@itachi705 You can disagree with me without calling me an idiot ;) If your premise is true, we would have witnessed an expansion of jobs between 2001-2008 under the Bush tax cuts. Cutting taxes does not necessarily create jobs. My original point was that it does not show a lot of courage for a member of the GOP to yell at a teacher. Raising taxes on the wealthiest would.
@itachi705 Teachers are not over paid. Most teachers work 50-60 hours per week, and bring work home with them. They are not paid for overtime. They are overworked and our education system is underfunded. That is part of the reason why our education system is failing: Overworked teachers and an underfunded system. Most teachers would have made more in the private sector with their education level, and that is the truth.
@itachi705 You can disagree without using the word idiot ;) I also value tax cuts. As a part of the middle class, my tax cuts are mostly symbolic compared to the upper class. My point was that as a republican, Christie would show more courage balancing the budget but increasing taxes on the people who can afford it than taking on teachers, which is red meat for the gop.
are you fucking serious?! teachers don't make enough at all , is this man serious maybe he should lower his own pay to a teachers salary and lets see how this fat fuck survives on it.
@saucyjackattak Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
he is absolutley correct...every working man and woman in the private sector has to pay some or all of there health care. why do teachers think they are above this. then I read a story about a teacher in NY who is making over 100k per year and hasnt stepped foot in a classroom in over 10 yrs and he wont retire. what wrong with the teachers union, start here
Christie allowed the Tolls on the Garden State Parkway and the NJ Turnpike to be raised 50%. He also allowed the Tolls on the bridges and tunnels to NYC to be raised to $9 one way. These are regressive taxes on working people.
We live in a world where this man here makes more money micro managing citizens lives in a free country, than a teacher who passes on the knowledge that has been collected through all human existence.
Think about that for a second.....all politics aside.
Teaching is a UNION job, with Union pay and Union benefits and Union tenure. Nobody does nothing in public education without the Union's say-so. and if a teacher is incompetent enough to get canned, damnsurewell the Union Shop steward and the Union Business agent is going to step in and stop that damn quick. You, whoreraps, are a product of that Public Education arent you? Christie is going to crush the NJEA then maybe your kids will get a decent education. But youre beyond help.
@53iBro why can't the teachers contribute the $2 a day for their own health care? If the teachers don't like it they can quit. Why are the teachers so greedy that they will not make a sacrifice like everyone else in the state is making?
As a teacher myself, I understand the necessity to cut spending across the board. Christie is doing what he was elected to do. People need to keep silent and see what happens. It's not wise To fault a governor for trying to balance a budget... that's his job. It sounds like prior NJ governors didn't have the guts to do what Christie is now doing. I am in a state in the SW and we are suffering as well at the hands of this horrible economy.
The funny thing here is that people seem to think Christie is anti-teachers. He's not, at all. He says lovely things about teachers and how grateful he is to them when asked (politely). He's anti the teacher's union, as represented by a few greedy people on top who control the $130 Million a year it takes in while sacrificing its own members, which is a very, very different thing.
no one should be getting paid in "benefits" instead of money. if everyone got to heave the money we worked for instead of having our employer or the government spend our money for us. insurance would be cheaper.
his argument is a strawman, this is obvious right in the beginning of his litle speech. I know NOTHING of this man, but after his first premise, his first chosen words about a subject worty of discussion, i don't need to know anything else.
Christie is a pig, fat and stupid. He is not a pimple on the worst teachers butt. Politicians are like preachers, never done a days work in their whole lives.
Gov. Christie received millions in campaign contributions from the upper economic class. He also vetoed the millionaires tax bill. I don't wonder if there is a connection between the two. Our founding fathers risked their lives to create a representative democracy not a plutocracy. Gov. Christie is great at dividing and conquer tactics. He is brought and paid for with campaign contributions.
@basketballplayer182 No, he makes me mad. Between his proposal to fund private schools w/public tax dollars, his torpedoing of the Hudson Tunnel project (eliminating an est 45,000 jobs), and his helicopter ride to his son's little league game-- I don't understand why people give him any credence. I knew I didn't like Christie when I heard his radio campaign attacking Clean Ocean Action. I volunteered for that org. for 4 years and I'm proud to say it's still around.
@ctennan1 I see. I got the impression that you got offended by his tone of voice and I was like oh give me a break because he's just telling people what he thinks. No I'm not from NJ and I don't know him personally. I like his willingness to come out and give his straight up opinion though. I hate it when politicians give vague responses so they can flip flop if needed. I think someone needed to come in and control the spending.
I'm for getting rid of tenure for teachers and other public sector employees but not until we have term limits for congressmen, senators and all elected officials.
This guy is such a piece of shit. He was a lobbyist for Wall Street so of course he is going to cut government, cut spending on programs that help the stat of NJ. Of course he isnt going to raise taxes on the richest people in NJ. What a SOB.
@issagc New Jersey as a state is dying, and Christie is trying to save it. Only the most ignorant and blind liberals, such as yourself I reckon, deny this.
@MrJ567 the only ignorant person is you. he is not saving the state by cutting education and programs that help people in the state. instead he could have raised taxes on the rich. im sure a whole bunch of the banksters from wall street live in NJ. its time for them to give back the money they stole from the American people. its people like you who are idiots for going around and villainizing liberals just because we have a different view point.
@issagc Really? Do you think those people can be rich while being stupid? Raise the tax all you want, and watch them flee in droves from NJ. You know, when my sale is down, I'll slash my price, not hike it up. But for someone who lives in his mom's basement, the equations can be totally different.
@boulderbash19700209 Its really amazing that rich people would cry over a 1, 2, or 3 percent tax increase. Its not like they are going to miss that extra money that is going to be taxed. The taxes were at least 70% from the presidencies of Eisenhower to Nixon. The economy was booming during those years and you didnt see companies leaving the U.S. in droves.
@issagc If raising taxes on the rich worked, then New Jersey wouldn't be in such a piss poor state. Hell, raise the taxes on the rich too much and they'll just leave and take their jobs with them. And let me clue you in on something you arrogant little communist fuckhead, they don't owe you or anyone else the money they EARNED through their businesses. And public education sucked well before they got their funding cut, believe me. Liberals are a cancer to society.
@MrJ567isback are you a rich person? if not why are you protecting rich people. they owe society to pay a fair share of taxes. why are you crying about a small increase like 4%. the New York governor just increased taxes on the rich and i will bet anything that the rich wont leave and the corporations wont leave NY. you obviously dont care about making society better. the people who were able to get rich had the opportunity to get rich because the previous generation gave them that opportunity.
@issagc what is wrong for todays rich person to give back to society just a little bit more so that the future generations can have the opportunity to have the same success. you really dont understand how super rich the super rich are. im not saying tax them 90%. im saying there should be a sensible tax rate. and again the rich arent paying 35% in taxes like they are supposed to. they are paying like 15% because they make most of their money from capital gains.
@issagc Everyone has the opportunity to succeed in America, that's exactly what makes this country great. Hardwork, determination, patience, and a well thought out business plan can take people an incredible distance if they do it right. Do you have any idea how much work, sweat, and money goes into making a successful business? A HUGE amount! And you recommend punishing these people by snatching away their hard earned money to give the bottomfeeders? That's absolutely unbelievable.
@MrJ567isback I'm not talking about the hardworking small business owner. anyway a lot of small businesses make less than a million dollars. i want those people to get taxed at a lower rate than the super rich.
@issagc I'm not rich, but I work for rich people. They're the ones who make the jobs, take their money away and you take our jobs away. A 4% increase is HUGE. 4% of 1 million is 40 thousand dollars. That's more than I make a year! Some major CEO's pay that much in taxes every single day. And you say they don't contribute enough? Maybe we should try making the poor support themselves, instead of hooking them on government handouts. And the rich WILL leave. That I guarantee.
