a musical friend is challenging me to a "BAD-ASS-SONG" competition... So on the NEXT round I'm gonna spring this on his ass. 1st round I won w/ 21st century schzoid man. K.O. ! !
Well not to take anything away from the genius that is DAVID BOWIE and I will forever kiss the Musical Floor he walkes on but seriousely -- I never got into the whole Tin Machine thing -- the beard and suit I honestly can say does suit him very well... but the everything else looks rather wrong - that's the only way I can put it.
Hunt Sales on Drums there, seriously one cool dude and his drumming there is fuckin outstanding also very cool how he shifts stuff up over the basic shuffle feel. U can't learn the attitude in that feel. it's gotta be just in you.
Wow. But music critics told clearly Bowie at that time the "he can't be that great", and consequently destroyed Tin Machine. Guys wake up. This world may be created and pushed by genious but it's assessed by mediocres. And the assessment (not the creation) is what counts
tin machine was never destroyed. it never will be. they were just out of their generation.they were throwbacks to a way better time musically. and this thing about being assessed by Medicare's? Medicares ought step aside and let the real people with some sense do the assessing.
@JohnKalatrava Yes, but the mediocre assessment that counts to the mediocre many who are influenced by it is insignificant to those of us who know genius and don’t have to be told what it is.
the tin machine has landed! thank God for tin machine.this video and music is rock n roll in its purest form.the mighty zeppelin has a lil brother, his name is tin machine. he was introduced this night and the people were blown away. maybe someday he'll make his return?
The more I hear Tin Machine, the more interesting they reveal themselves to be. It may be Bowie's critically least significant work but it is still rather grand.
that is KICKIN IN YOUR TEETH. young punks nowwa days go shirtless and jump around and they dont EVEN COME CLOSE to this kinda MUSICAL power. and these "old"? farts are kickin your as in a SUIT&TIE,SMOKIN EVEN. even bowie sits down during the solo and smiles like: THIS IS GREAT!!KICK THAT ASS BOYS.
Reeves Gabrels is amazing, as inventive as he is proficient. Always wondered what a play-off between Gabrels and Robert Quine would have been like. Besides estatic, of course.
Doesn't anybody get that this band was supposed to be "over the top" (witness Reeves Gabrels' guitar stuff)?
The other consideration is that the drums were just miked too loud. Technology is a wonderful thing, but the sound engineer makes these decisions on-site, and Hunt Sales' contribution (as half of the rythmn section) was overemphasized by someone sitting behind the mixing board.
The drums on lust for life could also be considered too loud by many (i guess it must be Hunt Sales' his style), yet it was an inspiration for many bands to come. I wouldn't say Tin Machine or even this song in particular was over the top, it's just not as poppy compared to what Bowie did right before this.
While I can understand some don't really like this, I love it. :)
If you've ever heard of Soupy Sales those are his sons playing with Bowie. Tin Machine was a band started by Soupys sons. Hunt Sales is the drummer and well, that just happens to be his style.
the only problem with this band (as is amply demonstrated in this video) is that goddam drummer. He can never just settle down and play the song. He always has to be playing loud,
playing jarring fills, playing over the bar line, and generally drawing attention to himself and behaving like an ass. His chops aren't nearly good enough to pull off this kind of intrusive "hey look at me" drumming. This is the kind of thing fifteen year olds do the first time they play in front of an audience.
omg i couldnt agree more, that's the one thing that really bothered me when i first started listenin to Tin Machine. He derails the song, takes me out of it. IF he actually played good fills, then it wouldnt bother me as much. But he's not that great. Maybe he has ADD. Listen to "I can't read" on the on their Live "Oy Vey, Baby" album. He's soo annoying. I prefer later versions of their songs which bowie did on his own, cause the drummers not on them
did i actually read nobodys and wanna be's trying to sound like they know a damn thing about drumming or how it should sound or be miked?the great HUNT SALES is untouchable. you remind me of the guy who once told me that JOHN BONHAMS' great drumming had alot to do with the way they were miked? what a joke. a real joke.
you're obnoxious, and i do know a thing about drumming. the poster's comment i was replying to, was dead on. his drumming has always annoyed me, half ass fills and cheap builds. the great hunt sales? gtfo, his dad was the talent. him and his brother are the WANNA BE'S. wanting to be in the spotlight
you see, that's the thing...you are convinced that you know how drumming should sound or be played, therefor you miss all that heavenly glory. so you dont like hunts drumming, fine us tin machine fans dont need you anyway.
to add a bit more,the gig gave me the feeling of what it must have been like to see the stones or groups of that era when they were getting going.we were so close to the stage you could make eye contact with DB,in saying that he looked pretty gone,could even see his wonky eye........ive been a bowie fan since 1975 .
the single most important clip of my music loving journey so far.remember seeing this late on uk tv in may(ish) 1989.i fell for TM and Bowie there and then.DB's 90's solo career that followed, is in my opinion as important as his 70's work.I truly believe that.
maybe not,it was a small venue by his standards i queued all night with some friends to get the tickets,the h\o is the only place i can think it was (but not) so maybe it was the empire shepards bush.....memories gone.
dude is rockin for real... his face looks stern like a few movie actors ..clint eastwood robert redford..the beard his cool.. this guy has got the HELL swagger...
