Hohnman break high speed camera

[L3pO1]

he almost broked his cue

[L3pO1]

he almost broked his cue

[TheStrokeofGenious]

Why does this have more dislikes than likes? This is incredible to be able to analyze Hohmann's break in slow motion. I remember watching this actual match, IPT against Marlon Manalo.

[ProdigyKimXP]

Why do ppl thumbs down this vid? To me it's a privilege to watch nearly perfect break form in slow motion. There's alot to learn from this.

[dougiepoolable]

ma mate shat himself whn he tryed this don th pool halls XD XD!!!!

[nitsuj1980]

Look at the arch on the shaft!

[SuperPekka]

It's just a fucking game -.- just hit the balls, drink some beer and have a blast. Taking it seriously ruins the fun.

[TheIshter]

Taking it seriously makes it an art.

[SuperPekka]

Calling it art is like calling it a sport: Worthy of a lulz.

It's great fun to play, no doubt there. Requires a shitload of skill too. But it's not an art nor a sport, it's just something you do over a few beers, like playing cards :D

[TheIshter]

I don't play over a few beers or cigarettes. It's like a puzzle, something to be solved. Formal atmosphere.

Even just the stroke and followthrough on the break shot is an art itself. There are so many minute details in its working. Not caring about it and ignoring it doesn't make it not art.

"lulz"

Get that shit back in its place please. It was tolerable when I was browsing 5 years ago, but fuck. Every person overuses the shit. Just like what happened to YouTube. I liked it 3 years ago.

[SuperPekka]

Ah, so you're the elitist kind who likes things that are unpopular but hates them once they're popular.

I guess for each his own. For me billiards is nothing but something fun to play with friends over a few beers. What I was originally aiming at (albeit in a tad harsh manner) is that taking games like this too seriously can ruin the fun of it.

If it's only fun for you if taken seriously then I guess I was wrong to begin with.

It's still not an art though :p

[lakunas23]

Calling it not a sport is pretty ignorant. In serious matches you walk about 10 miles around the table and top players are mostly in top fitness shape. I compete and keep fit for it. It does resemble chess, but no way you see a chess player work out for it. People who ''play'' with a few beers of course can't treat it like a sport.

Taking it seriously doesn't ruin the fun in it for me. And it is an art, watch Efren Reyes or trickshot pros for example and try saying that again:)

[dudewithpool]

idiotic response. Pool might be a bargame in your perception of it. But there are people that make this a sport, by working out, before going to practise. Making exercises and patternplay that any given athlete like say a footballer, would have to do in his sport. If u call this a bar-game, you're merely talking about the game as you've been brought up to think of it. Sure the game started with being a bar sport. Alot of sports started out in less professional atmospheres.

[SuperPekka]

Well that's your opinion. In my opinion things like golf, curling or billiards aren't sports. I don't know what they are but not sports, more like... Well something else.

I'm not saying that they aren't fun or require a lot of a skill, however, and last time I played billiards was yesterday actually (despite all the things I've said I do play a lot).

I do sports like soccer and hockey a lot, and when I need a break I go bowling or play billiards. For me, it's just not the same.

[SnareBuff]

Judging from your responses I'm going to assume that games that are not physical and high-octane such as soccer, football, hockey, etc., are not considered sports in your eyes. Perhaps all these other so-called "sports" as mentioned in the previous sentence are nothing more than leisurely activities as well. Sports really are nothing more than old games designed for leisure and activity and turned into professionally sanctioned events.

[SnareBuff]

Those who scoff a sport and label it as not a sport are usually the ones who view it as inferior compared to their definition of a sport. For example, someone says billiards in any form is not a sport, but football is a real sport.

Most people say things such as golf, curling, and billiards are not sports because they can't admit the people who play them aren't equal as sportsmen to them. I'm not accusing you of feeling that, but it's not an uncommon happening.

[SuperPekka]

@SnareBuff Sounds reasonable. And I do think that people who play billiards aren't equal to, say, hockey players, as sportsmen. Not even close. A fat bloke with a good set of hands and brains would be able to compete in billiards, or so I think at least. Put a fat bloke in a hockey rink and he'd pass out after two minutes on the ice.

