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  • what did you expect? these delusional people talk to an imaginary guy named jesus.

  • That last statement by Ole Anthony really spoke to me, I must say I have been somewhat put off Christianity, due to hypocrisy and falsehood. But as he said 'let the dead bury the dead', its between us and God.

  • BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS AND FALSE TEACHERS!

    2 Peter 2:1-3 (Amplified Bible)

    ...And many will follow their immoral ways and lascivious doings; because of them the true Way will be maligned and defamed.

    And in their COVETOUSNESS (lust, greed) they will EXPLOIT YOU with false (cunning) arguments. From of old the sentence [of condemnation] for them has not been idle; their destruction (eternal misery) has not been asleep.

  • Know what is funny? Ole "the saint" anthony is using his very status as one who is exposing lurking evils, to gain the trust of folks who he will do the same thing to if given the chance. Ole Anthony is a cult leader. Does anyone know what the trinity foundation really is? It is a CULT. And a freaky one at that. It's true....you never do know what people are really up to.....Ole really has you all fooled. Crazy.

  • No, that's not what what Jesus would say. He would say is it harder for a rich man to get into heaven than a camel go through an eye of a needle. He would say, You are unsaved and going to Hell because you will never give up all that own and sleep on the streets with the poor. You are "condemned already" (John 3.18).

  • But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

    For the love of money is the root of all evil. - 1 Timothy 6:9-10

  • he is asking all the right question ,

  • Ole Anthony is the same as those he criticizes. He is a fraud and a sharlatan.

  • Oh really? What do you base your statements on? Do you have any facts? I applaud Anthony for his courage and his relentess pursuit of these horrible criminals! Yes, he is a minister but he seems to actually try and practice what he preaches! Give us some facts before you make these statements, pal!

  • I hear alot of criticism but i dont see any of those two guys donating to the poor or doing any good deads....

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    God says that every man that believes in him SHOULD live in prosperity and that is a promise that GOD himself made....

    so those guys are stepping into very dangerous grounds denying GODS promises

  • @electrekgraffartist spiritual prosperity, read you bible.

  • That was Jesus choice-I would have been a rich god!

  • Those who are deceived have accepted the seducing lies and vast array of heresies that although are made manifest by the Holy Spirit, men will not heed the truth, they instead give glory to men, they put their trust in these men, they defend their false doctrines, and they look for salvation through these False Teachers as opposed to obtaining salvation through Christ. God will speak to the hearts of men concerning delusion and salvation but disobedient men will have no desire to listen!

  • Jesus lived His life as if he did'nt belong to this world.God would not say that,what he is saying but it's all ready in the book what He is saying!

  • who would jesus opress?! how stoopid r religious zealots?

  • please read matthew 26:7 man, women with alabaster jar

  • so i guess u gotta be poor if u a preacher..

  • Not necessarily. You can be poor or rich; it just matters whether their greedy or not. Which these people are being.

  • DTownMichelle tell me whats your view of Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Keneth Copeland, you know all those guys we see on the box.

    Are thay doing Gods work, or are thay doing there own? Please tell me.

    God bless...Andy.

  • They are doing their own. There is no glory given to God in what they do. It is all man centered. Not God centered.

  • I would like to know the scripture that he was quoting, if he was.

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  • Just like christianity is a blood cult and its followers such as Creflo Dollar and Benny Hinn are its hypocrites?Please.

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  • DTownMichelle.. Have you met with ole? we have stayed with trinity for a week, they are not a cult or mess/jews, they are doing investergative work into fraudlant activities, and people WILL go to prison...Sorry to put you right! But you are out of line...

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  • I find it hard to believe what you have written, all I know michelle is this, and it was spoken from the Lords mouth, he said LET NO MAN DECIEVE YOU!, in the end time michelle their will be deception, I think we are being decieved by most if not all people, its just how we are, we are wicked evil beings most of us anyway, I know I myself have been self centred and I am trying to address that.