Reeves Gabrels !!! How to make a Reeves Gabrels...Take Gary Moore and feed Him a pound of acid,and a fresh baked pan of crack,make Him listen to Adrian Belew for 18 hours backwards ! The Dude is like no other !
Tin Machine weren't grunge by any means (David Bowie is wearing suit - big clue). They dis have some intersting riffs, maybe more so than Bowie's ususal back-up, and they were largely underappreciated. They were a really good band, but they were always measured yp to Bowie's solo efforts.
Nah. What I'm saying is that Tin Machine should never have been considered grunge. It's still Bowie's own despite the personna change that Bowie makes here with the Sales brothers. They also did a lot of work with older Iggy Pop stuff. This is definitely not grunge. Too much Bowie sound sound for that. But yourcomment was valid, because my comment invited that.
in case you guys never heard any interviews with tin machine. they pretty much tell you that they went in the studio and things just clicked. i think people trying to label something thats pure are simply reaching.love them or hate them they are what they are, they are Tin Machine.
I saw Tim Machine in NYC '88 by accident. I didn't know who T.M. was but thought the name was cool. So, $12.50 later and a couple of beers they opened up with this song..needless to say I was blown away. Thats not it though, later after the show around 4:30am I'm in Katz deli and guess who walks in? Bowie and Reeves hungry for some sandwiches and potato pancakes I told them I thought the show was great and they paid for my check, technically, I got my $12.50 back and a free show. SCORE!
You know what I love about this story is that it's so random but back in the day in NYC anything or better yet anyone would just be walking around. Those guys were so not pretentious or big headed in any way. By the way, I got a Reuben that knocked my socks off!
Thats a brilliant story. I saw them twice in the UK- Newcastle and Edinburgh. Small venues you could blow smoke rings across the stage ;-) great shows.
@lughnut i liked it so much, when they made the band and Bowie did not show his name, to get the band immediately good known!!! He is an artist! And TIN MACHINE was a very nice surprise!!!!
I LITERALLY laughed out loud when I read your anecdote. How cool is that?!
You should check out this TM overview I wrote a while back: kikojones5.blogspot.com/2008/04/heavens-in-here.html
Btw, thanks for posting this AlanHawk; I was actually watching the night it aired on TV. The 1st American Rock Awards, right? The Replacements were on, Lou Reed, Living Colour played "Johnny B. Goode" and Clapton got a lifetime achievement award from Keef. Pretty cool.
I love it! This is raw, all over the place jamming! Very forward thinking in the late '80s when everyone else was trying to be pop metal. I like the full suits too, added a certain perverse value to the whole thing considering the crazy tangents they went off on in concert!
God bless you. i totally agree with you . i love hearing other tin machine fans say how much the love tin machine. so many people didn't appreciate their greatness.
I just got the first tin machine album for my birthday from my brother and it is pretty good. a lot better then I expected from Bowie from the 80s after lets dance. he seems to be very loose with the tounge on the album. a lot of cursing.
Pure wonder! elegance and violence in the music of this greeeattt and underrated band!!
Bowie must have had a lot of fun with this experience.Unfortunately almost nobody noticed this very good band :-( I still have my 18 years old music tape of this album somewhere.. and Reeves Gabrels is one of the most fantasious and explosive guitarist ever!But as usual good things last little...pity.
Yup, it's a shame so many have missed these guys. It was actually my high school teacher who introduced me to Tin Machine, playing Crack City as a pop quiz during classes!
Tin Machine was a terribly underrated band. I cannot help to think that if everything had sounded the same but with another singer, they would have been hailed as the innovators they were. I just think that it was fashionable to hate Bowie at this point. Not so strange considering his solo output during most of the 80s.
Anyone who doesn't like this has no sense of ......... anything!
My absolute favorite band. As for dave17186, well don't ever listen to Iggy Pop's Lust for Life with the Sales Bros, produced by Bowie. Go back to Matchbox 20.
Tin machine had a few songs I really liked.Bowie seem to me in this period that he really wanted for people to look upon his abilty as a rocker more then his glitz from the past,hence the beard...IMHO..
I have to disagree with whoever said Reeves Gabrels rocks. I'm sorry but he's so bad here it's painful to watch. He has no structure to his solos it's just play as fast as I can and he doesn't even end his solos with any kind of resolution, don't even get me started on sense of rhythm, his time keeping it awful, it's like he's never played with a drummer before.
