Learn Shanghainese: Are you freakin' deaf?

[Liuhuayue]

I feel like you made this 10x more complicated then it actually needs to be.

Also, your accent is a little harsh... :/

Good try, though. Very few Americans even know that Shanghainese exists...

[63110236]

As a Shanghainese it was pretty funny for me to watch this but I really like it! Viva la Shanghainese

[mllebright]

I like your explanation of 呆。

[beterhans]

I laughed when you talking about past tense.... Why people make language so complex for the leaner?

[leelee71]

So glad i never had to learn my shanghainese from this guy (I learned from my mother and relatives).......his style of teaching is just blah blah blaaaaaaah....on and on and ooooooooooon......and his shanghainese is not good. And why is he saying the beginning in Mandarin? Though that is quite good.....

[alleywatson]

you're a pro man, great work even my wife who is from 上海 thinks you're very good

[alleywatson]

you're a pro man, great work

[whitedogsrule]

Interesting that you wrote your own pinyin! I sort of did the same for Putonghua myself. For words like 是 I write shi with appropriate diacritic marks. For 一, for example I write yи, because that tells me it's the same sound as 'eee' because I R/W/S Pусский. It's a big help to me, as pinyin, with my modifications is faster to write then Palladius, and other students in my classes can understand it, after some minor explanation. It works for me; your mileage may vary, LOL!

[alanxdma]

BTW, Shanghai dialect shall sound "Zzang(3rd pitch) - hé - é (3rd pitch)- ¸ôu

You noticed I used French plus Chinese pitch for the pronounciation, because I find it has some similarity to French on the phonetics. Shanghainese needs a lot of movement of the front part of the oral cavity more like when you speak French. While the northern dialects which mostly are spoken using the back part , especially a lot of throat . (maybe that`s one of the causes of excessive phlegm :) ).

[alanxdma]

Mike, I am a Shanghainese, and I am amazed by your effort. Your phonetics for Shanghai dialect seem to be very creative and somehow pretty accurate. Some old dialects like Shanghaiese (wu yu) are overwhelmed and eliminated by the politically powerful northern dialects. Now in Shanghai, most of the kids can hardly speak fluent Shanghainese with no accent. My son who was born here in Canada can even speak it better than my brother's son in shanghai. This is sad. Thank you for your good work!

[equn]

making phone calls is not da diwo but dang(v) diwo. :-)

[Glossika]

@equn Good point.

[hdkaj]

How do you say "long time no see" in Shanghainese???

[Glossika]

@hdkaj Long time no see in Shanghai is: zzã yü vak ji (長遠勿見) Tones: LO-HI-MID-LO

[ajfleming604]

Hey Glossika do you have a series of videos i could view offline, when im not connected, i really like your lessons and have found them to be very instructional and informative

[ayanuhito]

"pitch accents existing in japanese"

now i see why the chinese friends always

say shanghainese sounds more like japanese

than a chinese dialect.

[lisaslastaccount]

wow shanghainese is super hard to learn

ur pretty good

[Abrilpara2]

How do you say "snake" (蛇) in Shanghainese?

[Glossika]

@Abrilpara2 蛇 is zzo13 (low rising tone) in Shanghai. It's the same word as "tea" 茶.

[mcgainey]

jesus, this guy is smart, mandarin is insane difficult enough, shanghainese is another world

[saigonpunkid]

the way he pronounces lai is really mandarin

[zccimc]

I'm from Shanghai, and that was incredibly funny.

[studntsoundz]

I am desperate to learn this language ... so is it actually okay to use mandarin as a guide line? Just curious, because I'm Malaysian chinese but... the mandarin we speak is not as ''thick'' in accent as the mandarin spoken in China.... so i might have a problem.

[danielairy]

@studntsoundz everyone speak mandarin in china with their own acent anyway. check out the nanjing mandarin @.@

[pphcitoh]

oh, damn.

you're really acknowledged, but you should really think about to pronounce a LITTLE better.. you're ruining it

[warwheelz]

Part 3:

While these days, Shanghainese has been influenced by Mandarin to a certain degree, it is NOT and NEVER was a dialect or branch off of Mandarin. But from listening to Glossika, one would never know it. It's quite obvious Glossika is applying a lot of his Mandarin learning and even rules to Shanghainese. You can just hear it.

[jyehh]

i should say, u have a very standard Mandarin prounciation....but poor shanghainess.....actually the tones r wrong.....

[laoshu505000]

So what if he does. We're here using youtube as a tool for learning. We're all here to support each other for language learning. This is why I'm maiing this comment here. If you can't give any positive contributions or anything to help out with an individuals language learning, you shouldn't make such comments like that.

[warwheelz]

@laoshu505000

Part 1:

Get a grip dude. No need to so rude. It's called constructive criticism and I'm with jyehh on this one. Been following Glossika's so called "Shanghai" lessons and unfortunately, he IS butchering the pronunciations. : (

While we do understand there's not exactly a standard to Shanghainese, still it certainly should NOT sound as Mandarin as Glossika teaches. In fact, he sounds REALLY quite GAY, as if he learned it from a woman!

[warwheelz]

Part 2:

So while we may appreciate his appreciation of the language, we DON'T appreciate his acting as OUR voice and trying to be THE expert for OUR language, especially when he hasn't mastered it nearly as well as he seems to think.

If someone goes so far as having a website and video lessons on a language, please at least pronounce it CORRECTLY.

[warwheelz]

Pt 4 (Pt 3 is out of order):

A lot of us find it offensive to hear our language being taught to sound WRONG.

It's a lot like playing a instrument, it's better to learn it correctly from the beginning. Have fun trying to supporting each other in trying to learn it, but it seems Glossika is trying to do more than that. It applies to you too, laoshu50.... I will give credit where credit is due in saying that your accent & pronunciation in some ways is actually a little better than Glossika's.

[NorseRonin]

@warwheelz you're out of control man, all that you've said could have just been one paragraph. no need to say someone sounds gay man, maybe that's just revealing your own insecurities.

[numba1g23]

@NorseRonin: thank you.

[numba1g23]

@warwheelz: As a native speaker of 上海话, I agree that his accent is way off.

That being said, I'm certainly not OFFENDED by this video. I understand Glossika's effort. English education in China faces these problems: focusing on wrong aspects of the language, lack of non-native speakers, etc. In countries like the US, I have never heard of a single university offering our language...

YET: If you are seriously interested in 上海话: yes. find a NATIVE speaker to teach you.

[greatwizaki]

@numba1g23

you are too harsh. i bet 99.9% of all shanghainese speakers don't know the phonology and grammar of their own language/dialect - me included, a native speaker. well done mike! you are amazing.