@MrJ567isback you fell into the Republican lie. the rich arent "job creators". people like you and me create the jobs by giving the companies business. the rich only have the opportunity to give someone a job when we give them money. CEO of hedge funds, banks, corporations dont work hard. the heirs of Walmart just sat on their asses next to a pool and waited for the money to come in. yet they get millions of dollars in bonuses and still lay off workers. also the amount of taxes as a percentage
@issagc of GDP has never been this low. the rich are paying the lowest taxes in history. all what im saying is that trickle down economics that Reagan instituted does not work and we need to find a different model away from Neoliberal policies. we need to put people and the environment over profits. our founding fathers and Teddy Roosevelt told us to beware the corporations and the banks because they will ruin society. and that is exactly what they have done. they have bought most of our
@issagc politicians by giving them campaign donations. we need to get the money out of politics. chris christie is one of those corrupt politicians. he was a lobbyist for Wall Street. he doesnt care about the regular Joe. Republicans only care about the rich and the big corporation. they dont like the small businesses because that creates competition for the corporation. and half the democrats are also bought by the rich and corporations.
@MrJ567isback oh really who indoctrinated me? im a progressive. our ideology is based off of what works and what doesnt. we follow the results and realities of policies and then we choose the one that actually works best. i beat u in the debate. u have to resort to the excuse of me being indoctrinated. if you knew what you were talking about you would actually keep the debate going. you do know that you advocate for fascism and corporatism right? thats what the GOP stands for. its sad i know
@issagc but its true. the GOP is not for the poor or middle class. the GOP actually like to see pain as long as its not you. they dont like providing education, healthcare or anything else to help society. they just like war but when they scream government is too big they never consider cutting the military budget. we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined. that is insanity. Reagan didnt make government smaller. he made it bigger.
@ptburris From what I get, he doesn't deal with recession. That's not his job. That's President's job. He deals with NJ budget, which is in a deep hole because of overspending.
I know many who left teaching and are making alot more including me. In fact I had doubled my salary in less than one year and received both a pension AND a 401K plus many other benefits that teachers don't get (like legal plans, adoption assistance, disability,etc.etc.).
And I work less hours now then when I was teaching!!! And that's a fact!!!
@UltraProle21 So true! Because their degree, work experience, and "credentials" don't qualify them for anything else! And who would hire them for **ANYWHERE NEAR** the pay?
Well my Civics teacher (yes he's a public school teacher) is a very conservative teacher. I think my Civics teacher has a very good reason at working in a run down school like Pete Knight:
To educate the uneducated :P
I like my Civics teacher and I don't think he believes that if he were to take a pay cut like this in California (i live in Cali, not New Jersey of course) he would complain. But the rest of the Union would complain. I rlly like Christie xD
@psiewert83 What is your problem, ultrapole21? Did you get sent to the Principal's office a lot when you were in school? It sure sounds like it, because you seem to be really bitter. Teachers are some of the hardest working people in this country. You should actually visit a school sometime, you might learn something... at least you may change your bitter tone. LOL
@UltraProle21 I agree with you. Most public school teachers can't do basic math. It makes me sick that they get paid on average over 60 grand, dont pay into pensions, and get treated like gods
@UltraProle21 Not true.Not if you factor in that they work 50-60 hours per week without extra pay or overtime pay. The pay is not more, the benefits may be more. But better benefits is the trade off. The trade off for long unpaid hours and an ungrateful public.
no but the new teachers knowing nj does not honour pensions will apply elsewhere.they will work while looking elsewhere.eventualy they know the pay will walmart scale pay
The teachers are over paid and robbing us of money , They laid off the cops 'WHICH WE NEED MORE THEN TEACHERS' They need to get rid of the teachers who are over paid and are not teaching the kids. The only thing teachers give a shit about is their fucking pay checks
I'm not usually like this, and I'm not a teacher, but comments like this, make me sick. I'm sure you care about your paycheck too. Any family man would. Teachers care alot more than a paycheck, believe me. I used to teach, left for much better pay - so I would say those that stay, care more than just the paycheck.
Mitt Romney has supported everything President Obama has. I think Louis Farrakhan told his group to vote Mitt Romney in Massachusetts, it is like 60% Democrat to 30% Republican, a land slid in the democratic favor.
Gov Chris Christie from New Jersey must be a Democrat Planted as a GOP too.
I remember when Republicans were good tax paying citizens. Now their a bunch of greedy people bent on destroying the US. The country that made the world safe for them to do business and this is how the greedy pay the US back.
@ruppertknickerbocker Are you kidding? From my view point I only see liberal Dems killing our Country with over spending and all their progressive programs. The Great Society program of the Sixty's, Billions spent yet poverty has increased, Alignment with big Unions, forced jobs to be outsourced. Need I say more?
@roger6060 Are you kidding look at how much Christie sends on Corp welfare. Its impossible for a moderate on one side you got the greedy who believe in corp welfare and welfare for the rich and on the other side you got the liberals who can't balance their own checkbook and only support unions and government employees. And the working people have no one we need to get rid of the republicians and democrats and start over.
Mitt Romney has supported everything President Obama has. I think Louis Farrakhan told his group to vote Mitt Romney in Massachusetts, it is like 60% Democrat to 30% Republican, a land slid in the democratic favor.
Gov Chris Christie from New Jersey must be a Democrat Planted as a GOP too.
@rigatony019 The teachers unions are composed of teachers, run and organized by teachers, for the benefit of teachers. I live in a state where the teacher's unions are powerless. They make much less in salary and benefits than surrounding union states. Teachers join unions b/c it's in their interest. If i were teaching, I'd teach in a district that pays well.
@Dystral he's still not mocking teachers as a whole. I fail to see how anything you said negates anything I've said regardless of how true it may be. Also, keep in mind people in impoverished neighborhoods join gangs because its "in their interest".. gangs and unions have more in common than just being in people interests.
ROFL! So, you're comparing teachers to gangs? If your third grade teacher knew about the drivel you're spouting, she'd take you over her knee and give you a tanning you'd never forget! Oh, yeahhhh, but it's probably the teacher's fault--again-- that you're so badly uninformed;>
@Dystral again, UNIONS... not teachers. im having a hard time figuring out whether youre trying to use some sort of strawman arguement if youre just simple minded.
@rigatony019 Name calling is the last resort when you've lost the argument, rigatony...sigh.... It's very easy to understand. I'll explain again.....Teacher's work together in unions to protect their interests, collective bargaining....they're not "gangs". If you trash their union, you attack them, Man up and face those you accuse--teachers. You're splitting hairs.
whats in for the kids ? does the teaching improve / does it get better when the teacher earns more or has better benefits or do they still teach the same "value" each year as before ? so again, whats in for the kids ?
So, your argument is that paying teachers LESS is going to improve our student's education? Really.
Typically, teachers will take the assignment with the best pay, benefits, upward mobility, and accessibility UNLESS, the school or district in question has a history of discipline issues or lack of support. Then, they will weigh the costs and benefits and make the best choice based on the relative merits. Pay teachers well and reap the benefits nationwide.
thats not what i said nor meant,my question is what is in for the kids? i assume thats why someone chooses to be a teacher and yes iam well aware of that even teachers look or have to look out where they can get the best pay,like in any other job,my point is...if you are a good Teacher and the kids entrusted to you do very well in any test,you deserve a better pay,if not you dont,but to claim because you teach you deserve it ...aint gonna fly with me,cuz the kids are my focus
Borrowing your phrase, "What's in it for the kids?" It's to the kids benefit to have highly trained teachers, with advanced degrees, (Masters, PhD's). It's "in it for the kids" to have world class educators, which means greater success in school. By inference, you are suggesting we need the best teachers for our kids and I agree, and we need to pay them commensurate to the investment in their training.
i agree we need highly skilled Teachers,but NOT teachers that are "just" highly payed,high pay and best healthcare/pension doesnt mean highly skilled,btw no one every payed me back for my training,it is on my shoulders and no i do not expect someone else to pay that bill for me,as you suggest we should do for the teachers (at least that how it sounds to me),so in the end i do not believe that the kids are better of with a high payed Teacher compared to one that puts kids first
@mazer2015 how about starting tomorrow we cut your salary 18% and pass that money on to say Wal mart so they can create more jobs? hell, go take it then if its so great.
not a 3 month vacation.anyone who thinks that doesn't know.many of those "days off" r spent correcting papers &planning lessons.spread the 70 hr wks out over 52 weeks &teachers work more than the private sector. I know, I left teaching &have more time off w/my 3.5 wks off then I did when I taught. I was constantly tired &had no energy left for family when I got home. Now we enjoy our evening meals together & weekends because I didn't bring work home! And I make mega bucks more!