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  • Miclle, if I was a little mean with my comments I am sorry...Love Andy in the uk.

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  • God live in golden palace.Hahaha and surley his childeren must be rich jesus said 100 fold

  • God is not poor and his Childeren surely not.God is RiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiCh and the Devil is getting mad is he is becoming pooooooor

  • you guss just need to mind your bussnes it just a car wat did they make the car for to drive stop hating

  • so because Jesus was poor, we have to be poor too??? if God blesses a lot you what do you do with the money

  • God gave us everything. Our God's rich. The reborned chistians are his child so we're rich to. God Bless Benny Hinn, Kenneth Hagin , Kenneth Copeland, Keith Moore, Bill Winston, Jim Sanders and all of the real servant of God all around the world. Be rich for GLORY OF GOD.

    A christian gotta be rich, cuz we gotta save a lot of people from the death.

    I.Timothy 5:17,18 The laborer is worthy of his hire, reward.

  • Ha you are a fucking zombie who cant see crooks right in front of him if it swiped your wallet.

  • these people/pastors are not jesus they are human being just like you and me get a life

  • I'm currently attending a church in OldBridge New Jersey called Calvary Chapel Church. It can be also viewed (If your interested), on the web.Pastor Lloyed Pulley has a radio broadcast called Bridging The Gap ,this can be listened to on the web also!If Benny Hinn helps you on your walk with christ great.Right now I'd rather go to a smaller church and attend with people I know from the community.I find these mega churches to be rather impersonal, I've visited a few.I did not mean to Diss you.

  • they don't have 23,000$ toilet the media is always doing the impossible to put these people down, how the heck are they gonna know how much their toilet costs have they been in this bathroom??? Don't let these people trick you please

  • $23,000 toileT. G-the fuck outta here. show me

  • 2Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.....

  • It is God's good pleasure to give us riches and prosperity. Jealousy is a terrible thing, and the clinton news network is hardly a credible source. You wanted seperation of church & state, so stay out of the churches business.

  • 2Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.....

  • If the prophet is false, then they will bear no good fruit. If the fruit they are bearing is good, how then do you suppose you fight against what God has willed into that ministry?

  • Where does it say that in scripture? Define fruit?

  • WHCWarrior,

    If the fruit you speak of is numerical growth, or money then that is an unbiblical definition of fruit...

    Muslims have lots of faithful members.. Buddhists, and Hindus have many numbers... Is this the fruit you speak of... Ihope not.

  • so you deny the countless thousands saved under these ministries? you know, the public bashed Jesus too, for doing what they thought he should not do....

  • I cannot deny them, but I cannot affirm them either...

    The fact that many of them are led by a pastor who distorts the gospel is a telling point though.

  • They are not false. They have the Holyghost but if they are buying $23,000 toilets they need to talk to God more often and learn how to listen to him about the poor.

  • My Brother, its All about them ,nothing more, nothing less. Would they put blankets on a homeless person, HAVE THEY? I really don't think so. "But lord have we not done this in your name" Christ will say"I NEVER knew you".

  • That would still make this issue, if true, between them and the Lord, not the government. But yes, many of these ministries have very large outreach programs to the homeless.

  • The goverment IS the people and some of them are devoted christians and I think there should be some type of audit. Just because there christians doesnt mean they can't face

    accountablility . They give away a buck, and buy themselfs a mansion thats stupid.None of the Copelands, Hinns, or T.D Jakes would be there If they had to work like Peter and Paul did. They will never be so humble and besides

    they were'nt rich.

  • It's funny that in one breath, you say these preachers are supposed to reach everyone and help the poor, yet in the next breath you say they shouldnt have any money. I would venture to say you have never met TD jakes, or Paula White. I have met them both, and find them both to be very humble. THe fact that they have been blessed when others have not creates controversy for those that have not been so blessed. it's called jealousy.

    The "people". never called for an audit.

