We have to free our minds from our egalitarian delusions The US and Britain are not morally superior countries. In reality, they're not so different from Putin's Russia.Oligarchs in charge of the media and economy - a massive secret state apparatus involved in assassinating & compromising political opponents and journalists - Orwellian wars waged ostensibly against a clandestine implacable enemy - and false flag terrorist outrages - all hidden beneath a thin veneer of democracy.
Smoke and mirrors, mirrors and smoke, USGov has played on us a terrible joke.
As a matter of due process of law under the 14th and 5th Amendments, DEMAND Congress STOP the "States Secrets Doctrine" from allowing USGov to prohibit any production of relevant evidence & testimony from surfacing in courts and media, where redress is sought by victims of terrorism on US, its territories or occupied regions, irrespective of any subsequent confessions or guilty pleas made.
I love Chomsky but he's pretty damn pessimistic these days. His points are valid, but his essential position is "Who gives a shit?". I'm no authority on the subject, but building 7 didn't just implode for no reason. That doesn't make Chomsky wrong exactly, but he just doesn't seem to think examining the situation is even important, and I think it is.
"Of COURSE you seek approval from others. That's the whole point of being a 911 kook. In REAL life you're sad pathetic "bastard" who is wholly rejected by the same, and opposite sex. Laughed at and Mocked by everyone you know". How dark can it get - Spoken like Lindy English herself. But at least now you've started belatedly using expletives - You must've Ok'd it with your C/O.
@32peartree Occam's Razor again. What explanation makes the least assumptions.
1)Edgeman is a government disinfo agent working for the FBI or CIA or w/e and gets paid to debunk and spread disinfo over the internet to cover up 9/11 being an inside job and try to perpetuate the "official story."
2)Edgeman is just kind of a douche who likes arguing with conspiracy theorists when hes bored.
@LeadVitamin: Perhaps the latter but you never know. I find that many of the "Israel masterminded 9/11 to take over the world" people to be almost exclusively of the former category and not the latter.
@MiracleMile90 I think Mossad had some involvement but only has low-level players. Security Services often do this - i.e. use foreign nationals to execute black ops - like using Cuban exiles to break into the Watergate building. The two main reasons for doing this are, 1) foreign nationalists will do practically anything if they think it furthers the cause of their country - and 2) - if they get caught - the people pulling the strings have plausible deniability.
@MiracleMile90 Yeah a German connection keeps on surfacing in relation to terrorist outrages perpetrated against the US. The Frankfurt holdall switch and Lockerbie. The Andreas Strassmeir link to Tim McVeigh. Mohamed Atta studying in Hamburg. This German link - might be connected to Operation Paperclip - when the US co-opted members of the Gestapo in the wake of WW2 to help fight the Cold War. Its rumored that the descendants of the "Rat Line" are still working for the CIA today.
@MyHirogen "the mind of a crazy person is very interesting" unlike your mind which is very boring. "Bob the Builder" - is that your best? Go back to sleep clown.
@MyHirogen But in a sense you're right - this stuff does sound absolutely bonkers. But I'm afraid that Cuban Exiles and Watergate, Iraqi exiles murdering Dr David Kelly (Norman Baker MP "The Strange Death of Dr Kelly")- the "Rat line", where the CIA actually recruited the Butcher of Leon, Klaus Barbie - to teach South American fascists in the black arts of torture - IS ALL TRUE. Check them all out on wikipedia - its all there in B&W. Sometimes I wish I was just paranoid.
@MyHirogen I didn't accuse you of pulling a straw man - I don't think you're capable of of it - what I meant was - you are a MAN OF STRAW. Like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz - if you only had a brain then you might have worked out that a term can have more than one meaning. And who wired YOUR brain? Not Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner by any chance?
@MiracleMile90 So If the 911 plot was ever exposed - the CIA/NSA etc would deflect blame from themselves and pin it on Israeli zealots - its called the "Blow Back" principle. A similar example is MI5's use of Iraqi Exiles to "suicide" Dr David Kelly.
The peasants below me are do dumb that they won't even get it when I, a genius incapable of framing a coherent sentence for some reason -- LOL! -- call myself "LeadVitamin" as I go about seeding the landscape with poison. LOL!
The objective of this lesson is for you to comprehend psychological operations and how they may be employed to influence an adversary's behavior.
@Bernadotte01 Well spotted with Lead Vitamin - the name is quite sinister - specially for someone claiming to hold progressive views. But I think EDGEMAN is closer to his or her real identity. A super Zionist Zealot - who thinks anyone critical of Israel is a Nazi sympathizer. Sounds a little like the Mossad backed "Anti Defamation League". But their slurs won't change my mind about the many friendships I've had with Jewish people over the years. Alas, it seems its a case of Israel r-o-w.
@32PearSButler You we're more than just "critical" of Israel. Blaming a certain group of people for all the worlds problems and accusing them of hogging all the worlds wealth isn't being critical, that is what we call racism.
Alot of people realize conspiracy theorists are racist, I've seen people come here calling Chomsky everything from a Zionist Jew to a heeb and a kike. Fine with me though just makes truthers seems like the irrational emotional hate filled people they really are.
@32peartree You see ant-semetic slurs again. Also trying to draw me in to verbal fisticuffs - so as to show me as a jew hater - standard techniques - familiar from the mass media transposed on to You Tube. I think what he or she is referring to is my interest in the Rothschild dynasty - I'm trying to work out whether there's anything to the conspiracy theories - but regardless of them being Jewish - I do find the the Rothschilds fascinating - I mean how much are they actually worth?
@32peartree But even if the Rothschilds are incredibly powerful - which I haven't made my mind up about yet - this in no way reflects upon the average Jewish person. That would be like blaming the entire Italian race for the mafia or seeing all Americans has Muslim hating, bible bashing, George Bush supporters.To this effect Israel is like any other country - a majority of its population being made up of decent law abiding people yet with a small minority of over zealous reactionaries.
@32peartree Coming on here like a 12 year old and just making a blanket statement of "SHILL!! SHILL!!" is the epitome of ignorance especially with no evidence. Then going "BLAH BLAH BLAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU, 9/11 INSIDE JOB!!! BLAH BLAH BLAH" is incredibly ignorant
If you could come on here and refute all our arguments it would be much better than crying shill but you know you can't do that so you have to settle for crying shill.
Face it you lost dude, just too stupid to know your dead.
@32peartree: My research has indicated that although the Rothschilds do still have some influence, especially where finance is concerned, their overall impact seems to have been quite greatly overshadowed by that of people like the Rockefellers.
@MiracleMile90 I think we all grew up with this naive notion that politicians were running the show - but we're beginning to understand that this was all an illusion. Governments are basically corporations borrowing money from the bond markets. But this shouldn't be a revelation really - given capitalism was always going to be run by CAPITALists. But the point is - is this a good or a bad thing - are such dynasties as the Rothschilds or Rockefellers - angels or demons?
@32peartree Edge is right basically.You come on here crying "shill" to each poster basically shows your arguments are so weak that you have to personally attack us.
If your arguments were that great for 9/11 being an inside job they should be able to stand up to scrutiny from anyone, even "shills" You should be happy to go up against "shills" cause if the evidence and arguments for 9/11 being a inside job were really that great it would be easy to refute their arguments but you can't
You are engaging with the army typing pool - what's the point. Just ignore them and talk to each other. Of course, they are good - THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL. Like "Private Joker" in "Full Metal Jacket". Military desk jobs who like "staying in the rear with the gear". Hey - who can blame them - sure beats risking your ass in STAN.
The people shilling for the "official" conspiracy theory starring "Bin Ladin and the Boxcutter Guys"" are ALL USGov PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS agents.
Our job is to hang in there until they are HANGED for treason, b/c they piss on the graves of those 3000 people burned alive with their lame attempts to cover-up.
US Army Procedure manual is easy to GOOGLE.
"FM 3-05.301 (FM 33-1-1)
MCRP 3-40.6A Psychological Operations Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures"
Operation Northwoods was a false flag terrorist plan approved in 1963 by the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense MacNamara. It remained secret and classified until released by the JFK Library in 1997.
Northwoods was a plan to hijack US airliners, crash them into civilian/military buildings and blame it on Cuba. Does this ring a bell in terms of 9/11?
Thank Ted and Caroline Kennedy for releasing the info. Thank JFK for refusing to go along with it, although his refusal cost him his life.
@MiracleMile90 I'll tell you a slam-dunk conspiracy we can prove tomorrow - the assassination of Bobby Kennedy - the evidence is all there - a jury would find Sirhan Sirhan innocent - no doubt about it. And why are assassins so accurate when they are shooting at Democrats - JFK, King, RFK that congress woman in Arizona - but when it comes to Reagan, Gerald Ford, Nixon etc- the lone nut jobs suddenly become the gang who couldn't shoot straight.
Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, STATES SECRETS PRIVILEGE is increasingly used to dismiss entire 9/11 related court cases, instead of only withholding the sensitive information from a case.
see, Lewis & Clark Law Review, published by Lewis & Clark Law School, Volume 11 / Number 1 / Spring 2007
I don't pretend to be important- but the Internet is. The difference between the internet and other media outlets- is that it is not controlled by big business and, as yet, is still a democratic forum. So when they use taxpayers money to try and manipulate us into accepting the official line regarding 911 this is immoral and tantamount to state propaganda.You are essentially paying to be propagandized. So I implore you to continue to refrain from verbally sparing with these intellectual thugs.
