Chines Exclusion Act of 1882
Jamaari20 1 year ago
@Jamaari20 Intergration was a lie i think in my opinion in a perfect world black people can seperate & have our own thing remember we had our own bussinesses & banks (remember that Tusla Riot of 1919) But everytime we make our own like we did with the Panthers with feeding black children, giving free health care, educating black childen & look what happean to that one word COINTELPRO..
The1987Kid 1 year ago
@The1987Kid The FBI broke it up, and put us against each other. For example: That's why we will buy black hair care products form Koreans, and not from other Blacks. We no longer trust each other.
Jamaari20 1 year ago
That finger waving Uncle Tom Farmer was incredible.
Malcolm just skewered him visually and verbally he looked like a complete idiot. The sad part is they both have the same ultimate goal, which was emancipation for the black man, I think (regarding) Farmer.
mrhowardb 1 year ago 13
@mrhowardb Not entirely, Puerto Ricans have been lynched in their own land as well and sterilized and have been experimented on, but obviously not to the extent as Blacks in America.
faissa2 1 year ago
I find it ironic that Gandhi's non violent methods inspired the same blacks he disliked.
BMrapper 2 years ago 12
MALCOLM X 4 EVA he spoke the truth no matter who he was speaking to just look at James Farmer modify his views according to what the interviewer asks
RexLawson4eva 2 years ago 4
How incredibly hard to stand up to a room full of people saying you are wrong, when you know you are right. So hard to stay true when everyone else is telling you its all in your head. Bravo, RIP
braveheartlioncarebe 2 years ago
Malcolm X not only sought to change the legality through which black Americans were protected, but to change the culture into accepting black Americans as first class citizens. Without changing the way black people were percieved in the mindset of the people, legislation was nothing but a piece of paper because the people have to be willing to enforce the law. So all those "achievements" in North Carolina were simply short term and were minute changes, because the mindset remained the same
qasim88 2 years ago 4
And James Farmer didn't? The problem with Malcolm X is (using your metaphor) that once he does escape, where does he go? Whereas Farmer is trying to reform the system in order for whites and blacks to coexist. Will it take a long time? Yes. Will it be a difficult road? Yes. But it's the only way to do it.
Video0879 2 years ago
martin luther king
did none....uncle tom he was
malcom x was right !!!
the priece of freedom is death and blood !!
we shall over come........came after all
those peoples gave theirs lifes
for freedom !!
banlieusards 2 years ago 2
I don't have a problem if you disagree with MLK's methods, but to call him an Uncle Tom is not only unwarranted, but considerably inappropriate. MLK gave his life as well for the equality of people.
Video0879 2 years ago
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WOW! I didn't realize how pro-violence Malcolm-X was...I thought out of ignorance that he was a man of peaceful resolution between whites and blacks...in the videos of this debate, he comes across as hateful and unable to work towards peace
goivan7 2 years ago
ALL HOUSE NIGGAS MUST HANG!
MIDNIGHT1DEMO 2 years ago 3
The main issue was that Malcolm was clear on hid endgame, whereas Farmer wasn't. Farmer is still stuck in the midgame. Malcolm understands that you have to solve the problem of our people at the root as opposed to a surface level. That means that a lot of crud will come up when you get to the root of the problem.
BSCI70 2 years ago
wow, no wonder the south is so fucked up. this idiot thought that was a gain
Azzaiel 2 years ago 3
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peasah2005 2 years ago
@peasah2005
Malcolm knew the situtation what African people were facing.
James Farmer is a stooge for the Uncle Sam Government, because he didn't do anything for the causes of Africans.
When you listen to him, he didn't like when Malcolm was lauching his attacks against Kennedy.
peasah2005 11 months ago
Malcolm X was the man may he rest he piece...........he spoke so matter-of-factly he cannot be shut down period he speaks the truth and he knew it
JcCake112 2 years ago
Who in their right mind would discriminate two brilliant minds like Malcolm X or Mr. Farmer??
bichomaldito 2 years ago 3
GO MALCOLM!!!!
kashback11 2 years ago 2
Listen to these guys actually discussing the issues with intelligence. Watch TV now and all we see are a bunch of idiots jabbering sound bites at each other for three minutes before cutting to a Viagra commercial.
