so funny....just like pavlov's dog some pseudo scientists say the sky is falling and the fluoridated zombi's start foaming at the mouth with fear. This is what happens in a Godless civilization. Believe it or not their is a power at work who created this universe ,IT is maintaining this creation and is in full control .....and it insn't you.Quit worrying about things you have NO POWER over, develop your own consciousness, practice self realization, and stop being fearful.
When did he say that we should kill humans, his point was very simple if we do not control our population, nature will control it by famine or disease, etc and we will not have a say in it. To me it seems preferable to control population voluntarily without imposing any restrictions then allow population to keep growing and fight wars in future over limited resources.
This man is obviously a murderer, yet hasnt the nerve or stomach to pull the trigger so he indoctrinates young minds to believe that killing and genocide is good and should play a part in a sane society. If men cannot sustain themselves they will surely die by natural means and this is called life, when we presuppose that men cannot sustain themselves and kill them, this is called murder. If you would like to voluntarily depart from this life you can do so freely
@Spurgeon123 We can as cultures decide not to have so many children without the need to poison and kill... but we need to act in a positive way or there will be no choice later.
I hate to break it to you guys, but modern Western nations with relatively low population growth are a much bigger part of the environmental problem than fast growing populations of poor nations. Americans, e.g. use many times more resources per person than people in 3rd world countries.
See any relation between Dr Simon and the republican peak oil deniers, climate change deniers, stem cell research deniers, evolution deniers, dinosaur deniers, anti-intellect Terry Schiavo crazies, rapture ready republicans, birth control deniers. The official recession will be declared in 09 if Obama gets in & will be ignored successfully like it is now if McCain gets in. Climate change was ignored because Bush did not want the expense of energy efficiency on his watch.
Well the Western World has low population growth and in some nations negative population growth. But like idiots trapped in a growth machine we IMPORT people from Third World countries to make up for the children we didn't have. Why? To support socialism. That's right socialism, something that is a long proven failure. Our downfall.
I just read in USAToday, the USA population will be at one billion people by the year 2100. Since we have a higher fertility, birth, and immigration rate compared to that of Europe and elsewhere, it is believable. We've got the area geographically to support 1 billion people, but what I do questions is our resources for such a massive population--- jobs, healthcare, education, food, transportation, etc.
Think of any animal population that grows out of control. Take away the predators and they multiply until an unsustainable population is reached. Then either disease or scaricity will correct the situation, just like rabbits when the fox's are killed off. We are not superior.
To YragQuillo: the USA fertility rate is very high, which replaces the death rate of people who die every year. Additionally, the USA is fater growing than Europe and Russia. And that is because of a high fertility rate.
American natives maintained a below-replacement-level fertility rate, immigrant fertility was at a similar rate to the U.S. Baby Boom fertility of the 1950s.
The immigration tidal wave of the last three decades has made it impossible for Baby Boomers to ever enjoy the 1970s dream of a stabilized country — even if all immigration were stopped tomorrow. The Census Bureau states that if immigration were reduced to replacement level, the United States population would still be growing at the end of the century because of the momentum created by the last three decades of immigration
thanks bill gates and other lobbists and illegals not American natives
Read "America Alone" by Mark Steyn. Mark also likes math and shows that Europe as we know it will become extinct by mid-century. Europe will be ruled by Islam and it's a mathematical certainty. Socialism is not only unsustainable it's actually suicidal. An according to Steyn it's already to late. Thus America will become the last Western culture on earth - hence the book title "America Alone"
Maybe you should read the book before you call it crap. It's very well researched. The idea that Muslims are going to stop having children, accept European secular culture in contradiction to their religion is fantasy. Typical leftist utopian wishful thinking. Native Europeans are halving their population with each generation, Muslims there are having six children per generation on average. Even if they abandon socialism NOW 2050 at the LATEST is all the time they have. They need to wake up.
I'm calling Steyn & his book crap. Consider what will happen in Europe when peak oil, climate change and the credit crises runs it's coarse. Unemployment maybe? Rioting? End of socialism. I'm reading "While Europe Slept" by Bruce Bawer. I would read anyone but Steyn. Bawer is conservative and I disagree with him but he will give me more reason than hysteria which is what Steyn is noted for. I don't even care if Steyn thinks PO and CC will happen because it will happen with or w/o him.
I recently watched some recent video of Haiti. Riots, foot shortages, etc. I visited there in the early 80's and loved it. Very nice people though very poor. Now it's anarchy. Signs of things to come.
And what was the response of the Haitian government? Normal short-sighted stupidity: putting price controls on rice. This may buy a week of peace, at the long-term price of robbing farmers of the fruits of their labour, and therefore incentive to be productive.
