Люди красивые-это плюс, но когда смотришь сейчас по You Tube после Паши Грищук и Жени Платова Нагано-98, то стоит признать, что скорость снизилась в 2,2 раза, а также пластика и артистизм.
@denkrig Вероятность в этом есть! Но согласитесь и музыка здесь не скоростная,а шаговая и две части они выполняют шаги на одной ноге,разве раньше так катались? А уж твизлы не представляю,как сделали бы под Мемориал Г-П)))набор обязательных элементов сейчас делает танец не летящим,а синхронным))смотрю Букина-Бессемьянову и постановка Кармен-больше нравится,а вот характер Кармен,как сказала М.Плесецкая-"лучше всех у Танечки"!!!
@dc19921000 yeah, well maybe you can show us a better performance? since this is doesn't seem difficult to you. Or maybe show the other teams' performances....we'll see how difficult their skating is...
Браво Татяна и Роман!!! Удивительная и талантливая пара, которая так своевременно появилась в стране и держалась на олимпе после ухода не менее замечательного дуэта Натальи Бестемьяновой и Андрея Букина! И правильно тут в коменте Борис Головин говорит! Не добавить, не убавить!
It's as though NBC went out of their way to shoot this from the worst possible angles. And Tracy Wilson's commentary is the snidest, b!tchiest I've ever heard her. Really unsportsmanlike, imo.
Ravishing beauty, bravado and sensuality! This was glorious and they fully deserved their gold medal. The only team that should have been on the podium because the Bulgarians should have won silver and the Germans bronze. The Lithuanians had an unfortunate fall in OD or else a medal for them would have been justified as well.
@Sputnik150685 My comment is not stupid! The best Carmen in ice dancing is dance of Krylova and Ovsyannikov in 1998- Nagano. You can watch it in you tube! Here in Olympics 2006 I have never seen Russia in ice dancing so so so boring.Russia lost in ice dancing 2010 in Vancouver because such sort of pair like Navka and Kostomarov became Olympic champions!
@Marta28083 Ok the dance of Krylova and Ovsyannikov is great, but it makes this performance not bad. The acting and the flexibility of navka is amazing, the interpretation and timing is excellent and every element is level 4 (except the CCiSt).
@Sputnik150685 OK, the art is always subjective! In my opinion this dance is just skating and good technics but for me no magic ! Just compare Angelika with Navka! Look at the face of Angelika when she`s dancing on the ice. It is not only flexibility! But in Nagano there were Grishuk and Platov. Just Navka and Kostomarov had a great chance!
They are the best, perfect technique, great difficulty, and above all great artists. They are the most elegant, and have the best performance. His personality is overwhelming, from their expressions, their movements to their locker room.
Vancouver's champions are not even close, although they were the best in that competition, which gave them high marks was for favoritism as with Lysacek. Even flamenco Belmin and August 2006 was higher than that of Canadians.
Their ice-skating technique is Superior even now! It's explanation of rhythms, music structure and the elements within music, even physical motions of dancing in relation to the rhythm patterns & structure on ice.
They skate with incredible & unbeatable passion, which was greatly missed on this Olympic.
If sombody doesn't agree with my opinion, well... it is too bad.
Tatiana Navka and Roman Kostomarov are my favourite and I love them for skating with unforgettable PASSION on the ice!
because music is such an underlying factor. Carmen is one of the most overused pieces in ice dancing just because it's so uplifting. people would be willing to see a mouse chase its tail to Carmen. Everyone's saying that these skaters are dancing with so much emotion, but I only hear emotional music.
@ImNotThere100 You hear emotional music and you are influenced by it, by your own admission. That does not however mean that everyone in the world is like you and is blinded by only what they hear. Some can judge brilliance in form and execution without being affected by music and have expressed those opinions here. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean everyone has to think what you think. I personally think they skated brilliantly, no less so than this years champions.
@darkCheer that's a fair statement. i think i was a little annoyed by the posters who claimed that v/m had no emotion in their program, and i was trying to say that emotion doesn't have to be loud and bombastic, which i consider the "easy" route out. but it is also true that loud and bombastic skaters can do so with equal emotion.
@darkCheer but if a person can only find emotion in this program and not in a slow, quiet program like virtue/moir at vancouver, then i'm going to go out on a branch and say that yes, they are blinded by the music alone. emotion comes in all forms.
@ImNotThere100 yup agreed, good skaters can skate well in any kind of music, slow or passionate. I just had a problem with you dismissing other people's opinions and claiming it was all because of music. The champions of 2006 and 2010 both skated well and deserved their victories. But for you to start bashing these guys because others are bashing the Canadians shows you are no better than them.
