Concrete-Jet Robot

[shaemuskermiet]

Nice 3D penis printing!

[Aradian6]

We shouldn't stop advancements from happening as it's essential to keep on going forward in order to evolve, and this DOES mean cheaper, possibly even more efficient housing, a complete shift in the way the market works.

I say bring it on, I'll be happy to give it a go if it's available when I decide to buy some shelter.

[skyuoquer]

TECHNOCRACY

[MajorCaliber]

Econo-Techno point #1) Note in the animation that the lintels, beams, and roof panels are all PRE-CAST pieces, craned into place... umm, so why not just crane pre-cast wall panels into place too, instead of using the big icing squirter? i.e. a WHOLE LOT of spendy infrastructure supporting/guiding that icing squirter. It *IS* cool, but...

LEEDS: Whether the concrete gets to the site wet (ready-mix), or cured (pre-cast), you're still transporting the same mass about the same distance. Wash.

[MajorCaliber]

MACRO-scopic point: For all of human history, incl. the present, the machines and devices used to construct buildings were, MUCH SMALLER THAN THE RESULTING BUILDING itself! And that's why, from slaves and logs to steel and tower cranes, methods of building WORKED, and why this supposedly "advanced" technology is DOOMED, i.e. in order to build the Empire State Building, we first have to construct something LARGER than the Empire State Building... D'OH! Ask an Economist why this = FAIL!

[danielbluesmoke]

Cool! But you forgot one thing.. How are we supposed to get to the top floor of that building? LOL!

[MajorCaliber]

This would NOT scale up to the size of real and useful buildings. Imagine the size of such a robot!

Economically, and even time-wise, it offers no demonstrable advantage over construction methods using pre-cast concrete elements. (e.g. in both cases, you still need a proper FOUNDATION for the building--always labor and engineering intensive)

Looks like a cool field trip for 8th graders, though! ;')

[mmikkone]

@MajorCaliber The robots in the animation look kind of weird for scaling up. But I think you could put the casting head to a normal kind of concrete pump crane also and let computer operate that. Add laser positioning and you're not far away from practical use.

You're still right about the foundations. You probably couldn't build very big houses with this method (for bigger houses you would need steel also). And you need a way to inject insulation too.

[ontheotherhandx6]

@MajorCaliber there's no problem with building a contour printer of that scale, save for an unwillingness to do so. it's been estimated that a full-sized home could be built in a day's time with this technology. gone is all the excess waste from current construction practices. It is absolutely more economical in every sense of the word.

[MajorCaliber]

@ontheotherhandx6 The phrase "save for an unwillingness to do so", is an evasive way of saying "nobody is willing to risk THEIR own money, because they canNOT SEE ANY RETURN ON INVESTMENT (ROI)." i.e. if it were really economical, it would already be reality.

As for excess waste, what do you call the PRECISE, WEIGHT BEARING railroad tracks you have to construct down the sides of each new building? (And how does that work in urban centers, where you have ZERO room on each side of bldg.?)

[iwog1]

No, the more we replace human labor, the poorer we will be.

This can be easily illustrated with a gold mine. Imagine a capitalist who runs a gold mine. One day he invents a robot that can do all the work in the mine. Do you think for one moment the laid off workers will be richer, or will the mine owner take all the gold for himself?

All business functions exactly like this. The workers laid off from a car factory don't get free cars, they just get poverty.

[dawoderpfeffer]

@iwog1 correct assumption: "capitalist".

The owner gets richer, the laid off worker starve.

Now in an RBE there is no single owner, everyone owns it. Do not make the mistake of comparing that with communism, where the state owns and the elite controls. In an RBE everyone profits from the resources that the planet has and everyone owns. Labor taken over by robots BENEFITS all. The time will be over that a few control the wealth and get richer at the expense of the many.

[ForkyStick]

@iwog1 Workers are still needed to build and install that robot it in the mine and take care of the continious service it will require. More truck-drivers will be needed to take gare of the larger output from the mine, that gold will also probably be used somewhere to build things, which in turn also require some additional workers. Most of the time jobs don't dissapear, they change. Think of how big the horse care industry was a hundred years ago, now we have mechanics instead.

[TruthfulJames]

Everything but the rebar with ties. How does that get in?

[miketsiaras]

we dont need jobs! thats the point!:)

[roshanravindra]

Totally loved it....Just out of curiosity, for the last piece of the video, how do you get in?