Everyone you'll have to excuse 32peartree hes extremely paranoid and has delusional paranoid fantasies about secret agents on the internet that would bother to waste their time with him even if their were.
SHILL ALERT! SHILL ALERT! SHILL ALERT! The gloves are off - they've just swapped tag teams - DON'T ENGAGE WITH ANY OF THESE IMPERIAL PROPAGANDA IMPOSTERS. They are so obvious - as if we can't see through their bullshit. But we have achieved a great victory outing DEVIANT MAIL - don't engage - just circumvent their media propagandist subversion.
@TheCrimsonsGhosts And in another 10 years, you morons will still have zero proof. and shitheads like you will have wasted 20 years of your life on a pathetic walter mitty fantasy.
@TheCrimsonsGhosts You are 100% correct. The only people here who oppose you are USGov disinformation PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS agents who post here 24/7/365.
US Army/NSA "psyops" are here spewing their disinformation b/c they genuinely fear the day when their murdering rampage on 9/11 result in mobs of angry people pulling them out of their homes and burning them alive, just like: (1) the townspeople w/ torches at the end of the "Frankenstein" movie; (2) like they did to those 3000 people
@TheCrimsonsGhosts Notice how EDGEMAN/DEVIANT MAIL demonstrates perfect punctuation and spelling when he gets mad and sends rapid fire comments. This doesn't make any sense - has you well know - the angrier and faster you type the more mistakes you make. This proves EDGEMAN/DEVIANT MAIL is deliberately making mistakes to try and appear like a run of the mill You Tube Poster. If he or she were punctilious all the time this would give the game away - that they were military journalists.
"Psychological Operations" personnel on guard duty 24/7/365 to defend AGAINST truth, justice and the American way. These TRAITORS spew a perpetual flow of disinformation out of FEAR we will serve justice onto them.
It's clear the only ones who still peddle the official 9/11 conspiracy-theory side-show a/k/a "OBL and the Boxcutter Guys' are the criminal element who seized control over our USGov.
@TheCrimsonsGhosts <--of COURSE you seek approval from others. Thats the whole point of being a 911 Kook. In REAL life youre a sad, pathetic bastard who is wolely rejected by the same, and opposite sex. Laughed at, and Mocked by everyone you know.
Thats what makes you so susceptible to the 911 Kookery. You finally feel smart. You finally feel like you belong somewhere. Sad and Pathetic. Yet social. =]
sooo how exactly does he "dispel" it? just because it is difficult for Chomsky to imagine that the US govt would do this. his reasons: 1) they would have to be INSANE (hmmmm) 2) if they had, it would have leaked (there is hard evidence everywhere) 3) and to take a chance on that would be meaningless (actually, they used 9/11 to create a "war on terror" & go to war in Iraq) 4) with any event, some things are "unexplainable" (you mean like a 3rd building collapsing for no reason?) LOGIC.
@NewEarthRevolution 1) Insane means insane, not doing things you don't like 2) zero evidence period. perhaps you need to learn what constitutes evidence. 3) Umm, al-Qaeda was around prior to 9/11 and WMD was used as justification for Iraq. They had Saudis fly the planes to go to war with Iraq? Makes no sense. 4) yes, unexplainable. That you can't appreciate that is your problem.
Those of us who know 9/11 was an inside job are hip to the fact all 9/11 key evidence has been subject to GAG orders pursuant to the "States Secret Doctrine."
In terms of 9/11, you spout your disinformation such as "show me the proof" knowing full well ALL "proof" you speak of has been ordered sealed by US District Judge Alvin Hellerstein, USDCSDNY.
@dpetrano ..okay.. so I guess conspiracy theorists knew they were making up all their so-called evidence these past 10 years of creating web sites and youtube videos?
A district court judge?! You guys will say anything!
@32peartree Since you seem to have removed you latest comment out of embarrassment, here it is: "Strange how you only just set up on You Tube yesterday - but anyway give my regards to the rest of the characters in your head."
ER, I joined May 29, 2011 you fool.. Was that yesterday? If this is as good as your investigative skills get, why should we listen to you about 9/11? I think the answer is obvious to all.
@911sausageman By the way RT might be blatant propaganda but why should media shills like you feel so smug - when you are engaging the same BS albeit with a little more subtlety - then again no subtlety whatsoever- the coverage of the Libyan civil war was an absolute disgrace. Syria and Libyan revolutions good - Yemen and Bahrain complicated. This is how you imperial elitist shills operate - and now you're moving on to YT - but you know what we're not gonna let you win - YT is ours so fuck you
@911sausageman I never said I was a District Ct Judge. I said I am a member of the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida. Go onto the official web page and check the attorney roster under the name David F. Petrano.
Soon enough, I believe POTUS-43 as Commander-in-Chief will be court martialed for treason. The topic is under serious discussion as I post here. There are in-fact numerous high ranking Judge Advocates who are well aware the attack on the Pentagon was treason
@dpetrano You pussy. The US has no states secrets act. Nor can Judges issue gag orders to anyone outside a case they are currently hearing. They cant just blanket a gag order out onto the whole country.
The Classified Information Procedures Act or (CIPA, Pub.L. 96-456, 94 Stat. 2025, enacted October 15, 1980 through S. 1482), is codified as the third appendix to Title 18 of the U.S. Code, the title concerning crimes and criminal procedures. The U.S. Code citation is 18 U.S.C. App. III. Sections 1-16.
ALL relevant evidence to prove 9/11 was orchestrated by USGov is determined CLASSIFIED by the TRAITORS w/i USGov who planned/executed and subsequently covered up 9/11 and OK City
1) youre just copy and pasting off of Wikipedai, Because youre a fake lawyer who doesnt know the law herself.
2) Classified information is information that has some NATIONAL security value. It does NOT protect people who have comitted crimes against the country. For example, Under FOIA (Use Wikipedia to research the freedom of information act--since a FAKE LAWYER like you has never heard of it before) you can ask for the IDs of all covert US assets worldwide. But Natl security
Doctrine give the govt cause to not comply with foia.
However, if individuals have comitted acts of terrorism agains the US, there is no national secrity interest in protecting that crime. Same way President Clintin was not allowed to claim "national security" to avoid being a defendant in a criminal case.
Natl Security doctrine doesnt apply to individuals whio have comitted crimeinal acts. Even FAKE lawyers know this.
@dpetrano Exactly idiot. And an attack ON the us by US govt officials would be an illegal act AGAINST the national security of the US. Not proteced BY the national security of the US. Therefore, as with clinton and Nixon, with NO national security interest, there is NO LEGAL standing for conspirators to claim national security priveledge.
As such, a hypothetical "inside job" wold not be protected by it.
@EdgemanLL2 Google is secondary reference tool commonly used to assist in attaining primary references.
Your attack upon the truth reveals once again you are a paid USGov disinformation PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS Agent. Those of us here refer to you as TRAITOR b/c you attempt to cover-up USGov burned 3000 people alive to turn the USA into a TSA police state.
@EdgemanLL2 You are a USGov disinformation shill. I am not going away.
No one peddles the official 9/11 story line except USGov PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS agents. It is clear your co-conspirators are running scared b/c you are here 24/7/365.
DEVIANT MAIL is almost certainly an agent of the US military - but I implore him or her to stand down and stop what they are doing immediately. This is an affront to the people they are suppose to serve and protect; as well as being a criminal subversion of democracy and a waste of tax payers money. Remember the guy in the Zimbardo experiment; just because someone in authority tells you its alright - doesn't mean you should blindly follow orders.
"Note: in appropriate cases add the following element after element (1): that the person to whom the language was communicated was a child under the age of sixteen. Note: when the language is communicated in front of a child - this offence is punishable under the new article 120" - - So, to this extent - as You Tube is open to children under of age of sixteen - cursing on this thread could be a punished by "dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of pay and allowances and confinement for 2 years".
In respect to OK City bombing and 9/11, it is my legal opinion POTUS as Commander-in-Chief is subject to court martial for treason, irrespective of the fact such as thing has never been done. As I write this post, there are numerous JAG officers pondering the same thing, inc/ Lt. Gen Gen Dana Chipman.
article 134 of the Uniform code of military Justice (1) that the accused orally or in writing communicated certain language; (2) that such language; was indecent and (3) that, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
@Bernadotte01 There's hundreds of instances of compelling circumstantial evidence creating plausible inferences strongly rebutting USGov "official" finding 9/11 was perped by 19 guys w/ boxcutters.
Here, USGov psyops "Edgeman/Leadvitamin" mission is to dispel doubts in the "official" 9/11 findings
I strongly believe some day, USGov psyops who perpetuate these 9/11 lies will be dragged out of their homes by angry mobs and lit on fire, so they experience the same agony those 3000 people did.
@dpetrano I don't think the perpetrators will ever face justice. Lead vitamin is here to poison minds, as stated by its choice of name. Other shill names are just as obvious, like "SnowCrash" and "Academic Lullaby" at 911Blogger. The expression of contempt for the audience is unavoidable for many shills, such is their naked hatred for the truth. anyway, re USGov psyops:
@Bernadotte01 Don't listen to him he is going to blow up Boston and blame it on the government as a false flag attack so he can get his false flag prohibition act enacted. I'm not falling for it for one second, you shouldn't either.
@Bernadotte01 Deviant Mail (Lead Vitamin) is running under different identities - he/she also likes to play good cop/bad cop - or set up the phony left/right paradigm. But still no expletives - none of these nom de guerres ever use foul language. They are incredibly abusive but always manage to employ "swear filters" like "fuxing". And notice how they make childish mistakes in one comment then are word perfect in the next. Scroll back through their initial exchanges with Dpetrano.