@HeIsNothingButABully Give me a break, lesson plans are pretty much the same year after year. Sure maybe you have to tweak one a little bit but not enough to waste more than a couple days of your precious 3 month vacation.
u must know, right? I'm not a teacher, but I know the curriculum changes every other yr- they hire curriculum folks & to justify a high salary, they keep change the curriculum& HOW teachers should teach causing plan changes. U get different classes at different levels & mandates that come out every yr of teachers.Get out a calendar, because many schools in NJ ended last yr around the June 28th&start Sept 2. 3 mos?Those against teachers always seem to exaggerate. u r no exception.
Teachers don't get paid for the kids' summer vacations. Also, most teachers I know have to work summers to make ends meet. I'm sure most teachers would rather teach year round to make more money, but only schools in well to do areas can afford year around sessions.
@Dystral are you serious? teachers get paid on salary so how can you say they dont get paid for the summer off? they have to option to get their salary split up for the 9 months school is in session or the full 12 month year... its the same amount of money regardless... and they have to work year round to make ends meet! ooooh noooo! do you have to work year round? do i have to work year round? does EVERYBODY have to work year round!?
saying i cant tell if youre simple minded or not isnt calling you simple minded, its just acknowleding that it is a very real possibility but its currently tbd. another straw-man. im not certain you know how a union works, there are officials who are NOT teachers. they also make in excess of half a million anually. I think an average of 40-50 some thousand a year is enough to live on... i also dont pity anyone for the simple fact that they need to work year round like the rest of us.
I find it ironic that you are calling me simple minded and yet you lack elementary writing skills --the pot calling the kettle black--look it up:) I'll resist the urge to correct your spelling and grammar:) You're making sweeping generalizations about the exorbitant pay you're saying union reps make. In my state, teachers are elected to union leadership roles and receive no pay. Office staff and support workers make a salary. Also, most teachers WANT to work year round!
@Dystral its a youtube comment, not a dissertation.Your state is not the state in question. Christie represents a state in which the head of the teachers union does in fact make in excess of a half million a year.
If you stoop to name calling, at least support your self-professed superiority by demonstrating a knowledge of basic writing skills. However, I'm happy to see that you have accepted that not all unions are the evil boogeymen as originally cast. Assuming that you are correct about the pay of NJ's leadership, I agree that is too much and should be based on student and teacher success. Christie should be held to the same standard.
Thanks, rigatony, you've made my point for me:) It's the same pay across the board, for the days the teacher is contracted to work.-not the full year. So, if the pay is not enough to make ends meet, which is typically the case for teachers, then a second job is required. In countries like South Korea and Finland, all teachers have advanced degrees and great pay compared to the USA. If we want a world class educational system, we need to adequately fund it.
so his solution is lower taxes xD ..where have i heard this before? if you want a real president i suggest you take a look at Ron Paul. he's the most republican out of all the candidates. gtfo of other countries buisness time to focus on our problems! dammit vote for Ron paul if you want a president who won't bend over to big companies. PLS for the sake of America vote a president who you know will do the things he says and not change his views mid presidency
I guess you don't mean the song---a good one:) I don't mean to be cruel, but as a public servant, he is a role model and should model good eating and fitness habits. Lord knows we already have an obesity epidemic in this country.
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This guy's a real son of a bitch isnt he? that's all this guy does is complain and tell us about his sob stories "this is the crap I have to hear"
this isnt what we pay our elected representatives for. raise revenue fathead! raise revenue for your state and while youre at it, bring in a few hundred thousand jobs to the state
JOBS, not sob stories. this guy's going nowhere believe me
I don't care how mouthy Christie gets, he's too socially liberal for me. I've had enough liberalism for one lifetime.
My #1 choice will Herman Cain, if the polls look like he can win the primary. I don't want Romney, since he is covering up his love for universal, socialized healthcare. I will vote for another slow talkin' Texan before I will Romney.
"Crawl back to the trailer park you came from you could not spell cat if they gave you the c and t, typical evangelical republican teabagging illiterate redneck"
A desperate cry for attention, or the result of willingful ignorance and spread of hate-speech by mainstream media outlets...
The problem with having the workers contribute one cent to their health care is that it will tun into 2, then 3, then etc. The way the system is set up we have no idea what the true cost of medical is, the insurance companies take a $100 charge negotiate it to $50, pay $30 and stick you with 40% of the bill. The only way to keep from being the victim of a cost shifting shell game is to have single payer health care.
Yeah, then we will be the victims of a care-rationing, waiting-list-plagued, innovation crushing, corrupt, bankrupt, money-sucking bureaucracy, where faceless panels of bureaucrats decide who gets what health care and who doesn't---and there is NO APPEAL and NOWHERE ELSE TO TURN for medical help.
Sure, that will be great. Let's hand our heath care over to the people who run the Department of Motor Vehicles.
@UncleIrv care-rationing, what do you think HMO's do? waiting-list-plagued, the greatest fear we ALL have with socialized medicine is the system abuser, so a little waiting as a disincentive is not all bad. innovation crushing, the only innovation we have now is exclusion clauses to raise corporate profits, if you can name another form of innovation feel free to speak up. money-sucking bureaucracy, sounds like your describing an HMO again. Here is one you didn't think of, billing standardization
Ahhh, you leftists do love your logical fallacies.
For example, the FALSE DICHOTOMY: Beginning with the premise that the only two options are the STATUS QUO or a system that is EVEN MORE crippled with statist cluster-fuck. Opposing Idiocy does not make one a supporter of dumbness.
And the old standby: Simply living in an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE that bears no resemblance to that in which most of us reside. Where I live, virtually ALL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES of the last century were US led.
@UncleIrv republican teabagging turd talking about technological advancements LOl look at idiots running for president for republicans, rick perry who wants to teach BS creationism in schools which will make s the laughingstock of the world, bachman not even going waste my time. Republicans= brain dead teabagging evangelical morons who believe in adam and eve and the universe is only 10.000 years old and men walked on earth with dinosaurs
You must be a farmer, because you sure are good at building straw men.
I am a teacher of physics. I have a greater command of science than you have of of fucking your cousin, you inbred hate-mongering moron. Sorry, but your liberal-fascist propaganda bullshit talking points will not work on educated people.
@UncleIrv Crawl back to the trailer park you came from you could not spell cat if they gave you the c and t, typical evangelical republican teabagging illiterate redneck
@UncleIrv You suffer from the mistaken perception that I support Obama care when nothing could be further from the truth. The paramount reform of healthcare that I seek is standardization of billing, have you looked into your doctors back office and noticed the army of staff he has to keep so they can all figure out the various insurance policies and forms. I come to the table with fresh ideas that encourage competition and the free market, but damned they only give me 500 characters to tell yo
Ahhh. Well since I do not know the details of how this "standardization" would work, it's impossible for me to comment. But I will predict with 100% certainty that if this "standardization" is IMPOSED BY GOVERNMENT then it will become as corrupted by corporatist cronyism as the current "shell game" you lament.
See, I did not label you wrong, because you began by praising a "single payer" system. This means ELITIST IMPOSITION rather than MARKET FORCES. That's the wrong direction.
@UncleIrv Socialized medicine has worked well for many countries and it doesn't upset me at all, but here is what comes out of the Republican side of my brain. Take just a hand full of preexisting policies that are decent money makers and make them the only policies (and forms) that all insurance companies can offer, that way they all must compete of price, quality, and innovation alone. this is my exclusive idea and is a hybridization of free but limited market. What do you think?
Socialized medicine has worked well for WHO? The people who died on waiting lists? I understand you MEAN WELL, but this does not excuse the fact that statism is destructive.
Europe has the LUXURY of abusing their populations with socialized medicine for the same reason they have the luxury of not paying for a standing army---WE PROVIDE WHAT'S MISSING. Do you think it's a COINCIDENCE that nearly all medical innovation originates in the US?
