This person is VERY misinformed and makes inaccurate claims about the outlawed and outdated racist one drop rule. Slavery had nothing to do w/ race. You were only a slave if your mother was a slave. So therefore it was matrineal. Multiracial designations were well acknowledged thruout history but that changed during the Jim Crow era. 1930 was the last year that mulattoes were acknowledged in the U.S.A censuses!
well is it so hard to understand that mixed black americans identify themselves with black people more than white, when the white genes come from rapings of their ancestors.
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what the what,what ever this dude is right 1st there aint no black race just like there is no whites its been accepted that people that we dont call mexicans color is what say thats not ethnic group one if your half black yout black if your 30% black your black,obama is half and he is considerd black thats country in the time we live in if you dont like build a dalorian and ride your ass to 2999,i got cousins whiter than snow and there dad is black so they are considered black
It was NOT "a trace of African American (AA)" that listed a person as "Black"!! It was "a trace of BLACK" that made many AAs falsely listed as "Black"!! African-American (AA) is NOT a synonym for 'Black' & it is NOT the 'Black' RACE group!! The AAs are a largely Multiracial ETHNIC group made ONLY of "the 'descendants-of-the-survivors' of the chattel-slavery system once found on the continental US"!!
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this poor brotha is so confused. as much proper and eloquent as he speaks, he's talking about nothing at all. he lost me when he says forget about your ancestors. don't get confused because he is. if you have a european last name you got some white blood in you EASY. LOL shitt.
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Not very accurate on the history of the one drop rule. If you want to read a more accurate accounting, go to backintyme and look up Frank Sweet's essays. Racism was epitomized in many apartheid societies like the USA and South Africa, but it wasn't necessarily started by them. A lot of the racial foundations came from Islamic slavery. They had a tremendous impact on Moorish Spain.
I indentified myself mix-race in UK and Europe. On my Brazilian birth certificate states that I am a pardo. My mother is a cabocla (mix between black & native Indian) and my father is white European. I didn`t choose to be a pardo that is my Identity; I am a mix of races. You know what this is all about? Is about an ethnic minority being scared of be extinguished. Black race will soon not exist anymore because the white, Asian, and the fast growing Mix-race are predominant.
The white Elite and politicians accept this one drop rule not because they want to protect the black race from dying off but because if the Black race eventually get extinguished it will make them look really bad for not only slaved, abused blacks but as well to have created an ant-black society where is better not to exist than be black.
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Black people shouldn`t try to sum up with mix-race to make them look as if they were in a larger number ,they should take pride of their beautiful colour and culture and reproduce between themselves and let the other race do the same.
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It's really interesting that he focuses on that misconception that thinks that when your talking about multiraciality you're talking about ancestry, genetics and how your great great great grandfather was this or that. It's not about genes, it's about identity.
He's wrong on one thing. It was through your mother, not the "One Drop Rule", that determined that you were a slave. The One-Drop Rule was not in U.S. law until 1930. In Anglo-America (not French or Spanish territories) if your mother was slave you were, if mother was free you were, regardless of race.
@Killbbob: Go fuck yourself, you evil son of a bitch! I am NOT Biracial and I do not even have a "white" mom. All of my grandparents are "multiracial". Go die in a hole you scum shit!
@DaTruth2024 You're mixing facts. The truth is that Tennessee adopted a one-drop statute in 1910 aka the “one-drop rule.” Not 1930. 1930 was when the rule became a stronghold in US law over many states. Prior to this multiracials were seen as mulatto. Being born a slave wouldn't matter in regards to the one drop rule because slavery ended in 1865, the one drop rule was part of the Jim Crow era. He said the one drop rule determined whether you were black or white. Not a slave or free.
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I found out that many African Americans are mixed with Native American. Redd Foxx was 1/4 Seminole Indian. Florence Ballard of The Supremes was black and Native American. Chris Tucker is also black and Native American.
Well, it's not only slave rape. There were real relationships between white males/black females and black males/white females, free or slave. Esp. with the creoles of color and in the caribbean.
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I'm multi-racial and my great great great grandfather was black and he marry a white women.He wasn't a slave either.Allot of white people also marry natives,blacks,......long ago in the caribbean.