You are kidding right Virtue and moir can skate to Carmen in their sleep, Navka and Kostomarov attempting Mahler`s 5th symphony they would have crashed and burned or any other ice dance team for that matter.
@seanpenn100 At least Navka/Kostomarov are an equal partnership unlike Virtue/Moir where he is carrying her every preformance. Also they do typical clinical, boring, technically good North American prefomances, the Europeans bring the drama the passion and the more interesting routines.
Carmen is overdone overused music they didn`t even earn a season`s best here, they were beaten by the Italians in the CD who hadn`t competed in like 3 years.
@seanpenn100 , well, did you forget where the Olympics 2006 were? If course the Italians will receive the highest scores. Don't tell me Lysacek was even close to gold in ...those North American Olympics in Vancouver...
I agree that Lysacek winning was debatable that`s the only discipline that i thought the judges got it wrong. But Virtue and moir would have won anywhere in the world they certainly deserved the world title two years ago in stockholm.
How idiotic. The second-best FD score of all time does not go to a "typical, boring" performance. They skated exquisitely and winningly to a sleepy piece of music. Flamboyance doesn't equate to "interesting". And you want to proof that this stuff is child's play to V/M, watch World 2009 FD. That should eliminate any doubt. Or even Meryl and Charlie's phantom of the opera, world 2010. what a very ignorant statement.
I have seen these North American Snoozefests and of course the whole system of scoring suits them now and puts all the interesting routines from Europe at a disadvantage, the French, Italians and Russians all bring drama and uniqueness and something edgy and different and those two females are not up to the standard of the European females. Delobel, Domnina, Khokhlova, Faeila are all stars and bring attitude and a presence to the ice that Meryl and Tessa don't.
blame the scoring, of course. just like the russian and italian couples did when they lost. M/V and W/D are blowing a fresh breeze into what was considered a declining sport. The garish costumes, false melodrama. They're bringing this sport back to the roots of dancing. and if you listen to any professional commentator (don't just take my word!) you'll understand that their routines are anything but simple and easy. you probably think torvill and dean's legendary "bolero" sucks as well.
@ImNotThere100 The sport wants the North Americans to win at Ice Dance. Now they are considering abolishing the CD which of course the Europeans are always better at. Domnina showed Davis and Virtue how to skate a CD in Vancouver. Also the North Americans didn't bring any interesting elements to Vancouver, everything was the same as it always was. Maybe some people like the Drama and the costumes as well as the skating. The Junior Champs are amazing and entertaining and will be on top in Sochi
@annakfan er, the north americans consistently got top marks in CD at both vancouver and worlds. if you're thinking of insulting their OD next, dont bother because V/M broke the OD world record with their flamenco at world. fact is, these teams have been judged under the same system, similar judges (mostly russian, too) and the north american teams have stirring up ice dancing. the costumes were good for awhile but v/m and d/v are taking the sport in a new direction.
@annakfan also a departure from style of veteran americans like belbin/agosto, who are more like the russians in this clip. You may PREFER the russians skating in this video (they are undeniably excellent) but its impossible to call the north americans' dances "simple" - deceptively simple, maybe. More is not always more. they skated two of the most difficult programs at vancouver, as agreed by viewers and professional skaters alike.
The russian couple were scored under the same system, so that's uh, wrong. The FD scores splits equally into two elements: technical and performance. "Performance" = the artistry/interpretation. The russian couple has a higher technical score than performance, but both D/W and V/M's performance scores were higher than the technical parts, while the Russians has higher technical than performance. So i think you need to reverse that "north americans are all technical" line a little.
Canadians and Americans of 2010 Olympics have shown good technically executed but very boring programms. I have never in my whole life seen so poor sensuality and absolutely similar elements in two pairs trained by M.Zueva- I. Shpilbalnd.
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it's rather up to your personal taste. This olympic figure skating season im my opinion has brought total disappointment. Except women contest which let us have seen breathtaking, overwhelming perfrormances of Yu-Na Kim and Mao Osada. I couldn't stop loving their graceful but very difficult sportive skating.
V-M's original dance was disastrous - no passion, no spanish grace, osteochodrosis spine attitude. But FD was good - they successfully got along with the idea.
@bolonkaladanza hilarious, considering that the primary praise for the canadians virtue and moir for the past eight years has been "fantastic maturity" by skating commentators.