He's trying to create a feeling of chaos, which is why the drummer is "soloing" during his lead, and why the licks are off-time but he still nails the hit with the drummer afterwards. Gabrels is maybe playing up his role as an avantguarde player in a pop band, but it sounds wild and out of control like it's obviously supposed to, and I like it.
Completely agree with you. I'm an audio engineer I can hear the difference between "trying to create chaos" and playing like shit. And that is some sloppy out of the pocket guitar self indulgence. "He who plays much and says NOTHING".
man that shitsa dope...who eva said tin machine was shit they were the pre cum to the grunge orgasm that exploded all ova our faces then eventually into kurt cobains haha
I so totally agree w/ you and I further add that The Pixies deserve the accolade of being the actual premiere grunge bang before Nirvana should ever. Cobain fully attests that he was influenced by them.
I remember watching this; they debuted on some kind of awards show. Hard, kick-ass performance. A little too raw for their own good, I guess. Underrated band. I saw them live in L.A.; very good show.
Yeah, I saw that show too...people were sitting around a ballroon, eating dinner, didn't know what to make of TM. I didn't, either, but I really grew to like 'em. Richards, Clapton, and others played that show, too
Once again, Bowie proves that he is years and years ahead of the curve.
But I believe he must be a vampire. I saw his Isle of Wight performance last night recorded in 2005 (I think)...amazing that at almost 60 he can look that good
**feels strangely warm and fuzzy reading all the pro-Tin Machine comments** Warm and fuzzy about Tin Machine - "WTF?" right? But seriously, yay for everyone who can appreciate Tin Machine :)
I saw them live in Detroit autumn of 91 and they were SICK!! They opened with a cover of the Pixies' "Debaser"!! Being in the front of the pit and literally inches from Bowie was pretty damn spooky, and crazy cool!! The show wasn't even sold out!! WTF??
One of the greatest bands of all time. I have all three albums. great stuff i think if the Hair Metal scene didn't drown them out they would have been better received. They were a band ahead of their time just like Jimi Hendrix. the Punk/Blues fusion they still was slamming.
I can listen to these guys over and over. The music is spastic, in a good way. The vocal phrasing is totally removed from the rythms... In a great way.
nice to see all these positive remarks on tin machine. they should have been received better than this, besides bowie's no fool,being in the game at that time 30 years maybe more.(don't say anything about 'never let me down').
I remember being blown away by this performance as a kid, great album as well. Didn't get to see them live though as tickets were going for crazy prices and people had been camping out for days to queue at the venues!!!
I think this video was from Tin Machine's début at the American Music Awards, if memory serves. They played this and "Under the God". You could tell Bowie was loving every moment of it... that smug grin on his face, knowing what a mindfuck it was for an audience full of music industry people to see this band of older guys in Armani suits absolutely shredding.
Reeves Gabrels ROCKS. Proud to say i met him during a 4 night King Crimson show in the early '00's. He was a big fan of Adrian Belew(possibly Robert Fripp too).
Soupy Sales kids, right? I thought it was cool of Bowie to front a rock band and I thought the sound was highly original. This rocks, I love the jams.
Just my opinion,the BEST Bowie project.Love Hunt's drumming!
vishusvirg 1 month ago
a musical friend is challenging me to a "BAD-ASS-SONG" competition... So on the NEXT round I'm gonna spring this on his ass. 1st round I won w/ 21st century schzoid man. K.O. ! !
MRCJCOLLINS 2 months ago
CHIPSTICK AWARDS
anitasseo 3 months ago
Bought Hunky Dory when I was 11. Been a Bowie fan all my life. I don't care what anybody says, this is one of his greatest tracks...
meursault48 4 months ago
HE IS ALWAYS ONE STEP AHEAD!
croavdo 6 months ago
rock and roll played with abandon is always best-and these guys know/knew it.
pellmj1 9 months ago
Well not to take anything away from the genius that is DAVID BOWIE and I will forever kiss the Musical Floor he walkes on but seriousely -- I never got into the whole Tin Machine thing -- the beard and suit I honestly can say does suit him very well... but the everything else looks rather wrong - that's the only way I can put it.
XoXo
JimJarmuschCollector 10 months ago
Some advice David-grow your beard again, it seriously suits you!
organaphus 11 months ago
Bowie is the best! Does anybody know from what concert/show is this clip from? R&R Hall of Fame induction? Grammys?
6916944 11 months ago
@6916944 Coke Awards 1989
AlanHawk 11 months ago
@AlanHawk - Wonderful performance. Thank you!
6916944 11 months ago
@6916944 ELVIS AWARDS
vigotskyjung 4 months ago
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6916944 11 months ago
Haha Bowie can barely manage the apocaliptical soundwaves . . the prince got paled . . =)
CallmeToddy 1 year ago
David's rockin' the 'tash!!!! <3<3<3
Lozzeii 1 year ago
Yes Tin Machine were very underrated. Bowie doing raw rock rather well.