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@BiracialGirl1977 you hide my comment? i said nothing bad.yah i know that black slaves were in the caribbean but my ancestor came from africa on his own.
not every black person long ago were slaves.I know many people from the caribbean whose white ancestor married a black person and i doubt that they were all slaves.From the stories I hear ,it seems that places like america and canada were more strict about interacial marriage in the past.
@BiracialGirl1977 the only way to be certain about my ancestor is getting records of him.well i'm more interested in getting info about the ethnics in my background since i already know the races.....
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Well there are many professionals debating stating that in genetic studies many AAs are not of Native descent, or less than 5%, but an estimated 56 % of AAs have atleast 18.5 European genes.
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To be honest with everyone is mixed with some people its more obivious. Even though I am black looking at photos of my relatives I know other races are in my background. Doesn't mean I am not proud of My American African heritage but dna is the truth and yu can find any and everything.
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This stuff is so interesting. Its so strange that no one but this guy seems to notice how society accepts that while the term "black" may be offensive to some "african american" people, nobody considers that "white" might be an objectionable term. I complained at georgia tech this year at having to fill out "white" on a form which offered "african american" as an option and they looked at me like I was nuts!
@wcibbt your right.white should be offensive in america.i prefer calling someone by their name or the country they came from[example irish,french,....].i live in canada and calling someone black,white or whatevr isn't offensive like in america.
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For one Afro African (black) people don't speak their Indigenous language, practice their Indigenous religion, cuisine, culture, etc...
For the longest time, Afro African (blacks) have been fighting for "European (white) privileges"...that's what the MLK Jr's., DREAM was all about!
No wonder Afro African (black) males desperately seek European (white) and non-Afro African (black) women to marry and date as a way to make babies....because being LESS Afro African (blacks) ...is PRICELESS!
black males DO NOT desperately seek European women (a small group do, some for insecurity reasons, some just because the women they love happens to be white) but this is a MASSIVE misconception. Anyone who can do statistics can see that its not true. Most black men still marry black women, its just the proportion of inter'racial' partnerships is higher than with black women. In fact if everyone could not see each others' colour, statistically black men should be dating more black women.
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Why is it that the multiracial offspring of a black parent always want to champion MULTICULTURALISM? Do white/asian mix do this? White/latino? Most black/other mix kids wind up gravitating to the non-black side anyway.Especially if upper/middle class.
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Because they don't want to be identified as Black. They want the priviledge of looking and identifying as White, just like those who are White/Asian, or White/Hispanic mixed. Being Black is also something negative in American society. So if these people can escape the Black category, they will do it at any cost.
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....What are Afro Africans (black) people doing to MIGRATE BACK TO AFRICA as way to be with their own people and to learn their own Indigenous language, religion, cuisine, culture, identity,history, etc?
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Africa is a continent, people are typically not from a continent. It is just as if I said "What are White people doing to migrate back to Europe?" Also, in the same breath, people who are born and raised in the United States who don't have another identity are American and American only.
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European(white) people don't need to migrate back to Europe! We have created a social construct of Europe right here in the "Native American's" lands.
Since 1492, these lands and it's people are more European than ever, especially Afro African (black) people. They, on the otherhand, are ASSIMILATED and only view civil action, racial dimensions, rights and injustices etc., within our European social system when in fact they fail to view Africa as their TRUE homeland where their freedom exists!
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The US is more American than ever (meaning multicultural) and I'll tell you why: our language,food,ideals,kids,etc.are heterogeneous.Secondly,most "Afro Americans" are not purely African in any of the aforementioned ways--they are uniquely American because their culture can only be found here.Thirdly,White Americans are only American for the same aforementioned reasons.Finally,Africa is a continent with many countries,no one knows from which one they come,and you are not free there due to race.
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Then I guess Barack H. Obama is not a Afro African (black) man according to your logic...he's a mulatto or better yet a ASSIMILATED biracial person (Oh yeah I forgot he's an "American", too, whatever the hell that may means!)
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We're in a European social construct system...
We certainly don't speak Zulu or Zimbabawi...look at the goverment and the educational institutions and their architecture, language, religion, world view in history, etc.; it's derived from Europe and its people and descendents (from the Greeks to Post Modernism). "American" means what we European (white) people say it means! If the Indigenous "Native Americans" claim this land then we say THIS IS "AMERICA" for all(as long as we're in power).
