Full Video of the new high speed trains for UK

[FlanMangler]

Anyway, my issues would be:

Serious: I hope the production version won't be 5 coaches or everyone will have the pleasure of being packed in like on all current Cross-Country services. Awful 'sardines in a crushd tin box' type feeling. Not good when you're standing up for over an hour and a half.

Less Serious: What's with the awful bogies? Can't anyubody design bogies any more? :)

[alankeenan9]

With regards to earlier comments about having to get foriegn built trains , rather than build our own . Under European law the UK must comply , and put out to tender via a bidding process , the contracts to build new trains . Plus the fact the most of the railways works left in UK are foriegn owned as well . The old BR way sadly in hindsight was actually better . But that is politics and as you know we are well f****D on that basis . Just look at the current coalition government . Oh deary me .

[mudwizard]

No business case.

No environmental case.

No money to pay for it.

Do not believe the government propaganda. Somebody will make a lot of money out of this white elephant and it will not be you the taxpayer.

[vulgarmachine2]

@mudwizard

Couldn't agree more. Plus, it's worse for the environment to source new trains and then ship them here.

I don't get why they want to replace the 225 fleet either. It's being made out that they are elderly and not very comfortable. They are neither. Being barely 20 years old. Gawd, I was on a 40 year old pacer the other week. They're not being replaced... Took 1 hour 30 to do a 40 mile journey.

[richard123x1]

rubbish train hsts are better hope it gets srcapped

[richard123x1]

rubbish train hsts are better hope it gets srcapped

[XrGrimreap3rX]

Wheels on trains are a thing of the past. They should have gone for maglev trains. They are far more efficient as they don't have wheels which causes friction and reduces speed.

[gavinnorthants]

Will these trains be Diesel or Electric. I know there was a bit of debate about the cost of installing overhead power cables.

[lborogay]

It's planned for there to be a combination of diesel, electric and hybrid types depending on where they operate on the Network and the services they cover

[richbrandy]

Really a cool vehicle. I hope the US will eventually get on the stick.

[Nosteratees]

What's wrong with buying from someone else?? True we could've made it ourselves but we'd have had to pay 5 times as much and ended up with a piece of shit as usual.

[stepheng1483]

What's wrong is it's a humiliation for Britain to get a foreign country to design and build our trains, we should've designed and built our own.

"ended up with a piece of shit as usual" Are our 125s or 225s shit? Was Mallard and Flying Scotsman shit?

[Nosteratees]

It's not a humiliation at all. I think you'd be hard-pushed to find a country in the world that doesn't buy some kind of tech from elsewhere in the world. The Japanese and French are the accepted masters of high-speed rail travel.

Sure Mallard and the Flying Scotsman were great but it's not 1938 anymore. Something that us Brits sometimes forget. We don't have a god-given right to be great at everything and railways are something we just don't do well anymore.

[stepheng1483]

We designed and built our class 91s not too long ago, and they are good.  I'm sure if we had made an effort we could've designed and built our own trains here in Britain, and it would've been something we could've been proud of.

[Nosteratees]

They're not exactly good are they. If a 500 series Japanese Shinkansen rolled into King's Cross people would think it had landed from another planet and they've been in service since the mid 90s. We're just waaayy behind because it's not something we've spent any money on.

Perhaps if we stopped wasting all our cash blowing other countries to smithereens we might have some knocking about to develop great trains and a new network but we haven't.

[MHunt1000]

@stepheng1483 The Class 91 was the eventual production version of the APT, but we don't like to talk about that!

[stepheng1483]

@MHunt1000 But you can't deny the class 91 turned out very well.

[MHunt1000]

@stepheng1483 Oh it did probably our best loco designed in the UK. 95% of the class 91 was derived from the APT experiment. I believe the Mk4 intercity coaches were even designed to be tilt capable in the future, although it's never been used.

[GeckoWithAnUzi]

So this is how it is?? This country used used to have a bloody empire! We used to be the pioneers, and we pioneered the railways in the first place. Now look - the labour government and the conservatives before them have thrown britain off a cliff, head first, and we're left grovelling to other countries for help, because we don't seem to trust ourselves. It's bloody outrageous!

[stepheng1483]

These trains should have been designed and built in Britain. It is a humiliation we are getting foreign countries to design and build our trains. It's a good job we didn't let that happen in the 20s and 30s, or we never would have had Flying Scotsman or Mallard.