Notice how DEVIANT MAIL has laid off with the EDGEMAN alter ego for a while - since being outed. And still no expletives - even though a simple "fuck you" would be enough to dispel my theory. So come on DEVIANT MAIL give us some profanity.
@32peartree Disinformation-traitors like "Edgeman," etc., somehow think that their USGov badges and emblems make them better Americans than us, in terms of their unfettered use of false flag operations where they typically burn innocent people alive and falsely blame it on others, as a means to further their sick-o police state agenda.
@32peartree Edgeman/LeadVita are disinfo shills alright, they are members of the US Army "Psychological Operations" unit. False flag attacks and subsequent cover-ups are what they do for a living.
This is why there needs to be enactment of a "FALSE FLAG TERRORISM PROHIBITION ACT, to stop USGov from murdering masses of innocent Americans once and for all.
@32peartree Edgeman/LeadVita are disinfo shills alright, they are members of the US Army "Psychological Operations" unit. False flag attacks and subsequent cover-ups are what they do for a living.
This is why there needs to be enactment of a "FALSE FLAG TERRORISM PROHIBITION ACT, to stop USGov from murdering masses of innocent Americans once and for all.
@32peartree Yes, and I also like to hangout in a basement wearing a robe and hood with my other Illuminati brothers around a pentagram and chant satanic verses.
@EdgemanLL2 "SHILL ALERT: Do not get drawn in to a conversation with DEVIANT MAIL (Lead Vitamin) or his or her other nom de guerre - EDGEMAN."
Lol peartree here is making up anagrams of my name as if every little thing has some deep dark secret and dpetrano is sending me poems. This is getting weird.
@EdgemanLL2 Thought so - still no profanities - you are either Francis of Assisi or you've been instructed by your C/O to refrain from using bad language on the net. What was that line in Apocalyps Now "We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because its obscene".
@32peartree Why would we curse at you? That isn't every nice, I wouldn't stoop as low as using profanity and ad hominem attacks. We are trying to have a substantive, intelligent and thoughtful debate here! And Frankly I'm offended at such an accusation, one might think you were trying to use such an argument do discredit us.
Is it profanities you want, then it is profanities you shall get, you sir are nothing but and dandy, charlatan and simpleton. I bid you G'day sir!
Let me tell you something you TRAITOR SOB, I'm very hip to the fact Army Lt General Michael Canavan is one of the main plotters for the 9/11 false flag attack on America. Canavan's traitors conducted 9/11 practice exercises as early as 1999.
I dont need to beat you down anymore. You surrendered. Youve admitted to being a brain-dead little sheep, just blindly believing whatever Tarpley says, never thinking for yourself.
In order to justify your self-discovered cowardice and idiocy, you try desperately to see more "patterns."
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
@ctcole77 from what I understand when a buildings basement is taken out it is to accommodate the rubble not initiate a starting point of collapse. If there was charges planted It would be possible that they were on remote and not every one would survive where planes hit but enough could. as far as confessions go people lie all the time. It is clear you support a side in this, but I don't. Just wanted to give some possible answers to your questions. Thank you for being logical.
@Javeriffic Two Commercial Jets can not cause three skyscrapers to collapse - period. But the turkey's on this thread will start sowing seeds of doubt in your mind. They are engaging in the same tactics they spiel out ad infinitum in the mainstream media. It was only natural they were going to try and infiltrate YT - like every other information outlet. You have your own eyes to see - believe them. Don't engage with these war mongers - other than to expose them for what they are.
@32peartree I do not care, and I think that my points support logic. I know that it was an inside job. I love great questions and responded to them, I do not pick sides and why should I. War is War and I lost no dog in this fight. And as you know they were not commercial jets. Death comes to us all. But great questions will be answered by me the best I can.
@Javeriffic Well yea of course, they weren't planes they were holograms, and the planes that were hijacked and the people in them, well the government used magic to make them disappear. Its a big secret, the government knows magic exists but is keeping it secret.
@Javeriffic Of course they will appeal to your intellect - like vox pops in the mass media - but they will use your participation to destroy your position. I've been on this post for months now and I'm now completely convinced we are dealing with a disinfo operation - check out "CTV Confirms Government(s) employing internet trolls, shills and PR agents to correct misinformation". And remember Canada has often been used as a base for covert psy warfare operations - going back to cointelpro.
@32peartree "Two Commercial Jets can not cause three skyscrapers to collapse - period"
I realize you are a world leading engineer, having recieved your advanced degree by watching YT one weekend
But two planes didnt take down 3 skyscrapers. The damage and fires caused 2 to collapse, and about a dozen other buildings were destroyed in the B1B2 collapses.
Period.
Youre grossly unqualified to make any other claims. =].
It goes like this: Operation Northwoods set the blueprint for 9/11.
JFK/RFK intended to appoint a prosecutor to charge MacNamara and the Joint Chiefs of Staff for conspiracy to commit treason for having planned Northwoods to the final execution stage.
JFK did not want such prosecutions to occur until after he replaced the Northwoods planners sometime in early January, 1964.
JFK's failure to timely prosecute resulted in false flag attacks accepted as legal.
@LeadVitamin Those heavy metals are not good for your neurons. Here's a trick for you.
Google, CHOMKSY, 911, NO EVIDENCE
See how easy that was?
Or you can hear it from the horse's mouth, right here: v=uzNhAo1zBD4
"THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION REFUSED TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE. ...BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY"
The myth-enforcing fraud who posted this video doesn't have ethics of course, otherwise it would make note of Chomky's change of heart in the video description.
@Bernadotte01 You think this is news to me idiot? Read back through my comments I told dpetrano this not less than a day ago. God you people are dumb.
"The plot had been hatched in afghanistan but was implemented in the united arab emirates and germany" by Mohamed Atta who was the leader of a independent terrorist cells operating outside the leadership of Al Qaeda.
If you don't believe me go look at one of the comments I made 7 hours prior to this one.
@Bernadotte01 Everything said in this video is consistent with the one you linked, so I'm not sure what your trying to do here besides make yourself look like a retard.
Just cause people think the leadership of Al Qaeda had nothing to do with 9/11, and their probably right, doesn't mean and independent terrorist cell of Al Qaeda acting autonomously didn't commit 9/11. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
An "independent terrorist cell" is maybe capable of attaining some black powder to stick inside metal pipe.
You are a FRAUD USGov shill to even remotely think some "rogue" AL Queerdas managed to pull-off that circle/decent maneuver at the Pentagon. I understand a pilot would have to have the skill of Chuck Yeager to pull off a stunt like that.
I promise you, some day you and shills like you will be dragged from your homes by angry mobs and burned alive for doing 9/11.
@dpetrano Still the same big event = big cause child like mentality. Just like JFK and how conspiracy theorists fragile pea brains can't comprehend the leader of the free world could be taken out by a no body with a rifle.
And yet Tim McVeigh blew up a building. I didn't know you had to do a double backflip barrel roll to crash a plane into a building, least your not one of the wackos saying it was a missile.
@LeadVitamin Tim McVeigh's explosive concoction is NOT what blew up the OK CIty Fed building. Many explosive charges were placed/detonated throughout the OK City Federal Building to ensure maximum loss of life.
OK City was another in a long string of false flag attacks.
I suggest you see a movie written/produced by retired OK CIty LEO and FBI who lost family at the OK City Courthouse. It's called "A NOBLE LIE Oklahoma City 1995"
False flag terrorist events as it stands, are perfectly legal.
Are you suggesting USGov's Operation Northwoods false flag terrorist plan to hijack US passenger planes, crash them into civilian/military buildings and blame it on Cuba is a "fairy tale?"
@dpetrano the truth is Vitman insults you for your "childlike mentality" when he subscribes to the biggest fairy tale in history - the Warren Report. But don't take the bait - lets circumvent their shill tactics.
@dpetrano And notice how Vitman still refrains from using expletives. Are there any defamation laws against federal employees swearing on the internet?
@32peartree And if your going to think we're the same person atleast use "Leadman" your "Vitman" sounds dumb. Or even Vitaman still sounds better than Vitman.
@Bernadotte01 Here is a video where Chomsky says they killed Bin Laden and buried him out at sea cause if they kept him alive he would have to be put on trail which would be aweful for them cause they didn't have any evidence that he had a significant part in 9/11.
/watch?v=plMAmK_m1E8
Its like if Seal Team 6 went and shot up Iran on their own without any orders, it wouldn't be Obama's fault but they are part of the US military just like the 9/11 terrorists were part of Al Qaeda.
@LeadVitamin SHILL ALERT: scroll down and look at my advice to Beauexq. If I was you I wouldn't engage with Vitman - as he or she is probably some government shill. If you don't believe me just tap "911 Shills on the internet" into your YT search engine and see what you find out. Apparently YT is infested with them.
@Bernadotte01 Actually Lead Vitamin/Edgeman - or rather should we call him or her Vitman - as raised an interesting point - in that the "official" plot for 911 was partly hatched in Germany. A German connection keeps cropping up time and again in relation to terrorism against the USA - think the Andreas Strassmeir phone call made by Tim McVeigh, think about the Frankfurt airport luggage switch before flight Pan Am 103 exploded over Scotland. And last but not least - think Operation Paper Clip.
@32peartree Mohamed Atta studied structural engineering and architecture in germany and he managed to to destroy 3 building and irreparably damage several others, imagine that!
