Senator Joe Lieberman

[jbster7777]

This crooked fuck made Amazon remove the mirrors which supported Wikileaks on-line. This bastard needs to meet up with a loan gun man before he destroys free speech on the internet. Whoever voted for this corrupted asshole has to make amends and get him out of office. You also have to confront him and bombard him with questions like he has no party loyalty and why he is against free speech. I despises this man!

[eldoradoreefgold]

senator lieberman finally shows his political party affiliation by starring as senator palpatine....of the sith!

[kenzo5716]

Zionist agent Liebermannnnn is already demanding that Obama send war planes to bomb Iran for Israel.

[deefirst]

AL FRANKEN HAS SHUT JOE DOWN!!

[jbugko]

I think what Lieberman is focused on is what the GOP is focused on:

Grandstand

Opposing

&

Preventing

[jbugko]

if people around him have changed, does that mean that his staff salaries have been willing to take a bit of a pay cut in the name of fiscal prudence?

If Lieberman wanted to practice fiscal prudence, he would tone down his staff salaries which are higher than the average. ie $2,656,223 spent last year in his staff salaries for 2008 on top of his own salary.

[jbugko]

If people around him have changed, does that mean that his wife is no longer a senior counselor to Hill & Knowlton which is one of the world's biggest lobbying firms for the health care industry.

Guess not.

[tekatetikitiki]

I cant belive this caricature(Lieberman)has millions of uninsured Americans as HOSTAGES!! He just said: I wont supporta a public option or a plan that triggers one.I cant believe Americans dont wake up to this: Why dou elect these kind of people? Dont pay attention to me. Go to Wikipedia & find for urself the cultural background & origins of this man;Please, WAKE UP.The fact tha hesborn in U.S.A. or claims to be a patriot doesnt mean he really is an American.

[DERBYCLOWN]

Read all about it!

Health insurance giant Aetna plans to raise consumer insurance prices and push up to 650,000 clients to give up their health coverage next year, as it seeks to increase revenues to meet projected profit margins.

[The6000Sabre]

Yes MediCARE does not cover dental.

MediCAID does cover dental if you are fortunate to find a dentist who will work for MediCAID rates which are very low.

[The6000Sabre]

So one has to pay into Medicare Part A all of ones working life. Then when retired pay additional premiums for Medicare Part B. Then pay even more additional premiums for private medi-gap supplemental insurance. And do all this on a $700.00 Social Security check? Are you insane?

PS I was just banned by this channel I was talking to you on. Shows you what open minds the Left Wing has.

[The6000Sabre]

You were satisfied with Ma Bell because you knew no better. Before the breakup, long distance phone calls were sent either copper cable or microwave ground to ground station. And long distance was very expensive.

After the breakup, innovation allowed fiber optic and ground to satellite service anywhere in the world. Without this technology you wouldn't be able to have internet, email service or cellphone service

As for your private insurance bureaucrat. Government has bureaucrats on steroids.

[The6000Sabre]

Blogger are fucking douchebags who want a free ride in life all on the taxpayer's dime.

GET A JOB AND A LIFE and move out of your mother's basement you lazy masturbating worthless fucks. But first LEARN TO SHOWER, REGULARLY!!!!

[funkyflights]

Your a typical republican who attacks and spreads lies to avoid the issue.... health care is KILLING this great country of ours and the system cannot sustain it's current direction... This greedy pig of a system has NOTHING to do with bloggers or people who are not working... MANY MANY hard working Americans are losing everything they've worked hard for because they get sick... fuck that and fuck you ...

[The6000Sabre]

And I suppose you think the Public (government) Option is going to solve all your health related problems? MediCARE only pays 70%-80% of medical costs and is near insolvency. Democrats will cut $500 million out of it. MediCAID reimburses doctors & hospitals cents on the dollar is bankrupting nearly every state. VA care is far from up to par. The gov. couldn't handle Katrina or run Amtrak or the PO but you want their health care? Then you say fuck me, well you are the real fuck hat here.

[funkyflights]

Amazing you say Medicare doesn't pay when all I see around me is friends and family on medicare who LOVE IT... NEVER have they been denied care ... OH but lets look at private insurance ... 3 friends and 1 family member denied payment because it's labeled either experimental OR a pre existing condition.... and I know the government couldn't handle Katrina because Bush was in office and the republican goonies who only favor the rich ...

