TVO's The Agenda on the atheist ad campaign #1

[jr73340]

Following the end of World War II, the World Jewish Congress donated a great deal of money to the Vatican in gratitude for saving so many Jews during the war. In 1945 prominent Rabbi Herzog of Jerusalem thanked the Pope Pius "for his life saving efforts on behalf of the Jews during the occupation of Italy." He continued, "The people of Israel will never forget what his Holiness and his delegates did ...for our brothers and sisters in the most tragic hour of our history."

[daverigby23]

Stalin actually trained to be a priest. You could say he saw how easy it was to manipulate the Russian who believed that the Zsar was gods representative on earth.

[bademoxy]

in terms of sheer numbers, no religious or political system destroyed human life like state socialism did within the past century.

the inquisitition , the witch burnings, irish sectarian killings of the last thousand years of christianity killed hundreds of thousands, not tens of millions like in china and soviet union.

[lionofthejungle]

A formal logic lesson on the fly for Ms. Shaidle.

[jakefree24]

I agree, Stalin killed in the name of Communism. Most atheists aren't Communists. And how many "savages", Jews & heretics did Kathy's good Catholic monarchs murder too?

[resistanceunion]

Stalin killed intelectuals , poor , believers or non believers. Stalin maybe seen as atheist but if you read his letters he saw god. He thought he was God. He wrote "No man no Problem"

[DSD1v57BG32]

At least the communist don't burn you at the stakes

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[Brantinger]

She is right, atheism is according to Marx one of the essential assumptions of communism. And one shouldnt forget that believers of all kinds were persecuted in the former east-bloc for being religious and not for having a certain kind of religion.

[metrx330]

Hitler was a Catholic and a vegetarian. He killed 6 million jews. Does that make catholiscm and vegetariansm evil?

[Brantinger]

Being Catholic and vegetarian didnt made him prosecute Lutherans or meat-eaters. Religious people were persecuted for being faithfull by a regime that based itself on radical atheism. The comparison is ridiculous!

[zenhemmo]

@Brantinger

The Nazi movement was basically just the right-wing of the Catholic Church (as the Church is perfectly comfortable with anti-semitism, child rape, and other inhumane acts and beliefs): the Church celebrated Hitler's birthday from the pulpet, and it also helped many of the Nazis to escape justice.

"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work. "

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

[Brantinger]

@zenhemmo Thats not true. That might be right for the fascist movements in the mediterrain, but in Germany the NSDAP was especially weak in the areas where the catholic "zentrum" party was very strong. The Nazi milieus were rather those of the much more secular protestant nationalism that saw itself standing in the tradition of prussia. That Hitler envoked christianity sometimes is right, though rather tactical, the NSDAP has a clear though tactically tamed anti-christian tendency.

[lionofthejungle]

I wish some of these Christians like Kathy Shaidle (not all Christians) would take some time and learn a thing or two about logical fallacies. She asked the guy a completely loaded question and he have her a good answer.

[indignant99]

Another flagrant fucktard woman. Deceitful BITCH.

[ChuckyJesus666]

"Not to me." That's because she wants simple answers to complex questions. He's right.

[Bleatmop]

Hear that. Fascists like that prefer to dumb everything down to the simplest terms so that they can label it Us or Them. Black Or White. With Us or Against Us. Evil or Good.

False Dichotomies: Creating simple worlds for simple people for at least 6000 years ;)

[ChuckyJesus666]

LOL -- that would make a good bus ad.....

[jakefree24]

She is a simple person.