The Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars -- Part Two

[vivikification]

THERE USED TO BE LIFE IN MARS BUT SOMEONE OR SOMETHING DESTROYED IT WITH ELECTRICAL WEAPONS! THATS THE TRUTH THAT THEY ARE DENYING FROM US!!

[nodice4me]

glad I found electric universe months before comet lovejoy.Iceball comets are completely debunked. Which makes the electric sun the only reasonable explanation for comet tails. If the sun is electric, then probably most stars are. Now I find this. No more "we dont know how that formed? " bunk. BTW, we just got a spiral galaxy pattern on an anode plate we just pulled out of our ion gun here at work. G is dying fast,beginning to think G is just a small byproduct of EM ?

[RICKYRASPER]

The effects shown on the surface of Mars ond on the CRT screen can commonly be found on nodules of flint!

[TheInternalKillerXx]

@RICKYRASPER which create sparks when rubbed! hmm, that got me thinking!

[Ben19905141]

This is so much cooler than gravity!

[ThunderboltsProject]

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[AmazedCactus]

Those stunning images of laboratary discharge really stand out for me, the images of the alleged particle impacts from CERN look the same, maybe the guys at CERN don't understand what they are looking at.

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[wavepsychic]

OMG! That was so amazing!? Now if you want to laugh your ass off click on the status quo video called giant impact on Mars.

[KarbineKyle]

@ThunderboltsProject AWESOME! Thanks A LOT for uploading these! I'm favoriting these! The Solar System was a much different, and much more violent place than it is now, and the Universe is always changing in very interesting ways! That's what makes exploration so interesting! There's always something to be found and to be explored!

[swrtwo]

Has anyone noticed that the Grand Canyon looks like a plasma scar?

[stringsandwhistles]

I find the electric universe hypothesis and the evidence provided to support it (the surface of Mars, the super-hot corona of the sun etc.) compelling. BUT---where is it all coming from? What, ultimately, is the actual SOURCE of this energy that seems to be apparent throughout space? If stars are more like giant plasma light bulbs, where is the power to drive them coming from? It would be refreshing to see this addressed!!!

[Elhardt]

@stringsandwhistles Regarding the electric universe. Velikovsky in his 1950's book "Worlds in Collision" related things like Greek mythology to actual celestial events. So when Venus throws a thunderbolt at Mars, it literally means that Venus came close to Mars and there were electrical arcs between the two. And now decades later we are seeing evidence of this. So this may be evidence of rogue planetary bodies coming into close contact with each other, which is why we don't see it happening now

[stringsandwhistles]

@Elhardt Yes, I understand Velikovsky's ideas and can accept a number of the explanations offered by the electric universe theory for everything from features on the Martian surface, to comet behaviour, to why the sun's corona is so much hotter than its surface. That's not the point. The question is: where is all the energy actually coming from??? if a star is a plasma discharge bulb, where is the source of the electrical power? Electrical forces explain a lot, but what is the energy SOURCE?

[Elhardt]

@stringsandwhistles Well you've kind of moved on to stars and plasma as opposed to planets and electricity, so I don't really know how it applies. But aren't all planets and stars big electrically charged bodies with magnetic fields? Like a spinning magnet and coil, they generate their own energy, if that's what you're asking about. But I'm no expert on that subject though.

[stilettosandshades]

Don't you think that the fractal patterns in the beginning of this video can be described by natural means? I mean, we can see the very same fractal patterns on earths ridges and mountains. It's called 'self-similarity.' It is a natural pattern that occurs everywhere. Not only in lightning, but in streams, trees, our blood vessels. So, mars surface ridges is exaclty what we should expect to see with wind and other erosion. Other than that misrepresentation, good vid...

[Enceladus324]

@stilettosandshades it's understandable that folks might imagine dendritic ridges formed by erosion. But it does not happen. Erosion does not create dendritic ridges unless the ridges already existed and were simply exposed by erosion. Hence, the ancient dendritic ridge systems on Earth can only underscore the profound electrical history of our own planet. Dendritic RAVINES can indeed be created by erosion. But never dendritic ridges. Only electric discharge can do that.

[TheGeneralOfWar]

@stilettosandshades

Ok but what about the metal balls then? Your forgetting that is evidence that has nothing to do with fractals and all to do with electricity.