[The6000Sabre]

Maybe you'll like Medicaid too, then.

See the Reform calculator:

h t t p :// healthreform. kff. org /SubsidyCalculator. aspx

[TheAfroQween]

Medicare denies care for lots of different issues for ex. ppl cannot get their teeth cleaned and have it covered by medicare= elders NOR children- tooth decay and gum disease is one of the LEADING causes, gone untreated, that lead to heart disease which leads to organ issues= kidney,liver, bladder issues. All because dental treatment = PREVENTATIVE treatment = BI ANNUAL cleaning(every 6 mos.) is NOT covered by medicare. the ppl u know must not have any teeth.

[funkyflights]

Health care cannot sustain itself in the private market ... it cant and it wont... simply because sick people cost more money and will be discriminated against or premiums for those people will be like a DUI driver with 100 tickets getting car insurance...... figure it out ...

[The6000Sabre]

Actually a driver with a DUI or other moving violation convictions must pay higher auto insurance premiums. He should pay higher health care premiums too, IMHO.

But that same driver causes insurance premiums to go up for all of us to a degree.

[funkyflights]

Well I would vote yes to that.... unfortunately people with pre existing conditions didn't ask for it and certainly didn't choose it... wasn't a choice for them.... no reason they should be punished for something they had no choice over...

[The6000Sabre]

true

[DERBYCLOWN]

Hey, I'm a Taxpayer & resent your "Labeling". I could say all kinds of negative stereotypes about your position too. This is a serious stituation. My cost of Healthcare have gone skyhigh. I travel to Mexico for some Meds. I have Health Ins & argue w/ Jonathan in India for my Med Ins benefits..etc... Please drop the free market Dogma. Liberman has obviously been paid off w/ our Insurance premiums thru Health Ins lobbyists. This should piss u off even if are against health reform.

[The6000Sabre]

So what exactly do you think you are going to get from Obama Care?

If you earn over $14,400. single or $29.000. family of 4 you will be forced by law to purchase health insurance. There is a sliding scale of subsidization (vouchers) up to a certain income lever.

Below the $14,400/ $29,000 income threshold. You will be automatically enrolled into Medicaid. Also the so called "Public Option" is also Medicaid. Not Medicare but Medicaid.

As for Lieberman, he is no more paid off than the rest.

[DERBYCLOWN]

The 6000, I'm 4 Single payer but will accept a strong Public option & I'd even pay to buy into Medicare.

Check out Rep. Weiners thoughts & agruments on the stituation. I will not debate the issue its too exhausing & time consuming & b 4 u say it, yes I'm terrified 2 debate the issue because I know I can't win.

[The6000Sabre]

It is NOT Medicare!!!!!!!!!

It is Medicaid. There is a major difference between the two programs. Medicare is for the elderly and permanently disabled.

Medicaid is welfare for the indigent.

[The6000Sabre]

PLEASE view the link is sent you. And learn the difference between Medicare and Medicaid.

Most doctors won't accept Medicaid as it's reimbursement rates are extremely low. Only a few cents on the dollar.

[DERBYCLOWN]

Please check out Rep Weiners thoughts on the subject.

[The6000Sabre]

Weiner is a NYC communist jerk

[DERBYCLOWN]

The 6000, Name calling doesn't win u support . U want to argue against him fine come up w/ somethink real.

[The6000Sabre]

OK, I'm sorry I called him a jerk. But he's still a communist and that's not name calling. Because he is a communist.

[DERBYCLOWN]

I have found that people tend to throw around terms like Fascist, Socialist, Communist, Nazi..etc... The6000, I could say ur a Ultra Right Wing Extremist Liberatarian or something like that but would that be fair? Lets just debate the issues & forget the labling. I myself seek solutions that solve the problem I don't get stuck on political dogma.

I also feel the same about religion, once dogma is in place discussion & solutions end.

[The6000Sabre]

I don't know about "ultra" or "extremist". But calling me right wing, OK I'll except that.

But its's not name calling to point out when. someone is a communist or some other such. Look as may of Obama's czars, appointees and associates. They quote Mao in a positive way. Birds of a feather, you know!

