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Simple and easy shelves...great job on explaining your work. Noticed the AMWAY 55 gal drum. If you still using this product and need some more give me a call: 919-398-0011 Ken
I agree nails are stronger and for some joints the second screw is a nail ,lol "However for Assembling screws are easier in most cases than nailing .
Also keep in mind I used liquid nail glue gun for each joint .After a couple months you can back out the screws an reuse on another project ! (I'm kidding ,but we tried removing a shelve by removing screws and almost had to saw it off to remove !
You should have used nails for this type of construction. I know everybody thinks screws are always stronger, but that's not the case. I used to think that too. What you build it pretty strong anyway, but nails would have been stronger. Hard to believe right? Nails resist shear (sideways force) screws resist pulling (vertical) with enough weight, the heads will tear and the shelves will fall. Its still strong enough for most uses anyway.
There is a much simpler shelving system to install that can fufill the exact same purpose. All of the shelves and brackets are constructed with solid oak and they only require a level and screwdriver to install. Best of all they require no studs for installation so you can place your shelves anywhere upon your wall. Search 'Wooden You Shelving'
I layed the 2X4 cross braces flat for a reason .To make more room for 'stuff'' ,lol That's what shelves are for......;stuff'...and the short distance really makes little difference in strength.
Grins ..try a straight down pressure on 4 screws on the end like you see ....and tell me what lbs it took to sheer it ...remember each joint has 'liquid nail ' in it also....you almost can't TEAR those joints apart...we have tried later to remove one or two shelves ?....omg almost have to cut the wood !!
This is wonderful. I want to try to make one for our basement. I'd like to put door fronts on for my two younger boys, who are very destructive. Any ideas on easy doors? :-) Maybe another video! Well, thanks for sharing.
The comment I made about the 20 ton crushablity of a pine 2X4 was for the upright supports only not the actual shelves. Many times I've seen way too much wood used in upright support of benches and shelves and actually not enough thought into proper support to prevent sag. It's a space utilization thing.Think how much weight (what is going on shelf) Think about the size of the objects.Think Ease of use (not too many uprights or doors in the way) Not too deep (where things on shelf can hide ) :)
This shelf set is anchored to wall through the backside upright 2X4. They were first put in place then shelves are install one at a time from bottom up. I will be posting Vids of how this is done
I would have the larger gap on the bottom. Usually those items are heavier. Plust you save on wood not using a bottom shelf you use the ground. Plus when there are not items placed you have the extra floor space.
To the question about parking ..yes we plenty of room for cars and equipment. The foot print was very small ,actually. 16 feet X 1 foot was the actual floor space taken up. I have since moved to a new location and built more shelves on this model A set of 'free standing shelves 2 foot X 8 foot and some shelves 20 ft long by 16 inches deep .Both sets are 8 foot high. Video later ,lol
The pine 2x4 is probably the most versatile building product out there. Very cost-effective. The recycled OSB (oriented strand board) is a great deal, too. It's almost as good as plywood but it's soooo much less expensive. And, it doesn't warp after getting wet.
The Reason I went flat with the cross bracing is to maximise the room under each shelf , Those cross braces are only 9 inches long . 2X the width of the 2X4 uprights plus 9 inches equals a 12 inch wide shelf , Those cross braces flat will hold anything the material used for actual shelving can hold. I appreciate all the fine comments. I never dreamed i'd get this many hits on this particular video
The only thing is the cross bracing......laying flat any 2x lumber is weaker. Could have run 24" center if the 2x brace was placed standing, like the shelf supports.
But I guess for the depth of the shelves, it really doesn't matter. Gonna build a set of these in my shop.
I think you are over estimating the compressive strength of a typical 2x4. (at least unbraced.) I looked this up online and this sounds more reasonable.
Posting so someone does not underbuild a shelf and have a failure.
" How much compressive strength? It depends a lot on length. If short, say two-feet or less, a 2x4 can hold approximately 4,500 lbs. — over two tons. If long, however, the story changes dramatically. That same 2x4, six feet long, can hold only 900 lbs."
The same way I build shop shelves, I can climb up them fully loaded and no creaks and I feel safe as a 6 ft 195 lb person in climbing up. You ought to put one more on the tops of the uprights which will cap the uprights and give you a high shelf for lighter items you rarely use. Only difference it I had some boxes of carriage bolts and bolted the uprights to the cross members, otherwise deck and drywall screws
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ytregguy1 1 month ago
very simple and great design. dont mind all the people that want to act like they know everything.
maximum shelf space with least wasted space
2Nyce4dagame 1 month ago
I like the reinforcement. Had no idea a 2x4 would take 20 tons of weight. WOW. Nice vid…
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blinko656 1 month ago
Simple and easy shelves...great job on explaining your work. Noticed the AMWAY 55 gal drum. If you still using this product and need some more give me a call: 919-398-0011 Ken
diamondkenkim 2 months ago
Wish you were here to build me some.. awesome job!
snaps81625 2 months ago
i like this guy. straight talk express.
epignosis567 4 months ago
I agree nails are stronger and for some joints the second screw is a nail ,lol "However for Assembling screws are easier in most cases than nailing .
Also keep in mind I used liquid nail glue gun for each joint .After a couple months you can back out the screws an reuse on another project ! (I'm kidding ,but we tried removing a shelve by removing screws and almost had to saw it off to remove !
Mackiebrat 5 months ago
You should have used nails for this type of construction. I know everybody thinks screws are always stronger, but that's not the case. I used to think that too. What you build it pretty strong anyway, but nails would have been stronger. Hard to believe right? Nails resist shear (sideways force) screws resist pulling (vertical) with enough weight, the heads will tear and the shelves will fall. Its still strong enough for most uses anyway.
heartm8 5 months ago
Yeah, but how many will it sleep?