[mammulzOG]

can everyone remember we have not landed man on mars yet, we have not been there, with the new age of space exploration on the horizon soon public and private funded companies with agendas that are non-political will land on the moon and further, then we have real answers to the questions asked. as it is until then this can only be classed as a hypothesis and not hard solid fact. there is nothing to say that on mars geology worked differently to how it did here on earth

[Enceladus324]

@mammulzOG don't you think that your statement is a bit extreme? All of the images of the martian surface shown in this series, and all of the experimental work with electric discharge as shown here constitute a foundation of solid fact. As I see it, the viewers of this series are having no difficulty drawing reasonable conclusions from the factual material presented. Have you seen any misstatements of fact in this series?

[MrAllAndNothing]

Looks like humans understanding is leaving the "dark night" of understanding that everything is just hard matter and "emptiness" and is moving towards the understanding that everything is swimming in a sea of energi. I guess soon we see the light!

[mushroomevolution]

uhhhhh, i ve seen these formations before in earth, created by rain and erosion over time, lightenign is a possibility but from this evidence i have seen here there r other possibilitites and shoudl nto be demissed

[Enceladus324]

@mushroomevolution while fluid flow across an irregular landscape naturally produces dendritic ravine networks, a much different influence is required to produce dendritic ridges. We're not talking about the "fishbone" effect that erosion can create along ridges. The dendritic (fibonacci) branching is a much different phenomenon. Of course we do see anciently created dendritic ridge system on earth, and that itself must hold a profound message for us. A story yet to be explored.

[wailingwarfare]

@mushroomevolution

Absolutely, Indeed Mars might have been a VERY different place millions of years ago, just as any of the planets in our solar system... It looks dead, but the truth might bewilder many of us.

[Oiehbrequedeboi]

listed as "Favorite", wonderful work on this subject. Thank you for sharing!

Best regards from Brazil.

[TheMG1944]

Fascinating! ...confirming that planets do indeed attract and project energies ...and they have an effect on us! The physical and mystical sciences begin to agree more and more... fine work, sir.

[EltonJThe]

The Universe is certain to disobey our educators' theories about it. So far, this video has not met two people's expectations.

As our knowledge of the universe grows, we come to an electrical model of the universe, and Zero Point Energy (not Dark Energy) fits nicely in this model.

[antonzewa]

Great video. Well done.

[luxeden]

Maybe serious solar flares could cause these electrical scars on our planet ! who knows?

[bonzerbrother]

Science probably didn't give the surface of Mars much attention because it was probably overlooked as erosion (wind)? Thought Revolution indeed. It's good to see we've come far from the days of when the earth was flat

[iHomeSchoolNews]

Thanks to 'Thunderbolts Project' a real revolution is at hand.

[euromarty]

Bravo Thunderbolts! Yet again an inspired vision; making sense of what's in front of our eyes. Keep up the terrific work, being the cusp of new thinking. Essential viewing indeed!

[USA999983]

The universe is certainly nothing like how our educators have painted it - either on purpose or ignorance.

[TheSOLAR8]

global destruction on mars by electric discharges and blood rain. only the revelation apocalypse reveals the secret...doomsday on mars...doomsday

[ytjhaas40]

With the plasma phenomena before our eyes we finally can built up more understanding of the vocabulary, like z-pinch, Birkeland current, e.m. duality, etc.

And slowly learn to add new 'prisma's' in our glasses while enjoying Space images, like bead-rings, jet's, egg's, torus, cathode and anode plasma processes, etc.

Takes time to carve in our own universe of thought. Which is not so open as we tend to think.

Very, very beautiful productions. Thank you!

[mon2nika]

Finally some idea I can agree with that is worthy of my time. To many scientists lose sight of reality by equating equations. thanx for posting this.

[Masta420]

Excellent, a few of those pictures are worth a thousand Big Bang abstract mathematical equations, at least.

Can't wait for the next installment, which I am hoping will be about Saturn. :)

[Pianoman8]

These are erosion features on mars, not eletrical scaring

[aslanmaskadov]

@Pianoman8 eroded by what?

[Enceladus324]

@Pianoman8 this is the kind of ideological presumption that has well qualified electrical theorists rolling their eyes. What is the value of merely repeating assumptions when these assumptions are simply and definitively refuted by facts now in hand? Did you watch the video segment?