That's true, but they are completely different. The Russian pair who won bronze were in the Russian tradition. But they were not nearly so good as Navka-Kostomarov.
Программа, конечно, шедевр!!! Но прокат был не самый чистый, видимо, сказалось нервное напряжение. И все равно, они-Чемпионы!!! И рядом с ними никто не стоял!
@redstarElen Those comments kind of unfriendly: " Their positions were extraordinary, Dick". Change you extraordinary name first, and then comment their positions, pervert.
if I remember well she gave birth to her daughter in 2000 (or 1999). after the birth she returned to skating with him and then they won 3 time Euros, twice Worlds and the Olys in 2006.
i love there performance at the olympics...does anyone know where the OD? it used to be onand now it is gone.. it was soo much fun to watch that one lol
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Great music and costumes, but nothing common with real Carmen, just good skating. Navka is not Carmen at all, this is not for her appearance and temperament. I even don't want to talk about him.
I tried to upload her but it's Rejected (terms of use violation) . If you need it, I could upload their OD to the swoopshare and you can download it from there.
I agree though... I thought Navka's feet could have had a better position, style, and transition, the way Klimova & Ponomarenko would have created more pleasing shapes as the lift progressed.
This is absurd. I don't mind having my comments rated as thumbs down if it's because I made some stupid, thoughtless comment. But I didn't - I was respectful and tried to make a point.
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There's some really nice moves here and a lot going on, but you can see why Torvill and Dean are still regarded as the eptiome of ice dance 25 years on. It's like these two are trying to cram in lots of ffrenetic fancy stuff at the expense of artistic impression. It doesn't hang together as a whole. Maybe that's why ice dance has no household names any more.
What are you talking about? These two were the household names in ice dance from 2004-2006.. They won almost everything, and were the big stars of ice dance.. Torvill and Dean revolutionized ice dance yes, but you cannot compare the two like that...
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Yes you can!...If you're coming from the persective of someone wanting to be engage at an emotional/entertaiment perspective. Otherwise ffair enough. however they were/are absolutley not household names. ertailnly not in the UK.
That is not a comparison to be made. Of course everyone in the UK knows who Torvill and Dean are. In Russia Navka and Kostomarov are stars just like T/D is in the UK. Figure skating fans know them both. Both teams were outstanding ice dancers of their time. :)
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Yes. I appreciate your point, but as you said yourself T and D changed the face of ice dancing, and to an extent, with the masses, figure skating (some can't tell the difference!). However that is a point in itself. What they did was equal to olga korbut with gymnastics. They took a minority sport and made the world look and want to be involved based onengagement. It was on the news and everything and as a child it made me sit up....technically your guys are fine but..Hope you get my point.
This is one of the best dances in history. Her style and class could not be challenged by anyone. Just true beauty. Although, there were some other pretty and attractive routines, nobody was even close to this one. Great job at the Olympics.
NAVKA and KOSTOMAROV-SUPER!!!
TheAzero19 1 week ago
Did he say "great move, ugly feet"? how mean is that
oona79 1 month ago
@oona79 Uncle Dick doesn't hold back!
I agree. Difficult moves but incredibly ugly positions. She was showing us her crotch in so many of the lifts or moves in the field.
Innovativeness and difficulty does not equal beautiful as was the case in this.
This is no work of art.
juaquino 3 weeks ago
@juaquino hmmm... funny, but after watching it again, i tend to agree with you in a way.
oona79 3 weeks ago
The grace itself, Navka and Kostomarov are one of the most memorable couple in Ice Dancing and for sure one of my favourite!
ChristinaRoussou 3 months ago 3
Люди красивые-это плюс, но когда смотришь сейчас по You Tube после Паши Грищук и Жени Платова Нагано-98, то стоит признать, что скорость снизилась в 2,2 раза, а также пластика и артистизм.
denkrig 3 months ago 2
@denkrig Вероятность в этом есть! Но согласитесь и музыка здесь не скоростная,а шаговая и две части они выполняют шаги на одной ноге,разве раньше так катались? А уж твизлы не представляю,как сделали бы под Мемориал Г-П)))набор обязательных элементов сейчас делает танец не летящим,а синхронным))смотрю Букина-Бессемьянову и постановка Кармен-больше нравится,а вот характер Кармен,как сказала М.Плесецкая-"лучше всех у Танечки"!!!