@UncleIrv I prefer to use the word focusing competition into areas that meet the needs of the consumer and not the corporation. Since you have asked which countries are doing well with socialized medicine here are a few, Canada, Australia, Germany, (and we all know what a rough time they are having financing the rest of Europe) Finland, and Israel to name a few. On statistical measures of health and medical outcomes many of these countries rate higher than the US.
@UncleIrv While we are on the subject of innovation I should point out that you suffer from a severe deficit of constructive ideas. The status quo is clearly unacceptable as costs are rising at an unsustainable rate, and this has nothing to do with military spending whatsoever. As a matter of fact many of the countries with socialized medicine have superior outcomes for their patients at a lower cost. The US leads the world in clinical citations, but being the 3rd biggest that is expected.
Deficit of Ideas? Ridiculous. What good are ideas that DO NOT WORK and have proven themselves so, repeatedly? The solution is clear: Reinstate market incentives to drive down prices. Eliminate corporatist meddling. This has not been tried in the post-FDR age!
Again, it is a FALSE DICHOTOMY to infer that the only options are either the status quo or EVEN MORE corporatist meddling by government.
These stories about "superior outcomes" are leftist propaganda. TALK TO THE PEOPLE.
@UncleIrv well that's what I like about my idea, the government just defines the market using preexisting policies that are known to work and then steps back and lets the market take over. The way it is now, some of the coverage offered is so paper thin it is unfit for the purpose for which it was created. We are never going to see eye to eye on the big picture so let's focus on some of the small stuff. Can we agree that price is set by the market force of supply and demand?
First, explain exactly WHY we need the government to "define the market"? See, this illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding of market economies. Markets, by definition, do a fine job of DEFINING THEMSELVES.
Some coverage is "paper thin"? See, this is presumptuous elitism. How do you know that there isn't a MARKET for paper thin coverage (i.e., catastrophic only coverage)? In fact, there is! but bureaucrats NARROW THE CHOICES for consumers.
@UncleIrv In today's market most consumers don't have any idea what they are getting, insurance policies can't be compared one to another with all the exemptions, exclusions, and non liability clauses. By making a limited number of policies available consumers will be able to compare coverage head to head. Contractual innovation and medical innovation are two different things, we want medical innovation, but contractual innovation is just a way of not covering someone. Supply and demand later.
if he's willing to give up that 150k a year spending account he gets on top of his salary then he'd have the right to ask other state employees to sacrifice otherwise where does he get balls asking others to sacrifice when he himself is not willing to do so
@antman08015 omg it's 1.5% can you cry anymore .. and how do you know he didn't take a pay cut ding dong ... look something up before you Faceroll ya self
@antman08015 Oh get over it.....he has a job to do and he is grabbing the bull by the horns and doing it. These teacher's can make a small sacrifice and if they don't like it they can do something else. These Union's are holding this Nation hostage with all their rhetoric and threats....
@antman08015 Oh get over it.....he has a job to do and he is grabbing the bull by the horns and doing it. These teacher's can make a small sacrifice and if they don't like it they can do something else. These Union's are holding this Nation hostage with all their rhetoric and threats....
@royaldice75 Without teachers who will educate the nations youth? Teachers are necessary, and teachers shouldn't have to put up with poor pay and a lack of benefits, teachers play a vital role in the educational system and they shouldn't be paid poorly for choosing to educate the youth. Also, without unions workers would be getting paid only a few dollars an hour and could be fired just for getting sick and being unable to work. Unions protect the average workers rights and are good for America.
@itachi705 You can disagree with me without calling me an idiot ;) If your premise is true, we would have witnessed an expansion of jobs between 2001-2008 under the Bush tax cuts. Cutting taxes does not necessarily create jobs. My original point was that it does not show a lot of courage for a member of the GOP to yell at a teacher. Raising taxes on the wealthiest would.
stpooh 2 days ago
@itachi705 Teachers are not over paid. Most teachers work 50-60 hours per week, and bring work home with them. They are not paid for overtime. They are overworked and our education system is underfunded. That is part of the reason why our education system is failing: Overworked teachers and an underfunded system. Most teachers would have made more in the private sector with their education level, and that is the truth.
stpooh 2 days ago
@itachi705 You can disagree without using the word idiot ;) I also value tax cuts. As a part of the middle class, my tax cuts are mostly symbolic compared to the upper class. My point was that as a republican, Christie would show more courage balancing the budget but increasing taxes on the people who can afford it than taking on teachers, which is red meat for the gop.
stpooh 4 days ago
are you fucking serious?! teachers don't make enough at all , is this man serious maybe he should lower his own pay to a teachers salary and lets see how this fat fuck survives on it.
mrmime00 6 days ago
@mrmime00 They should quite then and fine a better paying job - Dont demand that the rest of the people throw money at them.
mason72518 1 day ago
What a steaming pile of stinking republican shit. Disgusting obese piece of three cheese lasagne.
saucyjackattak 1 week ago
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marionetemanJ 6 days ago
So pompous. So FAT. So over.
videoishd 1 week ago
They're laughing because you're a fucking clown Christie!And who paid for the helicopter to see your faggot kids?
essanay45 1 week ago
Who are the 66 persons (as of 2/17) that does not like this??? What a puzzle...
longbeachboy57 2 weeks ago
Chris Christie is a BOSS.
gsizzles 2 weeks ago
I disagree with him, but he's funny.
nathanjamesbaker 2 weeks ago
he is absolutley correct...every working man and woman in the private sector has to pay some or all of there health care. why do teachers think they are above this. then I read a story about a teacher in NY who is making over 100k per year and hasnt stepped foot in a classroom in over 10 yrs and he wont retire. what wrong with the teachers union, start here
brpoole336 2 weeks ago 2
Christie allowed the Tolls on the Garden State Parkway and the NJ Turnpike to be raised 50%. He also allowed the Tolls on the bridges and tunnels to NYC to be raised to $9 one way. These are regressive taxes on working people.
Srhandel 2 weeks ago
We live in a world where this man here makes more money micro managing citizens lives in a free country, than a teacher who passes on the knowledge that has been collected through all human existence.
Think about that for a second.....all politics aside.
whoraps 3 weeks ago
Teaching is a UNION job, with Union pay and Union benefits and Union tenure. Nobody does nothing in public education without the Union's say-so. and if a teacher is incompetent enough to get canned, damnsurewell the Union Shop steward and the Union Business agent is going to step in and stop that damn quick. You, whoreraps, are a product of that Public Education arent you? Christie is going to crush the NJEA then maybe your kids will get a decent education. But youre beyond help.
s6u6r6f6 3 weeks ago 2
What an ignorant fuck! These men and women are helping your kids ACHIEVE ALL THAT THEY CAN BE. Can you put a price tag on that? I can't.
But I know one thing for certain about that price tag, it sure as hell isn't 1.5% less than they are already making now.
53iBro 4 weeks ago
@53iBro why can't the teachers contribute the $2 a day for their own health care? If the teachers don't like it they can quit. Why are the teachers so greedy that they will not make a sacrifice like everyone else in the state is making?
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Fat fuck so disrespectful
Lovingmefirst732 1 month ago
62 tenured union teachers disliked this vid.
wayupinya1 1 month ago 4
As a teacher myself, I understand the necessity to cut spending across the board. Christie is doing what he was elected to do. People need to keep silent and see what happens. It's not wise To fault a governor for trying to balance a budget... that's his job. It sounds like prior NJ governors didn't have the guts to do what Christie is now doing. I am in a state in the SW and we are suffering as well at the hands of this horrible economy.
johe64 1 month ago
@avenqer I'm curious. what are you basing this claim on?