  • You can be rich, but that more is given to, more is expected from. I just see them makeing a kingdom for themselfs instead of spreading it more toward the poor.I have met Robert Tilton remember him. He was the one who took the prayer requests threw them in the garbage and put the money in the bank.I can go on and on. LOL

  • Agreed

  • How do you know they have the holy ghost?

  • because of their fruit you dumbass,don't you see thousands of people coming to Jesus every day because of these people and you question if they have the Holyghost??? i can't believe that somebody that works its butt for God cannot have money but Marilyn Mason can??? America need to worry about better things than critizising the men and women of God

  • I love you wonderful words it shows alot about you heart and soul. Are you a christian

    or are you just pretending. Would you call

    any body on the street a dumbass, I dont think so.Lol

  • but i would to people like you

  • You haven't a clue to who your writing too!

  • ok whats soooo special about you, are you a pastor or something???

  • I'm not special, Its not about me or you, Its only about Jesus. Follow him regardless of my dumb comments.One day we will all give an account to god ,me, you and everyone else.Read the word ,AND test what the preachers say, some tend to pull things out of context.Adios

  • ok ok ok, i do have to say that i shouldn't have called you a d********, so please forgive me, i get what you're saying I think you're right. I just got a little upset because i've been very blessed through Benny Hinn, but please forgive me

  • I will no problem, I used to support as well as others some of those ministries but my focus is 1. Reading the word 2.Acting the word, which can be difficult.3. Talking to others about christ even though I'm shot down

    more often than not.I used to go to a spanish Assembly of god church in New York.I had a friend who attended that church but later died of cancer. The pastor said he may not have had enough faith.Several people left because of his comments and of course there is bitterness. Adios

  • I'm currently attending to a spanish church called Ministerio Int El Rey Jesus, yes i do have to say is kind of hard to talk to others but there is a gift called Grace, which helps you to do things you can't do in your own, just ask God for it and i'm sure hewill give it to you, and pleeease don't listen to the things these videos say, i'm a witness of how fake these arguments are

  • Blessed thru Benny Hinn?Yeah your still stupid,so he did bless you with that.

  • I love the Church and Creflo , Joyce etc. but a $23,000 toilet?Comeon!!!

  • Streets of gold,rubies & diamonds, all the glory's of heaven! My fathers house has many rooms, mansions they are, onyx,sapphires, wealth and riches that would shame the elite! He could have came in the most astonishing & magnificent of ways! Yet he came as baby, to a family who could not find room at an inn. Ask yourself..... why?

  • I don't have to ask myself why, the bible already tells me why! Observe.... 2 Cor 8:9 "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich. And don't say he meant in heaven, cuz the bible doesn't say that! Also what about Pro 10:22 - "The blessing of the Lord, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it". Face it, God is a GOOD PARENT!!!!, NOT A CHILD ABUSER!!

  • Jesus Christ, stepped down from his throne and glory, took upon Himself human flesh, and lived in it for thirty-three years. Was born in the ghetto,of a young virgin and an earthly father, in a borrowed stable, and placed in a manger. "PAID HIS TAXES", humbled Himself even the more in servanthood in that He being Lord of all, stooped down to wash the dung off His friends feet. What a tough act to follow.

  • I received my "first fruits" letter from Paula White today....I trashed it and didn't even open it! I quit tithing in the middle of 2007 b/c God showed me it was an OT practice not NT. Since then I've gotten a raise, $500 from a stranger, and rec'd a very large settlement that was way overdue. The only one's getting rich off the tithe is the preachers.

  • You stopped tithing because YOU LOVE MONEY!!! So much, that you can't even let 10% of it go! "No weapon formed against you shall prosper" is in the old testament too, are you going to stop believing that as well? True, the new testament doesn't force us to tithe like the old testament does, but why do you have a problem giving to God's house??