[DERBYCLOWN]

The6000, I fully support Weiner's Healthplan & I am NOT a Communist. I have my own Business & I have no problem w/ Capitalism but I do have a problem w/ Corporatocracy which is Evil & thats what our Healthcare Insurance system is.

It isn't serving the best interests of the people. I for one am paying absurd amounts for my Healthplan, every year it goes up & I receive less..etc. Its unsustainable, illogical & unfair.

[The6000Sabre]

Weiner and other in the far left of the Democrat party are for what is called euphemistically: Single payer health care; Universal health care; National health care. but is actually Socialized Medicine. Which means a Government monopoly controlling every aspect of your health and life. A one size fits all health scheme. Strange, many once despised AT&T Ma Bell when it was a monopoly. And still despise the power company monopoly, and other big monopolies. But now they want Health Care Monopoly?

[TheAfroQween]

What you are describing is MEDICARE which is what we have now- the proposed bill is to improve upon what we have now- which will give insurance co.'s more of a competition which will force them to lower their premiums and give more low- income families a chance to actually get their teeth CLEANED vs. JUST CHECKED for ex. the new bill proposes more FLEXIBILITY and OVERALL acceptance of any illness no matter if its pre existing or not. The bill proposes the OPPOSITE of controlling health care.

[The6000Sabre]

Are you A_B_O_L_U_T_E_L_Y 100% proof positive sure of this??

[TheAfroQween]

I don't need proof I worked in the med. field for over 10 yrs - and I've seen ppl not rec' treatment for things medicare did not cover and they couldn't afford private ins. for simple things that can cause long term damage if its not treated ie DENTAL CAVITIES, GUM DISEASE that all can be avoided with PREVENTATIVE treatemnt. IE = DENTAL CLEANING/ 6 MOS. So 2 ans. your ? YES I AM SURE PROOF POSITIVE OF THIS-

[The6000Sabre]

I'm not a medical person. But I believe there is a bit more to medicine than having a tooth cavity filled.

But again! I'm not a medical person. So you'll have to take what I said with a grain of salt. Not sugar which can cause tooth decay, but a grain of salt.

[TheAfroQween]

cavities and gum disease are two of the main reasons ppl have heart issues, blood pressure issues, bladder, kidney (dialysis) because of untreated dental decay and PREVENTATIVE MEASURES= dental cleanings every six months of which MEDICAID/MEDICARE DOES NOT COVER CURRENTLY- not even a portion of the treatment- not to mention OPTICAL care, screenings and check ups for the elderly or the children that have serious issues = glaucoma. I am a med. person and it is VERY simple.

[TheAfroQween]

I was a former REGISTERED BSN specializing in critical care NICU & trauma and er as well as pediatrics and skilled care for the elderly- so simply having a tooth filled cleaned and treated BEFORE decay can prevent a lot of pre existing conditions that MEDICARE/MEDICAIDE AND private ins. don't cover, won't cover or over charge for.

[The6000Sabre]

Dental car is fine. But this issue is about life saving medicine

[The6000Sabre]

[dental care]

[TheAfroQween]

which also isnt fully covered by Medicare OR Medicaid- its all still about HCR- wtf are you talking about 'life saving medicine' isn't medication part of medical care and the OVERLY high cost of medication? Which is ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO FIX HERE- Proper dental care,optical care as well as over all care is called PRACTICING AND PROVIDING AND REC AFFORDABLE life saving medicine... smh

[The6000Sabre]

Let's not forget. Elected officials work for us. We pay their salaries. We decide if they will remain in office or not. It's not the other way around. We not only have the right to criticize their actions. We have an obligation to do so and often.

[DERBYCLOWN]

The 6000, I fully agree about elected official that work 4 us

[The6000Sabre]

Remember the old days AT&T (Ma Bell) ruled the telecommunications roost in the US?

Your only choice was a wall phone or desk phone. Available in 5 colors. They charged extra for a color other than black. You couldn't buy your own phone. No cordless phones, no fax machines, no answering machines, no wireless phones unless you were a millionaire. It was illegal to hook up a non At&T device up to their system. No computer modems allowed. No innovation. No competition.

That's MONOPOLY for you!

[DERBYCLOWN]

The6000, I was actually happy w/ Ma Bell & do not believe the break up caused all the inovation but thats another story & one I don't need to debate. Right now my Healthcare is being controled by a bureaucrat who tells me what they will do or won't do. Right now I'm waiting for a Medical treatment to be okayed. My MD IS WAITING FOR PERMISSION FROM A BUREAUCRAT!