Timtubeyou 1 year ago
time again Mr David Bowie leet the punk rocker come out thats inside of you this was so good.
gammalpunkrock 1 year ago
reeves guitar tone could peel the skin off your face in the 1st row. hell, 1st 3 rows!!!
MRCJCOLLINS 1 year ago 2
Pure power. A very underrated band, with quite fine musicians. I enjoyed every second of this performance.
logica10 1 year ago
Hunt Sales on Drums there, seriously one cool dude and his drumming there is fuckin outstanding also very cool how he shifts stuff up over the basic shuffle feel. U can't learn the attitude in that feel. it's gotta be just in you.
Mgptheoriginal 1 year ago
Just f*****g masterful.
Oldshirt 1 year ago
This man's pores work overtime 24/7/52...He just exudes sexiness..sigh, sigh, sigh
botbagel 1 year ago
I AM A VIRGIN
SELFproclaimedVIRGIN 1 year ago
who is the singer in this band ?
totalvoman 1 year ago
genius is different things to different geniuses, genius (^; .
sheltech12 1 year ago
old goats, they'll get you yet (^;
sheltech12 1 year ago
Controlled chaos is a beautiful thing.
chhonda 1 year ago
Reeves Gabrels is OUTSTANDING!
akrocuba 1 year ago
Pulenta pulenta!!!
jamón del medio...
eloliinfernal 1 year ago
Still a kick in the teeth after 20 odd years. Awesome
Traitor73 1 year ago
Sales Bros - next to the Who, the greatest rythm section.
robmatlivingstone 1 year ago
Dam that cat is kool.
thegafferlives 1 year ago
Wow. But music critics told clearly Bowie at that time the "he can't be that great", and consequently destroyed Tin Machine. Guys wake up. This world may be created and pushed by genious but it's assessed by mediocres. And the assessment (not the creation) is what counts
JohnKalatrava 2 years ago
tin machine was never destroyed. it never will be. they were just out of their generation.they were throwbacks to a way better time musically. and this thing about being assessed by Medicare's? Medicares ought step aside and let the real people with some sense do the assessing.
idontneednodoctor01 2 years ago
@idontneednodoctor01 RIGHT ON!!!
botbagel 1 year ago
@JohnKalatrava Yes, but the mediocre assessment that counts to the mediocre many who are influenced by it is insignificant to those of us who know genius and don’t have to be told what it is.
MacAggy 1 year ago
the tin machine has landed! thank God for tin machine.this video and music is rock n roll in its purest form.the mighty zeppelin has a lil brother, his name is tin machine. he was introduced this night and the people were blown away. maybe someday he'll make his return?
idontneednodoctor01 2 years ago 2
i think this is very underestimated. very good
gammalpunkrock 2 years ago 2
Reeves Gabrels!!!
syr1811 2 years ago
Great.
Asymmatrix 2 years ago
had the first album, really liked it.
tiradeoftruth 2 years ago
Bowie's musical genius, and utter ability to transform himself are staggering.
RainPoetry 2 years ago 6
m0ribund, Kurt really said that ?
Citation needed, lol!
Droyd21 2 years ago
The more I hear Tin Machine, the more interesting they reveal themselves to be. It may be Bowie's critically least significant work but it is still rather grand.
aucklandmusic 2 years ago
between your marble thighs
DogsAreCoolRight 2 years ago
they were too dark, way too cool, too mafiosio/ganster looking to make it. and too f'n hot. lol
nikotwasik 2 years ago 3
nice guitars and drums, but...
i don´t know why this band could´n make it.
19gastonazo70 2 years ago
that is KICKIN IN YOUR TEETH. young punks nowwa days go shirtless and jump around and they dont EVEN COME CLOSE to this kinda MUSICAL power. and these "old"? farts are kickin your as in a SUIT&TIE,SMOKIN EVEN. even bowie sits down during the solo and smiles like: THIS IS GREAT!!KICK THAT ASS BOYS.
MRCJCOLLINS 2 years ago 23
Reeves Gabrels is amazing, as inventive as he is proficient. Always wondered what a play-off between Gabrels and Robert Quine would have been like. Besides estatic, of course.
Babaziba 2 years ago 2
1] I want to know what bass Tony is playing in the official video (not live) and
2] Ronson, Slick, Fripp, Belew, Frampton, SRV, Gabrels...damn can Bowie pick them, or what??
martianshoes 2 years ago 2
On the studio album ...I found this song to have a very pronounced "Doors feel". Anyone else get that?
martianshoes 2 years ago
DEFINITELY! I AGREE.
chibitiny 2 years ago
Reeves Gabrels was (is) a SICK guitar player. Love this tune.
otteaux 2 years ago
HE IS TOTALLY UNDER-RATED.
chibitiny 2 years ago 3
One of Bowie's great projects. I love those evil eyes he puts on.
rafalweb 2 years ago
Hunt Sales is the real deal
rcskins 2 years ago
Doesn't anybody get that this band was supposed to be "over the top" (witness Reeves Gabrels' guitar stuff)?