Maxid1 5 months ago
There is a much simpler shelving system to install that can fufill the exact same purpose. All of the shelves and brackets are constructed with solid oak and they only require a level and screwdriver to install. Best of all they require no studs for installation so you can place your shelves anywhere upon your wall. Search 'Wooden You Shelving'
WYShelving 6 months ago
I layed the 2X4 cross braces flat for a reason .To make more room for 'stuff'' ,lol That's what shelves are for......;stuff'...and the short distance really makes little difference in strength.
Mackiebrat 7 months ago
Your 2x4s on the inside frame would be stronger if they were flipped outdated in stead of being flat.
2kargarage1 7 months ago
Grins ..try a straight down pressure on 4 screws on the end like you see ....and tell me what lbs it took to sheer it ...remember each joint has 'liquid nail ' in it also....you almost can't TEAR those joints apart...we have tried later to remove one or two shelves ?....omg almost have to cut the wood !!
Mackiebrat 8 months ago
I don't think drywall screws have a lot of sheer strength. they are brittle. But probable fine for your application.
manholewisdom 8 months ago
@manholewisdom Your right drywall screws have horrid sheer strength near the head especially.
YiuTeub 7 months ago
This is wonderful. I want to try to make one for our basement. I'd like to put door fronts on for my two younger boys, who are very destructive. Any ideas on easy doors? :-) Maybe another video! Well, thanks for sharing.
alohachristine 8 months ago
Back to candi grrl ..noooo.....i'm still Glen ,lol
Mackiebrat 9 months ago
your voice sounds familiar.your name would'nt happen to be don would it?
candigirl1970 9 months ago
The comment I made about the 20 ton crushablity of a pine 2X4 was for the upright supports only not the actual shelves. Many times I've seen way too much wood used in upright support of benches and shelves and actually not enough thought into proper support to prevent sag. It's a space utilization thing.Think how much weight (what is going on shelf) Think about the size of the objects.Think Ease of use (not too many uprights or doors in the way) Not too deep (where things on shelf can hide ) :)
Mackiebrat 11 months ago
This shelf set is anchored to wall through the backside upright 2X4. They were first put in place then shelves are install one at a time from bottom up. I will be posting Vids of how this is done
Mackiebrat 11 months ago
IsGreat and simple, very nice, but would not consider anchoring to a wall? I would be somewhat concerned of toppling on me....
keepercoach 11 months ago
I would have the larger gap on the bottom. Usually those items are heavier. Plust you save on wood not using a bottom shelf you use the ground. Plus when there are not items placed you have the extra floor space.
Jackup460 11 months ago
good job!
chrospoke 1 year ago
To the question about parking ..yes we plenty of room for cars and equipment. The foot print was very small ,actually. 16 feet X 1 foot was the actual floor space taken up. I have since moved to a new location and built more shelves on this model A set of 'free standing shelves 2 foot X 8 foot and some shelves 20 ft long by 16 inches deep .Both sets are 8 foot high. Video later ,lol
Mackiebrat 1 year ago
The pine 2x4 is probably the most versatile building product out there. Very cost-effective. The recycled OSB (oriented strand board) is a great deal, too. It's almost as good as plywood but it's soooo much less expensive. And, it doesn't warp after getting wet.
PutSome5tankOnIt 1 year ago
Can you still park your cars in the garage after building this??
ccpyue 1 year ago
I enjoyed building these ,and I know I'm not precise wood worker ,lol ....show me some of yer work mxusa ....maybe I could learn ? smiles
Mackiebrat 1 year ago
Really looks like an amateur built those, you need to learn how to use a saw!
mxusa8383 1 year ago
The Reason I went flat with the cross bracing is to maximise the room under each shelf , Those cross braces are only 9 inches long . 2X the width of the 2X4 uprights plus 9 inches equals a 12 inch wide shelf , Those cross braces flat will hold anything the material used for actual shelving can hold. I appreciate all the fine comments. I never dreamed i'd get this many hits on this particular video
Mackiebrat 1 year ago
The only thing is the cross bracing......laying flat any 2x lumber is weaker. Could have run 24" center if the 2x brace was placed standing, like the shelf supports.
But I guess for the depth of the shelves, it really doesn't matter. Gonna build a set of these in my shop.
mtownlobo 1 year ago
appreciate you posting this. Good idea.
suffolkshepherd 1 year ago
I think you are over estimating the compressive strength of a typical 2x4. (at least unbraced.) I looked this up online and this sounds more reasonable.
Posting so someone does not underbuild a shelf and have a failure.
" How much compressive strength? It depends a lot on length. If short, say two-feet or less, a 2x4 can hold approximately 4,500 lbs. — over two tons. If long, however, the story changes dramatically. That same 2x4, six feet long, can hold only 900 lbs."
Cozzmos 1 year ago
Great help..many thanks
WildmanBorneo 2 years ago
wonderful!!!!
907po 2 years ago
The same way I build shop shelves, I can climb up them fully loaded and no creaks and I feel safe as a 6 ft 195 lb person in climbing up. You ought to put one more on the tops of the uprights which will cap the uprights and give you a high shelf for lighter items you rarely use. Only difference it I had some boxes of carriage bolts and bolted the uprights to the cross members, otherwise deck and drywall screws
rhblakeman 2 years ago
Informative and helpful. Thank you.
Jlongtors0 2 years ago