I was defending on metro today and the attackers had 6 or 7 223's sitting at the back of the map. Needless to say they did this every time I killed them, so it gets reticulum at times. No one ended up setting any charges.
Makes me laugh all this talk about the various weapons, vehicles and styles of play.
Spamming with a Mortar. This is a Battlefield matey. If I was fighting for real in Afghanistan (god forbid) I don't think anyone would call me in for 'spamming' the Taliban with my Mortar.
We 'play' how we play if I want to snipe all day from a fixed position that's what i'll do.
@L1ne0fS1ght agreed mate. My point is that if left alone, someone who spams mortars can be very effective. That's why I make it my job to take them out.
You make no sense you say that it's extremely balanced... and then you admit that people abuse it. How is it balanced when people just endlessly spam points on CQ... I think they really need to update the game, I'm sick and tired of this re spawn to re-spawn shit.
@scgamerd it's been answered before by other people as well. It's balanced because you appear on the mini-map the instant you set down your mortar. It only takes one shot to destroy an enemy mortar. So it's up to you and your team to not let them spam the shit out of the objectives.
The problem is that no-one wants to do the dirty job. People want to play their favorite class and don't care about winning. They'll just sit back and snipe, or they'll spam RPGs across the map.
@GranadaDeFumasa Showing up on the minimap isn't really that big of a deal when you can sit in your deployment in a no man's land shelling the enemy. So you can mortar them right back, and then go back to your class you were playing before. What if they keep mortaring? Do you keep switching your class? It's balanced even if it forces someone to not get to play what they want? Yes, you should help your team, but you shouldn't be forced to play one class because of bs like this.
@omegaxtrigun If I see them mortaring all day long I don't switch to another class. I keep my support/mortar class on for the entire game. I make it my job to stop them. It's the same if the other team has some competent guys on a chopper and they're wrecking the place. I use my engineer stinger class. If you choose to snipe, or play assault despite the fact that you're being killed from above then it's your fault for loosing. I opt to adjust to the game and do what it takes to win
@GranadaDeFumasa That's your personal playstyle. I do that fairly often to, but there are times when you're trying to play with a different kit for a reason, and shouldn't be forced to play another just because the other team is abusing stupid things. Switching to engi for vehicles is different. Vehicles are a normal part of the game. Mortaring from out of bounds isn't. It needs fixed. If you're sitting in your spawn and damage an enemy, you should get put out of bounds as well.
I've put in 20hrs of gameplay and can count on one hand how many times I've been killed by mortars...i like how u take them out though...i usually go looking for them
@ssgtsrt8 I've 100+ hrs and there are those games where the other team has constantly 2-3 people mortaring. That's when you really need to counter them or they'll run over you
@GranadaDeFumasa For example when you set the mortar up at 0:20 you are looking at two lanes on the screen then it instantly flips to a different part of the map.
I have just got the mortar upgrade, thankyou for the vid and free help on playing the game. this has put the motar onto a whole new level. didnt realize you could take out tanks cool :)
Wow, I've yet to play a round with as many mortars as I saw in the video! I like the video - mortars aren't very smart to use constantly, someone is going to be wise enough to spawn in and drop one on you. I only spam mortars to support MCOMs in the open that are close to being destroyed. It's also a good weapon to make tanks paranoid with a shell or two.
@GranadaDeFumasa Doesn't anyone ever use smoke? Once I unlock it (I don't use support much) I plan to use the smokes (40mm as well) to allow my team to move up safely and ambush enemy positions. Do you ever use this? If so, can you make a video guide for us? That'd be sweet.
how is this game on platforms?I have been wavering on buying it or not.Also did they fix all the glitches and bad servers I have been hearing about? I have MW3 and its fun but i do love all the vehicle gamplay in BF. I am a fan of both series and i am wondering if gameplay is better than BC2,and is the destruction really that realistic? if someone could answer my questions that'd be great
@XxXxxXxX14471 Graphics are definitely an improvement, flight characteristics of the helicopter is great, vehicles are good, but in saying this the tanks just don't seem that strong anymore, speaking of its armor, you get taken out pretty promptly, and due to destruction being a fucking failure in some places, often you find your self right next to the flag getting hit by RPG's from a soldier hiding behind a wall your trying to blow away, so major fail when it comes to that
@XxXxxXxX14471 this being my opinion of course, you might love it, I just cannot seem to enjoy it like I do BFBC'2, always get pissed of, and some of the maps are ridiculously small compared to BFBC'2, EA kinda promised the BF community big maps, and honestly most are utter crap, for instance operation metro, conquest is just one big bottle neck, sucks ass, but again, just my opinion,
yo my thing is, in real life....theres a whole lot more than fucking morters. It makes the game that much more intense. people should be happy that mortars are in the game becuase it just makes it that much more interesting! So the people who are really good at aiming and killing want to do away with them cause it takes away their ability to just run around gungho going nuts and the people who cant aim for shit spam mortars...boo fucking whoooo
its kind of like using recon class to take out other pesky snipers...i would use mortar's to take out the other dudes that are constantly using mortar's
@speedstangsixtyfiv3 . Only difference being when you choose to go Recon class to take another sniper out, a handy map don't show you exactly where the other sniper is, you have to hunt for him, unlike the little mortar map that basically give you a effortless kill, this is what I find fucking stupid.
the reason mortars are in the game is to make you keep moving.
