Linux Mint 12 Review | LAS | s19e08

[krux02]

installed linux mint 12 booted it ⇒ desktop freeze. Installed XFCE at least that doesn't freeze permanently.

[machinaeftw]

@az7450 uhh, you know Mac is heavily based on Linux, right?

[chome4]

The Mac operating system is based on Linux and so is Google's Android.

[forevergeeky]

@az7450 there isn't a design for Linux. Linux is a kernel. OS makers make distributions, so the distribution may copy OS X, but not every Linux OS does.

[DopeBoyMagic66]

Welp, decided id get my feet wet with Linux again, so i installed Ubuntu like many other noobs.

Its not what i remember, uninstalling this crap as soon as Linux Mint is done downloading

[kjah11]

in fedora press alt and u gan shut-down :P

[MECHAunitAMH1]

Even though I am on Verizon I am still glad I run MIUI/CM7 (I jump back and forth)

[astalkinglion]

This CarrierIQ is perfectly legal under national security right, and under homeland security, and FEMA, they need to be able to take over your devices and know where you are in the case of emergency is what they say, and in case you're a terrorist they have a legal right to presume you guilty and therefore spy on you.

[einsamste]

speaking of carrier iq.. have you guys mentioned anything on the show about googles datamining? its why i use ixquick now.

[einsamste]

its funny. i just got done burning a linux mint dvd. i had just tested windows 8 metro for 2 days and even after regedting it back to a 7 desktop i didnt like it. i was also really annoyed and was pissed off about ubuntu unity and their current direction. its like someone was reading my mind. will try Mint Mate out for sure here.

good going with reporting on the carrier iq stuff. i hope some people go to jail for some of this obviously illegal crap. more people need to know about it.

[ShayanTEC]

In Fedora, just press alt key and you're able to shutdown.

The mint menu is exactly the same as what you'll get in Fedora's Gnome 3 in Fall-back mode.

[HDYST]

great show!

[Me5age]

I really miss Brian! This other guy is a good guy but he sucks bad as a show host ;(

[Slanderous23]

@Me5age I like Allen alot ;) I think it would be pretty awesome to have all 3 though. :)

[youplaymenot]

Does Chris use MAC?

[rhYkhanz]

Well, sort of. I'm also a Linux Mint fan, but Linux Mint 12 is one big regression compared to Mint 11. They should've just focused on MATE and dumped Gnome 3 altogether. Hate Gnome 3. No right click reminds me of ancient Mac crap that nobody likes.

[aml240sx]

I hated Mint 12, I prefer Sabayon GNOME 3

[MetalxShredder600]

@aml240sx im using pinguy os 11.10 gnome shell edition. its very customized out-of-the-box style. very good and fast. check it out

[goblend]

I have nothing against Allan, but any idea if Bryan is going to come back to the show ?

[Spamazoid]

@goblend not anytime soon, read his blogs and his website he along with other members of the JupiterBroadcasting team that have departed in the past months have other ventures that keep them too busy

[LordBas2]

I don't want to be an jerk, but Chris is a Mint fanboy. Reasons? OpenSuse installs MP3 and flash support on the first update. Fedora has a really easy way by adding RPM-fusion and installing codecs. Any average computer user could do that. OpenSuse also has the power-off button by default installed (Fedora not). Please give other distro's a fair chance, they all have their pros and cons. I got the feeling that you only look at how great the menus are, instead of looking at the overall picture.

[Spamazoid]

@LordBas2 thats funny cause i hate Mint's menu but everything else is solid, yet OpenSuse and Fedora are horrible to work with in comparison. Atleast from my mucking around with them, Mint just works it doesn't need updates after install.

You are right though that each has it's advantages, Suse and Fedora have large repositories whereas Mint takes from Debian & Ubuntu and pulls good stuff from both.

personally i do think the Software Manager and Menu need an overhaul on the looks front

[hxMarius]

wtf ? they didn't fucking add toogle off notifications or other any other shit from the User Menu,thats default with gnome 3.2.The shell theme isn't made by them,been using it way before mint 12.They just made the panel bottom and some a few extensions + faenza icons.

(MGSE = Mint gnome shell extensions)

[tpiom]

I couldn't enable 2D acceleration in Virtualbox when I tried Mint 12 and had all sorts of issues during the installation. It crashed once, etc. This release feels rushed out. But I think it will improve, as usual, with time.

[Ubuntufrog]

hopefully Mint 13 will be a great release since it's most likely going to be an LTS version.

[JonathanIsrael708]

Can companies that give employees android phones sue the manufacturers for breach of privacy?

[JonathanIsrael708]

Devs/Cooks have been removing CIQ from Evo 4G roms for a while, even on Sense roms. But I always use and suggest AOSP (Android Open-Source Project) roms.

[beginusinglinux]

Looking forward to the studio tour

[velja27]

I think it would be better if you used the whole name Linux Action Show, it could attract more people who are interested in Linux. Just my two cents.

[LordBas2]

I tried the player on the jupiterbroadcasting site, but I couldn't get the html5-player working.

Tried it on Firefox 8 and Chromium 17.