Tangomariya 3 months ago
@denkrig Да ,вы правы скорость снизилась так что я чуть не уснула от просмотра, а Паша и Женя просто парят над льдом, дух захватывает!!!!!!
shunshulla 3 months ago
que se llama la cancion que empieza en el 1:30 ? alguien por favor me puede ayudar?
zTeffah 4 months ago
wow wat was dat goed
pia45 6 months ago
These two are just amazing ! What a great choice of music and costumes! Great performance, great Russian School. Two thumbs up !
nc11000 6 months ago 3
Самый красивый дуэт всех времен и народов!
apelsin205 8 months ago 4
I personally never saw what was great about their skating. They didn't deserve gold in my eyes - nothing remarkable or difficult.
dc19921000 8 months ago
@dc19921000 yeah, well maybe you can show us a better performance? since this is doesn't seem difficult to you. Or maybe show the other teams' performances....we'll see how difficult their skating is...
attheendofarainbow 3 months ago
ВЕЛИКОЛЕПНАЯ ПАРА,ЛУЧШАЯ ПОСЛЕ РАЗВАЛА СОЮЗА,ЖАЛЬ ЧТО ХОРОШИЕ ТРЕНЕРА ВСЕ УЕХАЛИ И УЧАТ ИНОСТРАНЦЕВ,А НАШИ СПОРТСМЕНЫ ПОКА В ТЕНИ,
rugbyst93 9 months ago 4
Браво Татяна и Роман!!! Удивительная и талантливая пара, которая так своевременно появилась в стране и держалась на олимпе после ухода не менее замечательного дуэта Натальи Бестемьяновой и Андрея Букина! И правильно тут в коменте Борис Головин говорит! Не добавить, не убавить!
amondDina 1 year ago
Now this is ice dancing! It's this type of style and interpretation that I wish most Russians have now these days.
Junon999 1 year ago 4
AMAZING, love these two, drama, emotion, sex appeal, they have it all. Torino was great, Vancouver was a snoozefest.
annakfan 1 year ago 9
god, they're amazing!! they were a feet over anyone else!!! just russia could produce a couple like that!! greetings from italy
laszlo2014 1 year ago 4
BEST OF THE BEST!
BergenToll 1 year ago 3
It's as though NBC went out of their way to shoot this from the worst possible angles. And Tracy Wilson's commentary is the snidest, b!tchiest I've ever heard her. Really unsportsmanlike, imo.
OapostropheC 1 year ago
Великий номер, великие исполнители, никакие канадцы и американцы с последней Олимпиады рядом не стоят!
borisgolovin 1 year ago
Сотню раз видела, и не знаю сколько еще смогу любоваться!!! Classika!!!
IRINUHA 1 year ago 4
Ravishing beauty, bravado and sensuality! This was glorious and they fully deserved their gold medal. The only team that should have been on the podium because the Bulgarians should have won silver and the Germans bronze. The Lithuanians had an unfortunate fall in OD or else a medal for them would have been justified as well.
WarrenBeattySplendor 1 year ago 2
best dancers in the world
navy4girl 1 year ago
We see "Carmen" a lot, but this one had some innovative moments. Who was the choreographer? I know somebody will know this.
ja3399 1 year ago 8
@ja3399 Alexander Zhulin and Tatiana Druchinina were their choreographers.
helyszinelokfan 1 year ago 5
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berkovichharry 1 year ago
Лучше наших нет! И не было! Золотая,самая красивая пара!
gammi126 1 year ago
БРАВИССИМО!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gammi126 1 year ago
This is a great FD but I would love to see a season go by where no one skates to "Carmen"
Kevindl1985 1 year ago 2
MAGNIFIQUE!!!!
cuoylyf 1 year ago 3
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Костамаров продажная сволочь. он рекламирует лохотронскую контору "Все свои" пошел по тропам актера Андрея Соколова который рекламирует кидаловскую контору "Линия защиты"
SweetSurrenderQ 1 year ago
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Awful, awful. awful and ugly!!!!!!! And, slow, slow! Boring!!!!!
Marta28083 1 year ago
@Marta28083: what a stupid comment! show me a better presentation of carmen on ice!
Sputnik150685 1 year ago
@Sputnik150685 My comment is not stupid! The best Carmen in ice dancing is dance of Krylova and Ovsyannikov in 1998- Nagano. You can watch it in you tube! Here in Olympics 2006 I have never seen Russia in ice dancing so so so boring.Russia lost in ice dancing 2010 in Vancouver because such sort of pair like Navka and Kostomarov became Olympic champions!
Marta28083 1 year ago
@Marta28083 Ok the dance of Krylova and Ovsyannikov is great, but it makes this performance not bad. The acting and the flexibility of navka is amazing, the interpretation and timing is excellent and every element is level 4 (except the CCiSt).