Same reason there are snipers.
If you stand still for too long, no matter which map, you're going to die. You have to keep moving all the time. Snipers who can kill you while running are a dime a dozen, and mortars have to be very lucky to hit you if you don't stand still.
Same thing with vehicles in other battlefield games, if you stand still, some mortar rounds are going your way.
Still, they might not be op, but they a cheap kill.
@bennyboy27or it's a team game. Someone else on your team should take them out if you can't. But the same thing applies for any weapon upgrade. I could say the same about flares and guided missiles on jets.
@GranadaDeFumasa Good point, everything should be unlocked from the start! It is impossible to counter mortars with mortars if you haven't unlocked them, same with jets and heat seeking missiles and flares... But, I guess, we wont be going back to the old ways... :\
i also think there as balanced as they can be with the damage.. i mean its just a onehit kill if you get hit almost on top or close to youre feet.. as soon as the mortar hits just a little bit of the target he can ran away + you just see ppl that are market so its fair in my opinion
@BOTiTTE something tells me it's 50 damage. Any time I've been hit by one, my health goes down to 50. Quite sure that's how it is. Needs 2 shells to kill someone. Usually kills people if they're already injured.
@94hourstilAHIG looool im saying he says ppl abuse it but its balanced. just pointing it out im not saying its not balanced, i only find them annoying.
@kuo982 I'm not contradicting myself by saying that. People will abuse it if they're left unchallenged. However, as I show in the video it's really easy to counter them. Hence it is balanced. It is only because people don't take the time to counter-mortar that some players are allowed to spam away all game long. Not on my watch though :) Makes sense now?
Tired of hearing people cry about players using things that are put in the game to use. I will Mortar the hell out of the other team if they stay grouped up, and i will spend all round in a tank. No matter what it is, when people get owned by something they always wanna cry unfair. I am called a Tank Whore ALL THE TIME. Thats all good since i do spend alot of time in the tank, BUT, is that not why its put in the game. Come on people just play your style and let others play thiers.
@Outland3r1 I completely agree. Haven't played much last week but I was #2 in the world (360) with IFV kills. Its a part of the game so find a way to counter. If someone else got the tank first I immediately switch to c4 and take it out. As far as mortars go I take it more personally and go get the knife kill and will die until I get it. Other strategy... use a suppressor... mortars can't see you then
@gtsvipers999 a tactic I've seen being used a lot is MAV and mortar combo. One guy will spot players with the MAV and the other will drop mortar shells on them. So silencers don't always keep you safe
mommy, he's not letting me get to the mcom!!! Too many people complain because they can't do something. I like the video telling people to counter-mortar, but the complaining about spamming is annoying is unnecessary...
i agree and like this video. made some good points. but sometimes mortar spamming randomly can help your team defend. its like snipers at the back of the field
Mortars are balanced. Something is only OP when you have no counter to it. This video proves its easy to counter. Anoying? yes! Usefull? VERY! OP? no...
If you get pwnd by a mortar, it translates that you should MOVE! How do you think they are used IRL?
besides, since when was war fair? realisticly speaking, BF3 did a great job.
Cant take the heat? get out of the fire.. It a challange ppl.
Wwwwaaaa!!!! Call the wambulance!!!! who cares if u have an uimited amounted of ammo for it? One shell+mortar whore=easy kill...if your constantly getting bombarded with mortar shells I think it's time to visit your local retailer and pick up mw3
The people shooting the mortars were DEFENDERS and were DEFENDING their base rightfully so. its called ADAPT AND OVERCOME.
So they shouldnt have made mortars because they are cheap and unrealistic? Thats not how battlefield works. They did there job, and i ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE!
Great video! People need to stop whining about mortars. The only time they cause a problem is when they spam your spawn or an objective, and this just shows how to get around that. Why are you hating on this vid, he's not the one spamming an objective and trying to rack up an easy 10+ kills. Oh wait, you must be the guy that used to spam and now is getting a taste of your own medicine.
@xSubaa ... Who is your message directed at champ ... most people that are "Whining" make a good point, and they are far from dissing "GranadaDeFumasa" but bringing up good points that would make the game better for all of us play, insuring the mortar user has limited ammo would stop mortar spamming, easily fixed flaw with the game ...
@xREEFERxMADNESSx It wasn't directed at you. I agree mortars should have limited ammo, but as for the way the game stands now this video shows that they aren't as OP as everyone makes them out to be. Afterall how many times do you truly see mortar spam in all the games you've played so far, 10%?
As the support class wouldn't you just throw ammo by your mortar thus defeating the purpose of limiting the ammo count? There's sufficient time delay between shots fired to do what you want, unless multiple mortars are going off then counter mortar.@xSubaa
@xSubaa Yeah I agree, they are definitely not OP, nor have I seen spammer, I used to use it occasionally, be it smoke or HE, but after repeatedly being knocked out by a counter mortar that was basically handed my position with no effort, that kind of sucks, never minded being stabbed or shot whilst on a mortar, but when you get counter hit, that kinda sucks, I feel like I'm cheating when I take out another mortar via the map, exact reason I don't use the mortar anymore, it sucks
On PC you show up on the minimap the moment you pull out the mortar/set it up.. Makes it next to useless since you're basically always known and harder to counter enemy mortars since it takes a couple of seconds to set it up... Probably a bug, bit it doesn't really seem like they're fixing any of these things for quite some time... Too busy advertising the expansion pack... -.-
Goes on to show how mortars best counter is other mortars and how to just slink away and get some free kills without being even slightly at risk.
