Trusted computing

[kc0nlh]

Starting in 2006, many new laptop computers have been sold with a Trusted Platform Module chip built-in.

[sibghut]

very nicely made video, not very informative though.

can anyone tell me what category this type of videos fall in? Any good tutorial websites to get me started?

[lumaix]

"Chip manufacturers Intel and AMD, hardware manufacturers such as Dell, and operating system providers such as Microsoft all plan to include Trusted Computing into coming generations of products." ~Wikipedia

[Reproductivist]

@lumaix AMD and Intel have put trusting computing on their chips for years. F ex even the Core 2 has it. And ARM to has it, called Trustzone. VIA however does not from what's on their homepage at least.

[kindasport]

woow, wonderful! really great job!!

[VueltaAlPasado]

Trusted Computing? Moar liek trusted DICTATORSHIP

[darkultra]

Because US companies are not allowed to develop and sell "unsecure" software, others would have to jump onto the TCP-train, so they would give total control over themself to the TCPA (USA?), or they would have to live completely without software and harware from US-companies. No Windows, Solaris, MacOS, Photoshop, Winamp or to say it short: The largest part of all software that's used on this planet would not be usable.

[darkultra]

Passing this law would be punished with up to 5 years of prision and up to $500.000 fine. The same would apply for development of "open" software. Open means that it would work on systems that're not TCPA-conform.

Even if this bill would only valid in the USA it would have catastrophically effects worldwide.

[darkultra]

In the USA there's a planed bill, the so called CBDPTA (Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act). First it was callen SSSCA (Security Systems Standards and Certification Act). The new name reads much more harmless. Looks like the first name made it too easy to discover the purpose of this bill. This bill plans to legally force secure (TCPA-conform) systems. So in the USA it would then not be allowed to buy or sell systems that are not TCPA-conform.

[Crezth]

Man, corporations are so evil! I hate money and capitalism and freedom.

[FuzzyLogicxxx]

WTF u hate freedom?

[tatewakikuno]

@Crezth That's not the point!

2:04 SO STRONG !!

[JuddCaster]

That sounds like the attitude of a reactionary. "Anyone who hates corporations must hate money, capitalism and freedom". I still don't understand why capitalists love corporations so much.

[Crezth]

@JuddCaster Because corporations, for all the abuse they are sometimes guilty of (just like governments and religion) are often very productive organizations. That is to say, the reason you have a car, an affordable house, a personal computer, a stable job, and food on your plate.

They are often more efficient than competing government or publicly owned organizations and for that reason are the saving grace of competition and capitalism in general.

[JuddCaster]

But the main ideal behind capitalism is a free market, how can you justify corporations as a legal entity? So you only support government interference when it benefits the firms? That sounds like hypocrisy to me.

[artifactingreality]

this video doesn't explain anything.

Who are "they"? software companies? which ones? the government? which governments? hardware manufacturers? who?

How does it work? What happens when software is not trusted? Is this video even about software?

Please do explain.

[bbatnorsborg]

How can you see it and say it don't explain anything?

Look for example at AACS and what is required for a computer to send output to a HDMI device, in short it require that you have blind trust of others, either you know who or not, but they you trust have a common secret, they don't need to share what they did with your computer to the public, so nobody know what they can do with your computer that you use for your private information, and you can't change it or replace it with open software.

[artifactingreality]

no offence, but English isn't your first language is it?

[bbatnorsborg]

At least I understand what they say, but what is your excuse for not understand it?

Just think how much advantage you UK/US folks has of the fact that English is the Internet standard and you can sit there and judge peoples that try their best to help you understand.Thank you very much. Now, you can type something in another language then English and we can judge your skill.

You just have to face it, nobody is perfect, and we have to accept some errors.

[S1L3nCe]

Have you seen the ending?

"Learn more" followed by an url...

[phillipjfry6]

Treacherous Computing.

[olfrygt2007]

I don't really get it. A TPM is not everywhere. It is just in selected Business Notebooks and it does not control anything. It just stores the password YOU define to encrypt your harddrive. What's the problem?

[kotatsuken]

they dont store any password that you create. they store a secret key that you do not have access to and that you are not supposed to have access too. if you did research about this you would know this.

[V35T1N]

Like they say - trust should be mutual. "The industry" offers us hardware and software. Can they trust "us" ? Not all of us, obviously (as well as not all of "the industry" are evil maniacs, as they are usually portrayed). Some people simply want to own something they never paid for. As much as I hate DRM and all things alike - I can see the point. As long as it's not intrusive - I can live with it. Hell - I could even support it. Things like serial numbers work nicely...

[Ormaaj]

It is important to understand that trusted computing was not originally supposed to have anything to do with drm. Trusted computing is not secured hardware that the user is not supposed to be able to tamper with. Trusted computing has the potential to be abused by corporations who want to exploit it for drm purposes, but this is not why trusted computing infrastructure exists.

Trusted computing support is actually in the Linux kernel if you want to compile support for it and have the hardware,

[Ormaaj]

I do however feel that in theory TC is rather pointless when we have things like selinux. There is no reason to have that sort of enforcement at the hardware level when you have an operating system which can properly control its environment in a reliable way.

[StreetSurferDude]

i have no idea what this guy is talking about but i loved it.

[Evi1M4chine]

Oh come on! A drunk four year old can understand that. What are you...

*looks at the name*

Oh... I see...

[StreetSurferDude]

what the hell is supposed to mean?

[kotatsuken]

lol hehe :)

[Duerschaedel]

sound by simon mahler

Enter "trusted computing sound"

[magoterran]

Points for style not content.

[V35T1N]

I second that. It looks and sounds really nice.

[anon510]

i will continue to say "fuck drm" it finally dies

[Evi1M4chine]

And it does finally die. Have you noticed how the iTunes dropped it recently. And others do also.

The only joke is -- as usual -- Microsoft. Who in complete insanity created a new "store" and openly stated that if you buy a new mp3-player, you can not copy the songs, and can go fuck yourself (by buying them again for no reason at all!)

This only works if they *can* do it. So don't let them. There's iTunes anyway. :D

[mazebot]

love these type of videos

[dashwarts]

Does this mean my computer can't digitize my LP collection? Record gameplay vids? Obtain software I legally own where the disk/cart broke? Create something without a company fishing it out and copyrighting it before I'm even finished? Does this mean police cars will outnumber fire hydrants? Probably yes to all.

In brief: Can I even trust a TCP computer? No. Not even to load the BIOS.

[howbigis1gb]

Personal "believe". An overall well made video, but in my opinion, too vague and propagandaish

[fragrat]

brilliant. simply brilliant.

[xkuassix]

:(  How dare they!

[danoli3]

Manual Override Switch Plz.

[thesuperbiberx]

microsoft is the biggest fan of TCPA. I hate them...

[chackalsjc]

really good video.. shows the really truth about the "Trusted Computing"