Mashallah Now Salafi guys want unity with ahle sunnat,before 1year they were making fun of imam e azam abuhanifa,but they did not feel emotional,they were enjoying it.now when ahle sunnat scholars came to answer batil,now they want unity,mashallah. hanafi fiqh may allah make u happy in this life and here after.
Since when did Albani become the final say on what is authentic and what is not? Majority of the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah wal jama'ah don't even consider him to be a scholar!
people care more about what scholars nowadays say than those who were mountains compared to all those with knowledge in the past 200 years, this ummah is getting a lot of dodgey black spots
Shaikh albani lead shaikh bin Baz in prayer since they both were hafidh ul quran but sheikh albani was more knowledgable on the Study of the Hadith of rasullah sallallahu alayhi wasalam, so sheikh albani was told to lead the salah, sheikh uthaimeen was also there but sheikh bin baz made sheikh albani lead salah, this was the status of sheikh albani in the eyes of the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia sheikh bin baz, shaikh bin baz had obviously good manners and respect towers albani may Allah have me
@le4manxxx shut your comments because you r not representing the salafis of Saudi and neither are you representing the salafis of the world. Sheikh al albani is Albanian but he was even the imam of sheikh bin Baz
You say that to know someone properly, you must stay with them close or be with them a lot. Will I have been with Hanafi brothers for years, the way they pray their Salat is irritating. How they move away from you when you come close to them. And once someone was asked where Allah was, it was replied Allah is everywhere Wa Iyaadu Billah. Don't disrespect Sheikh Albani, you're not even near the level of the Scholars of Saudi at his time, they didn't even refute him like this. May Allah Guide u.
Another slander. S. Albani knew very well the grave was not in the mosque; rather it was in the house of `A'ishah, over which the mosque was later on extended.
How dare limbada call al albani a stupid idiot! How dare the teacher of limbada call albani a kabees which is the Urdu for devil! Where are the manners of these people! And when he called albani a stupid idiot people in the background were laughing! Limbada clearly calls albani a stupid idiot in another of his lecture not this one! How dare he! Has he no manners for a high caliber muhaddith and scholar who has served the sunnah, limbada will have to answer to Allah
At 14:56 Limbada gee says that the people of Madina wrote to King Faisal complaining about Al,Albani. King Faisal was killed in 1975, if Limbada cant get such basic facts right how can someone trust him with their deen?
i love mufti taqi usmani and surely he wouldnt say such a thing. first i got angry to see this and then saddened. neo salafis are attacking everyone and u have chosen the same path. ALLAH is watching to things to unite, have patience and u will win together, and plz its a request brother stop this remove this video. and wherever the jamah is will unite INSHA ALLAH
Assalumu alikum. this is the first time i'm posting any comments in youtube due to severity of this lecture. i follow saudi sheiks but yet i love many deobandis by heart, and always felt to solve our differences. i have a lot of deoband friends, and one student of jamia faroooqia karachi even praised albani saying him a salaf. i'm against neo salafis. but even though there are good lectures in your channel which i liked but this is really disappointed and u r creating neo deobandiya
Search for this video on youtube for the response to this video: "Response Who was Nasiruddin Albani Salafi? 1 Hanafi fiqh Channel" from brother Youtubecom/LifewithAllah
Sheikh Al Albani lived and worked in Syria. He dint repair watches in some shop in medina and he dint get his knowledge from books in medina. Why hasnt the speaker got this info correct? If i was to talk about a person i would seek knowledge about him before giving a talk
All salafis try to say he got general ijazahs which he did from a scholar hu 1nce visited him in Syria but general one is not part of your isnad it's purley for baraka. I've heard the replies thier are not satisfactory. These people attack the great imams like Abu hanifah and ghazalli, imam subki, IBn hajar, IBn jawzi , but cum Albani "oh Noo don't debate his credibility in hadith he is a master" what duoble standards. Likes of Abu musab blind follow him and u can tell by the way they speak an
This man abdur raheem Abu nauman is extremely biased, he has an agenda, his agenda is muqalideen, deobandis, tablighi, soofi, matireedi, a shari, al albani does have a chain, watch the video by shaikh sahib Hassan and you will know
No, there is an article by Sheikh Nuh Keller. He goes into depth determining the truth, quoting the family friends of Albani's Hanafi father and hearing their stories.