Don't get me wrong, your videos are great and you're a champ for sharing your stuff. I just disagree very strongly on mortars. I use them like you use them, but I've stopped because it's much too powerful.
@Nudz I appreciate you taking the time to comment on my video. I don't agree they're OP though. How many times have you killed someone with 1 shot from the mortar? Unless they're standing completely still it takes 3-4 shots to get 1 kill. in that time you're already counter mortared.
This is partially the type 'mortaring' I approve. I only use mortars against a mortar. I play hardcore so the splashdmg and dmg itself are higher and more lethal than in SC. So it's most of the time a fucking pain in the ass that mortar. otherwise a good video.
Thank you for this post, Mortars are the only thing I dislike, especially when im sneaking up on a platoon and then out of no where i get Mortared. Great vid.
I use the MAV to kill mortars... if its not a roadkill just put them infront of them and they blow up...excelent troll ... keeps them off the mortar =)
@stevdog39561 Yeah i know but amazingly nobody has ever shot down my MAV(20 kills with it)... not yet... they tend not to sacrifice they rockets since there are no air vehicles on metro and teheran and those maps ... I personally think mortars give a good vibe to the maps ... mortar spammers tend to be unexperienced mortar users so they hardly get a kill on a fast moving player ...falling mortars all over the place on the first part of metro on rush is very exciting and fun =)
Don't forgot smoke rounds, those help a lot when attacking an objective. Me and my clan were playing rush and me using smoke rounds made the difference between winning and losing.
Awesome vid, really shows how its done! I'm tired of watching the same 4-5 guys just bombing a flag or m-com somewhere 24/7.. This has put me in the mood of trying a few mortar shells, though I still favour the assault/engineer classes.
@Michababen that's the thing though. these guys go apeshit with their mortars because people aren't willing to switch classes. I always switch to support when someone on the other team is spamming mortars, always. I know no one else will
Mortar Tubes should get hot and have a cooldown period like real life. Maybe even have a "kit" upgrade (whatever you call them ) that reduces that cooldown or allows u to pee on the mortar.
You'r relying on the games obvious flaw to get counter kills, and that sucks, battlefield is suppose to be about realism, and in real life opposing mortar teams don't show up on a fucking map, this should not be aloud to happen cause its plain B/S, also the mortar should have certain amount of rounds, REALISM FOR FUCK SAKES
@xREEFERxMADNESSx you mean taking 3-4 bullets from an M60 and getting revived only to get blasted by an RPG in the head and revived again is realism? It's a game above all
@GranadaDeFumasa . Thats were I would agree that revives from RPG and Head shots should not be possible, I'm all for changes that make the game more real, Opposing mortar teams showing up on the map is utter bull shit, unless one of your own team mates are sent out to spot them, how can you argue with a want for more realism, god damn
@GranadaDeFumasa Of course you don't play for kills, that would just be stupid wouldn't it ... thats why you pick support class when you hear mortars being fired, you then set up your mortar and "kill" yes I said "kill" the opposing mortar team easily, only because the game shows you the opposing players exact position, so yes obviously you do not play for kills, and or utilize the games flaw for your advantage, nice one.
@xREEFERxMADNESSx I also play recon class, and engineer class and assault class. Try using the mortar for an entire game. You'll go 15-1, so what? I can get a lot more kills, (50+ kills) without the mortar
@xREEFERxMADNESSx I also play recon class, and engineer class and assault class. Try using the mortar for an entire game. You'll go 15-1, so what? I can get a lot more kills, (50+ kills) without the mortar
@GranadaDeFumasa . Same here, I am by no means dissing how you play, just pointing out flaws with the game, that make it suck, ie the positioning of Mortar teams on the map, and the unlimited ammo, having limited ammo would curb spamming, and removing the positioning would remove easy no risk counter kills, changes which would make the game better for the both of us, I'm not one to disagree with common sense, thats why I didn't disagree with your comment about multiple revives etc
@xREEFERxMADNESSx you are saying what battlefield is supposed to be, yet i hardly believe you work there so you have nothing to say really. they made it the way it is and so it has a realistic touch to it, yet it is still a game so it has to be balanced.
@Korint91 . I'm just pointing out flaws concerning both sides, I think opposing teams should not show up on the map, nor should the Mortar user have unlimited ammo, these changes would make the game better for everyone, wouldn't they not ? I'm not being ignorant in my replies, just pointing out obvious flaws ... unlike you saying I have no say cause I don't work at EA, wtf, get fucked
I was defending on metro today and the attackers had 6 or 7 223's sitting at the back of the map. Needless to say they did this every time I killed them, so it gets reticulum at times. No one ended up setting any charges.
AVeryNiceEverything 1 month ago
Sounds fair enough to me.
I like my Mortars in this class but I also like my MAV in Recon class too.
Happy hunting.
L1ne0fS1ght 1 month ago
@L1ne0fS1ght you too sir
GranadaDeFumasa 1 month ago
Makes me laugh all this talk about the various weapons, vehicles and styles of play.