  • prizzle, If I tell the little neighbor boy that if he gives his ice cream to me today the Ice Cream Truck will give him between 10 and a hundred Ice Creams tomorrow is that Immoral? Stealing? Godly? UnGodly? If you tell the neighbors I steal ice cream from children, is that Moral? Immoral? Godly? UnGodly? Could I accuse you of just being jealous if you tell the neighbors I steal Ice Cream?

  • you people are lacking alot of knowledge of the bible....did Jesus want to live in poverty? NO! Jesus had the best of everything....he wasn't poor, Jesus wants his prophets rich! These pastor's do invest their money into the communities and give back what the church invests. The Royce Roce was given to Pastor Creflo Dollar by the church....These people have no clue what their talking about!

  • Are you serious? Jesus was not rich. He was homeless. You have no clue what you are talking about. Also, any church that gives its pastor a Rolls Royce is a severely misguided congregation, and they most likely got that way because of their pastor.

  • Are you a christian?? Like prizzle said: My thoughts on people with a poverty mentality......excuse makers! Rather than put themselves on the line by exercising their faith, they take the lazy way out and just criticize people who realize that "IF GOD LOVED POVERTY SO MUCH, HE'D LIVE IN IT"!!!!! It helps to know Jesus if you READ HIS WORD!!!!!!

  • God doesn't love poverty; He loves equality and hates selfishness and favoritism. There are enough resources money in the world for everyone to live comfortably. However, some people hoard far more than their share. Calling this selfishness anything other than blatant sin is disturbing.

  • It's not selfish that one person is a better steward than some others may be. Jesus himself said "the poor you have with you always" and "take from him and give to the one with 10 talents" "to him that hath, more will be given". Everyone will not live comfortably, because not everyone is disciplined enough to become good stewards over money! Don't hate those who have proven themselves to be Good Stewards!!

  • Good stewards are those that redistribute--that make strides toward "on Earth as it is in Heaven"--not those who hoard.

  • How do you know what they give?? or redistribute? It's possible that they give more than you even make. Surely you don't think that God requires us to give all of our money away do you? If a person is less fortunate than me, I will help them, but give to a person just because they don't make as much as me??? That's unbiblical!

  • 21Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

  • That was a Word from God for THAT PARTICULAR PERSON. And let's be honest, you don't believe that anyway! If you did, you wouldn't have a computer or the internet because you would have sold it, and went and followed Jesus! And how are u paying your internet bill? Must still have some money that u haven't given away yet!!!! Be serious now.

  • And for the record, you're leaving out the fact that 8 verses later (Matt 19:21-29) Jesus said in vrse 29 "And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life."

  • He means that we will receive it in heaven or in blessings that are not material. It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.  And I'm at a library, which is free.

  • Well he sure didn't say in heaven. And the Word also says, in Deut 8:18 "he gives us the power to get wealth, why would he give me the power to get something he doesn't want me to have??". And Abram was Rich, so was Job, David, Solomon, Ruth, Esther, etc. The list goes on and on. Are u saying they didn't make it in???

  • Those are all Hebrew Bible examples. Jesus brought a new law. Read the beatitudes, especially Luke's account. Read Acts. Examine how Jesus lived his life. Just be honest with yourself-does God really want you to be rich and others to starve? Would He really will that? Seriously.

  • Who said anything about others starving? You've got to be honest with yourself. Does God want you to struggle??

  • You made my point for me. No. God does not want me to struggle. But not just me. He doesn't want anyone to struggle. And I'm not proposing that we struggle. I'm suggesting that we should not drive BMW's and ridiculous things like that. This whole debate started over a pastor owning a Rolls Royce. I should not indulge myself when others "struggle," (starve).

  • Prizzle, actully... gold is refined in a crucible with fire. Do you want hardship and struggle for your children? You, no. Me, yes. It truly breaks my heart to see them go through hard times and struggles, but I know it is the only way to refine toward Godly character. Ponder this Prizzle: Abraham Lincoln was great... Was John Lennon great? Jon Bon Jovi? Mick Jagger? Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Madonna?