"Yellow", black, white are stable or declining. Problem is the brown race in both the Western Hemisphere and Far East. India will surpass China as most populous within 20 years. So if they begin to starve then it is not our problem I suppose. Population has tripled in my family's lifetime and more and more populations are becoming westernized.
Dark ages are coming. May be this is why US is preoccupied with the means to monitor and control domestic populations.
Not "our" problem? Air and water aren't local properties. We're all living in the same damn appartment. The population growth in India already takes away our jobs in the west. It will take away the water and the food also. In the same way as the USA took the away the oil from the majority of the worlds population. Under economical circumstances, the US-farmers will rather sell their grain to India if the retail-price there is better than in the USA.
The reason for overpopulation is the lifestyle human race is leading at the present time.
Exploitation of human and natural resources simply for making profits is the major cause of our problems.
If every human lived in small farming communities, and only small percentage lived in small cities (mostly administration and local services), we would never grow hungry again. Everyone should grow their own food.
The land has been ravaged by over production. Not sure if its unsustainable cash crop production or not. We have an unsustainable world population. Add it up:declining fisheries, declining tropical forests, continual pollution along with a continuous human population growth. Disaster.
Yes, but that's happening bcause humans like to eat meat, which requires too much land being used to feed them. All of that land and grains can be used to feed humans, but each and every meat eater helps this planet keep rotting. Slaughterhouses pollute so immensly that it actually stands right next to the pharmaceuticals and oil companies. Eating meat just because we like the taste of it is one of the most unnatural activities on this planet. Hard to believe, because we're like killing for food
how about we just stop having so many fucking kids. stopping people from eating meat is not going to do shit if we continue to grow at the rate we are. a better idea is not to consume as much of everything. in the u.s along with most other wealthy nations we consume way to much resources because thats what we were taught to do by the media and these large corperations since we were little. if we dont consume as much they dont make as much money so why would they tell us to consume less.
Eating meat means exactly that: consuming too much. please research on google how much it takes to produce one pound of beef, how much water, land, grains and human energy, then you'll see what over-consumption means.
Absolutely right. For 1 kilogram meat you invest 10 to 20 kilograms of plants. In other words, while you are eating a pound of meat you are in fact eating about 5 to 10 kilos of corn. But by doing this, we will help solve the population problem -> Dilemma. The more people starving to death, the better in the long run. Abortion must be legal and common practice everywhere. The sooner the better.
no, i disagree. Education and proper govt. policies should help stabalize population. You can't indirectly purposly let people starve to death or have abortions. But the problem isn't so much in the U.S. it is the other countries.
mycat - why can't you allow this? Especially if other countries have policies within their own culture that don't smooth population growth and reverse those trends (think Africa, Asia), why should we step in and help with money & resources? Let them take care of their own business - eventually population growth WILL stop, as Bartlett says - just a matter of how prepared we are for that inevitability and how many have to needlessly suffer as a result of our shortsightedness.
Thank you ! I have been saying this is the main problem for so long now, and I'm terrible at math. Soon the average of death will be near 100 years old. I would love to hear this dilemma brought up in the Presidential debates!
Cool post Wake, who do you think is the candidate that will curb our population growth? He got one thing wrong in the presentation. About the environmentalists lack of addressing population growth. The reason they don't stress that issue is because they don't want to eliminate the reason for them having jobs :)
I hear less about population growth now then I did 30 years ago. It's gotten buried in all the attendant problems. Now it'd be considered racist since population growth is occurring in the brown race only. (throughout the world) I don't know of any candidate talking population control.
I remember this too, I think It was MIT that calculated that the world would overpopulate by by the 70's and we would all begin to suffer in some fashion.
so funny....just like pavlov's dog some pseudo scientists say the sky is falling and the fluoridated zombi's start foaming at the mouth with fear. This is what happens in a Godless civilization. Believe it or not their is a power at work who created this universe ,IT is maintaining this creation and is in full control .....and it insn't you.Quit worrying about things you have NO POWER over, develop your own consciousness, practice self realization, and stop being fearful.
TheManolakis 1 year ago
Jon and kate plus 8 are killing us!!!! haha adopted if you want 8 kids ADOPT!!!!!
skanky87 1 year ago
Technology is great but it can only buy time. Active population control is something that way must one day consider - if not today.
andrewada 2 years ago
When did he say that we should kill humans, his point was very simple if we do not control our population, nature will control it by famine or disease, etc and we will not have a say in it. To me it seems preferable to control population voluntarily without imposing any restrictions then allow population to keep growing and fight wars in future over limited resources.