AL BANI WAS A BIGGER MUHADITH THAN ME OR YOU..BUT........HE MADE ERRORS WHICH HAD BIG CONSEQUENCES. GOING AGAINST IJMA (CONSENSUS) IS NOT A WISE THING TO DO! HE SHOULD NOT BE CRITICISED BY ME OR U BUT PPL SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF THE ERRORS TO SAFEGUARD DEEN
What happen to not going overboard with a scholar? Hypocrite. PseudoSalafis have set double standards. Albani does not compare to even new Alims out of a Darul Uloom.
Find me non psuedoSalafi that says that. All the Imams of the past and true scholars now and recent times were praised by people of all madhabs, albani was only praised by those who were also pseudosalafi.
Great scholars of our time have praised him extensively. The late Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Ibraheem Aal Sheikh said, And he is the upholder of the Sunnah, a supporter of the truth and in opposition to the people of falsehood. The late former Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Baz said, I have not seen anyone under the surface of the sky with more knowledge of Hadith in our current times than the likes of the great scholar, Muhammad Nasir-ud-Deen Al-Albani.
@SunnahWay Muhammad Al-Albani, may Allah have mercy upon him, is considered a flagbearer and Imam in the sciences of hadith to the pseudo-salafis of our era. What the majority of these psuedo-salafis do not know is that Al-Albaani contradicted himself numerous times throughout his published works on hadith, lending to the Sunni claim that he is not a scholar of hadith and is in fact not authorized, or even qualified, to grade chains.
@SunnahWay no offence but both of your comments are wrong. firstly he never showed respect for hanafi scholars or the school of fiqh. at one point he even claims the muqalid is the worst kafir on the planet, in another place he says the layman should do taqleed! i hope he passed away on the latter opinion and may Allah have mercy on him. you are right that some government scholars praised his KNOWLEDGE but they would agree his work was flawed. they too made dodgy fatwas about US forces in hijaaz
May ALLAH guide US, we are Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jammah........we are acting as if one of us are christians and the other group is Muslims, fear Allah with your comments....what you type as commments is being written by the Angle as Allah has informed us in the Qur'an
Fear Allah, Do not be divided....I dont agree with some of the Sheikh comments the scholars are our role models, they do not disrespect each other, we should do the same
secondly he was not "kicked out" of madinah university,and if anybody has any doubts they can phone madinah university etc and to this day albani's books are taught in madinah university and all over saudi, so if they extradited him surely they would have banned his books. and ive never seen a dhaeef al tirmidhi, maybe someone can enlighten me.....
so we should always have accurate information because Allah (swt) will question us in regards to what we spread
I think it is wrong for this video to be published, if somebody was to upload a video about critisizing Imam abu Hanifa then all us "hanafi" would be offended, so we should try to respect other imams of other muslims. we cant expect nobody to critisize Imam abu Hanifa while we ourselves critisize other peoples Imams.
@MuhammedP23 how can you compare infact how dare you compare sheikh albani sahib with imam abu hanifa ra. Imam abu hanifa ra was from one of the best eras and even saw some sahabas and is respected by the greatest scholars of history and is and was also followed by many of them subhanallah.where as sheikh albani sb allah knows best. please dont compare them as imam abu hanifa is one of the greatest scholars ever in history no question.