@dpetrano How are you adamantly against terrorists having committed 9/11 if you don't even know it all that well? Al-Qaeda operates in independent terrorist cells who rarely make contact with the leaders. The majority of the foreign press and Chomsky himself thinks that Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11 and their probably right, cause it does seem improbable that he could organize such a plot from "a cave in Afghanistan."
@EdgemanLL2 Like the retarded kid that wears sweats all the time and smells funny who keeps on coming back to the playground day after day only to be made fun of by the other kids peartree has finally learned that he can't win and its better to just stay away. Not that I'm saying I would beat up a retarded kid but I can make an exception for conspiracy theorists. At least retarded kids know their retarded unlike conspiracy theorists.
@beauxq Take your own advice. Logic is a discipline that relies on reasonong. And the likelyhood of a claim being true is part of a logical conclusion. Its simply the difference between possible and probable.
For example, There is exactly as much evidence of "911 was done by invisible robot dinosraurs from Mars that eat buildings and piss burning jet fuel" as there is for an inside job. The immense unlikelyhood of this event being done by robo-dino's (or an inside job) disqualifies it.
@EdgemanLL2 LOL OMG Dude watch the video peartree is talking about. I don't know what your supposed to take away from a video like that but its definitely not information.
@LeadVitamin 32Adolf has surrendered, hes admitted that hes too stupid to think for himself, and relies solely on Tarpley to tell him what to think.
If Tarpley told him 911 was faked, and the proof is that there are no odd-numbered days in the month of September, that moron would insist its true. Then call anyone with a Calendar a govt agent from Florida!
Its the true nature of the Kook movement. Retards unable to think for themselves repeat what Tarpley tells them to think, because
911 Kooks are genuinely very stupid people (minus guys like Tarpley who bank off the morons) who are so self-conscious, so embarassed at their retard-level intellect, they are insanely desperate to sound smart.
Thats truly why kook eventually hide like 32 is doing. Every exchange he has is a slap accorss his face, reminding him what a gullbile fuxing idiot he is.
Blaming us is mearly the defense mechanism to assuage her himilation. =]
@EdgemanLL2 But like the retarded kid who thinks the other kids don't like him cause they don't understand him, when its really cause he acts and says weird crap and smells funny, peartree probably like GenSBulter will probably go on thinking they secretly know what is really going on at that we're brainwashed shills that are too scared to believe that 9/11 was an inside job and that our level of opposition is a testament to our indoctrination as a result of government propaganda.
You and "LeadVitamin" are one in the same poster. you are a FRAUD operating under MCRP 3-40.6A Psychological Operations Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures"
Tonight, POTUS lied AGAIN about the OBL 'raid" which never occurred, b/c if it did, the body would have been delivered for independent autopsy, as was the executed Nuremburg Nazis.
@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
@EdgemanLL2 From what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
@beauxq SHILL ALERT - Lead Vitamin and Edgeman are probably one and the same person. A military disinfo operative based at the Joint Special Operations University in Florida. I'd advise you not to engage with any anti 911 Truth arguments posited on this thread. Check out "Webster Tarpley identifies shills infesting 911 Truth" on You Tube. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
@beauxq DUMBASS ALERT - @32peartree is a dumbass that will tell you things that aren't supported by any type of evidence or facts and is probably more of a woman than man. She is a obese truthtard based out of her mom's basement and rocks a tin foil hat. I'd advise you not to engage with her if you like things like facts, evidence or logic. Check out "Webster Tarpley identifies shills infesting 911 Truth" on You Tube. If you want to have a seizure and have your IQ go down 20 points.
We have to free our minds from our egalitarian delusions The US and Britain are not morally superior countries. In reality, they're not so different from Putin's Russia.Oligarchs in charge of the media and economy - a massive secret state apparatus involved in assassinating & compromising political opponents and journalists - Orwellian wars waged ostensibly against a clandestine implacable enemy - and false flag terrorist outrages - all hidden beneath a thin veneer of democracy.
32peartree 1 hour ago
Smoke and mirrors, mirrors and smoke, USGov has played on us a terrible joke.
As a matter of due process of law under the 14th and 5th Amendments, DEMAND Congress STOP the "States Secrets Doctrine" from allowing USGov to prohibit any production of relevant evidence & testimony from surfacing in courts and media, where redress is sought by victims of terrorism on US, its territories or occupied regions, irrespective of any subsequent confessions or guilty pleas made.
dpetrano 8 hours ago
I love Chomsky but he's pretty damn pessimistic these days. His points are valid, but his essential position is "Who gives a shit?". I'm no authority on the subject, but building 7 didn't just implode for no reason. That doesn't make Chomsky wrong exactly, but he just doesn't seem to think examining the situation is even important, and I think it is.
GrizzlyIzzy 8 hours ago
"Of COURSE you seek approval from others. That's the whole point of being a 911 kook. In REAL life you're sad pathetic "bastard" who is wholly rejected by the same, and opposite sex. Laughed at and Mocked by everyone you know". How dark can it get - Spoken like Lindy English herself. But at least now you've started belatedly using expletives - You must've Ok'd it with your C/O.
32peartree 15 hours ago
@32peartree Occam's Razor again. What explanation makes the least assumptions.
1)Edgeman is a government disinfo agent working for the FBI or CIA or w/e and gets paid to debunk and spread disinfo over the internet to cover up 9/11 being an inside job and try to perpetuate the "official story."
2)Edgeman is just kind of a douche who likes arguing with conspiracy theorists when hes bored.
LeadVitamin 15 hours ago
@LeadVitamin: Perhaps the latter but you never know. I find that many of the "Israel masterminded 9/11 to take over the world" people to be almost exclusively of the former category and not the latter.
MiracleMile90 11 hours ago
@MiracleMile90 I think Mossad had some involvement but only has low-level players. Security Services often do this - i.e. use foreign nationals to execute black ops - like using Cuban exiles to break into the Watergate building. The two main reasons for doing this are, 1) foreign nationalists will do practically anything if they think it furthers the cause of their country - and 2) - if they get caught - the people pulling the strings have plausible deniability.
32peartree 10 hours ago
@32peartree: Sounds plausible to me. In fact, did you know that Pakistan's ISI and even Germany's BND were present as well? Very interesting indeed.
MiracleMile90 10 hours ago
@MiracleMile90 Yeah a German connection keeps on surfacing in relation to terrorist outrages perpetrated against the US. The Frankfurt holdall switch and Lockerbie. The Andreas Strassmeir link to Tim McVeigh. Mohamed Atta studying in Hamburg. This German link - might be connected to Operation Paperclip - when the US co-opted members of the Gestapo in the wake of WW2 to help fight the Cold War. Its rumored that the descendants of the "Rat Line" are still working for the CIA today.
32peartree 9 hours ago
@32peartree lol the mind of a crazy person is very interesting indeed, who wired your brain? bob the builder?
MyHirogen 9 hours ago
@MyHirogen At least I've got a brain - unlike straw men like you.
32peartree 8 hours ago
@32peartree I did not pull a straw man, I called you and idiot, learn the fucking difference, idiot!
MyHirogen 6 hours ago
@MyHirogen "the mind of a crazy person is very interesting" unlike your mind which is very boring. "Bob the Builder" - is that your best? Go back to sleep clown.
32peartree 8 hours ago
@32peartree I don't live in your timezone, idiot, "world wide web", notice the word "world"? idiot
Also your mind is more fun than mine, I never argued that, infact your mind is fucking funny as hell lol
MyHirogen 6 hours ago
@MyHirogen But in a sense you're right - this stuff does sound absolutely bonkers. But I'm afraid that Cuban Exiles and Watergate, Iraqi exiles murdering Dr David Kelly (Norman Baker MP "The Strange Death of Dr Kelly")- the "Rat line", where the CIA actually recruited the Butcher of Leon, Klaus Barbie - to teach South American fascists in the black arts of torture - IS ALL TRUE. Check them all out on wikipedia - its all there in B&W. Sometimes I wish I was just paranoid.
32peartree 8 hours ago
@32peartree No need to wish for it, you are fucking paranoid and stupid.
MyHirogen 5 hours ago
@MyHirogen I didn't accuse you of pulling a straw man - I don't think you're capable of of it - what I meant was - you are a MAN OF STRAW. Like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz - if you only had a brain then you might have worked out that a term can have more than one meaning. And who wired YOUR brain? Not Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner by any chance?
32peartree 4 hours ago
@MiracleMile90 So If the 911 plot was ever exposed - the CIA/NSA etc would deflect blame from themselves and pin it on Israeli zealots - its called the "Blow Back" principle. A similar example is MI5's use of Iraqi Exiles to "suicide" Dr David Kelly.
32peartree 9 hours ago
The peasants below me are do dumb that they won't even get it when I, a genius incapable of framing a coherent sentence for some reason -- LOL! -- call myself "LeadVitamin" as I go about seeding the landscape with poison. LOL!
The objective of this lesson is for you to comprehend psychological operations and how they may be employed to influence an adversary's behavior.
Bernadotte01 1 day ago 2
@Bernadotte01 Your not me bro.
LeadVitamin 1 day ago
@Bernadotte01 Well spotted with Lead Vitamin - the name is quite sinister - specially for someone claiming to hold progressive views. But I think EDGEMAN is closer to his or her real identity. A super Zionist Zealot - who thinks anyone critical of Israel is a Nazi sympathizer. Sounds a little like the Mossad backed "Anti Defamation League". But their slurs won't change my mind about the many friendships I've had with Jewish people over the years. Alas, it seems its a case of Israel r-o-w.
