Warping in Ableton Live 8 Part 1

[gunarsdeniskans]

awesome tut!

[MrDohmah]

Hey mate great video. just have a few questions. ive been recording guitar covers with ableton live and this "time warp" thing seems to be making my guitar parts out of sync with the master track when i recorded them in sync. its really annoying... what do i do to fix??

[medwaystudios]

@MrDohmah You might want to try turning warp off completely for those parts. If theyve been played in time correctly they wont need any warping. although usually the only way it would throw them off is if they were in a different tempo from the master but it sounds like that wouldnt be the case.

[MrDohmah]

@medwaystudios MrDohmah ok.. how do you turn off warping completely?? like.. everything... i think i already have but im not entirely sure. but anyway now everytime i open it up its out of sync. how do i fix it?

[medwaystudios]

@MrDohmah It's turned off at the clip level, there's a rectangle button that says Warp you click off. If you want to do it for everything you can select all the parts and then click them all off in one go (this should work as it does for most of the clip functions).

[sesamestreetgang]

you are so slow its fucking painful, get to the point already

[medwaystudios]

@sesamestreetgang if you dont like it dont watch it, some people prefer a slower pace.

[FMSV1P3R]

I just warped I just warped 1,2 WHOOP WHOOP!

[evanbillman]

So essentially "Warping" is the same as "beat gridding" in Traktor or Serrato... It is marking the beats so that the midi clock will fire on correct beats?

[bongoloid77]

I have everything down except the warp!!! When you re-do the markers, how do you know where to put them???? I want to match tracks and its only showing me ONE track... how do you do both??? or match samples/acapella?????

[medwaystudios]

@bongoloid77 you only work on 1 warp at a time, as long as they are both done to the grid they will line up. If you need to ref them against each other just zoom into both tracks and look at the waves there.

[manfuel]

simple and well explained :D

tnx a bunch !

[kizzykan]

You can also zoom in with the hot key shift + and zoom out with the - key. 

[bobbystips]

Just got Live 8 and I'm really not digging the warp marker system. I was so used to version 6 way! AAAAAGH!

[RapBattleNerd]

damn finally someone posts an understandeable tutorial =D.

[MrDarcyzPP]

I've looked at six fucking vids on this and no one seems to want to just tell what warping is. Like a description. It seems to be placing some sort of markers at the beginnings of beats, but there's definitely more. So why the fuck not talk about it? Stupid bunch of twats.

[medwaystudios]

@MrDarcyzPP , nope thats all it is, probably why no one else discusses it further.

[ehgrib1225]

@MrDarcyzPP

see loom warping.

[bobdlx]

@MrDarcyzPP you're an IDIOT.

[spentmoney]

@MrDarcyzPP you cant be pissed off with other people. read the help.files. and medways right.......... thats it.

thanx medway

[DirtyJ214]

@MrDarcyzPP you are retarded

[TH3xM3DIC]

@MrDarcyzPP

warping is getting a track to sync to abletons internal clock. the markers you see are markers marking when the song will play. adjusting these will determine when the song plays. its easier if you have the metronome on at the same time to get perfect warping.

ableton can automatically warp a track, but sometimes it doesnt do it right. you have to move the markers manually to get it right.

be sure to change the BPM in the track window under Seg. BPM to abletons BPM

[barbardukes]

@MrDarcyzPP

warping is very basically getting a track in time to the tempo/click of live (beatmaching your track to lives tempo)

i thought that was fairly obvious.

[kirkwylde04]

Why did you use such a harsh gate on your VO mate? It is distracting...

[medwaystudios]

@kirkwylde04 hi, partially due to this being my first every vid, also i hate hearing extra noises and things so perhaps went a bit too far on editing them out.

[FernandRaynaud]

Of all clips to record with the audio barely audible!

[CqWeAkYcAmZ]

Hey how do you actually see those waves? i can only see the notes that i play, the little red rectangles...

[Relentt2008]

it has to be an AUDIO file.. what youre playing is midi and youre seeing the midi files there wont be waves...

[CqWeAkYcAmZ]

but i've tryed making it an audio file...i dstill don't see a tab anywhere where i can see waves...SO FRUSTRATING!!

[Paladinoocara]

Man, you just need to double click the "audio clip" (either in both kinds of "view"inside of Live 8) and it will appear.

[MrDarcyzPP]

@CqWeAkYcAmZ If you really want to see waves, export it as an audio. Like a wav file. But better would be to get a sound file and use that. Midi is notes and other info for the computer to interpret. It's like a player piano roll. If you had a player piano roll, you could move things around on it and make another tune. You might even be able to put it into another player instrument. that's what midi is.

[MissingAmongPeople]

I have no idea why somebody gave you a thumbs down for this comment, it is absolutely correct so i'm gonna give you a thumbs up and even the score.

[mvonwahlde]

The little red rectangles are displayed when you are using clip view on a midi track.

You see the stuff in this tutorial when you are using clip view on an audio track.

Relentt2008 is almost right. It doesn't need to be an audio file, it needs to be an audio track.

There's no problem quantizing a MIDI file, just select the note cluster that you want and drag it where you want it.

[cjb028]

they are midi notes! MIDI not AUDIO. you dont need to warp midi. geeeez

[MissingAmongPeople]

hmmm, midi and audio are two different things mate. you don't need to concern yourself with this for midi

[Tekesaurusrex]

thx i think you saved me punching my computer

[cast390]

PT 2 ---- If this is not an option how do you manually enter in the BPM under the warp tab to match the BPM at the top left,clicking on it does nothing,and the values seem to be fixed and never matchup perfectly

[medwaystudios]

make sure you have a warp point selected first, otherwise you wont be able to enter a bpm

[cast390]

Anyone know of a way of import wav files and NOT have to deal with warping?If I import say a bass and 2 gtr tracks,from a previous ableton session they are so out of time from eachother, yet in the previous instance they lock time with the metronome.I think warping is a tedious and time consuming task especially working with long wav files.And I consider it a complete waste of time. Read Pt2

[CedricKrys]

pretty good explained, liked it but sometimes it wastes some time if you talk too long about the same thing if it isnt that informative

[spankazoid]

me didnt likey new warpy at starty but now me likey new warpy aloty.

[cast390]

How do u undo ALL in live?

[djnebulae]

kinda scary tryin the new warping i already luv how 7 is... i feel like i have to start a new style once i have 8 = (

[myspacecomokdok]

omg - they must be f****n crazy

[kuzmin909]

THANX, VERY MUCH!!!

[medwaystudios]

Depending on the music you can get away with just one in the start and one at the end. I prepared about 12 tracks today for a mix and they took about 20 seconds or so each to do. I'll do another vid to show that just in case anyone needs further explanation.

[DSmith28]

Thanks, just got version 8 and altho I'd never used Ableton 7 that much before, I was totally baffled as to how to warp a track using 8!! I found that if set a few warp markers at the begging maybe say 8 over a couple of bars, and then just go near the end of the track, and adjust its slightly with another couple of warp markers, it works no problem.....and doesnt really take that much longer than 7....I guess this however all depends on the track!! Shift is the Key tho ( no pun intended)

[oliviervk]

i hate 8 but hope to get it once

[GeoAl09]

good tutorial. yeah i dont really like the warping in ableton live 8. but i guess ill get used to it

[medwaystudios]

thanks and fair enough, I do that sometimes though as for some people the repetition helps them to allow the information to sink in more effectively.