SaadUA 2 years ago
This man is obviously a murderer, yet hasnt the nerve or stomach to pull the trigger so he indoctrinates young minds to believe that killing and genocide is good and should play a part in a sane society. If men cannot sustain themselves they will surely die by natural means and this is called life, when we presuppose that men cannot sustain themselves and kill them, this is called murder. If you would like to voluntarily depart from this life you can do so freely
and we shall carry on
Spurgeon123 2 years ago
@Spurgeon123 We can as cultures decide not to have so many children without the need to poison and kill... but we need to act in a positive way or there will be no choice later.
abram730 1 year ago
I hate to break it to you guys, but modern Western nations with relatively low population growth are a much bigger part of the environmental problem than fast growing populations of poor nations. Americans, e.g. use many times more resources per person than people in 3rd world countries.
hurting 2 years ago
I say we cut the balls off of anyone who has a kid lol! One child per couple......if you want more adopt!
samsonality 3 years ago
If people swap kids by adopting multiple children from each other, that doesn't help either.
Kratax 2 years ago
i've got a quick fix, for every 2 people 1 person shall eat the other, that will cut our population in half :D :P
JoshWkendall 3 years ago 2
that means i get to eat you
LcoolJfiveoh 3 years ago
capitalism+growth-smothering.
MorganAnsons 3 years ago
danger0usknowledge 3 years ago
somebody needs to teach this guy how to use a powerpoint slide :) But moving slides every 2 seconds is good exercise!
mycatisromeo 3 years ago
Well the Western World has low population growth and in some nations negative population growth. But like idiots trapped in a growth machine we IMPORT people from Third World countries to make up for the children we didn't have. Why? To support socialism. That's right socialism, something that is a long proven failure. Our downfall.
imikewillrockyou 3 years ago
I just read in USAToday, the USA population will be at one billion people by the year 2100. Since we have a higher fertility, birth, and immigration rate compared to that of Europe and elsewhere, it is believable. We've got the area geographically to support 1 billion people, but what I do questions is our resources for such a massive population--- jobs, healthcare, education, food, transportation, etc.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
Think of any animal population that grows out of control. Take away the predators and they multiply until an unsustainable population is reached. Then either disease or scaricity will correct the situation, just like rabbits when the fox's are killed off. We are not superior.
wake911up 3 years ago 2
american birth rate is flat if you take out illegals, also USA immigration policy is aburd, people like Bill Gates are destroying America
YragQuillo 3 years ago
To YragQuillo: the USA fertility rate is very high, which replaces the death rate of people who die every year. Additionally, the USA is fater growing than Europe and Russia. And that is because of a high fertility rate.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
no you are not exacty right
immigrant fertility rates are high
both illeagal and legal
American natives maintained a below-replacement-level fertility rate, immigrant fertility was at a similar rate to the U.S. Baby Boom fertility of the 1950s.
YragQuillo 3 years ago
The immigration tidal wave of the last three decades has made it impossible for Baby Boomers to ever enjoy the 1970s dream of a stabilized country — even if all immigration were stopped tomorrow. The Census Bureau states that if immigration were reduced to replacement level, the United States population would still be growing at the end of the century because of the momentum created by the last three decades of immigration
thanks bill gates and other lobbists and illegals not American natives
YragQuillo 3 years ago
Read "America Alone" by Mark Steyn. Mark also likes math and shows that Europe as we know it will become extinct by mid-century. Europe will be ruled by Islam and it's a mathematical certainty. Socialism is not only unsustainable it's actually suicidal. An according to Steyn it's already to late. Thus America will become the last Western culture on earth - hence the book title "America Alone"
imikewillrockyou 3 years ago
Such right wing conservative crap. They
will be acculturated, and their population
will level off very quickly. That and
the fact that Europe will have to forsake
socialism very very soon especially with
the price of oil and the stranglehold
that Russia has in providing that oil.
danger0usknowledge 3 years ago
Maybe you should read the book before you call it crap. It's very well researched. The idea that Muslims are going to stop having children, accept European secular culture in contradiction to their religion is fantasy. Typical leftist utopian wishful thinking. Native Europeans are halving their population with each generation, Muslims there are having six children per generation on average. Even if they abandon socialism NOW 2050 at the LATEST is all the time they have. They need to wake up.
imikewillrockyou 3 years ago
danger0usknowledge 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
answer =
1)much more nuclear power
2)electric/hydrogen cars/hydrogen planes
3)use coal to make petrochemicals
4)nano materials
no sweat.
next !
matchbox555 3 years ago
Almost all developed nations are below replacement birthrate- problem solved. You simply educate women.
This roadshow should take itself to Saudi, Yemen, Sudan etc.