The other consideration is that the drums were just miked too loud. Technology is a wonderful thing, but the sound engineer makes these decisions on-site, and Hunt Sales' contribution (as half of the rythmn section) was overemphasized by someone sitting behind the mixing board.
EllJayAitch 2 years ago
The drums on lust for life could also be considered too loud by many (i guess it must be Hunt Sales' his style), yet it was an inspiration for many bands to come. I wouldn't say Tin Machine or even this song in particular was over the top, it's just not as poppy compared to what Bowie did right before this.
While I can understand some don't really like this, I love it. :)
Droyd21 2 years ago
Before everyone trashes him too much, Hunt Sales is also resposnible for the thunderous opening to Iggy Pop's "Lust For Life."
scottebull 2 years ago
true!
Droyd21 2 years ago
If you've ever heard of Soupy Sales those are his sons playing with Bowie. Tin Machine was a band started by Soupys sons. Hunt Sales is the drummer and well, that just happens to be his style.
jdukulele 2 years ago
the only problem with this band (as is amply demonstrated in this video) is that goddam drummer. He can never just settle down and play the song. He always has to be playing loud,
playing jarring fills, playing over the bar line, and generally drawing attention to himself and behaving like an ass. His chops aren't nearly good enough to pull off this kind of intrusive "hey look at me" drumming. This is the kind of thing fifteen year olds do the first time they play in front of an audience.
flamecolumn 2 years ago
omg i couldnt agree more, that's the one thing that really bothered me when i first started listenin to Tin Machine. He derails the song, takes me out of it. IF he actually played good fills, then it wouldnt bother me as much. But he's not that great. Maybe he has ADD. Listen to "I can't read" on the on their Live "Oy Vey, Baby" album. He's soo annoying. I prefer later versions of their songs which bowie did on his own, cause the drummers not on them
SidGrey 2 years ago
did i actually read nobodys and wanna be's trying to sound like they know a damn thing about drumming or how it should sound or be miked?the great HUNT SALES is untouchable. you remind me of the guy who once told me that JOHN BONHAMS' great drumming had alot to do with the way they were miked? what a joke. a real joke.
idontneednodoctor01 2 years ago
you're obnoxious, and i do know a thing about drumming. the poster's comment i was replying to, was dead on. his drumming has always annoyed me, half ass fills and cheap builds. the great hunt sales? gtfo, his dad was the talent. him and his brother are the WANNA BE'S. wanting to be in the spotlight
SidGrey 2 years ago
you see, that's the thing...you are convinced that you know how drumming should sound or be played, therefor you miss all that heavenly glory. so you dont like hunts drumming, fine us tin machine fans dont need you anyway.
idontneednodoctor01 2 years ago
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MacAggy 1 year ago
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@SidGrey Are you a drum expert or just someone who is confined to a narrow-minded idea of what drumming is 'supposed' to sound like?
MacAggy 1 year ago
i saw this tour at the newport centre south wales ..i have great pics i should make a video using them
xxpiggystardustxx 2 years ago
to add a bit more,the gig gave me the feeling of what it must have been like to see the stones or groups of that era when they were getting going.we were so close to the stage you could make eye contact with DB,in saying that he looked pretty gone,could even see his wonky eye........ive been a bowie fan since 1975 .
dfxman 2 years ago
the single most important clip of my music loving journey so far.remember seeing this late on uk tv in may(ish) 1989.i fell for TM and Bowie there and then.DB's 90's solo career that followed, is in my opinion as important as his 70's work.I truly believe that.
damkring 2 years ago 3
saw tin machine at the hammersmith odeon london......thought it was a great concert .....
dfxman 2 years ago
btw - TM never played Hammersmith Odeon.
damkring 2 years ago
maybe not,it was a small venue by his standards i queued all night with some friends to get the tickets,the h\o is the only place i can think it was (but not) so maybe it was the empire shepards bush.....memories gone.
dfxman 2 years ago
it was maybe the forum (then the 'town & country club) in 89 or brixton academy in 1991?
damkring 2 years ago
yes i think brixton acedemy sounds right
dfxman 2 years ago
dude is rockin for real... his face looks stern like a few movie actors ..clint eastwood robert redford..the beard his cool.. this guy has got the HELL swagger...
doesnthurt2try 2 years ago
Reeves is one of the best guitarists to play with Bowie - dude is really on a different level. Soupy Sales' sons are also in the band!
brilliantcivilian 2 years ago
Eh, he's got talent. But he's no Mick Ronson.