Spamming with a Mortar. This is a Battlefield matey. If I was fighting for real in Afghanistan (god forbid) I don't think anyone would call me in for 'spamming' the Taliban with my Mortar.
We 'play' how we play if I want to snipe all day from a fixed position that's what i'll do.
All is fair in love and WAR.
L1ne0fS1ght 1 month ago
@L1ne0fS1ght agreed mate. My point is that if left alone, someone who spams mortars can be very effective. That's why I make it my job to take them out.
GranadaDeFumasa 1 month ago
What kit do u inlock mortars on
gtafan714 1 month ago
When do you unlock mortars? I want to complete the achievement for a new gun.
SatsumaBomb 2 months ago
You make no sense you say that it's extremely balanced... and then you admit that people abuse it. How is it balanced when people just endlessly spam points on CQ... I think they really need to update the game, I'm sick and tired of this re spawn to re-spawn shit.
scgamerd 2 months ago
@scgamerd it's been answered before by other people as well. It's balanced because you appear on the mini-map the instant you set down your mortar. It only takes one shot to destroy an enemy mortar. So it's up to you and your team to not let them spam the shit out of the objectives.
The problem is that no-one wants to do the dirty job. People want to play their favorite class and don't care about winning. They'll just sit back and snipe, or they'll spam RPGs across the map.
GranadaDeFumasa 2 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa Showing up on the minimap isn't really that big of a deal when you can sit in your deployment in a no man's land shelling the enemy. So you can mortar them right back, and then go back to your class you were playing before. What if they keep mortaring? Do you keep switching your class? It's balanced even if it forces someone to not get to play what they want? Yes, you should help your team, but you shouldn't be forced to play one class because of bs like this.
omegaxtrigun 2 months ago
@omegaxtrigun If I see them mortaring all day long I don't switch to another class. I keep my support/mortar class on for the entire game. I make it my job to stop them. It's the same if the other team has some competent guys on a chopper and they're wrecking the place. I use my engineer stinger class. If you choose to snipe, or play assault despite the fact that you're being killed from above then it's your fault for loosing. I opt to adjust to the game and do what it takes to win
GranadaDeFumasa 2 months ago 3
@GranadaDeFumasa That's your personal playstyle. I do that fairly often to, but there are times when you're trying to play with a different kit for a reason, and shouldn't be forced to play another just because the other team is abusing stupid things. Switching to engi for vehicles is different. Vehicles are a normal part of the game. Mortaring from out of bounds isn't. It needs fixed. If you're sitting in your spawn and damage an enemy, you should get put out of bounds as well.
omegaxtrigun 2 months ago
What version is this? is looks like dogshit! PC or nothing, MAXED out of nothing.
YonOtto 3 months ago
@YonOtto not getting in a PC vs console war. Never have, never will. Xbox graphics are inferior, but I don't give a flying fuck.
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago 5
@GranadaDeFumasa Couldn't agree more. Same game, I don't care if one version has an extra pixel or something.
TheSerpant1483 3 months ago
FUCK YEH! wen I get this I'm spamming the shit out of everyone, fuck what you all think.
YonOtto 3 months ago
Thats exactly what I do. Mortars are just annoying so every time someone brings out their mortar I take out mine just to take them out.
futboleroR10 3 months ago
I've put in 20hrs of gameplay and can count on one hand how many times I've been killed by mortars...i like how u take them out though...i usually go looking for them
ssgtsrt8 3 months ago
@ssgtsrt8 I've 100+ hrs and there are those games where the other team has constantly 2-3 people mortaring. That's when you really need to counter them or they'll run over you
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
how does that m60 have no recoil? any lmg i use literally points at the top of my screen when i shoot them
Oxcide129 3 months ago
@Oxcide129 burst fire?
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
@BrahnTheHandyMan that just happens automaticly its sorta like a bug or a lag so to say.
GoldenChildXD 3 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa USA. Washington State
wallengene 3 months ago
How did you flip your screen when using the mortar. You did it like every time.
BrahnTheHandyMan 3 months ago
@BrahnTheHandyMan not sure what you mean?
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa For example when you set the mortar up at 0:20 you are looking at two lanes on the screen then it instantly flips to a different part of the map.
BrahnTheHandyMan 3 months ago
@BrahnTheHandyMan Bug?
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa I don't know maybe.
BrahnTheHandyMan 3 months ago
Awesome man, that looks like the perfect counter for camping bitches. Looks like a ton of fun to use too.
iAreRenHo3k 4 months ago
@iAreRenHo3k even when you get killed by a mortar, it's still not that rage-inducing as mw3 lol
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
good tips bro!
nacho1007 4 months ago
I have just got the mortar upgrade, thankyou for the vid and free help on playing the game. this has put the motar onto a whole new level. didnt realize you could take out tanks cool :)
de11381 4 months ago
Great vid man, next time im getting shot out by 2-3 enemies im just gonna back off and pull out the mortar!
witmylotus 4 months ago
Wow, I've yet to play a round with as many mortars as I saw in the video! I like the video - mortars aren't very smart to use constantly, someone is going to be wise enough to spawn in and drop one on you. I only spam mortars to support MCOMs in the open that are close to being destroyed. It's also a good weapon to make tanks paranoid with a shell or two.
satmax 4 months ago
@satmax that's how it should be used. Can't stand people who spend the entire match spamming them. I never let them get away with it though :)
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa Doesn't anyone ever use smoke? Once I unlock it (I don't use support much) I plan to use the smokes (40mm as well) to allow my team to move up safely and ambush enemy positions. Do you ever use this? If so, can you make a video guide for us? That'd be sweet.