Templar2112 1 month ago
Teachers are greedy brainwashers. They work half a year in reality (180 days)
JawsJaws 1 month ago 5
The funny thing here is that people seem to think Christie is anti-teachers. He's not, at all. He says lovely things about teachers and how grateful he is to them when asked (politely). He's anti the teacher's union, as represented by a few greedy people on top who control the $130 Million a year it takes in while sacrificing its own members, which is a very, very different thing.
frandlandman 1 month ago
no one should be getting paid in "benefits" instead of money. if everyone got to heave the money we worked for instead of having our employer or the government spend our money for us. insurance would be cheaper.
halloranedward 1 month ago
his argument is a strawman, this is obvious right in the beginning of his litle speech. I know NOTHING of this man, but after his first premise, his first chosen words about a subject worty of discussion, i don't need to know anything else.
prowled 1 month ago
Christie is a pig, fat and stupid. He is not a pimple on the worst teachers butt. Politicians are like preachers, never done a days work in their whole lives.
demonorse 1 month ago
Who is he to lecture us on budgeting when he can't even balance his food budget?
challengeyourmind 1 month ago
Gov. Christie received millions in campaign contributions from the upper economic class. He also vetoed the millionaires tax bill. I don't wonder if there is a connection between the two. Our founding fathers risked their lives to create a representative democracy not a plutocracy. Gov. Christie is great at dividing and conquer tactics. He is brought and paid for with campaign contributions.
Icarianbrother 1 month ago
Chris Christie is a bully
ctennan1 1 month ago
@ctennan1 Awww. Did he make you feel unnncommmforrtable?
basketballplayer182 1 month ago
@basketballplayer182 No, he makes me mad. Between his proposal to fund private schools w/public tax dollars, his torpedoing of the Hudson Tunnel project (eliminating an est 45,000 jobs), and his helicopter ride to his son's little league game-- I don't understand why people give him any credence. I knew I didn't like Christie when I heard his radio campaign attacking Clean Ocean Action. I volunteered for that org. for 4 years and I'm proud to say it's still around.
You're not from NJ are you?
ctennan1 1 month ago
@ctennan1 I see. I got the impression that you got offended by his tone of voice and I was like oh give me a break because he's just telling people what he thinks. No I'm not from NJ and I don't know him personally. I like his willingness to come out and give his straight up opinion though. I hate it when politicians give vague responses so they can flip flop if needed. I think someone needed to come in and control the spending.
basketballplayer182 1 month ago
I'm for getting rid of tenure for teachers and other public sector employees but not until we have term limits for congressmen, senators and all elected officials.
JesusCleaver 1 month ago
This guy is such a piece of shit. He was a lobbyist for Wall Street so of course he is going to cut government, cut spending on programs that help the stat of NJ. Of course he isnt going to raise taxes on the richest people in NJ. What a SOB.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc New Jersey as a state is dying, and Christie is trying to save it. Only the most ignorant and blind liberals, such as yourself I reckon, deny this.
MrJ567isback 2 months ago
@MrJ567 the only ignorant person is you. he is not saving the state by cutting education and programs that help people in the state. instead he could have raised taxes on the rich. im sure a whole bunch of the banksters from wall street live in NJ. its time for them to give back the money they stole from the American people. its people like you who are idiots for going around and villainizing liberals just because we have a different view point.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc Really? Do you think those people can be rich while being stupid? Raise the tax all you want, and watch them flee in droves from NJ. You know, when my sale is down, I'll slash my price, not hike it up. But for someone who lives in his mom's basement, the equations can be totally different.
boulderbash19700209 2 months ago
@boulderbash19700209 Its really amazing that rich people would cry over a 1, 2, or 3 percent tax increase. Its not like they are going to miss that extra money that is going to be taxed. The taxes were at least 70% from the presidencies of Eisenhower to Nixon. The economy was booming during those years and you didnt see companies leaving the U.S. in droves.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc If raising taxes on the rich worked, then New Jersey wouldn't be in such a piss poor state. Hell, raise the taxes on the rich too much and they'll just leave and take their jobs with them. And let me clue you in on something you arrogant little communist fuckhead, they don't owe you or anyone else the money they EARNED through their businesses. And public education sucked well before they got their funding cut, believe me. Liberals are a cancer to society.
MrJ567isback 2 months ago
@MrJ567isback are you a rich person? if not why are you protecting rich people. they owe society to pay a fair share of taxes. why are you crying about a small increase like 4%. the New York governor just increased taxes on the rich and i will bet anything that the rich wont leave and the corporations wont leave NY. you obviously dont care about making society better. the people who were able to get rich had the opportunity to get rich because the previous generation gave them that opportunity.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc what is wrong for todays rich person to give back to society just a little bit more so that the future generations can have the opportunity to have the same success. you really dont understand how super rich the super rich are. im not saying tax them 90%. im saying there should be a sensible tax rate. and again the rich arent paying 35% in taxes like they are supposed to. they are paying like 15% because they make most of their money from capital gains.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc Everyone has the opportunity to succeed in America, that's exactly what makes this country great. Hardwork, determination, patience, and a well thought out business plan can take people an incredible distance if they do it right. Do you have any idea how much work, sweat, and money goes into making a successful business? A HUGE amount! And you recommend punishing these people by snatching away their hard earned money to give the bottomfeeders? That's absolutely unbelievable.
MrJ567isback 2 months ago
@MrJ567isback I'm not talking about the hardworking small business owner. anyway a lot of small businesses make less than a million dollars. i want those people to get taxed at a lower rate than the super rich.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc I'm not rich, but I work for rich people. They're the ones who make the jobs, take their money away and you take our jobs away. A 4% increase is HUGE. 4% of 1 million is 40 thousand dollars. That's more than I make a year! Some major CEO's pay that much in taxes every single day. And you say they don't contribute enough? Maybe we should try making the poor support themselves, instead of hooking them on government handouts. And the rich WILL leave. That I guarantee.
MrJ567isback 2 months ago
@MrJ567isback you fell into the Republican lie. the rich arent "job creators". people like you and me create the jobs by giving the companies business. the rich only have the opportunity to give someone a job when we give them money. CEO of hedge funds, banks, corporations dont work hard. the heirs of Walmart just sat on their asses next to a pool and waited for the money to come in. yet they get millions of dollars in bonuses and still lay off workers. also the amount of taxes as a percentage
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc of GDP has never been this low. the rich are paying the lowest taxes in history. all what im saying is that trickle down economics that Reagan instituted does not work and we need to find a different model away from Neoliberal policies. we need to put people and the environment over profits. our founding fathers and Teddy Roosevelt told us to beware the corporations and the banks because they will ruin society. and that is exactly what they have done. they have bought most of our
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc politicians by giving them campaign donations. we need to get the money out of politics. chris christie is one of those corrupt politicians. he was a lobbyist for Wall Street. he doesnt care about the regular Joe. Republicans only care about the rich and the big corporation. they dont like the small businesses because that creates competition for the corporation. and half the democrats are also bought by the rich and corporations.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc You've clearly been indoctrinated. I will not waste further time in debate with you.
MrJ567isback 2 months ago
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@MrJ567isback oh really who indoctrinated me? im a progressive. our ideology is based off of what works and what doesnt. we follow the results and realities of policies and then we choose the one that actually works best. i beat u in the debate. u have to resort to the excuse of me being indoctrinated. if you knew what you were talking about you would actually keep the debate going. you do know that you advocate for fascism and corporatism right? thats what the GOP stands for. its sad i know
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc but its true. the GOP is not for the poor or middle class. the GOP actually like to see pain as long as its not you. they dont like providing education, healthcare or anything else to help society. they just like war but when they scream government is too big they never consider cutting the military budget. we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined. that is insanity. Reagan didnt make government smaller. he made it bigger.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc You .. you .. reply to yourself? Like ... masturbating or .. fuck yourself ... HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?!?!?!
boulderbash19700209 2 months ago
@boulderbash19700209 I reply to myself you idiot because there is a word limit on each reply.
issagc 2 months ago
@issagc You reaaaally love to read your own writings, huh?
boulderbash19700209 2 months ago
@issagc you're an idiot
91bushd 2 months ago
@91bushd typical conservative resorting to name calling instead of debating.
issagc 2 months ago
LaLaGrunge - asshole!
ptburris 2 months ago
Yup teachers and firefighters and nurses and their unions caused a the great recession. I laugh at the governor...what a fat, very well to do SOB
ptburris 2 months ago
@ptburris Yeah, cause that's what he said right?
danielduffy76 2 months ago
@ptburris From what I get, he doesn't deal with recession. That's not his job. That's President's job. He deals with NJ budget, which is in a deep hole because of overspending.
boulderbash19700209 2 months ago
most public school teachers are incapable of getting a private sector job of comparable pay & benefits. sorry but it's true.