32peartree 1 day ago
@32PearSButler You we're more than just "critical" of Israel. Blaming a certain group of people for all the worlds problems and accusing them of hogging all the worlds wealth isn't being critical, that is what we call racism.
Alot of people realize conspiracy theorists are racist, I've seen people come here calling Chomsky everything from a Zionist Jew to a heeb and a kike. Fine with me though just makes truthers seems like the irrational emotional hate filled people they really are.
LeadVitamin 1 day ago
@32peartree You see ant-semetic slurs again. Also trying to draw me in to verbal fisticuffs - so as to show me as a jew hater - standard techniques - familiar from the mass media transposed on to You Tube. I think what he or she is referring to is my interest in the Rothschild dynasty - I'm trying to work out whether there's anything to the conspiracy theories - but regardless of them being Jewish - I do find the the Rothschilds fascinating - I mean how much are they actually worth?
32peartree 1 day ago
@32peartree But even if the Rothschilds are incredibly powerful - which I haven't made my mind up about yet - this in no way reflects upon the average Jewish person. That would be like blaming the entire Italian race for the mafia or seeing all Americans has Muslim hating, bible bashing, George Bush supporters.To this effect Israel is like any other country - a majority of its population being made up of decent law abiding people yet with a small minority of over zealous reactionaries.
32peartree 1 day ago
@32Adolf <--More crying.
Edge wins.
Another surrender accepted. Another successful debunking. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@32peartree Coming on here like a 12 year old and just making a blanket statement of "SHILL!! SHILL!!" is the epitome of ignorance especially with no evidence. Then going "BLAH BLAH BLAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU, 9/11 INSIDE JOB!!! BLAH BLAH BLAH" is incredibly ignorant
If you could come on here and refute all our arguments it would be much better than crying shill but you know you can't do that so you have to settle for crying shill.
Face it you lost dude, just too stupid to know your dead.
LeadVitamin 18 hours ago
@32peartree: My research has indicated that although the Rothschilds do still have some influence, especially where finance is concerned, their overall impact seems to have been quite greatly overshadowed by that of people like the Rockefellers.
MiracleMile90 20 hours ago
@MiracleMile90 I think we all grew up with this naive notion that politicians were running the show - but we're beginning to understand that this was all an illusion. Governments are basically corporations borrowing money from the bond markets. But this shouldn't be a revelation really - given capitalism was always going to be run by CAPITALists. But the point is - is this a good or a bad thing - are such dynasties as the Rothschilds or Rockefellers - angels or demons?
32peartree 16 hours ago
@32peartree Edge is right basically.You come on here crying "shill" to each poster basically shows your arguments are so weak that you have to personally attack us.
If your arguments were that great for 9/11 being an inside job they should be able to stand up to scrutiny from anyone, even "shills" You should be happy to go up against "shills" cause if the evidence and arguments for 9/11 being a inside job were really that great it would be easy to refute their arguments but you can't
LeadVitamin 18 hours ago
You are engaging with the army typing pool - what's the point. Just ignore them and talk to each other. Of course, they are good - THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL. Like "Private Joker" in "Full Metal Jacket". Military desk jobs who like "staying in the rear with the gear". Hey - who can blame them - sure beats risking your ass in STAN.
32peartree 1 day ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The people shilling for the "official" conspiracy theory starring "Bin Ladin and the Boxcutter Guys"" are ALL USGov PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS agents.
Our job is to hang in there until they are HANGED for treason, b/c they piss on the graves of those 3000 people burned alive with their lame attempts to cover-up.
US Army Procedure manual is easy to GOOGLE.
"FM 3-05.301 (FM 33-1-1)
MCRP 3-40.6A Psychological Operations Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures"
dpetrano 1 day ago 2
Operation Northwoods was a false flag terrorist plan approved in 1963 by the Pentagon and Secretary of Defense MacNamara. It remained secret and classified until released by the JFK Library in 1997.
Northwoods was a plan to hijack US airliners, crash them into civilian/military buildings and blame it on Cuba. Does this ring a bell in terms of 9/11?
Thank Ted and Caroline Kennedy for releasing the info. Thank JFK for refusing to go along with it, although his refusal cost him his life.
dpetrano 1 day ago
@dpetrano False
1) Rejected by Mcnamara
2) it did NOT EVER indicate crashing hijacked aircraft into Cilvilan or Military tgts
Thank DPussy for being the foil I use to debunk the kookspiritards. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@dpetrano: True. My research suggests that his support for the Civil Rights Movement played a major role in his assassination as well.
MiracleMile90 1 day ago
@MiracleMile90 I'll tell you a slam-dunk conspiracy we can prove tomorrow - the assassination of Bobby Kennedy - the evidence is all there - a jury would find Sirhan Sirhan innocent - no doubt about it. And why are assassins so accurate when they are shooting at Democrats - JFK, King, RFK that congress woman in Arizona - but when it comes to Reagan, Gerald Ford, Nixon etc- the lone nut jobs suddenly become the gang who couldn't shoot straight.
32peartree 1 day ago
Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, STATES SECRETS PRIVILEGE is increasingly used to dismiss entire 9/11 related court cases, instead of only withholding the sensitive information from a case.
see, Lewis & Clark Law Review, published by Lewis & Clark Law School, Volume 11 / Number 1 / Spring 2007
dpetrano 1 day ago
I don't pretend to be important- but the Internet is. The difference between the internet and other media outlets- is that it is not controlled by big business and, as yet, is still a democratic forum. So when they use taxpayers money to try and manipulate us into accepting the official line regarding 911 this is immoral and tantamount to state propaganda.You are essentially paying to be propagandized. So I implore you to continue to refrain from verbally sparing with these intellectual thugs.
32peartree 2 days ago
Everyone you'll have to excuse 32peartree hes extremely paranoid and has delusional paranoid fantasies about secret agents on the internet that would bother to waste their time with him even if their were.
LeadVitamin 2 days ago
SHILL ALERT! SHILL ALERT! SHILL ALERT! The gloves are off - they've just swapped tag teams - DON'T ENGAGE WITH ANY OF THESE IMPERIAL PROPAGANDA IMPOSTERS. They are so obvious - as if we can't see through their bullshit. But we have achieved a great victory outing DEVIANT MAIL - don't engage - just circumvent their media propagandist subversion.
32peartree 2 days ago
@32peartree Alright I figured it out, 32peartree or should I say 32RAPEtree ewww you like to rape trees.
LeadVitamin 2 days ago
Yesterday, 911 was an inside job,, tomorrow, 911 will still be an inside job. on the date 11/9/2012 (the revealing) 911 will be an inside job.
TheCrimsonsGhosts 2 days ago
@TheCrimsonsGhosts Why not reveal it now brah? No time like the present.
LeadVitamin 2 days ago
@TheCrimsonsGhosts And in another 10 years, you morons will still have zero proof. and shitheads like you will have wasted 20 years of your life on a pathetic walter mitty fantasy.
::grand canyon reverb::: EPIC FAIL!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
EdgemanLL2 2 days ago
@EdgemanLL2 I've proven it all to myself. That's all that maters on this one.
911 was is and always will be an inside job.
TheCrimsonsGhosts 1 day ago
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@TheCrimsonsGhosts You are 100% correct. The only people here who oppose you are USGov disinformation PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS agents who post here 24/7/365.
US Army/NSA "psyops" are here spewing their disinformation b/c they genuinely fear the day when their murdering rampage on 9/11 result in mobs of angry people pulling them out of their homes and burning them alive, just like: (1) the townspeople w/ torches at the end of the "Frankenstein" movie; (2) like they did to those 3000 people
dpetrano 1 day ago
@TheCrimsonsGhosts Notice how EDGEMAN/DEVIANT MAIL demonstrates perfect punctuation and spelling when he gets mad and sends rapid fire comments. This doesn't make any sense - has you well know - the angrier and faster you type the more mistakes you make. This proves EDGEMAN/DEVIANT MAIL is deliberately making mistakes to try and appear like a run of the mill You Tube Poster. If he or she were punctilious all the time this would give the game away - that they were military journalists.
32peartree 1 day ago
@32Nazi <--More Crying.
Edge wins.
BTW, Only a Nazi Journalist would oppose Israel. So, if you dont say you support israel, then you are giving the game away.
Bluff called, Adolf. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@TheCrimsonsGhosts Tralsnation "I have no proof. youre right Edge!"
Understood.
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@EdgemanLL2 You're a collectivist, desperate for approval. I'm not.
I have proven to myself 911 was is and always will be an inside job. That, is something I know, and you don't.
I don't agreement nor approval from others of what I know.
Sorry you do, but you're like everyone else.
TheCrimsonsGhosts 1 day ago
@TheCrimsonsGhosts
The "Edgemans" who appear on these sites are
"Psychological Operations" personnel on guard duty 24/7/365 to defend AGAINST truth, justice and the American way. These TRAITORS spew a perpetual flow of disinformation out of FEAR we will serve justice onto them.
It's clear the only ones who still peddle the official 9/11 conspiracy-theory side-show a/k/a "OBL and the Boxcutter Guys' are the criminal element who seized control over our USGov.
dpetrano 1 day ago
@TheCrimsonsGhosts <--of COURSE you seek approval from others. Thats the whole point of being a 911 Kook. In REAL life youre a sad, pathetic bastard who is wolely rejected by the same, and opposite sex. Laughed at, and Mocked by everyone you know.