  • Jesus didn't bring a "new law". Anything that was taught by Jesus in the New Testament can be found in the Old Testament. He taught the beautitudes to give clarification of HOW to keep the law perfectly, because the Pharisees had distorted it.

  • Excellant reply my brother at least you are reading the word.

  • These mega preachers RAPE THE SHEEP in the name of God!! It's time to make them FOR PROFIT instead of getting all the tax breaks!! All other non profits have to show where the money goes.....

  • My thoughts on Mega Preachers, false prophets, and their guilable congregation's that makes them rich......"Birds of feather flock together".

  • My thoughts on people with a poverty mentality......excuse makers! Rather than put themselves on the line by exercising their faith, they take the lazy way out and just criticize people who realize that "IF GOD LOVED POVERTY SO MUCH, HE'D LIVE IN IT"!!!!!

  • PS, I am for NOT SENDING ANY TV BUSINESS (in christs name) a single penny.

    Instead... help the needy on your block.

    DO that fot Christ and make the world a better place. At least then you will know what your money accomplishes and the value of it will be well spent on a needy human.

    I guess doing it like Jesus did makes a lot more sense, one on one.

  • Church USA have a message of "God wants you to be rich and have things", yet all the scriptures (for those who read the bible) state, unless a man loses his life HE WILL NOT FIND IT.

    TO LOVE THE WORLD IS TO HATE GOD.

    okay.. time to decide who you gonna serve.. God or Money, you cannot have 2 masters (all found in the bible)

  • You cannot read just a vase in the bible ready the entire book. Search the scriptures. "The blessings the Lord make rich and add not sorrow." Rich in spirit, health, soul, and everything about you. God didn't make this work so the His enimies will be rich and His children to suffer. Think about it

  • delvin24

    Solomon lived before Christ was ever born. He was NOT a Christian, and his need for things and women messed up his life as well.

    Yes God gave him those things, but they screwed him up because they were more important than the one who gave them to him.

    Riches do not make you happy, read Solomons life and learn.

  • "Solomon lived before Christ was ever born. He was NOT a Christian"----- what difference does that make. So did Abraham, Noah, Job, David, Elijah, Elisha, Jonah, Moses, Enoch, etc... They all lived before Christ was born. Money doesn't change you, it gives u a means 2 express who u really are! If you're a pervert broke, you'll be a perv rich! If u love God broke, you'll just express your love 4 him more rich! I do!

  • You cannot read just a vase in the bible ready the entire book. Search the scriptures. "The blessings the Lord make rich and add not sorrow." Rich in spirit, health, soul, and everything about you. God didn't make this work so the His enimies will be rich and His children to suffer. Think about it

  • It's a matter of the heart. If all you live for is money.. money is your God.

    To defend money is to love the world and the things in it.

    These preachers say you need money to preach the gospel..WRONG. That is a lie. Talk to your neighbor, and disciple them to do the same.

  • Was Solomon a Christian? Had Christ come in the time of King Solomon?

  • King Solomon was the wealthiest Christian that ever lived. If he was alive today I bet he'd be driving a Rolls Royce or a Bentley. And the funny thing is....Solomon didn't even ask for wealth. God blessed him with his wealth. A $12 million dollar mansion can't touch Solomon's house. Read ya Bible.

  • and havemore than enough how come cnn never talks about their deeds in third world nations and the ole guy is not so far from sin as he is judging them all

  • hi last timei checked my bible most of the leaders seem to be quite well to do lets see abraham moses joseph ester and o ya before jesus ministry he was a carpenter which in those days would be like working in an oil company or more like owning one. so can we all stop have selective reading when we read the bible and they are humans for god sake its ok to be happy

  • Just b/c they were casting lots for Jesus' coat does not mean that he was rich. The prosperity preacher's have made that up to try to teach that Jesus was rich. He could of rode around in a gold chariot carried by 8 men, or pulled by the finest horses, but he didn't, he walked and once rode a humble donkey. If ur pastor is teaching that Jesus was rich and that "sowing seed" mean money...GET OUT OF THAT CHURCH...sowing seed is sowing the word into someone's heart NOT MONEY!! RUN!