UltraProle21 2 months ago 19
@UltraProle21
funny....
I know many who left teaching and are making alot more including me. In fact I had doubled my salary in less than one year and received both a pension AND a 401K plus many other benefits that teachers don't get (like legal plans, adoption assistance, disability,etc.etc.).
And I work less hours now then when I was teaching!!! And that's a fact!!!
HeIsNothingButABully 2 months ago
@UltraProle21 So true! Because their degree, work experience, and "credentials" don't qualify them for anything else! And who would hire them for **ANYWHERE NEAR** the pay?
ticks4ticks4 1 month ago 14
@UltraProle21
Well my Civics teacher (yes he's a public school teacher) is a very conservative teacher. I think my Civics teacher has a very good reason at working in a run down school like Pete Knight:
To educate the uneducated :P
I like my Civics teacher and I don't think he believes that if he were to take a pay cut like this in California (i live in Cali, not New Jersey of course) he would complain. But the rest of the Union would complain. I rlly like Christie xD
Mage13246 1 month ago
@UltraProle21 Most public school teachers would fail a placement test in private schools..
avenqer 1 month ago
@UltraProle21 Perhaps if they got a better education themselves they could actually get a real job.
psiewert83 1 month ago
@psiewert83 What is your problem, ultrapole21? Did you get sent to the Principal's office a lot when you were in school? It sure sounds like it, because you seem to be really bitter. Teachers are some of the hardest working people in this country. You should actually visit a school sometime, you might learn something... at least you may change your bitter tone. LOL
johe64 1 month ago
@UltraProle21 I agree with you. Most public school teachers can't do basic math. It makes me sick that they get paid on average over 60 grand, dont pay into pensions, and get treated like gods
psiewert83 1 month ago
@UltraProle21 Prove it.
ReasonIsADivineGift 1 week ago
@UltraProle21 Not true.Not if you factor in that they work 50-60 hours per week without extra pay or overtime pay. The pay is not more, the benefits may be more. But better benefits is the trade off. The trade off for long unpaid hours and an ungrateful public.
stpooh 2 days ago
he is nothing but someone trying to entertain you
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DrStrangeScents 3 months ago
no but the new teachers knowing nj does not honour pensions will apply elsewhere.they will work while looking elsewhere.eventualy they know the pay will walmart scale pay
stealthgerm 4 months ago
The teachers are over paid and robbing us of money , They laid off the cops 'WHICH WE NEED MORE THEN TEACHERS' They need to get rid of the teachers who are over paid and are not teaching the kids. The only thing teachers give a shit about is their fucking pay checks
Rickey85 4 months ago
@Rickey85
yeah right
HeIsNothingButABully 3 months ago
@Rickey85
too bad! pay them and like it!!! LOL!
I'm not usually like this, and I'm not a teacher, but comments like this, make me sick. I'm sure you care about your paycheck too. Any family man would. Teachers care alot more than a paycheck, believe me. I used to teach, left for much better pay - so I would say those that stay, care more than just the paycheck.
HeIsNothingButABully 3 months ago
Yeah Right, New Jersey Schools ,ratings 1 out of 10 scale is only 1,2, or 3 out of 10 . That is not good.
Rickey85 3 months ago
Quit putting band-aids on large wounds. It's time to reform the ripping off of the people to keep a few people in cushy jobs.
EconCat88 4 months ago
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Mitt Romney has supported everything President Obama has. I think Louis Farrakhan told his group to vote Mitt Romney in Massachusetts, it is like 60% Democrat to 30% Republican, a land slid in the democratic favor.
Gov Chris Christie from New Jersey must be a Democrat Planted as a GOP too.
gregcyber 4 months ago
I remember when Republicans were good tax paying citizens. Now their a bunch of greedy people bent on destroying the US. The country that made the world safe for them to do business and this is how the greedy pay the US back.
ruppertknickerbocker 4 months ago
@ruppertknickerbocker Are you kidding? From my view point I only see liberal Dems killing our Country with over spending and all their progressive programs. The Great Society program of the Sixty's, Billions spent yet poverty has increased, Alignment with big Unions, forced jobs to be outsourced. Need I say more?
roger6060 4 months ago
@roger6060 Are you kidding look at how much Christie sends on Corp welfare. Its impossible for a moderate on one side you got the greedy who believe in corp welfare and welfare for the rich and on the other side you got the liberals who can't balance their own checkbook and only support unions and government employees. And the working people have no one we need to get rid of the republicians and democrats and start over.
ruppertknickerbocker 4 months ago
@ruppertknickerbocker I rather have Corp welfare, no poor man has ever given me a job. And to start all over, I think Christie is the new beginning.
What working people do you talk of? 47% of them don't pay any Federal taxes!!!
roger6060 4 months ago
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Mitt Romney has supported everything President Obama has. I think Louis Farrakhan told his group to vote Mitt Romney in Massachusetts, it is like 60% Democrat to 30% Republican, a land slid in the democratic favor.
Gov Chris Christie from New Jersey must be a Democrat Planted as a GOP too.
gregcyber 4 months ago
How about we just have medicare for all?
Saebeck32 4 months ago
I love it!
kuzak20 4 months ago
Yea, he's mocking teachers as a whole, postering to his radical rightist base. It's sad when teachers are made out to be the bad guys.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral not the teachers, the teachers unions...
rigatony019 4 months ago
@rigatony019 The teachers unions are composed of teachers, run and organized by teachers, for the benefit of teachers. I live in a state where the teacher's unions are powerless. They make much less in salary and benefits than surrounding union states. Teachers join unions b/c it's in their interest. If i were teaching, I'd teach in a district that pays well.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral he's still not mocking teachers as a whole. I fail to see how anything you said negates anything I've said regardless of how true it may be. Also, keep in mind people in impoverished neighborhoods join gangs because its "in their interest".. gangs and unions have more in common than just being in people interests.
rigatony019 4 months ago
@rigatony019
ROFL! So, you're comparing teachers to gangs? If your third grade teacher knew about the drivel you're spouting, she'd take you over her knee and give you a tanning you'd never forget! Oh, yeahhhh, but it's probably the teacher's fault--again-- that you're so badly uninformed;>
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral again, UNIONS... not teachers. im having a hard time figuring out whether youre trying to use some sort of strawman arguement if youre just simple minded.
rigatony019 4 months ago
@rigatony019 Name calling is the last resort when you've lost the argument, rigatony...sigh.... It's very easy to understand. I'll explain again.....Teacher's work together in unions to protect their interests, collective bargaining....they're not "gangs". If you trash their union, you attack them, Man up and face those you accuse--teachers. You're splitting hairs.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral
whats in for the kids ? does the teaching improve / does it get better when the teacher earns more or has better benefits or do they still teach the same "value" each year as before ? so again, whats in for the kids ?
Hoschi0913 4 months ago
@Hoschi0913
So, your argument is that paying teachers LESS is going to improve our student's education? Really.