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Is about controling light skinned people they are afrad to lose the light skinned black or mixed race population . Because if blacks lose light skinned people they will lose power and the black community will decline thats why they don`t want
Not all "black-mixed" people are "light-skinned". I am darker than some monoracial "black" people. Genetics is very confusing. For example I'm "black", "East-Indian","East-Asian" and "European". I am a dark caramel, while some call that "light-skinnned", I sure don't.
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LOL, blackcoonpies? Let's see who the coons will be if the Klan were to line your ass up with the rest of the Black race. Guess what? Your ass would be hung too. Idiot.
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My school has the African American Student Union and Latinos Unidos, among many other ethnically diverse clubs.
A friend tried to start a European ethnic pride club, and my principal denied her, saying people would be offended by it and it would be nothing but a white supremacist gathering.
Does that sound like the road of equality is being paved?
Unless your friend really did want to make that club, more than likely, he or she was just being obnoxious. I've met people who've tried to do the same thing, but they always give up easy because they are just making a point - they could care less about "European ethnic pride." But if I was a student/faculty at that school, I wouldn't object to that. The majority of ethnic clubs at my school have members of all ethnicities.
The problem is, Europeans have a hard time separating racial pride from White supremacy. When they can be proud of their heritage without putting down other people, then they can have clubs similar to other groups.
You know, I find that offensive. Are you trying to imply that if I were to enjoy a club dedicated to a culture that I can relate to, I would be battling with inner demons about putting others down in such a gathering? NO. These clubs are about appreciating where we come from and finding a common ground with others to relate to. To be in one certainly doesn't mean that it is a gathering to demean others, and it is extremely rude of you to say so.
Do you think white people are the only people who have superiority complexes? EVERY race has someone who thinks that they are better than everyone else. I don't see why I should be punished for it by not being able to celebrate my own culture when it isn't just white people who have harbored such resentment towards others.
I'm not trying to get into an argument here, as I see that my posts might be heading in that direction, but I am upset by that double standard.
No, Caucasians are not the only "Race" to have a superiority complex; however, they exhibit the highest percentage of people who think that they are the greatest "Race."
It's not a double standard. If you observe the differences between the racial/cultural pride groups, it's clear what the actual focus of the European groups are. The focus is solely on the racial, physical, and mental superiority of Europeans. At the same time, they resort to humiliating and debasing other non-White groups. I just don't understand why that is necessary. NO other group does it to the extent that White people do it. It actually makes you look insecure.
I can agree with you to a point. But you're stereotyping that cultural pride in Europeans is based on humiliation, and there I disagree. Their have been infamous incidents where this has unfortunately been true, but that doesn't mean every single person who is born with white skin and is proud of their culture results to demeaning others. When one race is a majority, of course you're going to see a larger extent of hatred in the larger population.
The point is, it doesn't occur to the extent it did then. This is now. Everyone should be treated equally and be given a fair playing field.
Just out of curiosity, have you traveled outside of the US? Because we have it pretty damn good here regarding race. If you want to complain about prejudice -today,- check out what's going on in Asia. If I can recall correctly, China doesn't even have laws against racial discrimination--You might want to double check that though, because I could be wrong.
Just keep in mind that at my school, ethnic clubs are open to everyone, and people of other races are encouraged to attend. I love learning. I find culture absolutely fascinating. I just find it upsetting that I am able to learn and appreciate every culture under the sun except my own because "the focus will solely be on mental, racial, and physical superiority," according to you.
This is a school. These are high school students. KIDS. They're not as jaded about race as some here believe.
mom2dave, you have made an astute assessment of the subject of White pride, and it's interpretation. I agree 100%. I don't have a problem with someone White being proud of their ancestors, so long as they don't look down upon other races.
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I cosign with Politiqs. Conservatives and Republicans need to wake up and face reality that this country is no longer lily-white Northern European Protestant. John McCain and his conservative brethern remain oblivious to this.
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Are you from a city and/or the West or Northeast or South? Go to the Midwest; trust me there's a large swathe of the US that is as pasty and Northern European as can be. Not that that's a good or bad thing, but it is the reality. Another note, not in response; the only way to get into the Establishment is to marry into it and form societal relationships that go beyond business relationships.