  • well he did wear a 2000 dollar suit! after he was cruxified, the soilder"s split his expensive clothing! thats in the bible! jesus preached prosperity! read john 10:10 jesus said it's hard for a greedy person who makes money his god hard to enter! but not all tv preachers are safe! but i dont like to judge!

  • They're saying its a sin to be rich? I mean, the rappers are pushing benzes but we cant? That's crazy!! I'd rather die than to live day to day just trying to get by. (Is dude really a christian?) The bible also say that my people perish because of lack of knowledge. Maybe he just doesn't have enough knowledge.

  • Fourci:

    Quit twisting words. No one said it is a sin 2b rich. Rappers & Preachers should not b compared 2 each other. They r of the world, Christian's r not supposed 2 b. Why do u make the leap from "rich" 2 "just getting by"? God promises 2 meet ur needs. It is u who has the lack of knowledge. Jesus did NOT die to make u rich, he died so ur sins could b forgiven. Wake up! The prosperity gospel is a lie! google "false teachers"....

  • "Jesus did NOT die to make u rich"--- Well, 2 Cor 8:9 says " for u know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet 4 your sakes he became poor,(leaving streets of gold 2 live on streets of dirt) that u through his poverty might be rich!" -(leaving streets of dirt to live on streets of gold)

  • & don't say he meant spiritually poor cuz it doesn't say that!!!! If he was spiritually poor, how did he raise the dead, forgive sins, and heal???? Google "Money Cometh 2 the Body of Christ"

  • ARE U SERIOUS!!! you gotta be out of your mind if u think I'm going to serve a God who didn't want me to have more than enough. He is the God of more than enough Deut. 8:18 says remember it is he who gives us the power to get wealth. Why would he give us the power to get something he doesn't want us to have?

  • If you want to get wealth, then quit giving to these con artist preachers. It also says "it rains on the just and the unjust" so God chooses whom he's going to bless. You can't BUY his favor, although the pimps will tell you otherwise. Give to the poor in your community, not these big churches where all you hear is give some more. If the Prosperity Gospel works, where is your mansion, jet, plastic surgery, body guards, country club membership, box seats, etc?

  • ON ITS WAY!!!!! U don't think we should give 2 the men of God, but what about the widow who had enough meal for 1 cake to eat & then her & her son were going to die, and the prophet said, make me a cake first??? When she gave her last (2 the man of God) her and her son immediately started receiving prosperity(because it never ran out, it was MORE THAN ENOUGH!!!! 1 Kings 17:9-16

  • (part 2) Jewish people believe that promise! which is "Faith" acting base on what God have said. But the great news is this if one would accept Jesus Christ as thier Lord & Savior that promise is extended to them no matter what ethnic background (Gal 3:26-29). God wants us to be "prosperous" just as you would like your kids to have every need met (Mat 7:7-12).

  • The thing is this most people are uninformed about how it's the will of God for his people to prosper. Jesus died so we could be rich (2 cor 8:9). Poverty is part of the curse. Jewish people know this. God promised them through Abraham that they will be blessed (Gen 12:2). That's why today Jewish people account for 1% of the US population but 95% of the nation's wealth.

  • It still speaks of capitalism (maximizing profits with the available resources). They came to America at the right time (Industrial Revoultion) and they came to America with a purpose (the same reason people still flock to this country), to give their family a better life than what they had in that other country. Proactivity in one's life is the driving force of one's chance of obtaining a comfortable lifestyle. If life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

  • I agree. But it definitely helps when you can accompany one's productivity with a pyradyme that God has given me the ability to prosper (Deu 28:18) that if I be diligent God will cause be to prosper. An achiever's mentality.