What's up with that?

[thegasgranny]

Brilliant! I particularly like Allan's comments about "the type of people who chatter all day on Twitter probably aren't the same users who use Linux" - Golden :)

[22ness0hayden]

Mint 12 seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place. Gnome 3 needs work and Mate needs work. Mint 11 however works great but will be unspported within a year :-(

[Linux4UnMe]

Hold ALT key down to show the shutdown option on default gnome-shell.....

As for the best gnome 3 implementation.... I am quite suprised to See Pinguy 11.10 beta to have a far better gnome 3 Desktop.... you guys should give it a try

[TheChrisR12]

Carrier IQ = breach of privacy act???

[GOLDNIN]

I have been looking for reviews about Linux Mint in Youtube, and I've learned some good info's from you fox.

Great show and keep the up with the good videos!

[blackoutworm]

That was one great episode, I tell you what!

I liked your mint review too. Very fair.

In my honest opinion, I think Mint 12's release came a bit early.

Both Gnome and Mate are in early development. But sure they need feedback, and that's probably why they always seem to release these distros way before they are stable.

But still not the ability to buy paid software in their software center.

Could you guys do a tutorial on how to enable that feature In Mint?

I found a guide for Mint 9 / 10 only.

[WindyPower]

Thank you for bringing the "s19e08" tag back in the title.

[ipponsuki]

Performance wise Ubuntu still beats Mint 12, I think Mint can catch up to Ubuntu if they can polish their Mint 12 before Ubuntu 12.04. I would not install mint for a beginner or Ubuntu 11.10.

[Spamazoid]

Hey allan you can get bubblewrap games on IOS and Android aswell. I spent many an hour playing that game when i had my Iphone 3 :)

[Spamazoid]

Seems to be a bug in Mint 12 Gnome 3 desktop that going into the properties of a .run file it wont let you chose run as executable, ticking it just unticks it immediately.

Works fine under the Mate desktop, so you can install the drivers/software in Mate and then switch to Gnome 3 and its installed atleast thats the only way i could install the ATI drivers from AMD since for me the drivers supplied by the distro don't work with my HD 6990.

[k00LGuY671]

i installed the amd gpu driver via the additional driver. after i restart i also get that rainbow color all over my taskbar and text on menus look weird. also downloading the driver from amd, installing it, doesnt seem to do anything the whole thing still feels sluggish like if the gpu is not present. especially when i play on wine.

[mini3013]

Great show.

[bamdadkhan]

i don't like flashy desktops either, and i agree with allan, but you have to admit: that mate metacity theme (the title bars) looks ugly as shit.

[drnapster]

im watching this in mint 12 right now and loving it this is my new favourite distro

[screaminjesus]

The menu on the top right with the notification button is not something mint added, it was added with vanilla gnome 3.2. Also the tool for tweaking settings you were looking for at the beginning of the review was "gnome-tweak-tool".

[ryan7136]

SHOW GETDEB/PLAYDEB

[MriBackup]

Is alan british?

[joshuahardy95]

@MriBackup Canadian

he does not sound British in anyway... (and there is not just 1 British accents)

[MriBackup]

@joshuahardy95 Weird.... I meant to put Canadian XD

[James29579]

in Fedora you have to click and hold the alt button to get the shutdown menu

[RuudschMaHinda]

wow.. that was fast.. just missed the news live but tuned in right for the mint 12 review.. just played a nice round of defcon against Alan..

[mshsz]

Heads up everyone, my HTC Desire Z from bell canada DOESNT have it. Seems bell isnt as bad as we thought in Canada :)

[Charles2337]

Why are your guys shows SOO long? Christ.

[bmw2go11]

@Charles2337 6million upload views and only 11k subscribers...

they really got to cut down on the time.. its ridiculous

they would get alot more attention

[shanejoel2]

@Charles2337 go away.

[Charles2337]

@shanejoel2

So constructive criticism isn't allowed?

[swordv]

w000t wasn't sure if it was my comment last week but glad your going to do the backstage! :)

LAS FTW!

[jupiterbroadcasting]

@swordv It was one of a few, your's might have pushed me over the edge to do it tho!

[BLADESKATER00]

What kind of microphone is Mr. Jude using?

[jupiterbroadcasting]

@BLADESKATER00 He uses a Rode Podcaster. Same Mic Heather uses for SciByte.

-Chris

[webmastertool]

second.

[nvanadium]

I used to be a big fan of mint. Not so much anymore. Mate looks old and just for a computer to work properly it doesn't need to look outdated. Not a fan of gnome 3 either. OpenSuse 12.1 may be the best distro so far.

[mamado226]

@nvanadium i agree with your mint opnion,but havving tried and still trying opensuse 12.1,i have to say it was't a breeze either,yast was horrible,endless updates,tons of error messsages even in the default repos?!installing codecs was areal pain,and installing vlc breaks all other codecs,it was mess.brfs looks promising but still slow,and the repos are outdated.fedora 16 was neat (the kde version)and yum was almost as good as apt.i have to give the edge to kubuntu 11.10 though

[tcpnet]

AWEZOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baga255]

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