This person is VERY misinformed and makes inaccurate claims about the outlawed and outdated racist one drop rule. Slavery had nothing to do w/ race. You were only a slave if your mother was a slave. So therefore it was matrineal. Multiracial designations were well acknowledged thruout history but that changed during the Jim Crow era. 1930 was the last year that mulattoes were acknowledged in the U.S.A censuses!
chsn09 5 months ago
I love this talk so much. It states what's going on and some ideas of what needs to happen.
yummieyummie123 8 months ago
Wow this is interesting and he is a very smart men.
MsTomas086 10 months ago 3
well is it so hard to understand that mixed black americans identify themselves with black people more than white, when the white genes come from rapings of their ancestors.
nec644 10 months ago
What makes a person Multiracial?
Do you include the race of the grandparents,or just the parents ?
MarquitaD111 1 year ago
@MarquitaD111 both of my parents are biracial. Thats makes me a multiracial person.
AngolanoJesse 7 months ago
I published a review of this book, when it came out in 2002. You can read it at Backintyme Essays.
frankwsweet 1 year ago
How about for him More than :Heterosexual? Multi-sexual preference.
Bladeboy05 1 year ago
Hey I know this guy, that's my "Uncle Tom"
MrSuperboiii 1 year ago
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what the what,what ever this dude is right 1st there aint no black race just like there is no whites its been accepted that people that we dont call mexicans color is what say thats not ethnic group one if your half black yout black if your 30% black your black,obama is half and he is considerd black thats country in the time we live in if you dont like build a dalorian and ride your ass to 2999,i got cousins whiter than snow and there dad is black so they are considered black
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this poor brotha is so confused. as much proper and eloquent as he speaks, he's talking about nothing at all. he lost me when he says forget about your ancestors. don't get confused because he is. if you have a european last name you got some white blood in you EASY. LOL shitt.
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boucharkayassin 2 years ago
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Not very accurate on the history of the one drop rule. If you want to read a more accurate accounting, go to backintyme and look up Frank Sweet's essays. Racism was epitomized in many apartheid societies like the USA and South Africa, but it wasn't necessarily started by them. A lot of the racial foundations came from Islamic slavery. They had a tremendous impact on Moorish Spain.
Salsassin 2 years ago
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The most boring thing i've heard in a long time.
russellbar01 2 years ago
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how foolish
MrBohanin 2 years ago
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Brilliant
michtenn16 2 years ago
I indentified myself mix-race in UK and Europe. On my Brazilian birth certificate states that I am a pardo. My mother is a cabocla (mix between black & native Indian) and my father is white European. I didn`t choose to be a pardo that is my Identity; I am a mix of races. You know what this is all about? Is about an ethnic minority being scared of be extinguished. Black race will soon not exist anymore because the white, Asian, and the fast growing Mix-race are predominant.
jaciara9 2 years ago
The white Elite and politicians accept this one drop rule not because they want to protect the black race from dying off but because if the Black race eventually get extinguished it will make them look really bad for not only slaved, abused blacks but as well to have created an ant-black society where is better not to exist than be black.
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Black people shouldn`t try to sum up with mix-race to make them look as if they were in a larger number ,they should take pride of their beautiful colour and culture and reproduce between themselves and let the other race do the same.
jaciara9 2 years ago
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It's really interesting that he focuses on that misconception that thinks that when your talking about multiraciality you're talking about ancestry, genetics and how your great great great grandfather was this or that. It's not about genes, it's about identity.
Biscuitsan 2 years ago
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Wasting their time bickering other petty issues of race. We should be talking of a proletariat take over not multi race society.
Leonzee 2 years ago
He's wrong on one thing. It was through your mother, not the "One Drop Rule", that determined that you were a slave. The One-Drop Rule was not in U.S. law until 1930. In Anglo-America (not French or Spanish territories) if your mother was slave you were, if mother was free you were, regardless of race.
DaTruth2024 2 years ago 12
@DaTruth2024 or you were killed cause your slut of a mother slept with a black beast.
killbbob 2 years ago
@Killbbob: Go fuck yourself, you evil son of a bitch! I am NOT Biracial and I do not even have a "white" mom. All of my grandparents are "multiracial". Go die in a hole you scum shit!