SteveWrathall 3 years ago
I recently watched some recent video of Haiti. Riots, foot shortages, etc. I visited there in the early 80's and loved it. Very nice people though very poor. Now it's anarchy. Signs of things to come.
wake911up 3 years ago
And what was the response of the Haitian government? Normal short-sighted stupidity: putting price controls on rice. This may buy a week of peace, at the long-term price of robbing farmers of the fruits of their labour, and therefore incentive to be productive.
SteveWrathall 3 years ago
"Yellow", black, white are stable or declining. Problem is the brown race in both the Western Hemisphere and Far East. India will surpass China as most populous within 20 years. So if they begin to starve then it is not our problem I suppose. Population has tripled in my family's lifetime and more and more populations are becoming westernized.
Dark ages are coming. May be this is why US is preoccupied with the means to monitor and control domestic populations.
wake911up 3 years ago
Not "our" problem? Air and water aren't local properties. We're all living in the same damn appartment. The population growth in India already takes away our jobs in the west. It will take away the water and the food also. In the same way as the USA took the away the oil from the majority of the worlds population. Under economical circumstances, the US-farmers will rather sell their grain to India if the retail-price there is better than in the USA.
WolYou 3 years ago
The reason for overpopulation is the lifestyle human race is leading at the present time.
Exploitation of human and natural resources simply for making profits is the major cause of our problems.
If every human lived in small farming communities, and only small percentage lived in small cities (mostly administration and local services), we would never grow hungry again. Everyone should grow their own food.
kakudmi 4 years ago
The land has been ravaged by over production. Not sure if its unsustainable cash crop production or not. We have an unsustainable world population. Add it up:declining fisheries, declining tropical forests, continual pollution along with a continuous human population growth. Disaster.
wake911up 3 years ago
Yes, but that's happening bcause humans like to eat meat, which requires too much land being used to feed them. All of that land and grains can be used to feed humans, but each and every meat eater helps this planet keep rotting. Slaughterhouses pollute so immensly that it actually stands right next to the pharmaceuticals and oil companies. Eating meat just because we like the taste of it is one of the most unnatural activities on this planet. Hard to believe, because we're like killing for food
kakudmi 3 years ago
how about we just stop having so many fucking kids. stopping people from eating meat is not going to do shit if we continue to grow at the rate we are. a better idea is not to consume as much of everything. in the u.s along with most other wealthy nations we consume way to much resources because thats what we were taught to do by the media and these large corperations since we were little. if we dont consume as much they dont make as much money so why would they tell us to consume less.
erikdavis33 3 years ago
Eating meat means exactly that: consuming too much. please research on google how much it takes to produce one pound of beef, how much water, land, grains and human energy, then you'll see what over-consumption means.
kakudmi 3 years ago
Absolutely right. For 1 kilogram meat you invest 10 to 20 kilograms of plants. In other words, while you are eating a pound of meat you are in fact eating about 5 to 10 kilos of corn. But by doing this, we will help solve the population problem -> Dilemma. The more people starving to death, the better in the long run. Abortion must be legal and common practice everywhere. The sooner the better.
WolYou 3 years ago
no, i disagree. Education and proper govt. policies should help stabalize population. You can't indirectly purposly let people starve to death or have abortions. But the problem isn't so much in the U.S. it is the other countries.
mycatisromeo 3 years ago
mycat - why can't you allow this? Especially if other countries have policies within their own culture that don't smooth population growth and reverse those trends (think Africa, Asia), why should we step in and help with money & resources? Let them take care of their own business - eventually population growth WILL stop, as Bartlett says - just a matter of how prepared we are for that inevitability and how many have to needlessly suffer as a result of our shortsightedness.
fju2112 3 years ago
Thank you ! I have been saying this is the main problem for so long now, and I'm terrible at math. Soon the average of death will be near 100 years old. I would love to hear this dilemma brought up in the Presidential debates!
jojo808 4 years ago
Prof Barlett rules.... I have watched his "Arithmetic, Energy and Population" video several times. Yes, people don't get simple arithmetic!!!
btw, Great irony in title!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago 3
Cool post Wake, who do you think is the candidate that will curb our population growth? He got one thing wrong in the presentation. About the environmentalists lack of addressing population growth. The reason they don't stress that issue is because they don't want to eliminate the reason for them having jobs :)
pjimq 4 years ago
I hear less about population growth now then I did 30 years ago. It's gotten buried in all the attendant problems. Now it'd be considered racist since population growth is occurring in the brown race only. (throughout the world) I don't know of any candidate talking population control.
wake911up 4 years ago
I remember this too, I think It was MIT that calculated that the world would overpopulate by by the 70's and we would all begin to suffer in some fashion.
lestliness 4 years ago
It'll also be racist when billions of brown people starve and die like rats. :)
kam3Oen 4 years ago 2