@1946mohammed im not comparing them, im a hanfi myself through and through. im just saying that as we want our imam to be respected we should also respect others. and PLUS i did not compare the imams in anyway, i didnt compare how much knowledge the imams had, i didnt compare how versed in hadith they were, i didnt compare how much quran they both knew, i didnt compare who is better in fatawa, i nsay which imam is better, all i said was we shud respect other peoples imams.
And Masha-Allah, Allah The Most High has given you the knowledge that Albani can not compare to the someone such as Imam Abu Hanifa (RA).
Alhamdulillah, Allah The Most High has given me two legs and I can run at however many km/h. But you don't see me comparing myself with the speed of light.
So why compare a man with not even a sanad to our father in fiqh?
There's a massive difference between criticising and warning people against evil. This one is the latter, and should thus be encouraged in an appropriate manner. Maulana has spoken softly with evidence. What more could you want?
Following the "respect other people's Imam" analogy, should I respect Mirza Ghulam?
No. Why? Because he spread falsehood - and corrupted hearts and minds of people.
I believe this fitna of being ghair Muqalid greater as they are attacking Islam from within. They call themselves Salafi when ironically they are the opposite. They have no fixed structure, belief or a group, so when they say they are following one way, they know very well that's not the case.
@oigeezer may Allah reward your hardwork..u know a true God fearing person only needs one hadith for him to comply with fear but a person who has no fear of Allah at all nomatter how many sources we produce they will still irritate us to the core with their ignorance and allegations..Allah only guides whom He wills and ilm can only be acquired thru humbleness, thats y i typed that message to that user account person..
@oigeezer that message was for that user name of slaveofallah8jannah..because that person was provoking me into a quarrel..i don't want to remind or warn such people who dont fear Allah just like in the Quran we can only warn those who fears Allah and have understanding..truth always stands alone and lies need alota support..like that i dont wish to argue or debate with such people who are mere ignorant..the best i can do is pray for them hidayat..i was not implying any negative on u..
Allah loves most the person who stops arguing though he has the means to do so..just for the sake of Allah..and Allah devoids blessings on two Muslims who are quarreling
I know this, Alhamdulillah. But how can I stop when I've seen first-hand what happens when people allow fitna to spread? If I'm honest, I no longer bother with these people to attempt to change them. I bother with them to make sure they don't change others. It's so easy throwing one cheap statement taken completely out of context to completely undermine a view, scholar, or even an entire madhab? How can I stay silent?
@slaveofallah8jannah when u speak can almost taste the bitterness n hatred that u have in u..what has become upon u?? why this much vengence? u believe in e same kalimah which i believe thats more than enuf for Muslim to be united,and not nit pick,probe and always creating disunity within Muslims..no wonder the kafirs r always laughing at us, if we Muslims are so against each other then where will be brotherhood? if so and so has a different opinion, let it be, learn to always unite wif e kalima
@slaveofallah8jannah Imam Shafiee rahmatualaihi has said "it has become a norm pointing fingers at others but the greatest problem lies within me and honestly if i can fix the mistakes in me then there is no any problems left in the world!"
@slaveofallah8jannah If u are right may Allah reward u and if i am right may Allah reward me..a true good Muslim always fears Allah in his public and private life and never nit pick or probe on other people's mistake..you gotta eat the pudding to know its taste like that i don't wish to waste my prcious time on people who can see but blind and who can hear but deaf..like what imam Shafiee rahmatualaihi has said..(cont)
Ahaa..Now i know you guys are Blind Followers...?? Refute who ever you want...but the Haqq - The Truth is out there....you need to see the facts and not stories....
The biography of Sheikh Albani is available to purchase so i suggest those interested should read it. Much of the information in the book is from the students of Shiekh Albani and the book was varified by a student of his, Ash Sheikh Al-Ameen Al- Haleel. As Shiekh Abdurrahim said we should look at the people who sat with a person and what they have to say about them. There are numerous accounts of what other scholars have said about him there.
I once flicked through a biography of Albani in a bookshop. I couldn't stop laughing when it was written in the same way as a phenomenal Imam of the past - just with less phenomenal characteristics...