DaTruth2024 2 years ago 6
P.S.: Not all "multiracial" people of African descent have "white moms". Some have mixed moms or "black" moms. Idiot! LAMFAO.
DaTruth2024 2 years ago 14
@DaTruth2024 You're mixing facts. The truth is that Tennessee adopted a one-drop statute in 1910 aka the “one-drop rule.” Not 1930. 1930 was when the rule became a stronghold in US law over many states. Prior to this multiracials were seen as mulatto. Being born a slave wouldn't matter in regards to the one drop rule because slavery ended in 1865, the one drop rule was part of the Jim Crow era. He said the one drop rule determined whether you were black or white. Not a slave or free.
mwtwyman 1 year ago
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I found out that many African Americans are mixed with Native American. Redd Foxx was 1/4 Seminole Indian. Florence Ballard of The Supremes was black and Native American. Chris Tucker is also black and Native American.
essentialeugene 3 years ago
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yh its true because blacks from a slavery north/south america and carribean have white and native ancestry
borninthe90sdecade 2 years ago
Well, it's not only slave rape. There were real relationships between white males/black females and black males/white females, free or slave. Esp. with the creoles of color and in the caribbean.
DaTruth2024 2 years ago
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I'm multi-racial and my great great great grandfather was black and he marry a white women.He wasn't a slave either.Allot of white people also marry natives,blacks,......long ago in the caribbean.
cherri7 2 years ago
@cherri7 uh blacks were also slaves in the Caribbean as well it wasn't just North America
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
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@BiracialGirl1977 you hide my comment? i said nothing bad.yah i know that black slaves were in the caribbean but my ancestor came from africa on his own.
not every black person long ago were slaves.I know many people from the caribbean whose white ancestor married a black person and i doubt that they were all slaves.From the stories I hear ,it seems that places like america and canada were more strict about interacial marriage in the past.
cherri7 1 year ago
@BiracialGirl1977 the only way to be certain about my ancestor is getting records of him.well i'm more interested in getting info about the ethnics in my background since i already know the races.....
cherri7 1 year ago
This guy looks asian to me lol,we all see what we want to see.
oramikleepunk 2 years ago
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Well there are many professionals debating stating that in genetic studies many AAs are not of Native descent, or less than 5%, but an estimated 56 % of AAs have atleast 18.5 European genes.
DaTruth2024 2 years ago
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To be honest with everyone is mixed with some people its more obivious. Even though I am black looking at photos of my relatives I know other races are in my background. Doesn't mean I am not proud of My American African heritage but dna is the truth and yu can find any and everything.
Empha84 3 years ago
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That guy talks too fast.
richdawginthehouse 3 years ago
That guy talks too fast.
Nah, you just listen too slowly :D
Aaberg123 3 years ago
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This stuff is so interesting. Its so strange that no one but this guy seems to notice how society accepts that while the term "black" may be offensive to some "african american" people, nobody considers that "white" might be an objectionable term. I complained at georgia tech this year at having to fill out "white" on a form which offered "african american" as an option and they looked at me like I was nuts!
wcibbt 3 years ago
@wcibbt your right.white should be offensive in america.i prefer calling someone by their name or the country they came from[example irish,french,....].i live in canada and calling someone black,white or whatevr isn't offensive like in america.
cherri7 1 year ago
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mariah carey never denied her multriracial background, i though if you are author yo ufirst job is to research the resources, well you def failed
mariahcarey1625 3 years ago
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For one Afro African (black) people don't speak their Indigenous language, practice their Indigenous religion, cuisine, culture, etc...
For the longest time, Afro African (blacks) have been fighting for "European (white) privileges"...that's what the MLK Jr's., DREAM was all about!
No wonder Afro African (black) males desperately seek European (white) and non-Afro African (black) women to marry and date as a way to make babies....because being LESS Afro African (blacks) ...is PRICELESS!
Dangerdoom68 3 years ago
black males DO NOT desperately seek European women (a small group do, some for insecurity reasons, some just because the women they love happens to be white) but this is a MASSIVE misconception. Anyone who can do statistics can see that its not true. Most black men still marry black women, its just the proportion of inter'racial' partnerships is higher than with black women. In fact if everyone could not see each others' colour, statistically black men should be dating more black women.
