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  • good work here

  • Great video liked the quote about no forbidden questions

  • I think that science is the study of all living things

  • The statement at 0:35 implies scientific knowledge is the only valid form of knowing. This isn't accurate and is more compatible with scientism (see Wikipedia). Aesthetics, ethics, supernaturalism--for example--are beyond the limitations of science.

  • I could choke the shit out of these trolls for you* (predictive text)

  • God these trolls get to me, I loved the video. But I sure woosh I could come the shout out of these trolls for you.

  • some sweet info here

  • i enjoyed this vid

  • i do like this piece of music..it reminds me of my times in kenya it,s proper dark skies out on the plains the starlight is dazzling and the milky way is a wonder to behold

  • brilliant video

  • @thejameskan

    Thanks! It was fun to think about and to make...

  • i enjoyed this vid

  • Science is humans pocking things and naming them,and then jumping in the air thinking they own the world.

  • Youtubers, please take a moment to consider this quote by the great Carl Sagan:

    "Mindless entertainment in our free time should be replaced by intellectually valuable things that are equally entertaining. Brain Building by Marilyn vos Savant and other books like it do a good job of laying out all the ways education and intelligence can help us and more importantly how to foster intellectual growth. There are so many wonders that knowledge and the intellect can bring us." - Carl Sagan

  • Building 7 was a controlled demolition, science or fiction?

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    All I can tell you is that I had a growth about the size of a pea on my eyelid for two years and nothing would change it. The eye doctor said he thought it was cancerous but I did not have any tests. After 4 months of taking one b17 tablet per day and 15 apricot seeds per day the growth has totally disappeared.

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  • Science is the proof of reality it makes us realize new things daily we didn't know the universe or us could do it's also the the study of every particle in the universe and it could also be what makes us think of what else could possibly be in our universe for all me know there could be 2+ universe and those and our universe could be another part of a bigger universe never know its possible in other words Science challenges us to see what is real and what isn't...that's my opinion

  • The term science has only been around since the 17th century. In it's basic definition just means knowledge. The definition has been expanded to include The Theory of Evolution. Astrology is the art of interpretation of correlations of the solar system and fixed stars. The science of astrology is the calculations and knowledge of the universe. The art is looking at the chart . Science is good. The problem in the modern age is that many scientists don't practice science. They talk science.

  • Science is a process that attempts to understand the objective reality of the universe.

  • Science is definitively a social phenomena. An individual is always surprised by what the scientist(s) came up with. On the other hand, philosophy can be completely an individual thing.

  • Science is proof that God exists!

  • Science is an inquiry process. It is a tool to discover and gain scientific knowledge by the scientific method. Scientists work on hypothesis, theories, and models. Also, they have methods to minimize bias, such as double or triple blind conditions, which is quite useful. Anything that claims to be scientific, but fails to follow scientific method is pseudoscience. Science is a tool, not a motivation

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  • science is everything without it there is nothing. the only reason why some science is disputed is because it might not actually be real science but is an assumption because we cannot test somehing for an infinite amount of time. so actually we know nothing we only assume. but of course i could be wrong since by saying that my thought of science might not be correct. we dont know.

  • What about History? Sometimes historical arguements leaves me cold.

  • Science is a process. So is philosophy. I think for a person to believe in human/social science, one got to be some sort of Kantian.

  • there was no dmca claim filed against the music in your video; if it had been a DMCA the video would be removed. rather, and merely, the content was ID'd. big difference (Content ID vs DMCA). i expect somewhere in your windows license you can find the precise terms on using that music. have a nice day 2b no worries.

  • @floydstinkyboy

    It's a copyright claim NOT a DMCA claim

  • @2bsirius do you know what the C in DMCA stands for?

  • @floydstinkyboy in other words, what you said was a non-sequiter. 

  • There is one big difference between science and other processes, like business, or history. Science is a way of determining reality that bends over backward to test every idea to make sure that the scientists aren't fooling themselves.

    Scientists seem to be the only people who understand how very easy it is to fool ourselves, how very easy it is to be totally wrong, even when you think you are right. And so scientists go to extremes to make sure they they know what they think they know.

  • @neoaeonian

    That's why it's important to ensure that experiments are replicated, and to keep Karl Popper's idea of falsification as one of science's most important checks and balance criterion.

  • @2bsirius Re: idea of falsification

    I think that idea is unique to science. I haven't heard of it in any other field. Most fields are more concerned with the one mistake of live-and-let-live or the other mistake of proving themselves right regardless of the outcome.

    The phrase I like most (I forget who said it) that you could only hear from a scientist is,

    "That idea is so bad, it's not even wrong."

    Only a scientist gets that. That ideas that can't be wrong, also can't be right.

  • The nature of science is a series of back and forth steps a scientist makes to discover the unchangeable laws that govern the universe.