NecroWhore 2 years ago
fuckin awesome
zapponsalvia 3 years ago
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Worse stuff Bowies ever done = pretty much ...
eugenius101 3 years ago
Yeah, that cheesey 80's commercial crap was MUCH better :-)
grantco1313 2 years ago
geez you think bowie would be at the end of his road but his voice never dies
satisfactorman 3 years ago
Awesome band featuring David!!!
stuckondamoment 3 years ago
David looks great w/that beard
DBCrowns 3 years ago 2
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Simple music for simple minded people.
LOL. LONG LIVE IGNORANT SHEEP...
ruleoforder 3 years ago
Reeves Gabrels !!! How to make a Reeves Gabrels...Take Gary Moore and feed Him a pound of acid,and a fresh baked pan of crack,make Him listen to Adrian Belew for 18 hours backwards ! The Dude is like no other !
bubbazee 3 years ago
who gives a shit what you call the genre. Great band.
RTRoberto 3 years ago
Tin Machine weren't grunge by any means (David Bowie is wearing suit - big clue). They dis have some intersting riffs, maybe more so than Bowie's ususal back-up, and they were largely underappreciated. They were a really good band, but they were always measured yp to Bowie's solo efforts.
Onlydreamin1959 3 years ago
Tin Machine not grunge because Bowie wearing suit?
Nirvana? :D
Droyd21 3 years ago 2
Nah. What I'm saying is that Tin Machine should never have been considered grunge. It's still Bowie's own despite the personna change that Bowie makes here with the Sales brothers. They also did a lot of work with older Iggy Pop stuff. This is definitely not grunge. Too much Bowie sound sound for that. But yourcomment was valid, because my comment invited that.
Onlydreamin1959 3 years ago
It's not that I agree about Tin Machine being a "grunge band" but I do hear a pretty strong influence of the genre in this song.
Droyd21 3 years ago
..play dirty
menzobonzo 3 years ago
in case you guys never heard any interviews with tin machine. they pretty much tell you that they went in the studio and things just clicked. i think people trying to label something thats pure are simply reaching.love them or hate them they are what they are, they are Tin Machine.
idontneednodoctor01 2 years ago
tin machine rock .they was grunge before grunge.
boogieblunt 3 years ago
I love the way Bowie goes and sits on Hunt's drum riser and sort of just take it all in...
totally enraptured!!
What a killer band!!
ROCK'N'ROLL!!!
TrickyTolles64 3 years ago
Come on,don't be soo heavy...Reeves gets things done!
evets1968 3 years ago
I saw Tim Machine in NYC '88 by accident. I didn't know who T.M. was but thought the name was cool. So, $12.50 later and a couple of beers they opened up with this song..needless to say I was blown away. Thats not it though, later after the show around 4:30am I'm in Katz deli and guess who walks in? Bowie and Reeves hungry for some sandwiches and potato pancakes I told them I thought the show was great and they paid for my check, technically, I got my $12.50 back and a free show. SCORE!
lughnut 3 years ago 26
Nice
jonovips13 3 years ago
Great story! Wish something like that could have happened to me. I love Bowie and all his incarnations.
Onlydreamin1959 3 years ago
You know what I love about this story is that it's so random but back in the day in NYC anything or better yet anyone would just be walking around. Those guys were so not pretentious or big headed in any way. By the way, I got a Reuben that knocked my socks off!
Mmmmmmm...Katz deli.
lughnut 3 years ago
Thats a brilliant story. I saw them twice in the UK- Newcastle and Edinburgh. Small venues you could blow smoke rings across the stage ;-) great shows.
tinmachinelife 3 years ago
@lughnut If this story is in fact not bullshit....you are a very lucky man. Did you swap any small talk with the demi-gods?
Fooblestheclown 1 year ago
@lughnut i liked it so much, when they made the band and Bowie did not show his name, to get the band immediately good known!!! He is an artist! And TIN MACHINE was a very nice surprise!!!!
zana16sioyx 1 year ago 2
@lughnut
I LITERALLY laughed out loud when I read your anecdote. How cool is that?!
You should check out this TM overview I wrote a while back: kikojones5.blogspot.com/2008/04/heavens-in-here.html
Btw, thanks for posting this AlanHawk; I was actually watching the night it aired on TV. The 1st American Rock Awards, right? The Replacements were on, Lou Reed, Living Colour played "Johnny B. Goode" and Clapton got a lifetime achievement award from Keef. Pretty cool.
KikoSavesTheDay 1 year ago
@KikoSavesTheDay Ahhh..The Replacements. When music mattered and it wasn't a score on a PS3.
lughnut 1 year ago
@lughnut Best Story Ever!
FingersPlainview 1 year ago
@lughnut Must have been 1989, Bowie didn't release or do anything in 1988
AlanHawk 11 months ago
Awesome. This guys rocked. And looked good too...
masville 3 years ago 2
Man this guy is AC-DC...butch or fem!
Snotra 3 years ago
Critics ripped this apart.