Sputnik150685 1 year ago
@Sputnik150685 OK, the art is always subjective! In my opinion this dance is just skating and good technics but for me no magic ! Just compare Angelika with Navka! Look at the face of Angelika when she`s dancing on the ice. It is not only flexibility! But in Nagano there were Grishuk and Platov. Just Navka and Kostomarov had a great chance!
Marta28083 1 year ago
@Sputnik150685 PS: If this couple didn`t present Russia in Torino what place would take?
Marta28083 1 year ago
@Marta28083 ... Do not forget that they had obligatory paths because of which speed decreases! There were other requirements earlier.
Lana569 1 year ago
@Marta28083 Fuck, fuck. fuck and kiss!!!!!!! And, kiss my ass! Bitch!!!!!
Msblastexe 1 year ago
I love them!
They are the best, perfect technique, great difficulty, and above all great artists. They are the most elegant, and have the best performance. His personality is overwhelming, from their expressions, their movements to their locker room.
Vancouver's champions are not even close, although they were the best in that competition, which gave them high marks was for favoritism as with Lysacek. Even flamenco Belmin and August 2006 was higher than that of Canadians.
monicelach 1 year ago
Sending my love to them and to everybody who enjoy Tatiana Navka and Roman Kostomarov passionate ice dancing performance.
4 years later you are still The Most Enjoyable! Thank you for posting!
Tracy82025 1 year ago
Their ice-skating technique is Superior even now! It's explanation of rhythms, music structure and the elements within music, even physical motions of dancing in relation to the rhythm patterns & structure on ice.
They skate with incredible & unbeatable passion, which was greatly missed on this Olympic.
If sombody doesn't agree with my opinion, well... it is too bad.
Tatiana Navka and Roman Kostomarov are my favourite and I love them for skating with unforgettable PASSION on the ice!
Tracy82025 1 year ago 2
this is wats sometimes missing in ice dance- intensity!
Sapphira51496 1 year ago
Y ellos ¿Por qué no participaron en Vancouver?
Bepx13 1 year ago
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poladm0215 1 year ago
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poladm0215 1 year ago
Вот это супер! Жаль, что в прошлом. Обратите внимание, что они живые в отличие от нынешних китайцев-чемпионов.
vladb11 1 year ago
I have to say I like it very much.
Just superior ice skating!
This is intriguing, eyes catching yet very creative and spectacular dance!
Very well executed!
I really miss this kind of passion on this competition...
Tracy82025 1 year ago
i think you're mistaking "passion" for contrived music. People tend to substitute music for true charisma and chemistry.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
@ImNotThere100: I think you are trying to put words in people's mouths.
Where is the talk about music? You are the only one talking about music, so perhaps it is you who is so influenced by it.
darkCheer 1 year ago
because music is such an underlying factor. Carmen is one of the most overused pieces in ice dancing just because it's so uplifting. people would be willing to see a mouse chase its tail to Carmen. Everyone's saying that these skaters are dancing with so much emotion, but I only hear emotional music.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
@ImNotThere100 You hear emotional music and you are influenced by it, by your own admission. That does not however mean that everyone in the world is like you and is blinded by only what they hear. Some can judge brilliance in form and execution without being affected by music and have expressed those opinions here. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean everyone has to think what you think. I personally think they skated brilliantly, no less so than this years champions.
darkCheer 1 year ago
@darkCheer that's a fair statement. i think i was a little annoyed by the posters who claimed that v/m had no emotion in their program, and i was trying to say that emotion doesn't have to be loud and bombastic, which i consider the "easy" route out. but it is also true that loud and bombastic skaters can do so with equal emotion.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
@darkCheer but if a person can only find emotion in this program and not in a slow, quiet program like virtue/moir at vancouver, then i'm going to go out on a branch and say that yes, they are blinded by the music alone. emotion comes in all forms.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
@ImNotThere100 yup agreed, good skaters can skate well in any kind of music, slow or passionate. I just had a problem with you dismissing other people's opinions and claiming it was all because of music. The champions of 2006 and 2010 both skated well and deserved their victories. But for you to start bashing these guys because others are bashing the Canadians shows you are no better than them.
darkCheer 1 year ago
Amazing, miles better than Virtue/Moir.
annakfan 1 year ago
You are kidding right Virtue and moir can skate to Carmen in their sleep, Navka and Kostomarov attempting Mahler`s 5th symphony they would have crashed and burned or any other ice dance team for that matter.
seanpenn100 1 year ago 2
@seanpenn100 At least Navka/Kostomarov are an equal partnership unlike Virtue/Moir where he is carrying her every preformance. Also they do typical clinical, boring, technically good North American prefomances, the Europeans bring the drama the passion and the more interesting routines.
annakfan 1 year ago
Carmen is overdone overused music they didn`t even earn a season`s best here, they were beaten by the Italians in the CD who hadn`t competed in like 3 years.
seanpenn100 1 year ago 2
@seanpenn100 , well, did you forget where the Olympics 2006 were? If course the Italians will receive the highest scores. Don't tell me Lysacek was even close to gold in ...those North American Olympics in Vancouver...