Thats what makes you so susceptible to the 911 Kookery. You finally feel smart. You finally feel like you belong somewhere. Sad and Pathetic. Yet social. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
911 was an inside job.
TheCrimsonsGhosts 2 days ago
sooo how exactly does he "dispel" it? just because it is difficult for Chomsky to imagine that the US govt would do this. his reasons: 1) they would have to be INSANE (hmmmm) 2) if they had, it would have leaked (there is hard evidence everywhere) 3) and to take a chance on that would be meaningless (actually, they used 9/11 to create a "war on terror" & go to war in Iraq) 4) with any event, some things are "unexplainable" (you mean like a 3rd building collapsing for no reason?) LOGIC.
NewEarthRevolution 3 days ago
@NewEarthRevolution 1) Insane means insane, not doing things you don't like 2) zero evidence period. perhaps you need to learn what constitutes evidence. 3) Umm, al-Qaeda was around prior to 9/11 and WMD was used as justification for Iraq. They had Saudis fly the planes to go to war with Iraq? Makes no sense. 4) yes, unexplainable. That you can't appreciate that is your problem.
BRAIN. USE IT.
911sausageman 2 days ago
@911sausageman
Those of us who know 9/11 was an inside job are hip to the fact all 9/11 key evidence has been subject to GAG orders pursuant to the "States Secret Doctrine."
In terms of 9/11, you spout your disinformation such as "show me the proof" knowing full well ALL "proof" you speak of has been ordered sealed by US District Judge Alvin Hellerstein, USDCSDNY.
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dpetrano 2 days ago
@dpetrano ..okay.. so I guess conspiracy theorists knew they were making up all their so-called evidence these past 10 years of creating web sites and youtube videos?
A district court judge?! You guys will say anything!
911sausageman 2 days ago
@911sausageman Yet another change of character. You deserve an academy award. Seriously - you could teach Antony Hopkins a thing a too. Bravo!
32peartree 2 days ago
@32peartree <~~apparently having paranoid delusions.
911sausageman 2 days ago
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32peartree 2 days ago
@32peartree Since you seem to have removed you latest comment out of embarrassment, here it is: "Strange how you only just set up on You Tube yesterday - but anyway give my regards to the rest of the characters in your head."
ER, I joined May 29, 2011 you fool.. Was that yesterday? If this is as good as your investigative skills get, why should we listen to you about 9/11? I think the answer is obvious to all.
911sausageman 2 days ago
@911sausageman By the way RT might be blatant propaganda but why should media shills like you feel so smug - when you are engaging the same BS albeit with a little more subtlety - then again no subtlety whatsoever- the coverage of the Libyan civil war was an absolute disgrace. Syria and Libyan revolutions good - Yemen and Bahrain complicated. This is how you imperial elitist shills operate - and now you're moving on to YT - but you know what we're not gonna let you win - YT is ours so fuck you
32peartree 2 days ago
@32peartree I may be an 'imperial elitist shill" <~~hehe ,but at least I can read the damn 'joined' date on someones channel page. Moron.
911sausageman 2 days ago
@911sausageman I never said I was a District Ct Judge. I said I am a member of the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida. Go onto the official web page and check the attorney roster under the name David F. Petrano.
Soon enough, I believe POTUS-43 as Commander-in-Chief will be court martialed for treason. The topic is under serious discussion as I post here. There are in-fact numerous high ranking Judge Advocates who are well aware the attack on the Pentagon was treason
dpetrano 2 days ago
@dpetrano So you mean Clinton - arrested for treason?
32peartree 2 days ago
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32peartree 2 days ago
@dpetrano You pussy. The US has no states secrets act. Nor can Judges issue gag orders to anyone outside a case they are currently hearing. They cant just blanket a gag order out onto the whole country.
Fake Lawyer strikes again!
EdgemanLL2 2 days ago
@EdgemanLL2 Google:
"STATES SECRETS DOCTRINE"
dpetrano 2 days ago
@dpetrano Fake Lawyer. Google "Google is not a legal reference under US law."
Idiot. HAHAHAHAHAHA
You keep faking. Ill beep exposing. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 days ago
@EdgemanLL2
The Classified Information Procedures Act or (CIPA, Pub.L. 96-456, 94 Stat. 2025, enacted October 15, 1980 through S. 1482), is codified as the third appendix to Title 18 of the U.S. Code, the title concerning crimes and criminal procedures. The U.S. Code citation is 18 U.S.C. App. III. Sections 1-16.
ALL relevant evidence to prove 9/11 was orchestrated by USGov is determined CLASSIFIED by the TRAITORS w/i USGov who planned/executed and subsequently covered up 9/11 and OK City
dpetrano 1 day ago
@dpetrano
1) youre just copy and pasting off of Wikipedai, Because youre a fake lawyer who doesnt know the law herself.
2) Classified information is information that has some NATIONAL security value. It does NOT protect people who have comitted crimes against the country. For example, Under FOIA (Use Wikipedia to research the freedom of information act--since a FAKE LAWYER like you has never heard of it before) you can ask for the IDs of all covert US assets worldwide. But Natl security
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
Doctrine give the govt cause to not comply with foia.
However, if individuals have comitted acts of terrorism agains the US, there is no national secrity interest in protecting that crime. Same way President Clintin was not allowed to claim "national security" to avoid being a defendant in a criminal case.
Natl Security doctrine doesnt apply to individuals whio have comitted crimeinal acts. Even FAKE lawyers know this.
PWNED!
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@EdgemanLL2 Clinton's affair w. Monica was not a matter of national security, nor was Nixon's cover-up of the Watergate break-in.
dpetrano 1 day ago
@dpetrano Exactly idiot. And an attack ON the us by US govt officials would be an illegal act AGAINST the national security of the US. Not proteced BY the national security of the US. Therefore, as with clinton and Nixon, with NO national security interest, there is NO LEGAL standing for conspirators to claim national security priveledge.
As such, a hypothetical "inside job" wold not be protected by it.
Fake Laywer finally learns the law today!
Fake Lawyer swerves into the truth!
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@EdgemanLL2
Planning the false flag terrorism event OPERATIONS NORTHWOODS remained secret from 1963 to 1997=34 years.
dpetrano 1 day ago
@dpetrano Well, at least youve retracted the LIE that Norhtwoods was released by the Church comission.
you ARE capable of honesty!
Are you all right? Do you need to lay down? I know for traitors like yourself, your first adventure into the truth can be painful at times. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@EdgemanLL2 Google is secondary reference tool commonly used to assist in attaining primary references.
Your attack upon the truth reveals once again you are a paid USGov disinformation PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS Agent. Those of us here refer to you as TRAITOR b/c you attempt to cover-up USGov burned 3000 people alive to turn the USA into a TSA police state.
dpetrano 1 day ago
@dpetrano "Google is secondary reference tool..."
Thus proving this shithead doesnt even have an undergrad degree, much less a JD.
"I read it on Google, so it has to be true," would get any student ejected for academic dishonesty.
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
@EdgemanLL2 You are a USGov disinformation shill. I am not going away.
No one peddles the official 9/11 story line except USGov PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS agents. It is clear your co-conspirators are running scared b/c you are here 24/7/365.
dpetrano 1 day ago
@dpetrano I hope you DONT go away. Youre too fuxing funny!
Youre an alqaeda shill. You will committ acts of Terrorism against Boston. youve already admitted this. =]
Ben Arnold was offered a comission in the Brit Navy for his Treason. What did Alqaeda offer you?
Or are you a straight payroller for them?
EdgemanLL2 1 day ago
DEVIANT MAIL is almost certainly an agent of the US military - but I implore him or her to stand down and stop what they are doing immediately. This is an affront to the people they are suppose to serve and protect; as well as being a criminal subversion of democracy and a waste of tax payers money. Remember the guy in the Zimbardo experiment; just because someone in authority tells you its alright - doesn't mean you should blindly follow orders.
32peartree 3 days ago
So who are the "fuxing" idiots now?
32peartree 3 days ago
@32peartree Thought you weren't talking to us, now you want us to curse at you bro?
LeadVitamin 3 days ago
@32peartree You are. Still are. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Douchenozzle PWNED!
EdgemanLL2 2 days ago
"Note: in appropriate cases add the following element after element (1): that the person to whom the language was communicated was a child under the age of sixteen. Note: when the language is communicated in front of a child - this offence is punishable under the new article 120" - - So, to this extent - as You Tube is open to children under of age of sixteen - cursing on this thread could be a punished by "dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of pay and allowances and confinement for 2 years".
32peartree 3 days ago
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@32peartree
In respect to OK City bombing and 9/11, it is my legal opinion POTUS as Commander-in-Chief is subject to court martial for treason, irrespective of the fact such as thing has never been done. As I write this post, there are numerous JAG officers pondering the same thing, inc/ Lt. Gen Gen Dana Chipman.
David F. Petrano, Esq (FL)
dpetrano 2 days ago
article 134 of the Uniform code of military Justice (1) that the accused orally or in writing communicated certain language; (2) that such language; was indecent and (3) that, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
32peartree 3 days ago
Where was Lt. Col Steve O;'Brien when
1) flight 77 was terminated
2 flight 93 was terminated
Where was Dominik Suter?
Bernadotte01 3 days ago
@Bernadotte01 There's hundreds of instances of compelling circumstantial evidence creating plausible inferences strongly rebutting USGov "official" finding 9/11 was perped by 19 guys w/ boxcutters.