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  • @2bsirius This was truly wonderful. I was first taken by the music, as it is ferociously beautiful and then your words that share in many the many thoughts that are behind the youtuber that is you :) Thank you for making this vid and forgive me for taking like so long before I stumbled upon it :D

  • 'science is a process' I agree completely, however, this does not in anyway discount an Intelligent Designer, if the evidence obtained scientifically supports the hypothesis that reality is the result of intelligent causation. Science is a process. I do not believe there are any scientific, educated, credible apologetics that would refute this claim.

  • @whisper012 PS great video btw,

  • @whisper012

    Thanks :)

  • fuck u, wrong title for this crappy discussion!

  • good work

  • Thanks!

  • Although this is just pushing the question back one, but how about: who are the scientists? By explicating who you are, one may clearify where he stands in society. Perhaps, the title will be earned. Maybe there will be some introspection on the would-be-scientist. Or the society may generate some objective criteria for a person to become a scientist.

  • The question: "what is science?" is in the realm of epistemology- the branch of philosophy that studies the nature of knowledge. Science is a manner in acquiring new knowledge about the material/physical world.

    When someone says, "science is the most reliable way to approximate reality", the word approximate implies a lack of concrete knowledge. I believe that the study of science is beneficial for humankind.

  • A science teacher of mine gave this definition:

    "Science is the deductive process used to establish a consensus explanation of what objective reality is."

    He thought for a moment and then provided this amended definition:

    "Science is the deductive process used to establish a consensus explanation of what objective reality is *not*."

  • I think the distinction hard-science and soft-science is a good one. The hard science studies subject observing objects. While soft science studies subject observing subject.

  • Yes!

    Great comment...Thanks.

  • Excellent. Yep - science is a process of studying reality - to find the closest and most reliable continous approximation of reality possible -- no other method is better - not to make static conclusions - but to have some continously refined reliable model -- basically as you stated in your vid. I've noticed in the past - a lotta ppl seem to think it means technology. Then they cherry-pick all technology to say science is evil.

  • Man has the unique capacity to investigate reality. In one sentence in a book, The Promulgation of Universal Peace, 'Abdu'l-Baha' said about science, "Through intellectual and intelligent inquiry science is the discoverer of all things." If I might add in digression that religion and science are two knowledge systems that hold together the foundations of civilization.

  • Whoops, the question was what is science? not what is modern science?

    Obviously, the highest science is Pataphysics as delineated by Alfred Jarry and it includes all the others.

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  • 2bsirious...Look up "the fallacy of definition"...You will see ALL definitions open up a world of question...

  • As I remember the fallacy of definition it was about how definitions can suffer from a myriad of problems from misplaced analogy to being too narrow...The definitions of science found in most dictionary are far too broad to adequately define science...but, sure, you could say the same about a lot of concepts...Of course, the OED wouldn't exist at all if everybody adhered too strictly to the idea that definition is impossible.

  • "ALL definitions open up a world of question..."

    Isn't that statement just a tad hyperbolic? I generally distrust categorical statements, particularly when they are brief --- hit-and-run innuendo.

  • Yes, Freispiegel, that's what I was trying to say in my wordy way. You said it a lot better than I did. Thanks.

  • U wanna talk hyperbolic devices? Site this whole video...

    I raised a legit point....

    Sorry I don't ramble enough for you to consider me valid...

  • "U wanna talk hyperbolic devices?"

    You obviously enjoy talking about yourself.

    I'm sorry that you don't make cogent arguments so that I can consider you valid. Not that I am worried about this. You need not be worried either, as you will not be lonely in the trite remark camp.

  • I have a problem when people try to define "modern science" and when it began...Any methodical approach or discovery is A science i.e "he had his shot down to a science!" Science did not begin with Galileo ...

  • Science is a toco.

  • Science is a process of solving problems and settling rational controversies; a process by which we select from competing theories for high-fidelity predictions.

  • I would say the materiality of our universe has no regard for any idealistic scientific reality principle projected onto it. Im on the side of the object and its secret non-identity with itself, which it will never give up.

    What is modern science? An ideology that came packaged with the spread of capitalism and industrialization and, because of being too successful, has entered into its life beyond death, only existing to hide that it reproduces itself for the sake of reproducing itself.

  • OMG your annoying. The way you personify the properties of reality is bs. Of course the universe doesnt have a regard for scientific principles. But it doesnt mean we cant make models that have accurate predicting power. The models might not be the nature of the object in question but we often can not perceive a difference between the model and nature. So what do u call a difference you cant perceive? IRRELAVENT! I wish I could prevent idiots like you utilising products people like me create.

  • hi 2b!!!!!

  • Hello

    Would have just said 'hi' but it's too short a comment and makes YouTube mad

  • What is science? an epistemic procedure for determining the causal relationships between physical systems.