CribNotes 2 years ago 6
James Farmer is a sell-out because these so-called civil rights leader are working for Uncle Sam in order to stop Africans in fighting to be free.
peasah2005 2 years ago
farmer is the only man who came close to beating malcolm in a debate cause farmer had a point with black hispanics ! but malcolm is right tho ! white people will always hate people of color for some reason !
thisisharlemknighttv 2 years ago
cuz it's in their dna.... part of that devil race shit they have in them
SithLordNefaar022 2 years ago
look at Malcolm surrounded by those sorryass House Negros !!!!!
nem1901 2 years ago 26
The don't know who's worse, a white devil or a house negro. They are probably both as bad as each other.
ezekielthemack 2 years ago 4
HOUSE NEGROS ARE WORSEEEEE
thisisharlemknighttv 2 years ago
Pre-Mecca Malcolm & the NOI tallked a lot of crap behind closed doors. At least the so-called "House Negros" had the B@LL$ to stand up face-to-face to WHITES and turn the other cheek without being deterred. The NOI did not lead any aggressive movement whatsoever (like the Black Panthers.) Post-Mecca Malcolm saw that NOI was using him as a PROPAGANDA tool for the White Supremecy Movement - White Nationalist loved the segregation advocacy of Pre-Mecca Malcolm & killed him when he spoke otherwise
TankTube5000 1 year ago
@nem1901 it's very insincere and ignorant to call these MEN, house negroes. Do you know who James Farmer and the Freedom Riders were? They were braver and stronger than any of us will ever know.
Malcolm was a great man, but it takes a hell of a lot more courage and strength to show non-violent resistance than it does to give into the primal urge to retaliate to direct violence.
If you're an American know that these people risked their lives and often DIED for YOUR freedom. Shame on you.
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
@KiCreativeStudios They're house negroes because they weren't for black people standing up for themselves. Malcolm was the only leader at the time telling black people to stop relying on whites and do things for themselves. It takes more courage to stand up against an oppresive system than it does to take the same non violent stance that the government and media praised. The same non violent brothers just stood and watched as a police officer beat a black woman. That's a coward.
sheopersaud1 1 year ago
@sheopersaud1
I guess that makes Jesus Christ a coward too, right?
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
@KiCreativeStudios As far as I know Jesus never stood and watched as a woman was beaten and not do anything about it. Then again Jesus is a religious figure no one really knows anything about.
sheopersaud1 1 year ago
@sheopersaud1 Truly sorry that perhaps you are not seeing my point. What is relevant are the examples "men of peace" set for humanity and all mankind.....How history will remember their contributions to humanity. Not just today, or 50 years from now but even the next two or three millennia.
Look who was in that room the day the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed. Who was standing there? And then ask yourself, what efforts truly got that bill signed ultimately?
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
@KiCreativeStudios America has been free for 300 years because they stood up and fought for it. Freedom has been won through violence many times. That's just how it works. Peace only works in certain situation that's why Malcolm was for any means necessary. Peaceful methods won't have beaten the nazis.
sheopersaud1 1 year ago
@sheopersaud1 Just will have to agree to disagree.
Please bear in mind Malcolm X and NEVER raised a weapon nor a fist against any KKK, Citizen's Council member or segregationist. If he was so serious about militant action, he should have led Black Muslims into Mississippi after Medgar Evers was murdered, gone after Emmett Tills' killers or better, given protection to blacks who were trying to vote.
Which people actually went into the south and confronted the enemy face to face? Malcolm?
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
@KiCreativeStudios Malcolm never had to use a weapon but he kept a gun in his house for protection. He was for using violence to defend yourself not going around and getting violent with every racist in the country.