[Failyx]

Sooner or later we will all be out of jobs. The next step in human evolution

[murrchops]

I don't see why they need a second arm to add timbers etc. I would have 2 nozzles one for concrete and one with a filler expanding foam stuff that could be removed later in that way you could put in funky staircases and lintel-less doorways and windows.

[peleus66]

hahaha nice wish! but this still never works in the reality

[henrikmk]

This could be close to a perfect way to recover from natural disasters as quickly as possible. You really want to use machinery to do that for speed and organization.

If technology like this was used in places like Haiti, the country could have recovered in a few months, giving everyone a nice and safe house to live in rather than sitting around in tents in refuge areas, reducing diseases, crime and loss of life.

You need to send the machine there, rather than 5000 people trying to "help".

[Toniedekoning]

This is Great!, but why only build conrete, have a nozzle to create plastic windows, liqued wood to create stairs, you can even 3d print a toilet.

[DigitalOSH]

@NSResponder

I am not saying that we should stop working on improving technology. What I AM saying is that your argument of 'If robots take over construction work, that frees people up for better jobs.' makes no sense at all. You guys have a high unemployment rate with a lot of very qualified people left to sit at home picking their ass. The last thing you need is more people 'freed up for better jobs'.

[kingofthebrittains]

@DigitalOSH "Jobs" is the Ruling Class' euphemism for Economic Slavery. Google "1862 Hazard Circular" & watch Zeitgeist Addendum or Zeitgeist: Moving Forward. We need a new paradigm or our species will be extinct in the next 200 yrs. The entire Market/Monetary System is based on Infinite Growth but Earth has Finite Resources which is not compatible with that Utopian paradigm. Work-for-labor is ending whether we like it or not. See "Our Technical Reality on YT for more on this. Cheers!

[kesh18]

haha stupid people have nothing to do!!!

[ligYa01]

"Jet Robot " has a great potential :-)

[Cradle2Venus]

housing starts at 3:15

[Cradle2Venus]

in the demonstrations at the beginning, the outside looks smooth but the inside looks layered. How finished is the concrete on the inside of the house? Will there be labor required to, for example, smoothen the walls before painting?

[sirdrake79]

Garbage Technology

[Migael77]

That second classical music-styled piece: Does anyone of you know who the composer is?

Thanks in advance.

[Atomraider]

Johann Strauss II - Tritsch Tratsch Polka

[Migael77]

I'm sorry, I mean the piece béfore that one...

[KuroTempest]

waiting for each layer to dry must take forever for this robot to finish.

[AndrewNCook]

Great video, and I'm an engineer myself, but every time I see something like this I think 'man, we're totally obcessed with putting people out of work!'

It's cool though, SLA meets concrete.

[NSResponder]

"we're totally obcessed with putting people out of work!'"

You say that like it's a bad thing. The more we can replace human labor with machines, the richer we can be. There's a reason why we don't need 80% of our people working on farms just to feed themselves, and that reason is capital investment in mechanization.

If robots take over construction work, that frees people up for better jobs.

-jcr

[georgemc25]

@NSResponder Venus Project!

[herpiethelovebug]

@NSResponder Or bone crushing poverty. Depends on how it goes I guess. I favor the Venus Project approach, or something like it.

[DigitalOSH]

@NSResponder Are you on drugs? Don't you think there are plenty of people 'freed up for better jobs' right now?

[NSResponder]

@DigitalOSH Want to dig ditches? Have at it. Your ignorance is not a reason why other should stop working on improving technology.

-jcr

[nbm34]

Does anyone have any idea what IT WOULD COST FOR THIS HOUSE BUILDING MACHINE. ??? anyone out there with real estimates of the cost. PLEASE BE SERIOUS about this no idiotic comments etc.

It is evident by this machune alone.THAT THE VENUS PROJECT can produce all human needs by machinesTHERE HAS NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE ENOUGH MONEY in the world to design a real scientific enviroment, under the present control of the worlds banksters and their fiat money etc. WE NEED TO MOVE INTO THE FUTURE NOW

[shapingAfuture]

@NSResponder I don't agree with you "If robots take over construction work, that frees people up for better jobs." because we are running out of jobs to give. Until now all the people that the machines replaced went in to services. But now that electronics can take that job to and now we have less and less jobs. I'm not against progress and technology i love technology. But it will be a hard future for us until technology will be so advance that we wont have to work and still live comfortably

[mdlittle5466]

@shapingAfuture Then I guess we'll just have to resort to a resource based economy and provide the basic necessities of life for everyone on the planet (...i.e. - food, clothing, water, shelter and education...). Oh the HORROR!!!

