Open:there is Zero proof only the word of ex-cult members some of whom have been caught out lying or changed stories over the years.COS is a cult & money making racket for sure but don't be naive enough to believe all ex members say, they can claim anything they want.If true why not a single one in 20+ years with definitive proof - audio or video recording (hidden camera or spy equipment to be used), with that proof it would be end of COS but it's never came & never will!
@ZappaWapaoo Zappa, as you may be aware the burden of proof lies with the promulgator of a theory or belief system, id est, CoS in this case to 'prove' that it's treatments, advice and assertions are superior to the parts of medical sciences it critiques, This can be done with double blind studies and peer review. In short, to put it in the idiomatic, the CoS either 'puts up or shuts up'.
Why no proof on David Miscaviage charges? Never any video or even audio to prove charges. Ex Scientologists can say what they want, one even claims David Miscaviage frequently bottom burps and blames it on another , or tells person not to move stay perfectly still as the foul pungent odour hits them.
When multiple individuals individually corroborate the same story, the evidence speaks for itself. Amy Scobee and Bruce Hines, in detail, both talked about being forced to salute his beagle, and that David Miscavige was using his beagle to detect "overts" (or crimes) of the individual. More are confirming David Miscavige's physical assaults through compelling detail. The evidence is stacked against Miscavige, yet you desire proof such as a video/audio recording?
"Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes exist."- L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
Scientology reminds me of another group very much like it...in the 60's it was called Synanon, give me all your money and I will make you wise...RIGHT
It is a common misconception to believe people join Scientology because of the doctrine of Xenu. People actually come to Scientology hoping for increased intelligence, improved personality, and help in dealing with personal problems (as it advertises itself as a self-help philosophy). Later, if they had paid enough, they learn a system of beliefs based on science fiction stories, infestations of alien spirits and exploding volcanos.
@LCPStud Better still, if you disagree with their views and tenets, do not buy, rent or pay for products, books, music or films with them in them - instead watch or read it for free if you must.
Hit them and the studios, publishers and manufacturers that support them where it hurts - in the pocket - encourage friends to do the same, ad infinitum. It's your right to boycott anything or anyone you wish.
hmoob7 is providing us with one of Scientology's most despicable tactics: Accusing critics of "crimes" in order to discredit them. Scientology can't defend itself against the allegations made (because the allegations are true), so instead they just attack anyone who criticizes them and immediately make the debate personal.
If Scientology claims that the guy Marty Wrathburn was the violent one, then why did they let him stay in for decades when they kick other people out for such offenses for talking to their families or getting pregnant?
Tom did you mean to say you have never met such a shorter power puppet in your life ? That loves to kiss your rich ass every chance he gets ... He couldn't have crawled up a bigger nut tree !
one example: Wrongful Death, Practicing Medicine Without a License, Torture, more
The state of Florida has decided not to prosecute the two felony charges of unauthorized practice of medicine and abuse and/or neglect of a disabled adult in the case of Lisa McPherson, who died in Scientology's custody on December 5, 1995. However, a civil suit has been filed by her estate, alleging wrongful death,
Its not the beliefs that's the big deal. Its the bait and switch and the destructive official policies the Church of Scientology holds. If you go to any other religion and ask what theyre all about theyll tell you. Free of charge. However, in Scientology you dont really learn what the religion is about until youve already invested some 300,000 US dollars into it. In order for consumers to make a reasoned choice they must have the facts on what they are buying.
funnily enough, jimmy kimmel looks like john travolta
MissPressPlay 11 months ago
Open:there is Zero proof only the word of ex-cult members some of whom have been caught out lying or changed stories over the years.COS is a cult & money making racket for sure but don't be naive enough to believe all ex members say, they can claim anything they want.If true why not a single one in 20+ years with definitive proof - audio or video recording (hidden camera or spy equipment to be used), with that proof it would be end of COS but it's never came & never will!
ZappaWapaoo 2 years ago
@ZappaWapaoo Zappa, as you may be aware the burden of proof lies with the promulgator of a theory or belief system, id est, CoS in this case to 'prove' that it's treatments, advice and assertions are superior to the parts of medical sciences it critiques, This can be done with double blind studies and peer review. In short, to put it in the idiomatic, the CoS either 'puts up or shuts up'.
jontycampbell 1 year ago
Why no proof on David Miscaviage charges? Never any video or even audio to prove charges. Ex Scientologists can say what they want, one even claims David Miscaviage frequently bottom burps and blames it on another , or tells person not to move stay perfectly still as the foul pungent odour hits them.
TheCoreValues 2 years ago
@TheCoreValues
When multiple individuals individually corroborate the same story, the evidence speaks for itself. Amy Scobee and Bruce Hines, in detail, both talked about being forced to salute his beagle, and that David Miscavige was using his beagle to detect "overts" (or crimes) of the individual. More are confirming David Miscavige's physical assaults through compelling detail. The evidence is stacked against Miscavige, yet you desire proof such as a video/audio recording?