"No blemishes on his face"
"No-one could keep up with him on the stairs"
Amazing?
And those other scholars are all pseudoSalafis right?
A great scholar is praised by all four madhabs, not just the people of the madhab.
And how dare you speak about the mujaddid of this era??? You and and your likes will never harm the Noble Muhaddith Shaikh Nasir Uddin Al Albani Rahimahullah. Deobandi grave worshippers.
What books do you have? Not two pseudoSalafis in the world are the same and they believe they are on the only right path! You criticise our scholars when you don't even have any!
Every pseudoSalafi says that how can you have wudhu and not have wudhu at the same time according to different madhabs? Abu Bakr (RA) and Aisha (RA) did not hold the same opinion as Umar (RA) and Uthmaan (RA) and Ali (RA) over the starting of Maghrib.
Do you even know what a Deobandi is? Again, if you do, you are a liar. If you don't, you are ignorant. Feikh Albani was a high ranking person who expanded on the fitna of Najd, proved by several hadith (sahih for your peace of mind, I wouldn't mind because I don't reject hadith). Ibn Abdul Wahab started that fitna. And you turn a blind eye?
@oigeezer Deobandis are Liars "Hazrat Ibn Jalaa relates, "While in Medina I once suffered tremendous hunger. It became so unbearable that I presented myself at the grave of Rasoolullah and said, "O Rasoolullah, I suffer great hunger. I am now your guest." Thereafter, sleep overtook me and in a vision, I saw Rasoolullah give me a piece of bread. I ate half of it, and when I woke up, I found myself with the other half of that piece of bread still in my hands." Fear Allah !!!!!!!
I have not heard this story, but I will not say it's falsehood.
Haven't you heard the story behind Qasida Burda?
What about Imam Tahawi and his paring his finger nails on a wednesday, and seeing a dream of the Prophet (SAW) and him leprosy being cured and him being cautioned not to do so again?
They had love for our so called "beloved" Prophet (SAW).
@oigeezer Only grave worshiper might be angered by muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab. I live in Bangladesh & fully aware about the deviant deobandis. They are semi sufis, semi ashariyyah. They call themselves Hanafi but contradict the belief & practice Abu Hanifa. The leader of the Deobandis is Imdadullah Muhajir Makki, who was an extreme sufi fighting for the propagation of Wahdatul Wujut & other shirki aqeedah. They also took Shia Batinee belief. One has to learn "secret knowledge" from their Peer.
@oigeezer I request sincerely to all Muslim brother & sister, type "The creed of deobandi elders" & just Google it. You will find the proof of devinat aqeedah of the deobandi scholars. Most the common people don't know about the misguidance of the deobandis & defend them thinking which is something good to do.
May Allah guide me and the muslim ummah to the siratul mustqeem not to the Sunnatul Awwalin (The path of the deviant peer bujurgo).
You are either an ignorant or a liar. Or you are referring to deobandis as brelvis.
Al-Muhannad ala al-Mufannad (The Sword on the Disproved) also known as al-Tasdiqat li-Daf’ al-Talbisat (Endorsements Repelling Deceits) or Aqa’id Ulama Ahl al-Sunna Deoband (The Beliefs of the Sunni Scholars of Deoband).
These books were the answer to the Arab scholars questions on Deoband.
@oigeezer Berelovis & Deobandi declare one another as Kaafir, but in reality they share many deviant aqeedah. This is clearly documented in the book "The creed of deobandi elders".
It is clearly mentioned in Al-Muhannad ala al-Mufannad the link between ashari &Deobandi. It clearly states, Deobandi does not follow Imam Abu Hanifa in matters of Aqeedah, they follow Ash'ari Maturidi ideology.