[shapingAfuture]

@mdlittle5466 Yeh I like the idea of RBE to but I'm skeptical about the fact that we will get there in my lifetime ...and i'm relatively young. Though we have to get there ... Maybe this system will fall and a similar system will come afterfrom the rubble and then the cycle begins again, but somewhere at some point people will catch on that this doesn't work so they will change ... or we will go extinct which is the other possibility as i see it. ( don't want the 2nd variation of mine :( )

[InvertedFox]

@shapingAfuture The market system is destroying itself, Its not sustainable. It has no connection to the natural world. Destruction of the environment is a logical externality in this system. Oil reserves are expected to run out in four years time and our entire civilization is based on this outdated resource... There is also the prospect of a US/China war on the horizon, what with China's economy and industry booming compared to that of the military superpower. I don't think we have long.

[InvertedFox]

@shapingAfuture "it will be a hard future for us until technology will be so advance that we wont have to work and still live comfortably" - What good is that technology if we do not have jobs and therefore the money to purchase the products that these automated factories produces? It is not technology but MONEY that is preventing this evolution into an age of sustainable abundance. We have to begin to really think and question everything that we have grown to accept... we have no other choice.

[shapingAfuture]

@InvertedFox "What good is that technology if we do not have jobs" well technology is not to have jobs .. its purported is to free from jobs and make our life comfortable .. And we do have to get rid of the idea of money .. RBE sounds a good idea as i see it

[InvertedFox]

@shapingAfuture I agree. I am saying that until we go beyond the money system the automation of labor will not help us as people will be out of work and unable to afford basic products. This is one reason why I support a RBE.

[shapingAfuture]

@InvertedFox Yeh Im happy that you think this way but are just one drop in a big ocean.

[InvertedFox]

@shapingAfuture Absolutely, we have a difficult time ahead of us. Whatever happens happens, but we should all do our best to educate the people around us and spread these ideas, as that is the only way this can happen. The ocean has to be fully conscious of the situation, or we will go on killing ourselves and the planet, business as usual.

[branza27]

@NSResponder for what better jobs?are you blind or what?

[InvertedFox]

@NSResponder There are not an infinite amount of jobs for people to do... I don't disagree with what you are saying but as long as people are forced to work to survive mechanization is going to cause problems. The money system is an obstacle. We can create abundance through mechanization but as long as their is a price tag people will not be better off. We produce ten times the food needed to feed everyone and yet 34,000 children die of starvation daily because they cannot afford food...

[AlexGraphicD1]

@NSResponder Let him live on his own misery man. If that person lived on 1900 he would think that we would never have automated machines and computers in our every day life. Ignorant people like him are holding back progress

[TheBbmoretz]

@NSResponder

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! And that is what the Venus Project is about, along with The Zeitgeist Movement.

[javierg72]

@NSResponder THE VENUS PROJECT. RESOURCED BASED ECONOMY.

[f0x1820]

muy interesante  ....pero dejaria sin trabajo a mucha gente...jajajaja

[SailorBarsoom]

For everybody asking

"what about steel reinforcing?"

"what about plumbing?"

"what about wiring?"

please note that this is a simplified video showing the basic idea. It doesn't go into details like rebar and wiring. But the people behind this are aware that houses need plumbing, and have addressed this in another video.

/watch?v=okl37F-szew

[Seiku]

Houses in some places are completely concrete.

[RZMaslic]

AWESOME!!!!

[StewiePants]

THAT IS NEAT!!!!!!!!!!

[ha1e]

excellent

[khi021]

a large scale scaffold builder concept can be practical if the cost is feasible and there are no design change or intricate designs. The last one with the wheel in the end, I don't think that works.

[henzilla27]

That's a horrible house design, where's the drainage?

[regregex]

never mind that, where's the market for brutalist concrete boxes?

[jerzkid87]

isnt this just cement not rly concrete?

[brianrosado]

this is mind blowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Freestylez]

the 3rd example really should not be following along the cement already layed, first of all it cannot preform the turns properlly it works in a 3d program but in real life on a corner the machine would fall over. The second example works perfectly, should incorperate some sort of green building protocol I mean what are these machines going to be using energy wise? Say you harness wind power or solar.

[BroskiNick]

i dont see how they would keep the cement from drying inside the tank...then again i dont know too much about construction

[mengus666]

ma......perche a forma di fava??????