Tihbialdunav 1 year ago
I agree that Lysacek winning was debatable that`s the only discipline that i thought the judges got it wrong. But Virtue and moir would have won anywhere in the world they certainly deserved the world title two years ago in stockholm.
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ImNotThere100 1 year ago
How idiotic. The second-best FD score of all time does not go to a "typical, boring" performance. They skated exquisitely and winningly to a sleepy piece of music. Flamboyance doesn't equate to "interesting". And you want to proof that this stuff is child's play to V/M, watch World 2009 FD. That should eliminate any doubt. Or even Meryl and Charlie's phantom of the opera, world 2010. what a very ignorant statement.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago 2
I have seen these North American Snoozefests and of course the whole system of scoring suits them now and puts all the interesting routines from Europe at a disadvantage, the French, Italians and Russians all bring drama and uniqueness and something edgy and different and those two females are not up to the standard of the European females. Delobel, Domnina, Khokhlova, Faeila are all stars and bring attitude and a presence to the ice that Meryl and Tessa don't.
annakfan 1 year ago
blame the scoring, of course. just like the russian and italian couples did when they lost. M/V and W/D are blowing a fresh breeze into what was considered a declining sport. The garish costumes, false melodrama. They're bringing this sport back to the roots of dancing. and if you listen to any professional commentator (don't just take my word!) you'll understand that their routines are anything but simple and easy. you probably think torvill and dean's legendary "bolero" sucks as well.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
@ImNotThere100 The sport wants the North Americans to win at Ice Dance. Now they are considering abolishing the CD which of course the Europeans are always better at. Domnina showed Davis and Virtue how to skate a CD in Vancouver. Also the North Americans didn't bring any interesting elements to Vancouver, everything was the same as it always was. Maybe some people like the Drama and the costumes as well as the skating. The Junior Champs are amazing and entertaining and will be on top in Sochi
annakfan 1 year ago
@annakfan er, the north americans consistently got top marks in CD at both vancouver and worlds. if you're thinking of insulting their OD next, dont bother because V/M broke the OD world record with their flamenco at world. fact is, these teams have been judged under the same system, similar judges (mostly russian, too) and the north american teams have stirring up ice dancing. the costumes were good for awhile but v/m and d/v are taking the sport in a new direction.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
@annakfan also a departure from style of veteran americans like belbin/agosto, who are more like the russians in this clip. You may PREFER the russians skating in this video (they are undeniably excellent) but its impossible to call the north americans' dances "simple" - deceptively simple, maybe. More is not always more. they skated two of the most difficult programs at vancouver, as agreed by viewers and professional skaters alike.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
The russian couple were scored under the same system, so that's uh, wrong. The FD scores splits equally into two elements: technical and performance. "Performance" = the artistry/interpretation. The russian couple has a higher technical score than performance, but both D/W and V/M's performance scores were higher than the technical parts, while the Russians has higher technical than performance. So i think you need to reverse that "north americans are all technical" line a little.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago
Canadians and Americans of 2010 Olympics have shown good technically executed but very boring programms. I have never in my whole life seen so poor sensuality and absolutely similar elements in two pairs trained by M.Zueva- I. Shpilbalnd.
AnitnelavCoeur 2 years ago 6
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Really? To each her own; I could watch D/W and V/M's OD/FDs all day. N/K are wonderful dancers but their Carmen imo is forgettable.
Team Shpilband's footwork sequences are rather similar but they've got the best lifts in the business currently.
mishieru07 2 years ago
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it's rather up to your personal taste. This olympic figure skating season im my opinion has brought total disappointment. Except women contest which let us have seen breathtaking, overwhelming perfrormances of Yu-Na Kim and Mao Osada. I couldn't stop loving their graceful but very difficult sportive skating.
V-M's original dance was disastrous - no passion, no spanish grace, osteochodrosis spine attitude. But FD was good - they successfully got along with the idea.