@oigeezer They contradict The book of Allah, The Sunnah of the Rasululllah (SAW), All the sahabis even 4 Imams of the 4 madhabs strongly criticized their deviance. Go back to history book, read what had 4 Imams said about Ilmul Qalam, which is indoctrinated by Ash'ari Maturidi from Greek philosophy.
I mention 1 point. They classify some hadith as Hadith Ahad, & say these hadith can not be believed though all the muhaddiseen agreed this hadith sahhih. They reject many hadith without valid reason
@oigeezer Some of the deviant Deobandi Aqeedah. I can challenge anybody who can refute. You dont have to look too distance to find these, open Tabligi Nisaab, u will find many of them -
1. Wahdatul Wujud - (Pantheism) crystal clear shirk
2. Tadabbur-e-shaykh (Meditating on one's peer during Ibadah) - This is also shirk
3. Rasulullah SAW visits people, not in dream but in reality in this world
4. Peer, Bujurgo do not die. After death, they talk with their mureed, advice them or help them
6. Sufism - They adopted extreme sufi ideas by the notorious Ibn Arabi, Rumee etc.
7. Batinee knowledge - They took shia batinee ideology, Peer have secret knowledge from Allah (wahi?), one should give bayah to peer to attain this hidden knowledge
8. Following the mistakes done by Imam is WAJIB, one can not follow the correct opinion
9. They reject the names & attributes of Allah, twist the verses of the Quran
@oigeezer If you dislike Saudi scholars, then read Hujjatillah Baligah by Shah Wali Ullah Dehlovi, It says, The Usul of Hanafee does not go back to Imam Abu Hanifa, rather it goes back to "Mu'tazilah". Every body knows about the wicked methodology of Mu'tazillah. You will also find many refutations of the Indian local Islam (now a days practiced by Deobadi & Berelovi).
And I should listen to the deobandi scholars? He is talking about 'maulana zakariyya' the author of fadhail e Amal and a hardcore Sufi. Fadhail e Amal has stories of asking to the grave of rasulallah for help etc. and many more. And I should listen to this man whose scholars are calling upon grave of prophet for help instead of Allah? Subhanallah
Examples? Don't lie. They don't call upon the grave of Rasulullah (SAW) instead of Allah (SWT). Tell everyone the truth. If you know it, you are a liar. If you don't, you are an ignorant.
He was one of the greatest Muhaddith of the last century. His Khalifa include Shaykh Yunus Hafidahullah who has memorised 10,000 hadith and regarded by may as the person with the most knowledge of hadith today.
Stay well clear of those who have the audacity and the arrogance to criticise madhabs and try to get you away from them.
Too many pseudoSalafis tell me your scholars made errors. When I don't have much time, I just say "You don't even have scholars. At best, your scholars were refuted and warned against by those who taught them. They are not Shaykhs. They are Faykhs."
Regarding Albani, well, now you know the truth. It's now your choice whether to accept and act upon this truth, or keep with the ignorant belief Albani was a scholar in the field of hadith, or any field.
I didn’t know that Albani did not have a teacher, more then that I thought he studied hadith and fiqh. He is just a layman who selected hadith and just formed a new madhab. I cant belive the are people who out their would try comparing him to Abu Hanifa (ra)
@Faruk1189 You fanatic lair. Albani studied under his father who was a Hanafi scholar. He was a layman!!! Yes he was a layman like Muhaddis Shah Wali Ullah Dehlovi (RA). It is quite interesting to me these two scholars of Hadith (Shah Wali Ullah & Albani), both of them studied under their father who were Hanafi scholars & both of them criticize the mistakes of their father’s Madhab.
Albani studied under his father and then completely went in the direct opposite direction, aka the direction of falsehood. If his father was here today, he would be the first defending others from the fitna of Albani. And Shah Waliullah did not criticise any madhab in the way you are implying (to my knowledge).
And NEVER compare Albani to Shah Waliullah Dehlawi. Na'uzubillah.
One oppressed the hadith and causes fitna - the other defended hadith.