[CharlieeXD]

Um, Stirlingshire, I don't think u get the point. The railways need upgrading weather u like it or not. Yes hsts will be missed but we can have them here forever can we? And it's not just the engine, it's the wheels, carriages, bogies, all stuff like that. It would be far cheaper to UPGRADE. it's more exciting that way anyway.

[monamonax]

The thing that the train was able to be delivered to Britain where the railway is cradled is proud with honor as the Japanese.

[newsdirecter]

Some people have concernd about decrease an Englishman's emplyment in britain.

but Japan's Hitachigroup have said that

"we wil build the factory to make train and

to keep train system

so I think that hitachi group will produce the Englishman's employment

therefore Dont worry about it.

[sabirdave]

BRITISH JOBS FOR FORIEGN COUNTRYS.... dnt britain have the brains to build a train no more????? we can build our own trains. this labour government dnt trust its nation talents. buld in britain

[SteamboatWilley]

@sabirdave Totally agree. We've had roughly 30 years of successive governments thinking they could base an economy on money lending, while running manufacturing into the ground, and look where that got us. We need to bring back wealth-creating industries!

[joshieboi005]

The front of it looks like somones face.

Love this train though!

[Stirlingshire43110]

ANOTHER BAD CHOICE! LET BOMBARDIER BUILD THIS! I personlay think, that in this day and age, if we - the country that invented the railways, have to ask other countries to build for us! Annother thing, over 75% of the HST fleet have been installed with MTU Engines, these could last twice as long as this piece of electric Plastic! Its done 30 years with 1 Engine, it can do annother 30 with the MTU. A POOR DECISION made by the DFT well done FOR RUINING THE RAILWAYS!

[Stirlingshire43110]

typo in this day and age, if we -

actual sohuld be its a disgrace that in this day and age

[xxlbaggy]

hybrid? does it means dual-mode?

[mcmarga]

does anybody know the class number?

[Englander83]

It's a disgrace these trains won't be built in Britain.

[scottbarclay6]

I think its great these trains will be built in Japan, Japan is the best for pioneering cutting-edge technology. It would be great if these trains ran up to Aberdeen and Inverness aswell as just the London routes. I have a Hitachi TV and it still works so if there is anything to go by I think Gordon Brown and the Labour Government are making a good purchase for these train sets and i fully support them

[Englander83]

"I have a hitachi tv and it still works". Big deal, Britain made 125s in the 70s and they still work. Gordon Brown is a traitor, Britain should build our own trains.

[konataspecial]

i agree with you scottbarclay6, its about time some REAL trains started running on our lines and Hitachi is perhaps the best company for the job, if you where to look on their other achievements in railway technology it kinda speaks for itself! after all many of the trains currently here in England are near fit to scrap! The 395 "javelin" Series trains being rolled out at Xmas here in the south east will be a glimpse of what's to come on the east cost and Great Western mainline.

[465fan]

the age has moved away from semi streamlined trains like that - and the engineering is not competititive in the UK. BREL disbanded from York - the guys were gone and never went back. bombardier cant do high speed streamlined. shame and i would love to see us buy british, but this is how it has to be for the ECML - and only the ECML. They should have ordered 375's for SWT - but they ordered german, a shame, and they should have ordered bomardier for the london midland new trains - again german :(

[svrmilloh]

if bombardier were able to build high speed trains then i would agree - but theyve managed 100mph for a 375 and thats it. They shouldnt have got this because their design was disgusting. The 395's are proof that overseas technology is the way forward in high speed travel. bombardier should step up to the plate and build a prototype high speed train and if it makes it, they should be ordered. As it is they dont have any accumen, but I doubt the order books will dry up anytime soon

[Notsodrunk87]

Will these be tilting trains? and it is dissapointing that they are foreign designed and built......then again most thing in Britain arent Brittish these days

[carlallen2007]

How I hear it the trains will not tilt, but to be fair they have been built to replace the Intercity 125 and 225 on the East Coast and Great Western lines, which are mostly straight, not like the West Coast Line.

[xjabi]

do you remember what happend last time Britain tried to make tilting trains, i don't think that's gonna happen again

[joshieboi005]

@Notsodrunk87 Moan Moan Moan. Get the fuck over it.

[newsdirecter]

what a good deisn train this is!!!