Here, USGov psyops "Edgeman/Leadvitamin" mission is to dispel doubts in the "official" 9/11 findings
I strongly believe some day, USGov psyops who perpetuate these 9/11 lies will be dragged out of their homes by angry mobs and lit on fire, so they experience the same agony those 3000 people did.
dpetrano 3 days ago
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@dpetrano "dragged out of their homes by angry mobs and lit on fire,"
LOL. so what are you wating for bitch?
Oh thats right. Youre a fake lawyer and a pussy. NOW I remember =]
EdgemanLL2 3 days ago
@dpetrano I don't think the perpetrators will ever face justice. Lead vitamin is here to poison minds, as stated by its choice of name. Other shill names are just as obvious, like "SnowCrash" and "Academic Lullaby" at 911Blogger. The expression of contempt for the audience is unavoidable for many shills, such is their naked hatred for the truth. anyway, re USGov psyops:
v=KVTz81tZPvk
pump up the volume
Bernadotte01 2 days ago
@Bernadotte01
These USGov psyops are getting desperate, it is obvious they are the only ones who still peddle the "official" treason here 24/7/365.
They FEAR an ending like last scene in Frankenstein, when Frankenstein was torched.
Support a FALSE FLAG TERRORISM PROHIBITION Act, making it a capital crime to plan, execute or cover-up any false flag terrorism event.
Given the fact no one was prosecuted for planning Operation Northwoods, it's clear false flag terrorism is considered legal.
dpetrano 2 days ago
@Bernadotte01 Don't listen to him he is going to blow up Boston and blame it on the government as a false flag attack so he can get his false flag prohibition act enacted. I'm not falling for it for one second, you shouldn't either.
LeadVitamin 2 days ago
@Bernadotte01 Deviant Mail (Lead Vitamin) is running under different identities - he/she also likes to play good cop/bad cop - or set up the phony left/right paradigm. But still no expletives - none of these nom de guerres ever use foul language. They are incredibly abusive but always manage to employ "swear filters" like "fuxing". And notice how they make childish mistakes in one comment then are word perfect in the next. Scroll back through their initial exchanges with Dpetrano.
32peartree 2 days ago
Notice how DEVIANT MAIL has laid off with the EDGEMAN alter ego for a while - since being outed. And still no expletives - even though a simple "fuck you" would be enough to dispel my theory. So come on DEVIANT MAIL give us some profanity.
32peartree 3 days ago
@32peartree Disinformation-traitors like "Edgeman," etc., somehow think that their USGov badges and emblems make them better Americans than us, in terms of their unfettered use of false flag operations where they typically burn innocent people alive and falsely blame it on others, as a means to further their sick-o police state agenda.
dpetrano 3 days ago
@32peartree "Web Tarpley warned me to not wander away from the cult compound without him. Man, I got so humiliated by Edge. I hope Web forgives me!"
Its cool man. You were too stupid to know what you were doing. I wont hold it against you.
EdgemanLL2 3 days ago
SHILL ALERT: Do not get drawn in to a conversation with DEVIANT MAIL (Lead Vitamin) or his or her other nom de guerre - EDGEMAN.
32peartree 4 days ago
@32peartree Edgeman/LeadVita are disinfo shills alright, they are members of the US Army "Psychological Operations" unit. False flag attacks and subsequent cover-ups are what they do for a living.
This is why there needs to be enactment of a "FALSE FLAG TERRORISM PROHIBITION ACT, to stop USGov from murdering masses of innocent Americans once and for all.
dpetrano 3 days ago
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@32peartree Edgeman/LeadVita are disinfo shills alright, they are members of the US Army "Psychological Operations" unit. False flag attacks and subsequent cover-ups are what they do for a living.
This is why there needs to be enactment of a "FALSE FLAG TERRORISM PROHIBITION ACT, to stop USGov from murdering masses of innocent Americans once and for all.
dpetrano 3 days ago
@32peartree Yes, and I also like to hangout in a basement wearing a robe and hood with my other Illuminati brothers around a pentagram and chant satanic verses.
LeadVitamin 3 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 "SHILL ALERT: Do not get drawn in to a conversation with DEVIANT MAIL (Lead Vitamin) or his or her other nom de guerre - EDGEMAN."
Lol peartree here is making up anagrams of my name as if every little thing has some deep dark secret and dpetrano is sending me poems. This is getting weird.
LeadVitamin 3 days ago
@32peartree "SHILL ALERT:"
Surrender accepted. Its what Kooks say, when they KNOW theyve been debunked. When they KNOW theyve been refuted and have nothing left.
Another successful conversion.
you can thank me later.
EdgemanLL2 3 days ago
@EdgemanLL2 Thought so - still no profanities - you are either Francis of Assisi or you've been instructed by your C/O to refrain from using bad language on the net. What was that line in Apocalyps Now "We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because its obscene".
32peartree 3 days ago
@32peartree Welcome back, thought you were ignoring us brah!
LeadVitamin 3 days ago
@32peartree Why would we curse at you? That isn't every nice, I wouldn't stoop as low as using profanity and ad hominem attacks. We are trying to have a substantive, intelligent and thoughtful debate here! And Frankly I'm offended at such an accusation, one might think you were trying to use such an argument do discredit us.
Is it profanities you want, then it is profanities you shall get, you sir are nothing but and dandy, charlatan and simpleton. I bid you G'day sir!
LeadVitamin 3 days ago
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@LeadVitamin
Let me tell you something you TRAITOR SOB, I'm very hip to the fact Army Lt General Michael Canavan is one of the main plotters for the 9/11 false flag attack on America. Canavan's traitors conducted 9/11 practice exercises as early as 1999.
Bring on a lawsuit for defamation.
David F. Petrano, Esq. (FL)
dpetrano 2 days ago
@32peartree More crying. Edge wins.
If it makes you feel better "fux fix fux."
I dont need to beat you down anymore. You surrendered. Youve admitted to being a brain-dead little sheep, just blindly believing whatever Tarpley says, never thinking for yourself.
In order to justify your self-discovered cowardice and idiocy, you try desperately to see more "patterns."
Pathetic. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 days ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
ctcole77 2 days ago
@ctcole77 from what I understand when a buildings basement is taken out it is to accommodate the rubble not initiate a starting point of collapse. If there was charges planted It would be possible that they were on remote and not every one would survive where planes hit but enough could. as far as confessions go people lie all the time. It is clear you support a side in this, but I don't. Just wanted to give some possible answers to your questions. Thank you for being logical.
Javeriffic 2 days ago
@Javeriffic Two Commercial Jets can not cause three skyscrapers to collapse - period. But the turkey's on this thread will start sowing seeds of doubt in your mind. They are engaging in the same tactics they spiel out ad infinitum in the mainstream media. It was only natural they were going to try and infiltrate YT - like every other information outlet. You have your own eyes to see - believe them. Don't engage with these war mongers - other than to expose them for what they are.
32peartree 2 days ago
@32peartree I do not care, and I think that my points support logic. I know that it was an inside job. I love great questions and responded to them, I do not pick sides and why should I. War is War and I lost no dog in this fight. And as you know they were not commercial jets. Death comes to us all. But great questions will be answered by me the best I can.
Javeriffic 2 days ago
@Javeriffic Well yea of course, they weren't planes they were holograms, and the planes that were hijacked and the people in them, well the government used magic to make them disappear. Its a big secret, the government knows magic exists but is keeping it secret.
LeadVitamin 2 days ago
@LeadVitamin I like your name. be easy my friend.
Javeriffic 2 days ago
@Javeriffic Of course they will appeal to your intellect - like vox pops in the mass media - but they will use your participation to destroy your position. I've been on this post for months now and I'm now completely convinced we are dealing with a disinfo operation - check out "CTV Confirms Government(s) employing internet trolls, shills and PR agents to correct misinformation". And remember Canada has often been used as a base for covert psy warfare operations - going back to cointelpro.
32peartree 2 days ago
@32peartree "Of course they will appeal to your intellect"
I can't appeal to something conspiracy theorists don't have.
LeadVitamin 2 days ago
@32peartree "Two Commercial Jets can not cause three skyscrapers to collapse - period"
I realize you are a world leading engineer, having recieved your advanced degree by watching YT one weekend
But two planes didnt take down 3 skyscrapers. The damage and fires caused 2 to collapse, and about a dozen other buildings were destroyed in the B1B2 collapses.
Period.
Youre grossly unqualified to make any other claims. =].
EdgemanLL2 2 days ago
@Javeriffic Just because youre too stupid to understand what happend isnt proof it didnt happen.
Dolt.
EdgemanLL2 2 days ago
LEAD VITAMIN IS AN ANAGRAM OF "DEVIANT MAIL"
32peartree 4 days ago
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It goes like this: Operation Northwoods set the blueprint for 9/11.
JFK/RFK intended to appoint a prosecutor to charge MacNamara and the Joint Chiefs of Staff for conspiracy to commit treason for having planned Northwoods to the final execution stage.
JFK did not want such prosecutions to occur until after he replaced the Northwoods planners sometime in early January, 1964.
JFK's failure to timely prosecute resulted in false flag attacks accepted as legal.
dpetrano 4 days ago
@LeadVitamin Those heavy metals are not good for your neurons. Here's a trick for you.
Google, CHOMKSY, 911, NO EVIDENCE
See how easy that was?
Or you can hear it from the horse's mouth, right here: v=uzNhAo1zBD4
"THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION REFUSED TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE. ...BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY"
The myth-enforcing fraud who posted this video doesn't have ethics of course, otherwise it would make note of Chomky's change of heart in the video description.