[ilmerlociuccione]

ahahaha

[AlionXeer]

like to see how there going to get services into the homes

[MekazaBitrusty]

Whilst not looking prommising for Earth, perhaps for a Moon base construction? With a third the gravity, concrete made from moon dust might not slump. Not sure about the effect of vacuum on the water content. Might evaporate away too quickly.

[IdOnTLikEtHiSrAp]

its based on the fab@home search it on google

[drgatk]

the person is obviously not an engineer... cos a house is not only concrete.. wheres the water pipe line? electricity lines? and there isnt enought support in the concrete,

[RTMFilms]

wo thats so cool i mean omg and did i mention put some better music in that video the music sucks

[mispotach]

Actually, it is difficult to construct it in reality. Why? In Material Engineering, especially in Concrete Material. We know concrete will gain its strengthening min 7 days, I means we should make bekisting (box for pouring concrete) before concrete will be poured. If we don't make bekisting, Concrete will leach to land/sand easily. I'm sorry for saying this, this idea is just a spoofing, cause who ever proposed this idea was not an engineer!!!

[Gurneyo]

i see what you mean but i guess thats why the robot only makes small pots at the moment. personally i think after alot of development with the robotics itself and also some research into apropriate materials for building the houses this robot could really catch on, especially in third world countries etc. when you think about it building a house is simple enough for a robot its just a question of which materials to use and how to apply them

[usra060]

What makes you think the Third World could afford such a machine, even if it could work? Labour is cheap, machines are expensive there.

[Gurneyo]

er....what makes u think for a second i meant people from the 3rd world would be paying for this?? i was thinking WE pay for it. if there was a house building robot charity that would be awesome. building 1 machine out of charity money could build whole villages and the machine itself could provide work. personaly i think its perfect so you must be a retard ;)

[kx3clock]

@usra060 labour force requires sleep, food, breaks. Machines can go 24/7

[Eptin]

While not meant for high-end products, this might be a good way to manufacture a large amount of medium to low end goods.

[brandt19699]

WOW , A CONCRETE COCK AND BALLS!!

[h1037513]

wow ! great!

[EmettD]

some day building just maybe that much easyer

[minorio]

Usually, you need to put some steel structure in the concrete wall to reinforce it. Otherwise it falls easily.

[nickersucker]

exactly what I was thinking! Allot of flaws to works out I think. I thought that maybe this was a modular system so that you could move the then finished building to another site, but being concrete would be too heavy. Not to mention the dock crane like jig with what looks like rails. Allot of problems I think!

[elvemageown1]

Cool!

[throwcrayon]

24 i see dick o.o

[25844]

2.26... is that a toilet? 0_o

[blah11blah]

I like the fact that there are no stairs

[Thelbatrop]

@blah11blah for stairs you just give the robot another pre-crafted part to put in.

[WoD115]

the future of construction... NOW!

[chiefmojorising1]

Why did it build a shed on top of the house

[shell3504]

cool idear

[darcyfreakthomas]

Very cool idea but there is no way you could do something like that here (in New Zealand).

Without something (like rebar or wire mesh) to give it tensile strength it would probably fall down if you had an earthquake. It would also probably crack as the concrete cured (because it shrinks a bit when it does) and because of the way it is layed, you will have lots of stress risers. Especially where the head changes direction i.e., the internal walls and at the sharp corners in the last clip.

[BenStilller]

cool

[insanity54]

wow, this is tight!

[jeanmatthieuj]

jobjackers

[kjlg74]

Pretty cool!

[lenudan]

So electrical, plumbing and insulation go where?

[soylentgreenb]

Most contour crafting concepts envision prefabricated elements placed by a separate machine and mutiple nozzles for different materials.

[nomographer]

Interesting concept, but they aren't going to let you build a concrete house without using rebar. I've helped build a few concrete buildings using styrofoam block concrete forms, and I can't imagine it getting much easier than that. How do you control the slump of the concreate so well for the decorative applications. Very interesting stuff.

[1skiinIan]

yes, interestig Idea. they have to find a way to strengthen the concrete

[wolfekeeper]

Might work if they add some (steel?) fibers to hold it together. It wouldn't stop it cracking, but it would stop it falling completely to pieces and killing people.

[chiefmojorising1]

Yeah i was just thinking that.. there has to be rebar put in the middle of those concrete walls to tie them to the floor.