[rjhuntington]

@Pianoman8 Erosion is not characterized by such sharp edges and sharp relief, much less have the exact appearance of electrical discharge arcing patterns.

[PersianPaladin]

Groundbreaking.

[mojomike]

This is the Occam's Razor to so many of Richard Hoagland's fantasies of ancient Martian civilizations.

[ronintattooer]

Is it? These experiments were conducted in Earth's atmosphere. To have the same effects on Mars, you need a similar atmosphere (Jupiter, Saturn, and Venus are a different story), or at the very least a much thicker one than Mars has now. An Earth-like Mars could have existed before this hypothetical electrical catastrophe, and the evidence of sedimentary layering in martian geography supports this. You are jumping to conclusions, which Occam would not have approved of.

[Enceladus324]

@ronintattooer there is little reason to believe that atmospheric differences have a major effect on the surface effects of electric discharge. A diffuse plasma, however, will be more favorable to the geometries of the discharge arriving at the surface. This is why the upper atmospheric aurora offers a better sense of the arriving cylindrical currents on Mars than the undulating lower-atmospheric displays. But your suggestion of a thicker martian atmosphere in the past is a worthy one.

[ronintattooer]

@Enceladus324 Sorry, my comments were aimed at mojomike; I am not implying that you are trying to discredit anybody. I think the larger question here is, what nearby celestial body could have caused this sort of destruction?

[EltonJThe]

@ronintattooer Venus.

[ronintattooer]

@EltonJThe I have read Velikovsky's books. Had Venus been originally a part of Jupiter, it would have the same direction of rotation, which is does not (it is retrograde). We would also expect a high ellipticity in its orbit, which it does not have (it has the most circular orbit of all the planets). Lastly, its velocity upon leaving Jupiter would have been necessarily greater than the escape velocity from the sun's gravitational field, making capture impossible.

[EltonJThe]

@ronintattooer Venus is originally a part of Saturn, like Mars and Earth were. Earth, Mars, and Venus were constructed inside Saturn. 

[ronintattooer]

@EltonJThe You mean, of course, theoretically...I admit I have not read any of Talbott's work. I will have to pick up a copy of 'The Saturn Myth' to get a better understanding. I am a big fan of Tom VanFlandern's ideas (Meta Research website). It is unfortunate he is no longer with us.

[stonyclaws]

Plasma Cosmology is the future!

[Liozeris]

I am a common workingman who has worked for days and months working an electric arc with various cutting / welding process.

Thanks for posting this outstanding presentation. This video will go far in the process of reforming modern planetary and space science.

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[philipjhill]

@Liozeris It would be great to see some lab results of electric arc welding effects and to compare them with the structures seen on Mars.

[TheBadAsstronomer]

Brilliant video. Brilliant presentation. I'm sold.

[0siander]

Enlightening! Brilliant work. Thank you. Os

[soupdragon42]

It's great to see real science making a come back! This empirical approach (without all the meaningless abstract math) is providing sensible and verifiable explanations for many of the so-called mysteries of our solar system. Great work!

[styx369]

@mrShaziman I just read an interesting report on the data interpretation by the WMAP team, casting considerable doubt on the claims made, namely a smooth microwave background, which is used today to prop up the Big Bang/expanding universe theory ... google "Pierre Marie Robitaille - WMAP: A Radiological Analysis

[tom4doz]

The electrical/ plasma discharge explanation for surface scarring and cratering on planetary bodies seems obvious and 'credible' now as opposed to the much troubled gravity related theories that are now in great trouble and seen as 'not credible'.

[redhammer42]

Very Interesting!

[ubergeraldine]

Brilliant. I have an understanding of the Universe which actually works. The evidence is astounding. All power to Thunderbolts Project.

[livnthadream25]

GREAT VIDEO! I noticed the only tag on this video is "episode" We feel you should put more tag words to increase broader search results. For example Mars, Electric Universe, Dave Talbot, Lightning....ect. Anyways keep up the great work and I look forwards to future projects!

[styx369]

great presentation ... does make you wonder whether the gravity dominated Universe is the correct theory. A+

[MrShaziman]

@styx369 After seeing the website, I now harbor serious doubts on the 'primarily gravity' model of the universe. For me, it looks like the 'electric' model is the correct one. So much they tell us is happening in space because of electricity and they can reproduce the same things in labs here, so we have very good confirmation that what they are saying is correct. Gravity based is all 'math' which (as Tesla says) may bear no relation to reality at all. I think Science has taken a wrong turn here

[garrymaxfield888]

Geologists need to look closely at Mars to understand what exactly happened on Earth. Planetary scientists need to look at observed results not assumptions based on Earth's geology.