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
Tom Cruise is a loon!!!!!!!
arkalix 2 years ago 2
$cientology's fraudulently criminal. $cn's crime in France:
ORGANIZED FRAUD!!!
It's a crime syndicate run by a sociopath who beats his staff; witness the SP TIMES article.
TAMPABAY. COM
jdtrickster4 2 years ago 4
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reeblite 2 years ago
Oh, they even have their own awards shows! Cool.
apekkapoika 2 years ago
"Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes exist."- L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
Scientology reminds me of another group very much like it...in the 60's it was called Synanon, give me all your money and I will make you wise...RIGHT
neoshoman 2 years ago 2
When Scientology goes away on their space ship, you think they can take Tom Cruise with them? But, leave Katie,lol.
hikari94122 2 years ago
It is a common misconception to believe people join Scientology because of the doctrine of Xenu. People actually come to Scientology hoping for increased intelligence, improved personality, and help in dealing with personal problems (as it advertises itself as a self-help philosophy). Later, if they had paid enough, they learn a system of beliefs based on science fiction stories, infestations of alien spirits and exploding volcanos.
This is the bait-and-switch aspect of the scheme.
OpenComments 2 years ago 4
this is fucking hilarious nice post, makes me want to make up some awards to give to people in grandiose ceremonies.
bcmalloy 2 years ago 2
3:21 so good.
FuzzyDuck 2 years ago
what if jesus met xenu?
SergentBannana 2 years ago 2
HAHAHA
green95gt 2 years ago
Nutbags.
Whenever I look up an actor on Wiki and I see "scientologist" I just file them into the "dipshit" category and stop reading.
LCPStud 2 years ago 14
@LCPStud Better still, if you disagree with their views and tenets, do not buy, rent or pay for products, books, music or films with them in them - instead watch or read it for free if you must.
Hit them and the studios, publishers and manufacturers that support them where it hurts - in the pocket - encourage friends to do the same, ad infinitum. It's your right to boycott anything or anyone you wish.
jontycampbell 1 year ago
I heard that Tom Cruise bitch smacks his loving wife Kate Hudson when she refers to him as "Xenu the Pooh"
khunopie 2 years ago 5
Funny that is not his wife's name
dlvme2 2 years ago
Why don't you tell us your crimes instead of spewing falsehoods about people?
hmoob7 2 years ago
hmoob7 is providing us with one of Scientology's most despicable tactics: Accusing critics of "crimes" in order to discredit them. Scientology can't defend itself against the allegations made (because the allegations are true), so instead they just attack anyone who criticizes them and immediately make the debate personal.
Wes964 2 years ago 4
@Wes964
Yawn. Just another invalid ad hominem attack. Trite, no?
recalibration 3 months ago
why dont you get a friggin life you cult freak!!!
pleezeme2 2 years ago
you dont need to be perfect to speak of perfection.
mkrulic517439 2 years ago
@mkrulic517439
Unless one is perfect, their words are clumsy attempts to describe it.
recalibration 3 months ago
If Scientology claims that the guy Marty Wrathburn was the violent one, then why did they let him stay in for decades when they kick other people out for such offenses for talking to their families or getting pregnant?
maha77 2 years ago
when faced with a difficult situation, ask yourself:
"What would XENU do?"
maha77 2 years ago 3
@maha77
Bomb ALL the things!
recalibration 3 months ago
Tom did you mean to say you have never met such a shorter power puppet in your life ? That loves to kiss your rich ass every chance he gets ... He couldn't have crawled up a bigger nut tree !
2009Together 2 years ago 2
Xenu is my Co-pilot
trance23 2 years ago 3
@trance23
Xenu built my hot rod.
recalibration 3 months ago
scientology is such a fucking joke. boston legal shows what a farce it really is.
jnycnuk 2 years ago 12
but, if people want to belong thats their choice.
i dont see what the big deal is.
JewishVegan 2 years ago
one example: Wrongful Death, Practicing Medicine Without a License, Torture, more
The state of Florida has decided not to prosecute the two felony charges of unauthorized practice of medicine and abuse and/or neglect of a disabled adult in the case of Lisa McPherson, who died in Scientology's custody on December 5, 1995. However, a civil suit has been filed by her estate, alleging wrongful death,
jnycnuk 2 years ago
intentional infliction of emotional distress, false imprisonment, fraud, battery, negligence, and practicing medicine without a license.
Other people have also reported fraud, the unauthorized practice of medicine, and false imprisonment.
jnycnuk 2 years ago
Its not the beliefs that's the big deal. Its the bait and switch and the destructive official policies the Church of Scientology holds. If you go to any other religion and ask what theyre all about theyll tell you. Free of charge. However, in Scientology you dont really learn what the religion is about until youve already invested some 300,000 US dollars into it. In order for consumers to make a reasoned choice they must have the facts on what they are buying.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Thanx 4 uploading !!!
SportMegane 2 years ago