Liked, subscribed, favorited, shared.
Kanonamos 3 months ago
@Kanonamos I've had a lot of similar comments. It completely slipped my mind, should have talked about smoke...
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa don't forget about combining smoke with IRNV ;]
Kanonamos 3 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa But regardless, this video guide is very helpful and informative, good work Mr. GrenadaDeFumasa :)
Kanonamos 3 months ago
DUDE its simple dont have unlimited amo!
ShawnAnthony007 4 months ago
Great video keeper going
xxXThebudXxx 4 months ago
And campers deserve to die
xxXThebudXxx 4 months ago
Opes camping
xxXThebudXxx 4 months ago
Yeah but any k** with will get you
xxXThebudXxx 4 months ago
YOU FORGOT ABOUT SMOKE ROUNDS!!
using the mortar for smoke cover can help your team out alot more than shelling objectives.
mrfrosty8172 4 months ago 10
@mrfrosty8172 i know... I've replied to other comments about it as well. Should have talked about smoke....
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago 4
which gun are u using ?
technomans011 4 months ago
granada!
breski1303 4 months ago 2
how is this game on platforms?I have been wavering on buying it or not.Also did they fix all the glitches and bad servers I have been hearing about? I have MW3 and its fun but i do love all the vehicle gamplay in BF. I am a fan of both series and i am wondering if gameplay is better than BC2,and is the destruction really that realistic? if someone could answer my questions that'd be great
XxXxxXxX14471 4 months ago
@XxXxxXxX14471 . On console the destruction is a joke, and in my opinion BFBC'2 is far better
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx how are the graphics and vehicles compared to bad company 2
XxXxxXxX14471 4 months ago
@XxXxxXxX14471 Graphics are definitely an improvement, flight characteristics of the helicopter is great, vehicles are good, but in saying this the tanks just don't seem that strong anymore, speaking of its armor, you get taken out pretty promptly, and due to destruction being a fucking failure in some places, often you find your self right next to the flag getting hit by RPG's from a soldier hiding behind a wall your trying to blow away, so major fail when it comes to that
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@XxXxxXxX14471 this being my opinion of course, you might love it, I just cannot seem to enjoy it like I do BFBC'2, always get pissed of, and some of the maps are ridiculously small compared to BFBC'2, EA kinda promised the BF community big maps, and honestly most are utter crap, for instance operation metro, conquest is just one big bottle neck, sucks ass, but again, just my opinion,
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
yo my thing is, in real life....theres a whole lot more than fucking morters. It makes the game that much more intense. people should be happy that mortars are in the game becuase it just makes it that much more interesting! So the people who are really good at aiming and killing want to do away with them cause it takes away their ability to just run around gungho going nuts and the people who cant aim for shit spam mortars...boo fucking whoooo
axgyfire 4 months ago
it just bugs me how its unlimited mortars...-_-,
DeRealUno 4 months ago
@DeRealUno you've got a good point there...mortars should not have unlimited ammo
KyleAlex92 4 months ago
i play on pc and didn't find a way to move away once i placed a mortar...i just cant exit it like a vehicle, whats the key lol ??
1337ezekiel 4 months ago
@1337ezekiel use same key as you did to enter?
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
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stromchin 4 months ago
its kind of like using recon class to take out other pesky snipers...i would use mortar's to take out the other dudes that are constantly using mortar's
speedstangsixtyfiv3 4 months ago
@speedstangsixtyfiv3 . Only difference being when you choose to go Recon class to take another sniper out, a handy map don't show you exactly where the other sniper is, you have to hunt for him, unlike the little mortar map that basically give you a effortless kill, this is what I find fucking stupid.
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx yeah its like DICE threw in the mortar's to satisfy the COD players cuz it looks awfully similar to something out of a COD game.
speedstangsixtyfiv3 4 months ago
the reason mortars are in the game is to make you keep moving.
Same reason there are snipers.
If you stand still for too long, no matter which map, you're going to die. You have to keep moving all the time. Snipers who can kill you while running are a dime a dozen, and mortars have to be very lucky to hit you if you don't stand still.
Same thing with vehicles in other battlefield games, if you stand still, some mortar rounds are going your way.
Still, they might not be op, but they a cheap kill.
stromchin 4 months ago
what if you dont have mortars????
bennyboy27or 4 months ago
@bennyboy27or it's a team game. Someone else on your team should take them out if you can't. But the same thing applies for any weapon upgrade. I could say the same about flares and guided missiles on jets.
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa Good point, everything should be unlocked from the start! It is impossible to counter mortars with mortars if you haven't unlocked them, same with jets and heat seeking missiles and flares... But, I guess, we wont be going back to the old ways... :\
SpanishBroomaker 4 months ago
@SpanishBroomaker get better. this is BF3, there's always more than 1 way to accomplish something.
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
@94hourstilAHIG I don't need to, all I am saying is that not everyone starts with a high skill level, therefore the flaw is in the design.
SpanishBroomaker 4 months ago
@SpanishBroomaker You're given over 9000 ways to kill the guy in this game, including a sniper rifle.
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
@94hourstilAHIG That doesn't affect if the game is balanced...