Invertedzero 3 years ago 14
More than white? Multiracial identity.
blackclassics 3 years ago 20
@blackclassics Agreed!
Bladeboy05 1 year ago
@blackclassics
it is more than one race. ;)
prjibaro1 1 year ago
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Why is it that the multiracial offspring of a black parent always want to champion MULTICULTURALISM? Do white/asian mix do this? White/latino? Most black/other mix kids wind up gravitating to the non-black side anyway.Especially if upper/middle class.
blackclassics 3 years ago
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Because they don't want to be identified as Black. They want the priviledge of looking and identifying as White, just like those who are White/Asian, or White/Hispanic mixed. Being Black is also something negative in American society. So if these people can escape the Black category, they will do it at any cost.
mom2dave 3 years ago
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....What are Afro Africans (black) people doing to MIGRATE BACK TO AFRICA as way to be with their own people and to learn their own Indigenous language, religion, cuisine, culture, identity,history, etc?
Dangerdoom68 3 years ago
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Africa is a continent, people are typically not from a continent. It is just as if I said "What are White people doing to migrate back to Europe?" Also, in the same breath, people who are born and raised in the United States who don't have another identity are American and American only.
fooblet 3 years ago
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European(white) people don't need to migrate back to Europe! We have created a social construct of Europe right here in the "Native American's" lands.
Since 1492, these lands and it's people are more European than ever, especially Afro African (black) people. They, on the otherhand, are ASSIMILATED and only view civil action, racial dimensions, rights and injustices etc., within our European social system when in fact they fail to view Africa as their TRUE homeland where their freedom exists!
Dangerdoom68 3 years ago
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The US is more American than ever (meaning multicultural) and I'll tell you why: our language,food,ideals,kids,etc.are heterogeneous.Secondly,most "Afro Americans" are not purely African in any of the aforementioned ways--they are uniquely American because their culture can only be found here.Thirdly,White Americans are only American for the same aforementioned reasons.Finally,Africa is a continent with many countries,no one knows from which one they come,and you are not free there due to race.
fooblet 3 years ago
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Then I guess Barack H. Obama is not a Afro African (black) man according to your logic...he's a mulatto or better yet a ASSIMILATED biracial person (Oh yeah I forgot he's an "American", too, whatever the hell that may means!)
Dangerdoom68 3 years ago
What the hell is ASSIMILATED supposed to mean? He's not a foreigner... this is his native culture...
"American" means you are a citizen of the United States that believes in the ideals of our Constitution.
fooblet 3 years ago
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We're in a European social construct system...
We certainly don't speak Zulu or Zimbabawi...look at the goverment and the educational institutions and their architecture, language, religion, world view in history, etc.; it's derived from Europe and its people and descendents (from the Greeks to Post Modernism). "American" means what we European (white) people say it means! If the Indigenous "Native Americans" claim this land then we say THIS IS "AMERICA" for all(as long as we're in power).
Dangerdoom68 3 years ago
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Carla242004 3 years ago
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Is about controling light skinned people they are afrad to lose the light skinned black or mixed race population . Because if blacks lose light skinned people they will lose power and the black community will decline thats why they don`t want
mulattopop 3 years ago
mulattopop aka whitehnicpride.People,don't forget to watch my vid about this racist you tuber.
Thebraids 3 years ago
Not all "black-mixed" people are "light-skinned". I am darker than some monoracial "black" people. Genetics is very confusing. For example I'm "black", "East-Indian","East-Asian" and "European". I am a dark caramel, while some call that "light-skinnned", I sure don't.
UniversialLove365 3 years ago 12
@UniversialLove365 boooooo!!!!
killbbob 2 years ago
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Blackcoonpies of youtube if you dont`t like these mulatiracial video`s then don`t comment on them
just stayway from anything related to biracial people.We don`t need your bullshixt here
mulattopop 3 years ago
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LOL, blackcoonpies? Let's see who the coons will be if the Klan were to line your ass up with the rest of the Black race. Guess what? Your ass would be hung too. Idiot.
mom2dave 3 years ago
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Why are you so racist? Why do you hate a part of yourself? I just don't get it. I love and honor the ethnicites of ALL my ancestors!!!
UniversialLove365 3 years ago
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My school has the African American Student Union and Latinos Unidos, among many other ethnically diverse clubs.