@oigeezer I knew previously if I quote Shah Wali Ullah you can not deny. I suggest you to read the history thoroughly, who defended Hadith & who defended false ideology.
Read the books & fatwa by Shah Wali Ullah & Albani, u will find very similar because both of them defended Hadith not any madhab, Imam or madrasa. Regarding the mistakes of Albani & all other scholars, Ahle sunnah believe after Rasulullah SAW nobody is Masoom or infallible.
@oigeezer We accept the beneficial knowledge from the scholars, and leave the mistakes done by them. Blind madhabis think following the mistakes of the Imam or scholars is Wajib.
Shah Wali Ullah also studied under his father, Abdur Rahim who was a Hanafi scholar. Like Albani he also went in the direct opposite direction of the fanatic madhabis & choose 2 follow the way of Ahlul Hadith. Do u call this falsehood? U should be shameful for ur ignorance. Read HUJJATILLAHIL BALIGAH, u will learn a lot
At the end of the day, at best, I can call him a "Feikh" (not a typo). These people have no regard for the deen. They wouldn't ask a doctor for daleel, as Sheih Rafi Usmani said, because the doctor would say go to medical school. Same with a lawyer with 20 years of experience, ask him for daleel and he'll say get my qualifications and my experience.
But, you fools have no regard for Islam because you believe you are qualified.
@HaqKaMuhafiz Akhi, this is an issue of disagreement and not necessarily black and white as we may think. Even during Imam Al-Bukhari's time, scholars said that 8 Hadith, give or take less, were weak. This is because all scholars have restricted this guarantee of authenticity to only the MUSNAD (with a chain) narrations, which Al-Albani himself agreed with.
@HaqKaMuhafiz It's not blind following when you examine the evidences and weigh their strengths . . . That's in fact called 'Ittiba (reasoned following). Big difference.
@slaveofallah8jannah sorry to burst ur little bubble, albani has not done any good for this umma, if his promoting disunity, ur just too brainwashed and narrow minded to see the bigger picture, ur heretics and innovators of a methodology that has nothing to do with pure islam.
@slaveofallah8jannah lol your stalking of mrtruthhunter77 is entertaining and amusing but has nothing to do with the discussion! i myself prefer malcolm x finkelstein and chomsky to whoever gemmel is, no interest in fiction. i watch movies too, but wouldnt put interests down as fine women etc. none of us are perfect, some may not be 100% practising or may have made profiles when we weren't but are now. however this has nothing to do with fiqh and the issues at hand.salafi wrongdoers are a plenty
SALAFIS CANNOT DENY THAT ALBANI GOT CHUCKED OUT OF SAUDI BY THE RULERS OF THE TIME. BECAUSE E WAS GOING AGAINST THE SALAF US SALIHEEN. E CAME UP WITH FATWAS WHICH WERE NOT ACCEPTED E.G THE COVERING OF FACE IS NOT NEEDED FOR WOMEN!! INLILLAHI WA INNA ILAYHI RAJIOON!!
NO ONE who has made the confirmed mistakes of Nasridin Albani has ever continued to be referenced by the Islamic ummah! Clear evidence of insincere motives by wahhabi / "salafi" followers. Be very careful lest you wind up in their apostate machine dear brothers. Whether they say it means Iraq or they say it means the Moon, they are the Nejdis the our beloved Prophet (SAAS) warned us about again and again in the hadith literature.