    What is a cause? A bedrock assumption of science which can only be answered by epistemic philosophy.

    What is epistemology? The philosophy of knowledge, where we make our initial assumptions that inform our methods (methods like science)

    What can be known aside from science? Aristotle's Law of Identity, Causation and other epistemic truths held as axiomatic in science.

  • 0:39 - Science education is certainly important, and it's true that many Creationists distort its methods and results, but is it really fair to make the blanket statement that "science" is superior to all other ways of knowing? Doesn't it depend what our specific goals are? Would the scientific method be the best way to interpret poetry or to get to know a new friend, etc?

  • Yes, I could and maybe should have said 'most efficient' rather than 'superior'...Probably not a good word choice...but I suspect that you might then ask superior for what?...and I guess I'd respond, "Research into the way material existence works." But I guess that could be seen as equivocal too. .

    I guess I've always been a bit defeated and baffled by 'other ways of knowing." But I'm certainly open to new ideas.

  • I would certainly agree that science is the best at answering empirical questions and solving technical problems. But not all questions are empirical and not all problems are technical. Some questions are moral, aesthetic, spiritual, philosophical, etc. Some problems are personal, emotional, psychological, etc.

  • psychology is a branch of science so yes science can help with phychological problems. But i think science can be used to help solve all your issues depending on how you define "science". It is rather tricky to pin down.

  • @antonyneal "But i think science can be used to help solve all" I have to disagree. Science has to assume certain things to make its accomplishment. For example science has to assume Math and logical truths and physical world.

  • Science because reality is awesome.... what a line, perfection, really!

    I'm so glad to see a video from you and my whatevers! it was good! Of course they usually are good when they come from the genius of Aunt Karen but this, wow.

  • Cool vid. What's the name of the music?

  • It's from a 1995 album by Habib Koite & Bamada. It's called I Ka Barra (Your Work)...

  • Science is an experimental method that both produces and evaluates its own objects.

  • I like it when "science" admits they don't know WHY. Why are optimists generally healthier and luckier than pessimists? And I love the New Haven study about some lucky people who seemed to have guardian angels.

  • LOL I love it when I see someone using the critical thinking test in the sidebar of my last video in real world situations! At least I'm guessing that's partly a source for that part of your observation.

    The New Haven study about guardian angels? Hmmm...

  • I didn't actually do the test this time, I didn't feel I could give it a correct amount of focus just now.

    I was just trying to locate my book with the New Haven study in it. The book has a questionable name, "The Science of the X-Files," but is useful as reference.

    Some people kept turning up lucky. They didn't know this! The scientists observed it. It was just inherent luck. Fun!!!!!

  • Science is a logical methodology of inquiry into the workings of the material universe. It is limited to what can be measured and observed.

    Science is not a methodology able of explaining that which is unmeasurable, or unobservable physically.

  • I agree,of course...But your view has encountered some problems in the late twentieth and early twenty first century in the fields of physics and mathematics...

    And before I get screams from anyone: Mathematicians ARE considered scientists...

    The problems revolve around the advent of ambiguity in measurement in physics & the introduction of conceptual ambiguity in the field like non-Euclidean geometry. These fields are still limited to what can be observed and measured, but it's problematic.

  • And in physics, it's the dilemma around the measurement of the velocity  and/or position of the photon...

    But I have no basic argument with your point that measurement and observation are paramount.

  • Mathematics still deals with the observable, and theoreticises on that basis...

    What about philosophy?

    Furthermore, what is science without ethics?

  • It's a wonderful discussion... thanks 2bsirius.

    I loved the book "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance: An inquiry into values"...

    Have you heard of it?

  • Philosophy is the step child of science...

    I think it has a lot of validity, but a lot of scientists think we're a bunch of troublesome gadflies.

  • "Philosophy is the step child of science..."

    Or science is a philosophy...

  • Lol no comment.

  • To me science is indeed an ongoing process, and results often change as theories are retested over time, as truth is so desired by most people. Knowledge is awesome, as is reality!

    That was exceptionally written, and by an exceptional woman! This "old hag" loves your vids! 5*****

  • Yup...

    Love your line, "Knowledge is awesome, as is reality!"

    Thanks

  • Excellent video and to answer your question I would draw on Popper's philosophy of science and emphasise the problem of induction, fallibility, falsification and trial and error.

    5*/fav

  • Thanks...and for watching the other vid too.

  • This is a bit embarrassing; it looks like I just took your answer and gave it back to you in a simplified form, when actually I wrote this just before getting the invite to watch the other video.

    In any case, you're very welcome and I am glad that you are continuing to make such great, informative and thought provoking videos.

  • Well, I think science is the best method we have to attempt to understand the nature of reality. But you pretty much said it all in your video. 5*****

  • Thanks

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