I was execpting worse. :/
screw the critics.
this stuff is good.
manicalhippieboy 3 years ago 5
The Sales brothers blow me away with their playing every time!
andleemart 3 years ago
I love it! This is raw, all over the place jamming! Very forward thinking in the late '80s when everyone else was trying to be pop metal. I like the full suits too, added a certain perverse value to the whole thing considering the crazy tangents they went off on in concert!
400SA 3 years ago 3
God bless you. i totally agree with you . i love hearing other tin machine fans say how much the love tin machine. so many people didn't appreciate their greatness.
idontneednodoctor01 2 years ago
@idontneednodoctor01 i saw the two tin machine tours ,,they were great
xxpiggystardustxx 1 year ago
Reeves rocks harder in his business suit than a lot of ink stained pincushions today ever could.
bockybalboa 3 years ago
i saw the both tin machine tours...first one at newport centre second at brixtomn accademmy
xxpiggystardustxx 3 years ago
Loud like I like it.Man I was doing coke back in those days and I totally tripped out on this song....
TVC17 3 years ago
This is rock'n' roll
Maltesen 3 years ago
Very underappreciated project, way too ahead of its time...I remember a lot of people complaining *it's too NOISY!* Reeves TOTALLY shreds!
alienboy889 3 years ago 2
Total class!!!!
Dragon888888888 3 years ago
Pur quality of the highest order. Master class in musicianship.
Dragon888888888 3 years ago
David looks sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DBowie1983 3 years ago 2
dont you think ppl that same day Tin Machine will be reborn?
gammalpunkrock 3 years ago
I just got the first tin machine album for my birthday from my brother and it is pretty good. a lot better then I expected from Bowie from the 80s after lets dance. he seems to be very loose with the tounge on the album. a lot of cursing.
Bowiefanperson 3 years ago
My favorite song of theirs is "Amazing". Ironic, isn't it.
Undrtruck 3 years ago
inspirierende phase von Bowie
manicwesttown 3 years ago
Pure wonder! elegance and violence in the music of this greeeattt and underrated band!!
Bowie must have had a lot of fun with this experience.Unfortunately almost nobody noticed this very good band :-( I still have my 18 years old music tape of this album somewhere.. and Reeves Gabrels is one of the most fantasious and explosive guitarist ever!But as usual good things last little...pity.
francello75 4 years ago
I agree! Badly underrated band. Tin Machine was actually the lat vinyl album I bought, as the CD conquered the shelves.
SanctJohn 3 years ago
How ironic, this was the first CD I bought! Most of my friends didn't like Tin Machine, they just didn't get the concept.
burnedbycaustic 3 years ago
Yup, it's a shame so many have missed these guys. It was actually my high school teacher who introduced me to Tin Machine, playing Crack City as a pop quiz during classes!
SanctJohn 3 years ago
At about 2:40 when he says "ooh!" I creamed my pants.
Galvadon 4 years ago
Marry me David!
boktor59 4 years ago
Reeves Gabrels is maybe my favourite Bowie guitar player. I'm waiting for live albums and dvds from Tin Machine, Outside and Earthling eras.
lesassassins 4 years ago
Tin Machine was a terribly underrated band. I cannot help to think that if everything had sounded the same but with another singer, they would have been hailed as the innovators they were. I just think that it was fashionable to hate Bowie at this point. Not so strange considering his solo output during most of the 80s.
ivankaramasov 4 years ago 3
Hey! I remember this.
This is from The 1st International Rock Awards. May 31, 1989.
I was on the edge of my seat watching this.
Takes me back.
I believe he kicked off the Sound+Vision Tour shortly after this.
Oh what fun I had back then.
I still listen to both Tin Machine I & II, not to mension the live Oy Vey! Baby recording.
Thanks so much for posting this.
razbowie 4 years ago
Anyone who doesn't like this has no sense of ......... anything!
My absolute favorite band. As for dave17186, well don't ever listen to Iggy Pop's Lust for Life with the Sales Bros, produced by Bowie. Go back to Matchbox 20.
fudgemanagement 4 years ago
Fast nothing soloing!~
Snotra 4 years ago
shut up and dance.
k2aileron 4 years ago
Great music. Especially the finishing guitars&drums. Awesome.
tossJ 4 years ago
Tin machine had a few songs I really liked.Bowie seem to me in this period that he really wanted for people to look upon his abilty as a rocker more then his glitz from the past,hence the beard...IMHO..
TVC17 4 years ago
I have to disagree with whoever said Reeves Gabrels rocks. I'm sorry but he's so bad here it's painful to watch. He has no structure to his solos it's just play as fast as I can and he doesn't even end his solos with any kind of resolution, don't even get me started on sense of rhythm, his time keeping it awful, it's like he's never played with a drummer before.
dave17186 4 years ago
He's trying to create a feeling of chaos, which is why the drummer is "soloing" during his lead, and why the licks are off-time but he still nails the hit with the drummer afterwards. Gabrels is maybe playing up his role as an avantguarde player in a pop band, but it sounds wild and out of control like it's obviously supposed to, and I like it.
manzruin 4 years ago 2
Completely agree with you. I'm an audio engineer I can hear the difference between "trying to create chaos" and playing like shit. And that is some sloppy out of the pocket guitar self indulgence. "He who plays much and says NOTHING".