@candyfall87 Really, student of Zakaria!! Now I don't need to watch the video because I know the aqeedah of Zakariay. Read "Mashaikh e chisti" by Zakariya & then tell me what is the difference between Deobandis & Berelovis, if you can find any difference.
and now we see books published by saud very beautifully with their literalist madhab and every hadith in the footnote says "sahih - albani". its a joke. no its worse. You dont fool us mr salafi manhaj, you only fool the foolish and arrogant among the people.
this person is not a scholar(the speaker), if he was he would not critisize scholars in this way,these are people who have closed the door to everything, and dont like others to who brings new knowledge to Deen, expose their innovations, May Allah gives all Hedaia
@evidenceANDlogic i am not in a postion to give fetwa since i dont have the knowledge to do so,but one thing i have learnt through my life is that i should respect all the scholars of the Islam, and i know that they r human and they are bound to make mistakes, to say that one Imam has not made any mistake n follow his words rather than the words of the prophet PBUH i dont know what to call them, no wonder they call themselves with names, but i am just a muslim and the follower of the Muhammad PB
@harrowcouncilman Good but how do you know when a scholar has made a mistake?isn't it through another scholar who has a different opinion? for someone who is not qualified, following a scholar he trusts is the best option.
@evidenceANDlogic i am not in a postion to give fetwa since i dont have the knowledge to do so,but one thing i have learnt through my life is that i should respect all the scholars of the Islam, and i know that they r human and they are bound to make mistakes, to say that one Imam has not made any mistake n follow his words rather than the words of the prophet PBUH i dont know what to call them, no wonder they call themselves with names, i am just a muslim and the follower of the Muhammad PBUH
Mr abdur raheem limbada, why don't you do some work for the ummah and produce books to distinguish the saheeh from the da'eef hadeeths in sunan ibn maajah, tirmithi, abu dawood, an-nasa'i etc. Real muhadditheen recognised and ackowledged shaikh al-albaanee's strength in hadeeth, Scholars of hadeeth from India pakistan, Egypt, KSA, Jordan, Mauritania(where there is great number of hadeeth scholars), algeria, and Libya all acknowledged the Shaikh's strength in Hadeeth.
@mutahri There is already enough work done in this area if you actually bother to go and read those books. I find it amazing when people start listing countries and try to give this impression that it's some kind of a universally accepted fact. Have you been to these countries you have listed and have verified what you're claiming? For the record salafis who claim to be following Sh Albani are a very small minority..approx 1-2% of the Sunni Muslims population.
@evidenceANDlogic: I would love for you to give me some name of these books brother...The countries I have given can be verified no big deal there and yes he was accepted more or less universally amongst the muslims. I don't stand or have a stance for "salafis" there are subgroups within "salafis" so which salafis are you talking about?
@mutahri Br, This is no problem. In fact I have just started work on some presentations which will Inshallah not only list books but other evidences so just wait for a while. However, how did you manage to work out that Sh Albani's work was universally accepted by Muslims? e.g. I know for sure, Salafis in Pakistani(known as Ahle-Hadith are a very small minority and only they follow his opinion. In Egypt, Dr Al Qaradawi has a very large number of followers and they don't follow him,..cont-
@evidenceANDlogic (6) There's a whole host of scholars in yemen and around the arab peninsula I am not going to mention all of them. Anyway I am not the argumentative type but abdur raheem limaba even criticised classical master hadeeth scholars with some one known scholar. He said Imam daraqutnee(rh) was weak and Imam ibn hibban(rh), also that they were fanatics! You see I doubt the credability of his investigation, inorder to investigate you ought to take all scholars views not a couple.
@mutahri (6). It's not fruitfull to start naming all the scholars who may have said something positive about Sh Albani's work because it's not difficult to name those who have said something negative.Really there isn't much to gain from this. Let me ask you something, is it ok to critisize four great imams by bringing false or debatable evidence? This has become a norm these days. If that's ok then why saying something negative about Sh Albani is such a big issue?Afterall it's an opinon.
@mutahri (6). It's not fruitfull to start naming all the scholars who may have said something positive about Sh Albani's work because it's not difficult to name those who have said something negative.Really there isn't much to gain from this. Let me ask you something, is it ok to critisize four great imams by bringing false or debatable evidence? This has become a norm these days. If that's ok then why saying something negative about Sh Albani is such a big issue?Afterall it's an opinon.