SpanishBroomaker 4 months ago
@SpanishBroomaker WHAT ARE YOU SAYING
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa Which/what Level/Class do you on unlock mortar on?
wastedmoney15 4 months ago
so many mortards. thats why I prefer OP.Metro and Peak.
tylerhan2000 4 months ago
It takes a while to unlock the mortar. I'll keep these tips in mind when I do unlock it.
HarmoniousChirp 4 months ago
i also think there as balanced as they can be with the damage.. i mean its just a onehit kill if you get hit almost on top or close to youre feet.. as soon as the mortar hits just a little bit of the target he can ran away + you just see ppl that are market so its fair in my opinion
BOTiTTE 4 months ago
@BOTiTTE something tells me it's 50 damage. Any time I've been hit by one, my health goes down to 50. Quite sure that's how it is. Needs 2 shells to kill someone. Usually kills people if they're already injured.
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
"when ppl find easy ways to kill ppl, they abuse it" but then he says its balanced.
how is it balanced when ppl abuse it lol...
but great video, maybe now someone else will take out the other team's mortars so i can go rambo with c4 on tanks.
kuo982 4 months ago
@kuo982 he just showed you how it's balanced dude. he could take out enemy mortars with ease.
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
@94hourstilAHIG looool im saying he says ppl abuse it but its balanced. just pointing it out im not saying its not balanced, i only find them annoying.
kuo982 4 months ago
@kuo982 I'm not contradicting myself by saying that. People will abuse it if they're left unchallenged. However, as I show in the video it's really easy to counter them. Hence it is balanced. It is only because people don't take the time to counter-mortar that some players are allowed to spam away all game long. Not on my watch though :) Makes sense now?
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
At least this guy isnt a noob like some other people...
i2ealiize 4 months ago
very helpfull! thanks!!
coppmk4 4 months ago
How to counter and prevent mortars?
Encourage more mortar users...?
Garubbavision 4 months ago
@Garubbavision If those who abuse the mortars realize they can be taken out easily by anybody with a mortar, then they wont abuse it as much
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
mortar shooting rectangle shell
lol
MrJc1337 4 months ago
Very useful video, very smart comments on how to be efficient in the game.
Thanks for sharing !
MychKyne.
pinnocenzi 4 months ago
Tired of hearing people cry about players using things that are put in the game to use. I will Mortar the hell out of the other team if they stay grouped up, and i will spend all round in a tank. No matter what it is, when people get owned by something they always wanna cry unfair. I am called a Tank Whore ALL THE TIME. Thats all good since i do spend alot of time in the tank, BUT, is that not why its put in the game. Come on people just play your style and let others play thiers.
Outland3r1 4 months ago
@Outland3r1 Amen
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
@Outland3r1 I completely agree. Haven't played much last week but I was #2 in the world (360) with IFV kills. Its a part of the game so find a way to counter. If someone else got the tank first I immediately switch to c4 and take it out. As far as mortars go I take it more personally and go get the knife kill and will die until I get it. Other strategy... use a suppressor... mortars can't see you then
gtsvipers999 4 months ago
@gtsvipers999 a tactic I've seen being used a lot is MAV and mortar combo. One guy will spot players with the MAV and the other will drop mortar shells on them. So silencers don't always keep you safe
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
Cute console gameplay. On PC try counter mortaring when it's 32vs32 and 7 of the opposite team are mortaring, and waiting to mortar you.
armenof 4 months ago
@armenof so why aren't there 7 people counter-mortaring? I don't get your argument
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
The reason why some people think it's OP because it's way too accurate and in HC you can be 20ft from the impact crater and get nailed.
clone635 4 months ago
mommy, he's not letting me get to the mcom!!! Too many people complain because they can't do something. I like the video telling people to counter-mortar, but the complaining about spamming is annoying is unnecessary...
JuanMauztez 4 months ago
@JuanMauztez You're complaining right now
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
i agree and like this video. made some good points. but sometimes mortar spamming randomly can help your team defend. its like snipers at the back of the field
Krsn666 4 months ago
@Krsn666 agreed it can be extremely useful. That's why it needs to be countered when you're faced with a team that's mortaring a lot
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
mortar was going through the building around 2min?
iAreStoopid 4 months ago
Vs. PC, those are some crummy graphics. Look at the bus??
ChrisKueppers 4 months ago
@ChrisKueppers he is not using the texture pack.
sourface116 4 months ago
@sourface116 that's true. Need to buy a xbox HD to install it. Will do as soon as finances allow me to...
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
Mortars are balanced. Something is only OP when you have no counter to it. This video proves its easy to counter. Anoying? yes! Usefull? VERY! OP? no...
If you get pwnd by a mortar, it translates that you should MOVE! How do you think they are used IRL?
besides, since when was war fair? realisticly speaking, BF3 did a great job.
Cant take the heat? get out of the fire.. It a challange ppl.
Fercurix 4 months ago
@Fercurix THANK YOU. great comment
94hourstilAHIG 4 months ago
Wwwwaaaa!!!! Call the wambulance!!!! who cares if u have an uimited amounted of ammo for it? One shell+mortar whore=easy kill...if your constantly getting bombarded with mortar shells I think it's time to visit your local retailer and pick up mw3
OnRePeAt11 4 months ago
i use c4 instead of mortar
TheImplicitflower 4 months ago
The people shooting the mortars were DEFENDERS and were DEFENDING their base rightfully so. its called ADAPT AND OVERCOME.