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paul12349 4 years ago
man that shitsa dope...who eva said tin machine was shit they were the pre cum to the grunge orgasm that exploded all ova our faces then eventually into kurt cobains haha
boogieblunt 4 years ago
I so totally agree w/ you and I further add that The Pixies deserve the accolade of being the actual premiere grunge bang before Nirvana should ever. Cobain fully attests that he was influenced by them.
Firebrand1967 4 years ago
Old rolling-skating rink in DC: the Centandal(?) 94?. True fan since that show. Wish I bought the T.
k2aileron 4 years ago
I remember watching this; they debuted on some kind of awards show. Hard, kick-ass performance. A little too raw for their own good, I guess. Underrated band. I saw them live in L.A.; very good show.
viajerografico 4 years ago
Yeah, I saw that show too...people were sitting around a ballroon, eating dinner, didn't know what to make of TM. I didn't, either, but I really grew to like 'em. Richards, Clapton, and others played that show, too
bionicbigfoot 4 years ago
I can only say one thing: WOW!
MarnonBolaw 4 years ago
BOWIE
goldenearringsgeorge 4 years ago
The moment I heard Tin Machine I was with it. Rolling Stone, armchair critics, indie knowitalls who bashed this band, eat a duck.
jfayiii 4 years ago
Once again, Bowie proves that he is years and years ahead of the curve.
But I believe he must be a vampire. I saw his Isle of Wight performance last night recorded in 2005 (I think)...amazing that at almost 60 he can look that good
michealjmayhem 4 years ago
what world people recommend by tin machine as im a huge david bowie fan :)
OliverandJohn 4 years ago
Tin Machine turned me on to Bowie. EASILY the best pop music artist of all time.
jbrandonvalentine 4 years ago 2
Reeves looks like a banker. His playing just kills me the man if awesome
atlanticmanor 4 years ago
**feels strangely warm and fuzzy reading all the pro-Tin Machine comments** Warm and fuzzy about Tin Machine - "WTF?" right? But seriously, yay for everyone who can appreciate Tin Machine :)
mauerblumchen 4 years ago
I saw them live in Detroit autumn of 91 and they were SICK!! They opened with a cover of the Pixies' "Debaser"!! Being in the front of the pit and literally inches from Bowie was pretty damn spooky, and crazy cool!! The show wasn't even sold out!! WTF??
highscorehustler 4 years ago
tin machine was a gift. only those who know of them have recieved this gift. it was bowie poking his head in the underground for a while.
dylanfan1969 4 years ago
One of the greatest bands of all time. I have all three albums. great stuff i think if the Hair Metal scene didn't drown them out they would have been better received. They were a band ahead of their time just like Jimi Hendrix. the Punk/Blues fusion they still was slamming.
kingkull0423 4 years ago
Fabulous. A very brave move for Bowie and much more powerful than the reputation will have you believe.
AntheanCeilliers 5 years ago 2
I can listen to these guys over and over. The music is spastic, in a good way. The vocal phrasing is totally removed from the rythms... In a great way.
martinofm 5 years ago
nice to see all these positive remarks on tin machine. they should have been received better than this, besides bowie's no fool,being in the game at that time 30 years maybe more.(don't say anything about 'never let me down').
returnsanecho 5 years ago
I remember being blown away by this performance as a kid, great album as well. Didn't get to see them live though as tickets were going for crazy prices and people had been camping out for days to queue at the venues!!!
fleshthomas 5 years ago
I think this video was from Tin Machine's début at the American Music Awards, if memory serves. They played this and "Under the God". You could tell Bowie was loving every moment of it... that smug grin on his face, knowing what a mindfuck it was for an audience full of music industry people to see this band of older guys in Armani suits absolutely shredding.
nurnur 5 years ago
You are right, I remember it was the AMAs and going to school the next day and trippin on everyone about it.
redfistaor 4 years ago
Reeves Gabrels ROCKS. Proud to say i met him during a 4 night King Crimson show in the early '00's. He was a big fan of Adrian Belew(possibly Robert Fripp too).
huskered62 5 years ago
AlanHawk - thank you
Tin Machines' first live performance...
It's showin' what they can do, it's jam. They are havin' fun - bless there cotton socks! Who could begrudge 'em that? ehh?
Zziggi 5 years ago
They were a cool rock n roll band methinks, but somehow it just doesn't work for me...
ziggboy11 5 years ago
Soupy Sales kids, right? I thought it was cool of Bowie to front a rock band and I thought the sound was highly original. This rocks, I love the jams.
emilesland 5 years ago