AnitnelavCoeur 2 years ago
To each her own=it's rather up to your personal taste :-)
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AnitnelavCoeur 2 years ago
これ以上の演技はどの種目を通してもないと思う。
リアルタイムでこの演技を見られてほんとに良かった。
kadokawaQ 2 years ago
Their skating is mature. The Canadians and the Americans now are children....they can't express such emotions and feelings.
bolonkaladanza 2 years ago 5
@bolonkaladanza hilarious, considering that the primary praise for the canadians virtue and moir for the past eight years has been "fantastic maturity" by skating commentators.
ImNotThere100 1 year ago 2
Sorry, I don't find the Canadians mature yet.
bolonkaladanza 1 year ago
The music of Carmen is great, difficult to surpass it. But wahta a difference to the Canadian and American pairs of 2010!
Krawi6 2 years ago
trained by a russian coach ((((
styrkelful 2 years ago
That's true, but they are completely different. The Russian pair who won bronze were in the Russian tradition. But they were not nearly so good as Navka-Kostomarov.
Krawi6 2 years ago 3
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They're my all time favorite ice dancers!!!!!!
lulu977 2 years ago 4
i miss them too:-((
veroni06 2 years ago 2
I miss them
tchachinafan 2 years ago 2
AMAZING
annakfan 2 years ago 5
that was their highlight! i was really proud of them!
beatsofsoultrain 2 years ago 3
Russian Sport school is best
TheTimurbest 2 years ago 17
Программа, конечно, шедевр!!! Но прокат был не самый чистый, видимо, сказалось нервное напряжение. И все равно, они-Чемпионы!!! И рядом с ними никто не стоял!
alishavalath 2 years ago 10
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I agree with Dick Button. Plus, IMO, this pair was just "Stock Russian"...not very personable or likable at all.
MTVMANN 2 years ago
samay krasivay para , Navka molodshina!
chaneldenolden1 2 years ago 8
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Dinaro4ka07 2 years ago
I love much Russia, really!
Bepx13 2 years ago 9
Ugly feet??? look at your feet first stupid bastard!
redstarElen 2 years ago 52
He doesn't mean her feet are ugly literally; he just wishes she pointed her toes... cus he's a stickler for pointed toes.
nolaughingmatter 2 years ago
@redstarElen HAAHAHAHA! I love your comment, i know its late but great one! Dick he is just an idiot!!!!
igorsinyutin 9 months ago
@redstarElen Those comments kind of unfriendly: " Their positions were extraordinary, Dick". Change you extraordinary name first, and then comment their positions, pervert.
nc11000 4 months ago
did they break up because she had a baby or did i imagine that?
i hope not; they are AMAZING!!!!!!
PaleLittleGirl1 2 years ago 3
if I remember well she gave birth to her daughter in 2000 (or 1999). after the birth she returned to skating with him and then they won 3 time Euros, twice Worlds and the Olys in 2006.
helyszinelokfan 2 years ago 3
Ukraine(Navka) + Russia(Kostomarov) = Victory!!!
guard777 2 years ago 4
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kovalaris 2 years ago
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I love their skating but I think they should have chosen edgier music and choreography for their olympic swan song. I have seen better from them.
TheSienna29 2 years ago
Maybe they really, really, really love Carmen and wanted it to be their Olympic Swan song.
nolaughingmatter 2 years ago
The song is Carmen.
safehaven11 2 years ago 3
russians own the ice skating rink....there is not much one can say about this. or challenge.
Maria91828 2 years ago 20
i love there performance at the olympics...does anyone know where the OD? it used to be onand now it is gone.. it was soo much fun to watch that one lol
samanthaaa18 2 years ago
They were real champions. It's a pity they stopped competing.
lusiplushy94 2 years ago 36
@lusiplushy94 they had a terrific run and are deserving olympic champions
libbyhale68 1 year ago
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Great music and costumes, but nothing common with real Carmen, just good skating. Navka is not Carmen at all, this is not for her appearance and temperament. I even don't want to talk about him.
Abracodabra100 2 years ago
I think this is an excellent performance for them. I want to watch their Original Dance at 2006 olympic.
myrtle0v0 2 years ago 2
I tried to upload her but it's Rejected (terms of use violation) . If you need it, I could upload their OD to the swoopshare and you can download it from there.
helyszinelokfan 2 years ago
YES PLEASE!!
myrtle0v0 2 years ago
I sent you a message with the links.
helyszinelokfan 2 years ago
I agree, they've got some great stuff!!!!!!!!