I think chess is comparable to billiards: It's not exactly a sport, but it does require talent and years of practicing to become good at.

[ProdigyKimXP]

@SuperPekka Jeaneatte Lee said something like: Y cant Michael Jordan make a free throw every time? He can make shots when ppl r rushing all around him but y does he miss free throws? Its the same shot every time! Its cause u have every moment to doubt urself, get nervous, and choke. For pool players, every shot is a free throw. If u consider a sport a game where ur panting and out of breath, pool isnt a sport. But if a sport is something that requires immense concentration, skill, etc etc....

[SuperPekka]

@ProdigyKimXP Chess requires immense concentration, skill, etc, but I wouldn't consider it a sport. A sport is a combination of physical prowess, skill and hard work. I can't describe it better than that. If you compare the physicality in hockey to that of billiards... well billiards is not exactly on the same level is it?

Billiards is more of like chess and less like a sport. That being said, I can appreciate the skill and hard work that billiards requires. It's just not a sport for me.

[ProdigyKimXP]

@SuperPekka OK. You think a sport has to be physical. That's cool. We all have our opinions. I was just sharing mine. Best.

[SuperPekka]

@ProdigyKimXP True that. Cheers.

[Solartje]

ps check the angle of his arm as soon as the break starts. its at 90° from start to finish. He uses his shoulder muscle wich is much more powerfull then the biscepts. Also his body movement, hip twisting + weight shifting, shows clearly that he uses his body to put the weight in the stroke. his timing is perfect! the only thing that i dont like, is he slaming his cue on the rail in the vertical down movement.... poor table, poor cue

[cashmoney0jk]

@Solartje u dont know shit fagget

fuk u learn more

[SadegoGG]

@Solartje

I'd be willing he uses his torso to generate the movement and everything else is completely subconscious. If you watch closely you can see his torso leads every single movement in the stroke. Everything else is an effect of his desire for his torso to move forward.

[boegybangerboy]

@Solartje i think slamming his cue downwards would be unnecessary and something he would be able to control, and either way he doesn't appear to do so in this clip?

[Solartje]

its the best way to get power (or speed in this case) without losing accuracy . It alows you to slowly and accuratly increase speed without your tip moving forward. After the vertical movement, you can still keep your cue level (the butt of the cue is on the rail at impact) and folow through correctly. Simply stated it gives you double the time to reach to max speed, compared to a purely horizontal stroke. The more time you get, the less jurky the movement is. This break is a piece of art

[pcdoctorjosh]

oh and the bending of the cue stick is not necessary.

[pcdoctorjosh]

I disagree with his brake... As you can see he lifts the back of his cue up and then back down. If you are learning how to brake hard try to keep your cue more level, especially when your cue ball is cumming off the table when you brake hard. Oh and use your body and a good follow through.

[Mrphilharmonic]

Just proves the wisdom in using a special 'break' cue! I wonder if Thorsten has ever snapped any? That's some degree of bend!

[djpstacked]

He now uses a Lucasi Hybrid

[neotronicalable]

Does any1 know what cue he uses?

[iannie007]

Hohmann's break is more of a controlled break than a power break compared to guys like De Luna, Nevel, Hillbilly, Archer etc. See how close his bridge is to the cb.

[trueblu8]

Man this guy is good! Thanks for the slo-mo Solartje.

[naughttube]

this isn't high speed...look at the poor quality

[cookiesaint]

wicked, his cue bends like hell

[Morrissey42]

his name is actually Hohmann.....

[dlconcepts]

always use your own cue to break, just not your shooting cue. Its called a "break cue" for a reason.

[OsirisGOLAD]

Think of this: If this is slowed down that much, how fast does he get up? Even more amazing than how much his cue flexes ^^

[Solartje]

well this video is purely ment for those who like to understand the power break technique. dont worry about the balls, if you get the technique right, the balls will spread! :)

[Evan12345678]

you shoot geet a shot of the balls disperseing in slow mo

[Solartje]

its a slowed down version of a slow motion. if u would speed it up to natural speed, u would get alot of more frames then 30 fps... so its kinda a high speed camera :p

[F1TZB0B]

its not high speed camera...its jst slowed down...not slow motion but slowed down

[hjl0240]

wtf... never use your own cue to break