Typically, teachers will take the assignment with the best pay, benefits, upward mobility, and accessibility UNLESS, the school or district in question has a history of discipline issues or lack of support. Then, they will weigh the costs and benefits and make the best choice based on the relative merits. Pay teachers well and reap the benefits nationwide.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral
thats not what i said nor meant,my question is what is in for the kids? i assume thats why someone chooses to be a teacher and yes iam well aware of that even teachers look or have to look out where they can get the best pay,like in any other job,my point is...if you are a good Teacher and the kids entrusted to you do very well in any test,you deserve a better pay,if not you dont,but to claim because you teach you deserve it ...aint gonna fly with me,cuz the kids are my focus
Hoschi0913 4 months ago
@Hoschi0913
Borrowing your phrase, "What's in it for the kids?" It's to the kids benefit to have highly trained teachers, with advanced degrees, (Masters, PhD's). It's "in it for the kids" to have world class educators, which means greater success in school. By inference, you are suggesting we need the best teachers for our kids and I agree, and we need to pay them commensurate to the investment in their training.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral
i agree we need highly skilled Teachers,but NOT teachers that are "just" highly payed,high pay and best healthcare/pension doesnt mean highly skilled,btw no one every payed me back for my training,it is on my shoulders and no i do not expect someone else to pay that bill for me,as you suggest we should do for the teachers (at least that how it sounds to me),so in the end i do not believe that the kids are better of with a high payed Teacher compared to one that puts kids first
Hoschi0913 4 months ago
He is talking like a arrogant asshole. How about he work for minimum wage?
pushycatpops 4 months ago
@pushycatpops what would that change? teachers dont work for minimum wage
rigatony019 4 months ago
@pushycatpops teacher's dont work for minimum wage. in fact, they get three months vacation. hell, id take a nice vacation for a pay cut
mazer2015 4 months ago
@mazer2015 how about starting tomorrow we cut your salary 18% and pass that money on to say Wal mart so they can create more jobs? hell, go take it then if its so great.
pushycatpops 4 months ago
@mazer2015
50K on avg. in NJ and 3 month vacation pluse full healthcare for life ,hell i would take that "crappy job" anytime
Hoschi0913 4 months ago
@Hoschi0913
not a 3 month vacation.anyone who thinks that doesn't know.many of those "days off" r spent correcting papers &planning lessons.spread the 70 hr wks out over 52 weeks &teachers work more than the private sector. I know, I left teaching &have more time off w/my 3.5 wks off then I did when I taught. I was constantly tired &had no energy left for family when I got home. Now we enjoy our evening meals together & weekends because I didn't bring work home! And I make mega bucks more!
HeIsNothingButABully 3 months ago
@HeIsNothingButABully Give me a break, lesson plans are pretty much the same year after year. Sure maybe you have to tweak one a little bit but not enough to waste more than a couple days of your precious 3 month vacation.
bdbttle151 3 months ago
@bdbttle151
u must know, right? I'm not a teacher, but I know the curriculum changes every other yr- they hire curriculum folks & to justify a high salary, they keep change the curriculum& HOW teachers should teach causing plan changes. U get different classes at different levels & mandates that come out every yr of teachers.Get out a calendar, because many schools in NJ ended last yr around the June 28th&start Sept 2. 3 mos?Those against teachers always seem to exaggerate. u r no exception.
HeIsNothingButABully 3 months ago
@mazer2015
Teachers don't get paid for the kids' summer vacations. Also, most teachers I know have to work summers to make ends meet. I'm sure most teachers would rather teach year round to make more money, but only schools in well to do areas can afford year around sessions.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral are you serious? teachers get paid on salary so how can you say they dont get paid for the summer off? they have to option to get their salary split up for the 9 months school is in session or the full 12 month year... its the same amount of money regardless... and they have to work year round to make ends meet! ooooh noooo! do you have to work year round? do i have to work year round? does EVERYBODY have to work year round!?
rigatony019 4 months ago
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Dystral 4 months ago
saying i cant tell if youre simple minded or not isnt calling you simple minded, its just acknowleding that it is a very real possibility but its currently tbd. another straw-man. im not certain you know how a union works, there are officials who are NOT teachers. they also make in excess of half a million anually. I think an average of 40-50 some thousand a year is enough to live on... i also dont pity anyone for the simple fact that they need to work year round like the rest of us.
rigatony019 4 months ago
@rigatony019
I find it ironic that you are calling me simple minded and yet you lack elementary writing skills --the pot calling the kettle black--look it up:) I'll resist the urge to correct your spelling and grammar:) You're making sweeping generalizations about the exorbitant pay you're saying union reps make. In my state, teachers are elected to union leadership roles and receive no pay. Office staff and support workers make a salary. Also, most teachers WANT to work year round!
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral its a youtube comment, not a dissertation.Your state is not the state in question. Christie represents a state in which the head of the teachers union does in fact make in excess of a half million a year.
rigatony019 4 months ago
@rigatony019
If you stoop to name calling, at least support your self-professed superiority by demonstrating a knowledge of basic writing skills. However, I'm happy to see that you have accepted that not all unions are the evil boogeymen as originally cast. Assuming that you are correct about the pay of NJ's leadership, I agree that is too much and should be based on student and teacher success. Christie should be held to the same standard.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral well, at least theortically Christie is held to a higher standard: he fails, he doesn't get reelected. No tenure in that job of his.
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Dystral 4 months ago
@rigatony019
Thanks, rigatony, you've made my point for me:) It's the same pay across the board, for the days the teacher is contracted to work.-not the full year. So, if the pay is not enough to make ends meet, which is typically the case for teachers, then a second job is required. In countries like South Korea and Finland, all teachers have advanced degrees and great pay compared to the USA. If we want a world class educational system, we need to adequately fund it.
Dystral 4 months ago
so his solution is lower taxes xD ..where have i heard this before? if you want a real president i suggest you take a look at Ron Paul. he's the most republican out of all the candidates. gtfo of other countries buisness time to focus on our problems! dammit vote for Ron paul if you want a president who won't bend over to big companies. PLS for the sake of America vote a president who you know will do the things he says and not change his views mid presidency
beergo99les 5 months ago
He says it as it is - a rare breed amongst politicians.
azadvichar 5 months ago
LARDO IN 2012...TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH & DONUTS FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 5 months ago
Chris Christie ROCKS! He even resembles Elvis a little!
79goldmaster1 5 months ago 2
@79goldmaster1
Yea, Elvis without the talent, AND wearing a 300lb body suit!
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral Don't Be Cruel
79goldmaster1 4 months ago
@79goldmaster1
I guess you don't mean the song---a good one:) I don't mean to be cruel, but as a public servant, he is a role model and should model good eating and fitness habits. Lord knows we already have an obesity epidemic in this country.
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral Maybe his wife is one hell of a good cook!
79goldmaster1 4 months ago
@79goldmaster1
lol:) ....I heard that he set up office at the local McDonalds and has daily BIG MAC attacks!
Dystral 4 months ago
@Dystral That's funny but not out of disrepect I also heard he always supersizes his value meals.
79goldmaster1 4 months ago
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People who live off welfare can all go to hell!
KnightxxArrow 5 months ago
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This guy's a real son of a bitch isnt he? that's all this guy does is complain and tell us about his sob stories "this is the crap I have to hear"
this isnt what we pay our elected representatives for. raise revenue fathead! raise revenue for your state and while youre at it, bring in a few hundred thousand jobs to the state
JOBS, not sob stories. this guy's going nowhere believe me
Piglatinsuperstar 5 months ago
Christie for President!
Hartatttack420 5 months ago 23
check out chris chrities pants website
chrischristiespants 5 months ago
KANYE WEST = ASSHOLE
LaLaGrunge 5 months ago 9
major tool
johnxavierie 5 months ago
@johnxavierie
You're a tool.
TheAdjundantReflex 5 months ago
Education bad, retiree benefits bad, CORPORATE WELFARE GOOD. Gov. Christie
ruppertknickerbocker 5 months ago
@ruppertknickerbocker Fully full of shit, you.
Edubbplate 5 months ago
LARDO IN 2012...DONUTS FOR EVERYBODY!!
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 5 months ago
I don't care how mouthy Christie gets, he's too socially liberal for me. I've had enough liberalism for one lifetime.
My #1 choice will Herman Cain, if the polls look like he can win the primary. I don't want Romney, since he is covering up his love for universal, socialized healthcare. I will vote for another slow talkin' Texan before I will Romney.
The Hermanator 2012!!
11aah 5 months ago
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"Crawl back to the trailer park you came from you could not spell cat if they gave you the c and t, typical evangelical republican teabagging illiterate redneck"
A desperate cry for attention, or the result of willingful ignorance and spread of hate-speech by mainstream media outlets...
Both?
AlaroxR 5 months ago
If Christie is not going to abolish the Federal Reserve, than he can stay home and should endorse Ron Paul.
MichaelBoryAlis 5 months ago
The problem with having the workers contribute one cent to their health care is that it will tun into 2, then 3, then etc. The way the system is set up we have no idea what the true cost of medical is, the insurance companies take a $100 charge negotiate it to $50, pay $30 and stick you with 40% of the bill. The only way to keep from being the victim of a cost shifting shell game is to have single payer health care.