[thien0995]

at first I thought it was a penis

[NeoNinja7]

Im good, don't want to be living in mud huts

[timmietimmins]

leanderb91: this is computer controlled. depending on who was calling the shots, there is no reason that each house in a development couldn't be completely different from the ones beside it. Just put a different instruction set in, get a different product out.

On the downside though, this could put a LOT of skilled tradespeople out of work, and you will also notice the house designer did not put any access up to his second floor room. I personally would have gone with some stairs.

[inthefade]

haha. I was thinking rope ladder.

[KKOLL007]

Jajaja y las escaleras???

[Twodaystogo]

what about the rebarb?

[FreezingStorm]

this would save billions of dollas on houses

[LeanderB91]

only question is: who wants their house to like like everyone elses?

[FeaRMEKz]

Hey cool we can make our cities look more like concrete slabs

[0TubeInk0]

Any one want to exchange friend invites?

[jwedow]

What is the music/composer that is played during the second part of this video? Anyone know?

[VisionQuest2012]

China is eating up most of the worlds concrete. This would be way to expensive.

[r32adt3db]

awesome. more people outta work. lol.

[saveamerica1776]

kool

[AlexKasper]

Interesting concept. And it can do more, much more. Why stop at a jet pump if a robotic crane can lift entirely prefabricated blocks as well?

[puk1z]

amazing;]

[Amisthar]

if the robot plays the music of the end during the construction i kill mi self!!!

[comprehende]

looks like a penis

[lucianoayres]

even if the concrete can support all the weight, where's the hydraulic and eletrical structure?

[SailorBarsoom]

It wasn't shown in this video for time reasons, but search for other "contour crafting" videos and you'll see that they've thought of that, and rebar too.

[FusionNinjin]

you need to reimforce the concrete else it wont stand for very long and the robot would flatten the walls if it goes speedrunning whiout waiting til it hardened

[mrdandy]

A few questions the engineers might be able to answer... Don't you need re-bar inside structural concrete? Would a solid wall of unsupported cement stand under its own weight (on a structural scale the forces are much greater than for pottery). And what is proposed to feed cement to the standalone rolling robot? An interesting concept nonetheless, looking forward to seeing more info.

[805drifter]

Thank you for asking that question! I used to do concrete and you need re-bar every 1-2 feet. I've heard people have created new types of concrete that are super strong, range in different colors...maybe that's what they're thinking. I heard there is a new concrete that looks like glass.

[SailorBarsoom]

It isn't in this video, but they've got a method for including rebar.

Concrete that looks like glass? I'd be interested in seeing that.

[anyeos]

Yes but you must think about the battery (or what kind of mechanics movement will it use) of the stand alone movil robot (in the last scene).

The other idea is more possible. The last one I guess is some slow.

Anyway you need a lot of concrete (or something like that) for construct that structures.

Well, maybe I'm not very well informed.

[djpoppyt]

You could get some good industrial use out of this idea. The demands met for this to be functional on a larger scale might pay off compared to paying construction workers for their time. One problem could be maintaining such a machine (because things break down) but very interesting nonetheless.

[VatZeEll]

Coil pot houses.

[odgforlife]

What is this, a center for ANTS!?!!!

It has to be at least, three times bigger than this!

[Black2007Charger]

ROFL - Love that movie.

[chrisybwell]

Yay, zoolander! That is my favorite movie.

[odantoro]

1:55 to 2:37

Jonathon Adler, look out!

[habdude]

how do u play this thing? i cant find a "play" or "download" button...

[sovietmonkeytaco]

penis shape?

[Snoron]

So how do you get to that room on the top? :P

[mistaspot1]

This would be really great if they would use sustainable concrete and nanosolar film.

[thisbarb]

This isn't any more advanced than the normal 3D printers, this just utilizes cement :P

[mistaspot1]

That's the point. Imagine the possibilities.

[Kaity11]

That was awesome :-)

[Dead1Eagle6]

Amazing.

[dpgweb]

Esto es un gran invento, pero no es bueno para el mundo, ya que puede provocar un desmpleo enorme en la contrucción.

MANO DE OBRA HUMANA.... Y TECNOLOGÍA LA JUSTA!

;)

[cixcell]

afraid your buddies wont have any work huh?

[jeffsadowski]

On the house the star well was missing

[arlugophotog]

Why would anyone want concrete stairs INSIDE their house?

[shockratees]

well, there was no hole left that the stairs could go through. that is the problem. Even if you build wooden stair case or other materials, you need to leave a hole in the concrete floor. Just an oversight in this proof of concept.

[xxwzaebd]

Very good technology.