People like Lincoln Rockwell didn't want to get invovle with Malcolm because they didn't like the idea of a black man that fights back so it's not like Malcolm was ever attacked by the enemy like King and his followers were.
sheopersaud1 1 year ago
@sheopersaud1 Come on brother. That gun in his house was primarily for defense against Elijah Muhammad's Black Muslim zealots he knew were threatening him and his family. Everyone knows that. Malcolm X (as a Muslim) never used violence against anyone; in self defense or otherwise. Sadly the one time violence would have been understandable, Malcolm didn't defend himself.
Malcolm didn't need the permission of anyone, if he wanted to go into the south to protect black voters.
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
@KiCreativeStudios The black muslims were the only ones to make attempts on Malcolm's life. Other than them no one else was trying to kill Malcolm so he never had a reason to defend himself against anyone else.
Malcolm with the NOI needed Elijah's permission to do anything. After he broke with them Malcolm did get invovled with the Civil Rights struggle. That's when Lincoln stopped messing with King and his followers.
sheopersaud1 1 year ago
@sheopersaud1 Indeed that is true.
I am sorry I am not a supporter of Malcolm's time with the NOI. However one can only think where Malcolm X would have went had he lived.
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
@KiCreativeStudios It's a learning process.... After Malcolm was killed the Black Panthers came with a more Militant way.... they were taken out by cointelpro.... The question is, what are you going to do? what am i going to do? the ball is in our courts.... Malcolm once said "The so called negro is afraid to bleed" he also said "The price of freedom is death'! no revolution comes without blood shead!
trainorgohome 1 year ago
malcolm x was (and still IS) the greatest!
mchc88 2 years ago 18
damn.......4:48, could u imagine wat was goin' through X's mind? these r the kind of ppl he told us 2 b careful of. trying 2 defend those pale things of their attrocities. thnx X 4 freeing me. knowing i've been deceived all my life time 2 hate myself......not knowing i'm even 10000000times better than them. jealous roasted pigs.
stylenstine 2 years ago 6
luv ur comment I wish he could have lived to see us have a black president but he came to do what he was supposed to do and left us.anyway i particularly luv the last sentence it really put a smile on my face! ;0)
montereyhippie 2 years ago
Malcolm was lost when he thought that us as dark skin Puerto Ricans(and some light skin) was different... We all came from that West Coast of Africa and we are all Hebrew Israelites same people.
Cwynn83 2 years ago
he wasn't lost nor did he think dark and light skin puerto ricans were different, what he was saying is that the dark PR weren't suffering because they were PR but cause they're skin was of a darker tone that of which was towards the likeness of black people which made them easily mistaken. it doesn't matter what religion or ethnicity you are if your skin is black or can be mistaken as black your gonna be cooked in the same pot.
taytizz 2 years ago
CAN'T PROVE SIMularity by the way that you, as puerto ricans,are slow to communicate on the real with african americans here in this country.
289airborn48 2 years ago
Malcolm's intellectual capacity was astronomical...
thelight1906 2 years ago 4
Malcolm was so cool. He was seething listening to Farmer talking that bs.
atheistasylum 2 years ago 4
this is one thing I disagree with malcolm on: afro-puertoriquenos have been enslaved far longer than those of the United States. Puerto Rico is the world's oldest colony.
lovelyshadeofred 2 years ago
Close, but not true. Slaves in the Western Hemisphere were first in Cuba and on the island of Hispaniola (Dom. Repub and Haiti). Puerto Rico and other caribbean islands followed shortly after. As far as oldest colony, the Portuguese started colonization in Africa in the 1400s.
swdanielson 2 years ago
U people are sooo fucking dumb, Peurto Rican & Cubans are mix people, they are mix with Indian, African & White & others...America still not learning yet............U American should bring ur ass over to Africa to see how real the shit instead of watching the news, its all bullshit here America, Malcolm is right u all have to wake up learn how to over step this bullshit govenment, we are not free its all lies till u die.....
SOVIETTIGER1 2 years ago 6