So they shouldnt have made mortars because they are cheap and unrealistic? Thats not how battlefield works. They did there job, and i ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE!
9903469 4 months ago
Great video! People need to stop whining about mortars. The only time they cause a problem is when they spam your spawn or an objective, and this just shows how to get around that. Why are you hating on this vid, he's not the one spamming an objective and trying to rack up an easy 10+ kills. Oh wait, you must be the guy that used to spam and now is getting a taste of your own medicine.
xSubaa 4 months ago
@xSubaa ... Who is your message directed at champ ... most people that are "Whining" make a good point, and they are far from dissing "GranadaDeFumasa" but bringing up good points that would make the game better for all of us play, insuring the mortar user has limited ammo would stop mortar spamming, easily fixed flaw with the game ...
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx It wasn't directed at you. I agree mortars should have limited ammo, but as for the way the game stands now this video shows that they aren't as OP as everyone makes them out to be. Afterall how many times do you truly see mortar spam in all the games you've played so far, 10%?
xSubaa 4 months ago
As the support class wouldn't you just throw ammo by your mortar thus defeating the purpose of limiting the ammo count? There's sufficient time delay between shots fired to do what you want, unless multiple mortars are going off then counter mortar.@xSubaa
JuanMauztez 4 months ago
@xSubaa Yeah I agree, they are definitely not OP, nor have I seen spammer, I used to use it occasionally, be it smoke or HE, but after repeatedly being knocked out by a counter mortar that was basically handed my position with no effort, that kind of sucks, never minded being stabbed or shot whilst on a mortar, but when you get counter hit, that kinda sucks, I feel like I'm cheating when I take out another mortar via the map, exact reason I don't use the mortar anymore, it sucks
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
I still disagree the Mortars are OP because as you said you do get spotted on the map but when you are sitting in your base ffs...
NewGuyCommentary 4 months ago
@NewGuyCommentary you can still get mortared in your base. Look at the beginning of the video. The double kill occurs behind the grey zone
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
Its the same as when someone is sniping and camping!! as well as using the exploding shotgun shells!!!! ......
bubba9r 4 months ago
On PC you show up on the minimap the moment you pull out the mortar/set it up.. Makes it next to useless since you're basically always known and harder to counter enemy mortars since it takes a couple of seconds to set it up... Probably a bug, bit it doesn't really seem like they're fixing any of these things for quite some time... Too busy advertising the expansion pack... -.-
Aenonar 4 months ago
i use mortars to take out tanks, it helps the engineers and it only takes 1 to 2 shots
plumokin 4 months ago
@plumokin I concur. It's easier when more than one person is taking jabs at the tank.
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
Claims mortars are not OP
Goes on to show how mortars best counter is other mortars and how to just slink away and get some free kills without being even slightly at risk.
Don't get me wrong, your videos are great and you're a champ for sharing your stuff. I just disagree very strongly on mortars. I use them like you use them, but I've stopped because it's much too powerful.
Nudz 4 months ago 2
@Nudz I appreciate you taking the time to comment on my video. I don't agree they're OP though. How many times have you killed someone with 1 shot from the mortar? Unless they're standing completely still it takes 3-4 shots to get 1 kill. in that time you're already counter mortared.
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago 6
@GranadaDeFumasa This is true the few times I used mortars I rarely got kills, just kill assist.
Bookoo327 4 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa the problem starts if nobody on your team want/have the mortar of their own :)
sequencemobile 4 months ago
Good video you made me face the undeniable truth with mortars, I shall try this now. Thanks!
Charger93cubx 4 months ago
This is partially the type 'mortaring' I approve. I only use mortars against a mortar. I play hardcore so the splashdmg and dmg itself are higher and more lethal than in SC. So it's most of the time a fucking pain in the ass that mortar. otherwise a good video.
Hakkis109 4 months ago
Just to clear this up: this is a support class weapon?
Predator11563 4 months ago
@Predator11563 yup
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
Thank you for this post, Mortars are the only thing I dislike, especially when im sneaking up on a platoon and then out of no where i get Mortared. Great vid.
Thanks much
juicEKanN 4 months ago
I use the MAV to kill mortars... if its not a roadkill just put them infront of them and they blow up...excelent troll ... keeps them off the mortar =)
Iceews 4 months ago
@Iceews didn't know that, that's good to know :)
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
@Iceews until your mav gets shot down by a stinger and yes you can lock on to the mav with a stinger
stevdog39561 4 months ago
@stevdog39561 Yeah i know but amazingly nobody has ever shot down my MAV(20 kills with it)... not yet... they tend not to sacrifice they rockets since there are no air vehicles on metro and teheran and those maps ... I personally think mortars give a good vibe to the maps ... mortar spammers tend to be unexperienced mortar users so they hardly get a kill on a fast moving player ...falling mortars all over the place on the first part of metro on rush is very exciting and fun =)
Iceews 4 months ago
Two mortars side by side. Bang these faggots' head together.
MrRobkendrick 4 months ago
You sir, just took away the only game breaking frustration I had about this game! Thank you so much, this is VERY useful!
akiddya 4 months ago
@akiddya no problem dude
GranadaDeFumasa 3 months ago
Subbed
smnk3 4 months ago
I just walk my ass over there and shoot them in the face or stab them. Even if they are in their spawn point.