"THEY HAD NO EVIDENCE" - Chomksy
Bernadotte01 4 days ago
@Bernadotte01 You think this is news to me idiot? Read back through my comments I told dpetrano this not less than a day ago. God you people are dumb.
"The plot had been hatched in afghanistan but was implemented in the united arab emirates and germany" by Mohamed Atta who was the leader of a independent terrorist cells operating outside the leadership of Al Qaeda.
If you don't believe me go look at one of the comments I made 7 hours prior to this one.
See how easy that was?
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
@Bernadotte01 Everything said in this video is consistent with the one you linked, so I'm not sure what your trying to do here besides make yourself look like a retard.
Just cause people think the leadership of Al Qaeda had nothing to do with 9/11, and their probably right, doesn't mean and independent terrorist cell of Al Qaeda acting autonomously didn't commit 9/11. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
@LeadVitamin
An "independent terrorist cell" is maybe capable of attaining some black powder to stick inside metal pipe.
You are a FRAUD USGov shill to even remotely think some "rogue" AL Queerdas managed to pull-off that circle/decent maneuver at the Pentagon. I understand a pilot would have to have the skill of Chuck Yeager to pull off a stunt like that.
I promise you, some day you and shills like you will be dragged from your homes by angry mobs and burned alive for doing 9/11.
dpetrano 4 days ago
@dpetrano Still the same big event = big cause child like mentality. Just like JFK and how conspiracy theorists fragile pea brains can't comprehend the leader of the free world could be taken out by a no body with a rifle.
And yet Tim McVeigh blew up a building. I didn't know you had to do a double backflip barrel roll to crash a plane into a building, least your not one of the wackos saying it was a missile.
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
@LeadVitamin Tim McVeigh's explosive concoction is NOT what blew up the OK CIty Fed building. Many explosive charges were placed/detonated throughout the OK City Federal Building to ensure maximum loss of life.
OK City was another in a long string of false flag attacks.
I suggest you see a movie written/produced by retired OK CIty LEO and FBI who lost family at the OK City Courthouse. It's called "A NOBLE LIE Oklahoma City 1995"
False flag terrorist events as it stands, are perfectly legal.
dpetrano 3 days ago
@dpetrano Yes everything bad that happens was perpetrated by the government, and I'm the delusional one that believes fairy tale stories.
LeadVitamin 3 days ago
@LeadVitamin
Are you suggesting USGov's Operation Northwoods false flag terrorist plan to hijack US passenger planes, crash them into civilian/military buildings and blame it on Cuba is a "fairy tale?"
dpetrano 3 days ago
@dpetrano the truth is Vitman insults you for your "childlike mentality" when he subscribes to the biggest fairy tale in history - the Warren Report. But don't take the bait - lets circumvent their shill tactics.
32peartree 4 days ago
@dpetrano And notice how Vitman still refrains from using expletives. Are there any defamation laws against federal employees swearing on the internet?
32peartree 4 days ago
@32adolfbinladen oh you exposed me...
LMDAOOO!!!!
LV wins! Pwned!!!111!! etc etc. etc.
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@32peartree but im on to you mr. pearGenSButpetrano....
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
@32peartree And if your going to think we're the same person atleast use "Leadman" your "Vitman" sounds dumb. Or even Vitaman still sounds better than Vitman.
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
@Bernadotte01 Here is a video where Chomsky says they killed Bin Laden and buried him out at sea cause if they kept him alive he would have to be put on trail which would be aweful for them cause they didn't have any evidence that he had a significant part in 9/11.
/watch?v=plMAmK_m1E8
Its like if Seal Team 6 went and shot up Iran on their own without any orders, it wouldn't be Obama's fault but they are part of the US military just like the 9/11 terrorists were part of Al Qaeda.
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
@LeadVitamin SHILL ALERT: scroll down and look at my advice to Beauexq. If I was you I wouldn't engage with Vitman - as he or she is probably some government shill. If you don't believe me just tap "911 Shills on the internet" into your YT search engine and see what you find out. Apparently YT is infested with them.
32peartree 4 days ago
@Bernadotte01 Actually Lead Vitamin/Edgeman - or rather should we call him or her Vitman - as raised an interesting point - in that the "official" plot for 911 was partly hatched in Germany. A German connection keeps cropping up time and again in relation to terrorism against the USA - think the Andreas Strassmeir phone call made by Tim McVeigh, think about the Frankfurt airport luggage switch before flight Pan Am 103 exploded over Scotland. And last but not least - think Operation Paper Clip.
32peartree 4 days ago
@32peartree Mohamed Atta studied structural engineering and architecture in germany and he managed to to destroy 3 building and irreparably damage several others, imagine that!
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
@EdgemanLL2 Well we got pear to doubt himself, but then he went back to the 9/11 truthers with almost a cult like fervor. Imagine that.
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
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@dpetrano How are you adamantly against terrorists having committed 9/11 if you don't even know it all that well? Al-Qaeda operates in independent terrorist cells who rarely make contact with the leaders. The majority of the foreign press and Chomsky himself thinks that Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11 and their probably right, cause it does seem improbable that he could organize such a plot from "a cave in Afghanistan."
LeadVitamin 4 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 Like the retarded kid that wears sweats all the time and smells funny who keeps on coming back to the playground day after day only to be made fun of by the other kids peartree has finally learned that he can't win and its better to just stay away. Not that I'm saying I would beat up a retarded kid but I can make an exception for conspiracy theorists. At least retarded kids know their retarded unlike conspiracy theorists.
LeadVitamin 5 days ago
Dear dailybackground, Please learn what the word "logic" means. Hint: It never involves the word "unlikely".
beauxq 6 days ago
@beauxq Take your own advice. Logic is a discipline that relies on reasonong. And the likelyhood of a claim being true is part of a logical conclusion. Its simply the difference between possible and probable.
For example, There is exactly as much evidence of "911 was done by invisible robot dinosraurs from Mars that eat buildings and piss burning jet fuel" as there is for an inside job. The immense unlikelyhood of this event being done by robo-dino's (or an inside job) disqualifies it.
EdgemanLL2 6 days ago
@EdgemanLL2 The likelyhood of a claim being true is not part of a logical conclusion. Logic has nothing to do with probability.
beauxq 5 days ago
@beauxq "Only a sith deals in absolutes." -Obi-Wan Kenobi
LeadVitamin 5 days ago
@beauxq actually, it does. Occams Razor, for example.
Would you like to google that yourself? Or would you like it explained?
EdgemanLL2 5 days ago
@EdgemanLL2 LOL OMG Dude watch the video peartree is talking about. I don't know what your supposed to take away from a video like that but its definitely not information.
LeadVitamin 5 days ago
@LeadVitamin 32Adolf has surrendered, hes admitted that hes too stupid to think for himself, and relies solely on Tarpley to tell him what to think.
If Tarpley told him 911 was faked, and the proof is that there are no odd-numbered days in the month of September, that moron would insist its true. Then call anyone with a Calendar a govt agent from Florida!
Its the true nature of the Kook movement. Retards unable to think for themselves repeat what Tarpley tells them to think, because
EdgemanLL2 5 days ago
cont) he thinks it makes him sound smart.
911 Kooks are genuinely very stupid people (minus guys like Tarpley who bank off the morons) who are so self-conscious, so embarassed at their retard-level intellect, they are insanely desperate to sound smart.
Thats truly why kook eventually hide like 32 is doing. Every exchange he has is a slap accorss his face, reminding him what a gullbile fuxing idiot he is.
Blaming us is mearly the defense mechanism to assuage her himilation. =]
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@EdgemanLL2 But like the retarded kid who thinks the other kids don't like him cause they don't understand him, when its really cause he acts and says weird crap and smells funny, peartree probably like GenSBulter will probably go on thinking they secretly know what is really going on at that we're brainwashed shills that are too scared to believe that 9/11 was an inside job and that our level of opposition is a testament to our indoctrination as a result of government propaganda.
LeadVitamin 5 days ago
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@LeadVitamin
You and "LeadVitamin" are one in the same poster. you are a FRAUD operating under MCRP 3-40.6A Psychological Operations Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures"
Tonight, POTUS lied AGAIN about the OBL 'raid" which never occurred, b/c if it did, the body would have been delivered for independent autopsy, as was the executed Nuremburg Nazis.
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beauxq 5 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
beauxq 5 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
beauxq 5 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
beauxq 5 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
beauxq 5 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
beauxq 5 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 I'll quote from what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
beauxq 5 days ago
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@EdgemanLL2 From what I found with google. "Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic, and certainly not a scientific result."
beauxq 5 days ago
@beauxq SHILL ALERT - Lead Vitamin and Edgeman are probably one and the same person. A military disinfo operative based at the Joint Special Operations University in Florida. I'd advise you not to engage with any anti 911 Truth arguments posited on this thread. Check out "Webster Tarpley identifies shills infesting 911 Truth" on You Tube. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
32peartree 5 days ago
@32peartree SHILL ALERT. Adolf admitted hes a blind follower of Tarpley, never allowed to think for Himself.
=]
EdgemanLL2 5 days ago
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@beauxq DUMBASS ALERT - @32peartree is a dumbass that will tell you things that aren't supported by any type of evidence or facts and is probably more of a woman than man. She is a obese truthtard based out of her mom's basement and rocks a tin foil hat. I'd advise you not to engage with her if you like things like facts, evidence or logic. Check out "Webster Tarpley identifies shills infesting 911 Truth" on You Tube. If you want to have a seizure and have your IQ go down 20 points.
LeadVitamin 5 days ago