Luukashism 2 years ago 3
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8 years on, and not nearly as good as Krylova's and Ovsiannikov's 98 Carmen.
jorje286 2 years ago
ugly feet? whats dick button on, i'd like to see his 100 year old feet and then we can talk about ugly
IEatRainbows09 2 years ago 2
Superb!!!!
kkg2005 2 years ago 4
Confidence, sinkronicity, elegance and beauty..... GREAT PERFORMACE!
only4ddd 2 years ago 16
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Is it just me, or does he really suck? She is awesome, but he? Not so much...
psycho9966 2 years ago
it's just you - He is AWESOME!
0Immortelle0 2 years ago 3
I think there's nothing crammed in here. It all comes together beautifully.
What's that idiot talking about ? Ugly feet?
mishkite2u 3 years ago 11
I agree though... I thought Navka's feet could have had a better position, style, and transition, the way Klimova & Ponomarenko would have created more pleasing shapes as the lift progressed.
nolaughingmatter 2 years ago
This is absurd. I don't mind having my comments rated as thumbs down if it's because I made some stupid, thoughtless comment. But I didn't - I was respectful and tried to make a point.
nolaughingmatter 2 years ago 5
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There's some really nice moves here and a lot going on, but you can see why Torvill and Dean are still regarded as the eptiome of ice dance 25 years on. It's like these two are trying to cram in lots of ffrenetic fancy stuff at the expense of artistic impression. It doesn't hang together as a whole. Maybe that's why ice dance has no household names any more.
Naoisevl 3 years ago
What are you talking about? These two were the household names in ice dance from 2004-2006.. They won almost everything, and were the big stars of ice dance.. Torvill and Dean revolutionized ice dance yes, but you cannot compare the two like that...
Uglefanatikeren 2 years ago 11
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Yes you can!...If you're coming from the persective of someone wanting to be engage at an emotional/entertaiment perspective. Otherwise ffair enough. however they were/are absolutley not household names. ertailnly not in the UK.
Naoisevl 2 years ago
That is not a comparison to be made. Of course everyone in the UK knows who Torvill and Dean are. In Russia Navka and Kostomarov are stars just like T/D is in the UK. Figure skating fans know them both. Both teams were outstanding ice dancers of their time. :)
Uglefanatikeren 2 years ago 9
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Yes. I appreciate your point, but as you said yourself T and D changed the face of ice dancing, and to an extent, with the masses, figure skating (some can't tell the difference!). However that is a point in itself. What they did was equal to olga korbut with gymnastics. They took a minority sport and made the world look and want to be involved based onengagement. It was on the news and everything and as a child it made me sit up....technically your guys are fine but..Hope you get my point.
Naoisevl 2 years ago
ugly feet? id like to see your feet
irisxtina89 3 years ago 7
The best! GREAT!!! There are amazing!!!
MartaNefertariR 3 years ago 8
This is one of the best dances in history. Her style and class could not be challenged by anyone. Just true beauty. Although, there were some other pretty and attractive routines, nobody was even close to this one. Great job at the Olympics.
ArtemisDianaSelene 3 years ago 11
totally agree with you!!
They're my all time favorite ice dancers.
Tentenpeach88 2 years ago 7
i prefer Grishuk although Navka is great too.
0Immortelle0 2 years ago 2
I like both!
ArtemisDianaSelene 2 years ago 6
I like this programm!
NotLikeThat16 3 years ago 13
me too, it's a brilliant Carmen.
helyszinelokfan 3 years ago
great!!!!! perfect!!!!!
anutick 3 years ago 9
great!!! it`s astonishing, outstanding, magnificent!!! they are beautiful
KuksyaSPb 3 years ago 11
I agree! I love it!!!
ballerina714 3 years ago 3
Does anyone know the title of the first piece of the music they used (at the beginning)?
860913001 3 years ago 2
I wonder how much was she paid for just a couple of phrases throuot the routine&
Hertrude 3 years ago 7
such unpofessinal comments! (
wicked off-spot cameras on nbc --
totally wrong view and impression!
Very very UNPROFESSIOL!
Hertrude 3 years ago 12
Omg I remeber seeing this live (on tv) in 2006 when the winter olympics was going on. This is one of my favorite performances ever!
LuvnJCandJB 3 years ago 12
The best I've ever seen! I know something about dancing...
ballerina714 4 years ago 7
I watch it everyday, I love them and this performance :)
helyszinelokfan 4 years ago
Thanks for posting,
big pleasure to watch!
NYAKbest 4 years ago 10