[spidar1919]

This is fascinating, thank you so much! The blueberries were amazing, mystery solved. Come on astronomers, get your head out of your ass. The Electric Universe theory makes much more sense than what is currently being taught in our so called schools! David Talbott and everyone at the Thunderbolts project , you are my heroes.....keep up the great work!

[davesmithau]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the sense in what is presented in this video. Such compelling material can only be ignored by those who choose to bury their heads in the sand. Everyone else will see major changes in the sciences on the horizon.

[ThunderboltsProject]

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[0rthogonal]

@ThunderboltsProject Why are there so few tags on this video? It may help drive views to have a broader range of general tags on the subject.

[0rthogonal]

@ThunderboltsProject Why are there so few tags on this video? It may help drive views to give a broader range of generic terms regarding the subject.

[gammabun]

@ThunderboltsProject is hudson bay a similar electrical formation? on earth what are good examples of plasmic exchanges between the planets? except maybe mountains

are the blueberries concentrated balls of iron, would such discharges concentrate (precious) metals of the soil?

[rjhuntington]

@gammabun The Grand Canyon exhibits dendritic branching exactly as described. Look at the Grand Canyon with Google Earth and it's easy to see the patterns.

[swrtwo]

@ThunderboltsProject Has anyone noticed that the Grand Canyon looks like a plasma scar?

[0tedaCecapS]

Thank you

[yellowecotec]

Excellent presentation. I especially liked the part on the martian blueberries as evidence of electrical plasma interface. I think maybe it could very well be an artificial weapon that did that to mars.

[glazinq]

Brilliantly simple, makes perfect sense. Should not be long before this is standard theory.

[dcachaca51]

This is beautiful & mesmurising.......I watch it over and over. Thanks for such a clear and simple narration. This is both educational and  entertaining.

Tchau David (aged 64 yrs amateur astronomer UK living in Brasil.)

[herzogsbuick]

I cannot thank you enough for your efforts, and for putting these videos up. But, thanks anyway :-)

[14lou]

Imagine what it would been like, back when the world was flat, for someone to come along and show you why it's round. For those able to follow the evidence and "connect the dots" it would have been a staggering revelation and so it is with the Electric Universe so brilliantly presented by this video and others in the ThunderboltsProject.

We can only hope those institutional planetary "experts" can rub the sleep out of their eyes and get to work a little faster than the flat earthers did.

[jph6345789]

Benoit Madlelbrot, one of the greatest mathematicians who ever lived, left us recently. When the video refers to "Mandelbrot", it is referring to him. He was the father of chaos theory and and the father of fractal geometry. Truly a most remarkable man. Our world lost a truly brilliant star.

[0rthogonal]

Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the video and I look forward to the full DVD. It may be premature but what is the direction of the third and final installment? Saturn? The Sun?

[bluesojourn]

@0rthogonal "It may be premature but what is the direction of the third and final installment?"

Saturn. . . the one I've really been waiting for! :o)

[Ozzmor]

Thanks

So GREAT!..

[jph6345789]

Bravo!  Irrefutable evidence, as far as I am concerned, for your theory.

[saucepanbach]

ah ..... beautiful piece of work.

when will this be taught in primary schools?

thanks very much.

[aleluciap]

@saucepanbach

I was taught this kind of stuff in primary school.

Wellllllllll, it does help to be home schooled and have a dad who often shows me these kinds of movies.

[quantumawareness]

Great video! ThunderboltsProject.

I love the Electric Universe theory. It dots all the i's about the vast electrical system that is nature. On September 20, 1889 Heinrich Hertz, in a keynote address to the German Association For The Advancement of Natural Science said " The domain of electricity extends over the whole of nature." Quote from: Electric Universe by David Bodanis.

quantumawareness

[garitd]

I love this! I cant wait for the DVD!

[ETSubmariner]

Another great entry. And if the email text really does imply this is the final glimpse, I am very excited for the DVD coming out very soon!

[tetekofa]

What about the so-called "Forest" on Mars? They look exactly like the Lichtenberg figures.

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