Sorry but I'd take Universal Healthcare in 2 seconds compared 2 the B.S. I have now!

[The6000Sabre]

Medicare is a universal health care for the elderly. Don't tell me there is no BS there. My mother was denied healthcare because Medicare refused to pay for certain procedures and only covered a certain percentage of other health services. So she had to take out a reverse mortgage on her house to pay what Medicare refused to pay. When she died the mortgage company took the house. So you are talking from fucking ignorance. I know the story too well! Don't tell me about fucking politician's BS

[DERBYCLOWN]

The6000, 1. There are countless TV Commericals for supplement insurance policies which cover what Medicare doesn't this is common knowledge.

2. I appreciate your anger about your Grandmother now you know what millions of Americans go thru w/ Private Insurance companies.

[The6000Sabre]

Why should one have to pay ones entire working life into Medicare Part A then also pay Medicare Part B premiums when retired and still have to purchase additional private supplemental insurance and do all that on a $750.00 a month Social Security check. Are you out of your mind?

[The6000Sabre]

So one has to pay into Medicaid Part A all ones working life. Then when retired pay additional premiums for Medicare Part B. Which only covers 75% of costs. Then have to purchase additional private supplemental insurance. And an elderly person should pay all this out of a $750.00 a month Social Security check?

You have to be out of your mind!!!!

[The6000Sabre]

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[The6000Sabre]

So one has to pay into Medicare Part A all of ones working life. Then when retired pay additional premiums for Medicare Part B. Then pay even more additional premiums for private medi-gap supplemental insurance. And do all this on a $700.00 Social Security check? Are you insane?

[The6000Sabre]

I just sent you a PM on this issue.

[The6000Sabre]

I would ask everyone to Google (search engine):

KAISER HEALTH CARE SUBSIDY CALCULATOR

This will give you a fairly accurate idea of what Obama Care will cost you and your family.

[OrmEmber]

Lieberman tells a direct lie at 1:32; he says there is "an ant-trust law there" to prevent insurance companies from becoming too dominant. Guess what? Insurance companies are EXEMPT from anti-trust laws, and he knows it. You can thank Congress for that exemption. Some in Congress now want to repeal that exemption. Guess who is fighting it? Insurance companies, of course, Republicans and....you guessed it....

Joe Lieberman.

[Pack6Joe]

Wait. So does he think that the public option will NOT lead to lower cost? Notice he could not articulate how having the taxpayer pay for it is different than what is happening now. The interviewer said the difference is that now the taxpayer is paying MORE. Joe did not dispute and sort of nodded in agreement then change the subject to regulation.

[fpm229]

This is one slimy piece of shit.

[funkyflights]

Lieberman is selling us out .... he just openly admitted 47 millions Americans dont have insurance BUT YET he's not in favor of the public option which would COVER more people... WTF is wrong with these guys... why are they always on the side of the private insurance companies ? OH WAIT... there receiving pay checks from them I forgot....

[BablyonsKing]

Too frigin bad nobody took this little frigin imp to the garbage can and shit on his ugly god damn face...hey god stick this piece of shit up your ass.

[moe8903]

Love how he says government paying for it at 1:03 and tax payers paying for it. WE can use our tax dollars to pay for israel but not health care is that not just great. I have a fing brain tumor cant get health care but my taxes can pay for israel awesome right.

[bart11114]

"I haven't changed. people around me have changed." *fake cough* BULLSHIT!

[yawakoben]

HE LIES! Health insurance companies are exempt from anti-trust laws.

[reffohtrig]

is it not his job to do what the people of his state elected him to do? if 65% of them want it,( which I think it said) why would he not vote 4 what they want?

[charlieo119]

Sen. Lieberman is a class act. Having emailed him in the past, I can attest that his office will respond within 24 hours, whereas Dodd took about 2 months and, in the end, it was amazingly similar to Lieberman's response. Whether or not you liked his answer, he, at least, took the time to talk to you, when many other senators would not. With that said, I am watching how he votes on the issues and will not vote for him again if he votes "yes" on the public option or cap and trade.

[afannell]

How about giving Olympia Snowe and you can have Joe Loserman.