A friend tried to start a European ethnic pride club, and my principal denied her, saying people would be offended by it and it would be nothing but a white supremacist gathering.
Does that sound like the road of equality is being paved?
HybridMoon 3 years ago
Unless your friend really did want to make that club, more than likely, he or she was just being obnoxious. I've met people who've tried to do the same thing, but they always give up easy because they are just making a point - they could care less about "European ethnic pride." But if I was a student/faculty at that school, I wouldn't object to that. The majority of ethnic clubs at my school have members of all ethnicities.
niffyat 3 years ago
The problem is, Europeans have a hard time separating racial pride from White supremacy. When they can be proud of their heritage without putting down other people, then they can have clubs similar to other groups.
mom2dave 3 years ago 11
You know, I find that offensive. Are you trying to imply that if I were to enjoy a club dedicated to a culture that I can relate to, I would be battling with inner demons about putting others down in such a gathering? NO. These clubs are about appreciating where we come from and finding a common ground with others to relate to. To be in one certainly doesn't mean that it is a gathering to demean others, and it is extremely rude of you to say so.
HybridMoon 3 years ago
Do you think white people are the only people who have superiority complexes? EVERY race has someone who thinks that they are better than everyone else. I don't see why I should be punished for it by not being able to celebrate my own culture when it isn't just white people who have harbored such resentment towards others.
I'm not trying to get into an argument here, as I see that my posts might be heading in that direction, but I am upset by that double standard.
HybridMoon 3 years ago
HybridMoon,
No, Caucasians are not the only "Race" to have a superiority complex; however, they exhibit the highest percentage of people who think that they are the greatest "Race."
antidote2010 3 years ago 9
It's not a double standard. If you observe the differences between the racial/cultural pride groups, it's clear what the actual focus of the European groups are. The focus is solely on the racial, physical, and mental superiority of Europeans. At the same time, they resort to humiliating and debasing other non-White groups. I just don't understand why that is necessary. NO other group does it to the extent that White people do it. It actually makes you look insecure.
mom2dave 3 years ago 7
I can agree with you to a point. But you're stereotyping that cultural pride in Europeans is based on humiliation, and there I disagree. Their have been infamous incidents where this has unfortunately been true, but that doesn't mean every single person who is born with white skin and is proud of their culture results to demeaning others. When one race is a majority, of course you're going to see a larger extent of hatred in the larger population.
HybridMoon 3 years ago
The point is, it doesn't occur to the extent it did then. This is now. Everyone should be treated equally and be given a fair playing field.
Just out of curiosity, have you traveled outside of the US? Because we have it pretty damn good here regarding race. If you want to complain about prejudice -today,- check out what's going on in Asia. If I can recall correctly, China doesn't even have laws against racial discrimination--You might want to double check that though, because I could be wrong.
HybridMoon 3 years ago
Just keep in mind that at my school, ethnic clubs are open to everyone, and people of other races are encouraged to attend. I love learning. I find culture absolutely fascinating. I just find it upsetting that I am able to learn and appreciate every culture under the sun except my own because "the focus will solely be on mental, racial, and physical superiority," according to you.
This is a school. These are high school students. KIDS. They're not as jaded about race as some here believe.
HybridMoon 3 years ago
Well you know what? I'm young. What do I know?
Give me a decade and I very well might end up agreeing with you.
HybridMoon 3 years ago
mom2dave, you have made an astute assessment of the subject of White pride, and it's interpretation. I agree 100%. I don't have a problem with someone White being proud of their ancestors, so long as they don't look down upon other races.
antidote2010 3 years ago 8
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I cosign with Politiqs. Conservatives and Republicans need to wake up and face reality that this country is no longer lily-white Northern European Protestant. John McCain and his conservative brethern remain oblivious to this.
Steph
angylgyrl 3 years ago
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Are you from a city and/or the West or Northeast or South? Go to the Midwest; trust me there's a large swathe of the US that is as pasty and Northern European as can be. Not that that's a good or bad thing, but it is the reality. Another note, not in response; the only way to get into the Establishment is to marry into it and form societal relationships that go beyond business relationships.
murphycline 3 years ago
That's right, you can't stop it so you might as well get on board.
Politiqs 3 years ago