  • take two kids aged 12, at kid(A) house his dad comes home and tells him that he just made a lots of money. that their are countless opportunities to increase and rehearse to him over and over that he can increase often. At kid(b) house, his dad tells him continually there's no jobs, that it hard out there, etc. who do you think will have the best chance to prosper?

  • the bible say,"beloved, of above all, I will that you should prosper even as your soul (Mind, Will, Emotions, & intellect) prospers." Our proserity in dirrectly connnected to the growth of our mind, will, emotions, and intellect) "As a man thinketh so is he." Jews typically believe they're prosperous before they even hav fruit of it.

  • when the majority of the people in the church are starving finacialy.and being abused by the police give that dam money up for lawyer fees.give the people money to advance there struggling buisnesses.stop spritualy pimping my people.wake up my brothas&sistahs and demand finacial statements and more.

  • OR teach the people how to get God to move on the behalf concerning their finances. Teaching them inorder to get their needs met they must learn the principles that governs the law of "seedtime & harvest" (God's Way of doing things). Mixing their "faith" with the Word of God which states Gal 6:7 "whatever a mans sows, that what he shall also reap" So in essence, if I need money, I must GIVE money, THEN I receive money.

  • childrencleveland:

    AMEN!! They should have to be accountable...the pimps treat the tithe and offering as their FREE MONEY! They are con artists at best, thieves at worst.

  • I do believe God wouldn't mind us having nice things. Didn't he say in matt 7:7-11,"ask and it will be giving unto you . . " verse 11'"If You being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children , HOW MUCH MORE will your Father in heaven give good giftd to those who ask Him". Besides, you comment of a toilet that costs thousands of dollars, what you think about streets paved in gold, foundations mades of valuable stones, etc.? Well, according to the bible that the describtion of heaven!

  • I'm so glad I belong to a healthy church that doesn't raise money up to Godlike levels.

  • the gospel is free, but it takes $ to spread it. Go to your local bookstore and take a bible off the self and walk out. See if nobody stop you. Money is just a tool. It only magnifies the type of person that you are. Your church could be even healthier if support the vision God given your Pastor with more money. Your ministry will have greater impact because it have greater resources.

  • These people are raising large amounts of money to finance their own personal lifestyles. Have you seen how some of these people live???

    I am well aware of the cost of spreading the Gospel; I work for a non-profit, listener-supported radio ministry. But they do not treat money as a God. They treat it as the tool it is, to accomplish what they feel God wants them to do.

  • BTW, unless you go to my church you have no business speaking on it. You have no idea what ministries we support. So until you can speak inteligently on the matter of my church, don't make ignorant comments.

  • I don't like that anchor on CNN. He Cuban but he plays the white game--he acts so white until it's convenient for him to be Cubana. He's really more annoying than O'Reilly.

  • I agree with you on this. But what goes around comes around.

  • Look at the expressions on that anchor guy face, he looks jealous.

    Playa hating punk.

  • yes he is.........benny i wish i can see you again

  • Dont you think this is what is meant in the Bible about those that "make merchandise of the gospel?" Its enough to make God sick!!

  • What...that part isn't in my bible. Mine says to sell overpriced trinkets and prayer cloths while preaching the gospel.

    ;)

  • benny i hope i can see you again ......your man of god

  • If being abundantly bless a sin, why did God giv Solomon riches? Matter of fact, the bible stated that there would be nobody more richer. Money is just a tool. It is part of our promise or benefit as a believer. read 2 cor 8:9, Jesus became poor that we can be rich. This substitution happen on the cross. He became our sins, sickness, and poverty, all on the cross. those things are the curse of the law. which are a by product of disobedience

  • Its an attack from Satan! They should sow more seeds (preferably into my bank account) and maybe God will send Mr Grassley away!

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