Zyworski 5 months ago
@Zyworski
Yeah, then we will be the victims of a care-rationing, waiting-list-plagued, innovation crushing, corrupt, bankrupt, money-sucking bureaucracy, where faceless panels of bureaucrats decide who gets what health care and who doesn't---and there is NO APPEAL and NOWHERE ELSE TO TURN for medical help.
Sure, that will be great. Let's hand our heath care over to the people who run the Department of Motor Vehicles.
Fucking moron.
UncleIrv 5 months ago
@UncleIrv care-rationing, what do you think HMO's do? waiting-list-plagued, the greatest fear we ALL have with socialized medicine is the system abuser, so a little waiting as a disincentive is not all bad. innovation crushing, the only innovation we have now is exclusion clauses to raise corporate profits, if you can name another form of innovation feel free to speak up. money-sucking bureaucracy, sounds like your describing an HMO again. Here is one you didn't think of, billing standardization
Zyworski 5 months ago
@Zyworski
Ahhh, you leftists do love your logical fallacies.
For example, the FALSE DICHOTOMY: Beginning with the premise that the only two options are the STATUS QUO or a system that is EVEN MORE crippled with statist cluster-fuck. Opposing Idiocy does not make one a supporter of dumbness.
And the old standby: Simply living in an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE that bears no resemblance to that in which most of us reside. Where I live, virtually ALL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES of the last century were US led.
UncleIrv 5 months ago
@UncleIrv republican teabagging turd talking about technological advancements LOl look at idiots running for president for republicans, rick perry who wants to teach BS creationism in schools which will make s the laughingstock of the world, bachman not even going waste my time. Republicans= brain dead teabagging evangelical morons who believe in adam and eve and the universe is only 10.000 years old and men walked on earth with dinosaurs
jers59 5 months ago
@jers59
You must be a farmer, because you sure are good at building straw men.
I am a teacher of physics. I have a greater command of science than you have of of fucking your cousin, you inbred hate-mongering moron. Sorry, but your liberal-fascist propaganda bullshit talking points will not work on educated people.
UncleIrv 5 months ago
@UncleIrv Crawl back to the trailer park you came from you could not spell cat if they gave you the c and t, typical evangelical republican teabagging illiterate redneck
jers59 5 months ago
@UncleIrv You suffer from the mistaken perception that I support Obama care when nothing could be further from the truth. The paramount reform of healthcare that I seek is standardization of billing, have you looked into your doctors back office and noticed the army of staff he has to keep so they can all figure out the various insurance policies and forms. I come to the table with fresh ideas that encourage competition and the free market, but damned they only give me 500 characters to tell yo
Zyworski 5 months ago
@Zyworski
Ahhh. Well since I do not know the details of how this "standardization" would work, it's impossible for me to comment. But I will predict with 100% certainty that if this "standardization" is IMPOSED BY GOVERNMENT then it will become as corrupted by corporatist cronyism as the current "shell game" you lament.
See, I did not label you wrong, because you began by praising a "single payer" system. This means ELITIST IMPOSITION rather than MARKET FORCES. That's the wrong direction.
UncleIrv 5 months ago
@UncleIrv Socialized medicine has worked well for many countries and it doesn't upset me at all, but here is what comes out of the Republican side of my brain. Take just a hand full of preexisting policies that are decent money makers and make them the only policies (and forms) that all insurance companies can offer, that way they all must compete of price, quality, and innovation alone. this is my exclusive idea and is a hybridization of free but limited market. What do you think?
Zyworski 5 months ago
@Zyworski
Socialized medicine has worked well for WHO? The people who died on waiting lists? I understand you MEAN WELL, but this does not excuse the fact that statism is destructive.
Europe has the LUXURY of abusing their populations with socialized medicine for the same reason they have the luxury of not paying for a standing army---WE PROVIDE WHAT'S MISSING. Do you think it's a COINCIDENCE that nearly all medical innovation originates in the US?
LIMITING competition does not MAXIMIZE it.
UncleIrv 5 months ago
@UncleIrv I prefer to use the word focusing competition into areas that meet the needs of the consumer and not the corporation. Since you have asked which countries are doing well with socialized medicine here are a few, Canada, Australia, Germany, (and we all know what a rough time they are having financing the rest of Europe) Finland, and Israel to name a few. On statistical measures of health and medical outcomes many of these countries rate higher than the US.
Zyworski 5 months ago
@UncleIrv While we are on the subject of innovation I should point out that you suffer from a severe deficit of constructive ideas. The status quo is clearly unacceptable as costs are rising at an unsustainable rate, and this has nothing to do with military spending whatsoever. As a matter of fact many of the countries with socialized medicine have superior outcomes for their patients at a lower cost. The US leads the world in clinical citations, but being the 3rd biggest that is expected.
Zyworski 5 months ago
@Zyworski
Deficit of Ideas? Ridiculous. What good are ideas that DO NOT WORK and have proven themselves so, repeatedly? The solution is clear: Reinstate market incentives to drive down prices. Eliminate corporatist meddling. This has not been tried in the post-FDR age!
Again, it is a FALSE DICHOTOMY to infer that the only options are either the status quo or EVEN MORE corporatist meddling by government.
These stories about "superior outcomes" are leftist propaganda. TALK TO THE PEOPLE.
UncleIrv 5 months ago
@UncleIrv well that's what I like about my idea, the government just defines the market using preexisting policies that are known to work and then steps back and lets the market take over. The way it is now, some of the coverage offered is so paper thin it is unfit for the purpose for which it was created. We are never going to see eye to eye on the big picture so let's focus on some of the small stuff. Can we agree that price is set by the market force of supply and demand?
Zyworski 5 months ago
@Zyworski
Okay, we''ll dissect "your idea"...
First, explain exactly WHY we need the government to "define the market"? See, this illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding of market economies. Markets, by definition, do a fine job of DEFINING THEMSELVES.
Some coverage is "paper thin"? See, this is presumptuous elitism. How do you know that there isn't a MARKET for paper thin coverage (i.e., catastrophic only coverage)? In fact, there is! but bureaucrats NARROW THE CHOICES for consumers.
UncleIrv 5 months ago
@UncleIrv In today's market most consumers don't have any idea what they are getting, insurance policies can't be compared one to another with all the exemptions, exclusions, and non liability clauses. By making a limited number of policies available consumers will be able to compare coverage head to head. Contractual innovation and medical innovation are two different things, we want medical innovation, but contractual innovation is just a way of not covering someone. Supply and demand later.
Zyworski 5 months ago
Who is the good looking black lady on the right?
curtisjones400 5 months ago
Read Summerhill by A.S. Neil if you want true revolution in the realm of education.
MrBeautifulba1 6 months ago
if he's willing to give up that 150k a year spending account he gets on top of his salary then he'd have the right to ask other state employees to sacrifice otherwise where does he get balls asking others to sacrifice when he himself is not willing to do so
antman08015 6 months ago
@antman08015 omg it's 1.5% can you cry anymore .. and how do you know he didn't take a pay cut ding dong ... look something up before you Faceroll ya self
SupaNami 5 months ago
@antman08015 Oh get over it.....he has a job to do and he is grabbing the bull by the horns and doing it. These teacher's can make a small sacrifice and if they don't like it they can do something else. These Union's are holding this Nation hostage with all their rhetoric and threats....
royaldice75 5 months ago
@antman08015 Oh get over it.....he has a job to do and he is grabbing the bull by the horns and doing it. These teacher's can make a small sacrifice and if they don't like it they can do something else. These Union's are holding this Nation hostage with all their rhetoric and threats....
royaldice75 5 months ago 20
@royaldice75 Without teachers who will educate the nations youth? Teachers are necessary, and teachers shouldn't have to put up with poor pay and a lack of benefits, teachers play a vital role in the educational system and they shouldn't be paid poorly for choosing to educate the youth. Also, without unions workers would be getting paid only a few dollars an hour and could be fired just for getting sick and being unable to work. Unions protect the average workers rights and are good for America.
polishguy994 4 months ago