CaptSaveAHo3 4 months ago
@CaptSaveAHo3 yeah I'll do that whenever possible. It just feels better giving them a taste of their own medicine :)
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
why do you need a guide on using mortars, its the most fucking stupid weapon in the game even a blind guy can use
The7alfa 4 months ago
@The7alfa it's the when that matters, not the how
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago 4
Don't forgot smoke rounds, those help a lot when attacking an objective. Me and my clan were playing rush and me using smoke rounds made the difference between winning and losing.
3P1Cninja 4 months ago
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viruz7776 4 months ago
nice tips there, thanks a lot
benoitddd42 4 months ago
Awesome vid, really shows how its done! I'm tired of watching the same 4-5 guys just bombing a flag or m-com somewhere 24/7.. This has put me in the mood of trying a few mortar shells, though I still favour the assault/engineer classes.
Michababen 4 months ago
@Michababen that's the thing though. these guys go apeshit with their mortars because people aren't willing to switch classes. I always switch to support when someone on the other team is spamming mortars, always. I know no one else will
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
Also I spam mortars, not to get "easy" kills but because i like using it.
Eezaspanner 4 months ago
Mortar Tubes should get hot and have a cooldown period like real life. Maybe even have a "kit" upgrade (whatever you call them ) that reduces that cooldown or allows u to pee on the mortar.
Eezaspanner 4 months ago
Well, at least you tried helping people, I don't know why people bitch. Anyway, those are 360 graphics!? =O
gtarules1 4 months ago
@gtarules1 lol yes. Can't do anything about the graphics guys, I'm not a magician
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
fuck everyone else, im subbing
MrAmmo30 4 months ago
Wow, I have to say good luck and good job suppressing to hell of comments that are attacking you. Good video, helped me.
TheRawrs64 4 months ago
@TheRawrs64 don't feel people are attacking me. I'm not offended. Thanks for taking the time to comment
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
Great video thanks!
bananaoctopus 4 months ago
Mortars have infinite ammo?!? OMG why!!!
Cone419 4 months ago
what button did u push to zoom out in the mortar view???
RastaLee311 4 months ago
challenge: destroy a jet with a mortar. lol mission impossible
jarky418 4 months ago
You'r relying on the games obvious flaw to get counter kills, and that sucks, battlefield is suppose to be about realism, and in real life opposing mortar teams don't show up on a fucking map, this should not be aloud to happen cause its plain B/S, also the mortar should have certain amount of rounds, REALISM FOR FUCK SAKES
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx you mean taking 3-4 bullets from an M60 and getting revived only to get blasted by an RPG in the head and revived again is realism? It's a game above all
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago 7
@GranadaDeFumasa . Thats were I would agree that revives from RPG and Head shots should not be possible, I'm all for changes that make the game more real, Opposing mortar teams showing up on the map is utter bull shit, unless one of your own team mates are sent out to spot them, how can you argue with a want for more realism, god damn
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx it's up to personal preference mate. I'm fine with the amount of realism as it is...
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa . I can see your fine with the amount of realism, cause you resort to using the games lack of realism to get kills. Nice one
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx I don't play for kills, I play to enjoy myself and win as much as possible
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa Of course you don't play for kills, that would just be stupid wouldn't it ... thats why you pick support class when you hear mortars being fired, you then set up your mortar and "kill" yes I said "kill" the opposing mortar team easily, only because the game shows you the opposing players exact position, so yes obviously you do not play for kills, and or utilize the games flaw for your advantage, nice one.
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx I also play recon class, and engineer class and assault class. Try using the mortar for an entire game. You'll go 15-1, so what? I can get a lot more kills, (50+ kills) without the mortar
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx I also play recon class, and engineer class and assault class. Try using the mortar for an entire game. You'll go 15-1, so what? I can get a lot more kills, (50+ kills) without the mortar
GranadaDeFumasa 4 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa its terrible unless theres a group of campers or a stationary tank
plumokin 4 months ago
@GranadaDeFumasa . Same here, I am by no means dissing how you play, just pointing out flaws with the game, that make it suck, ie the positioning of Mortar teams on the map, and the unlimited ammo, having limited ammo would curb spamming, and removing the positioning would remove easy no risk counter kills, changes which would make the game better for the both of us, I'm not one to disagree with common sense, thats why I didn't disagree with your comment about multiple revives etc
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
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molo265 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx you are saying what battlefield is supposed to be, yet i hardly believe you work there so you have nothing to say really. they made it the way it is and so it has a realistic touch to it, yet it is still a game so it has to be balanced.
Korint91 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Korint91 . I'm just pointing out flaws concerning both sides, I think opposing teams should not show up on the map, nor should the Mortar user have unlimited ammo, these changes would make the game better for everyone, wouldn't they not ? I'm not being ignorant in my replies, just pointing out obvious flaws ... unlike you saying I have no say cause I don't work at EA, wtf, get fucked
xREEFERxMADNESSx 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx btw, in a realisitc game you would probably just sit in a corner since you would just have 1 life (that we know of)
Korint91 4 months ago
@xREEFERxMADNESSx FAIL Battlefield 3 never supposed to be close to realism! If you want to play a game thats close to relism, start play Arma 2!