@evidenceANDlogic:(1) Let me keep it simple I.A. Did I say I was a scholar? No. Is what abdurraheem limbada saying difference of opinion? No, it is false accusations which there is clear evidence Sh al-albaanee has ijaazah. Is the investigation he did mutual? No it is not, he has picked 2 biased scholars who had indifferent views to al-albaani, a investigation ought to be mutual. Am I trying to Debate? Nope, just pointing out what he is accusing al-albani of not having. I have to agree with you
@evidenceANDlogic(2) you're right it is pointless, but I was stating what is the truth behind what abdurraheem is accusing al-albani of. If a scholar is to criticise another scholar, should it not be with the truth and not falsehood? Anyway I don't want to drag on pointlessly, I feel what I am saying to you, you just brush it aside and don't give it proper thought. I shall relieve myself from this post, you can have your view but just realise we need to be mutual when we seek the truth.
@mutahri (1)Br Have you seen Sh Albani's ijazah yourself?if the Sheikh in the video is relying on some sources (right or wrong) then you're doing the same. The same thing applies to investigation...one can easily reject the sources which certain people use against Imam Abu Hanifa but has that stopped them from using them?. There isn't an agreed database of Scholars where they have been categorised as 'biased' or not. I am afraid everyone is a bit biased and that's why this will not take us far.
@evidenceANDlogic (2) Like I said before I want to relieve myself from pointless dragging, I have pointed out there are clear sources and evidences against the accusation abdur raheem made. It's futile going on about. In his criticism he makes out all the "bad" aspects of shaikh al-albani, you don't hear him mention any good about him. And I Have a while ago, the sh al-albaanee differentiated the saheeh from the weak hadeeth for ibn majah, tirmithi etc, no one else did so..
@mutahri Sure don't drag this any further. This is my last message on this. Again do we have a universally accepted "clear sources and evidences" database?bro please learn something very simple, something which is clear evidence to you may not be to someone else and vice versa. Even with ahadiths, scholars have classified a number of them differently. Also do you hear anything good from salafis about other scholars?I don't and therefore it's not surprising to see a similar response from others.
@evidenceANDlogic : You're right, but come on brother, if some one is going to refute and accuse another scholar, is it not the right of the other scholar, that he do it with truth, overall mutual investigation, taking the view of many scholars except "the two" scholars who had issues with him, isn't that biased? If some one wanted a complete picture/idea of someone else, would you not check all the people and not only the adversaries. Anyway this is pointless and i am relieving myself this..
@mutahri If a group use pick and choose technique when it comes to them, the other party mostly likely will do the same..isn't it?Regardless of what's right or wrong, initiation of something like this, at least in my opinion is more dangerous than the reaction. Every second, third talk/khutbah of salafis I've attended in the last few years is full of criticism of any scholar or even the whole school they disagree with and they use any so called 'evidence' they can find. Isn't that biased?
@mutahri - cont- Indonesian muslims are mainly Shafais and they don't follow him. Same story in Bangladesh and India as Pakistan. This actually covers the large population of the Muslim World and the list goes on. I repeat, salafis are a small minority of 1-2% of the Sunni Muslims population. Now your 2nd question, which salafi sub group, well it's mainly the ones in the West, e.g. in the UK. I have no personal issue with them but I have the right to reply to the allegations.
@evidenceANDlogic 3) continued: to shaikh al-albaanee, but neither the less still acknowledged his scholarship in hadeeth rahimahullaah. I didn't say everyone follows shaikh al-albaanee, I said he was acknowledged by hadeeth scholars around the world. In bangladesh you have scholars like shaikh hussain syedi, shaikh abdul qayyum, in pakistan scholars such as suhaib hassan his father shaikh ghaffar(rh) hassan, sh ihsaanilaahi thaheer(rh) and so on.
@evidenceANDlogic:(4) in India you had the great hadeeth scholar such as shaykh abdussamad sharf ad-deen and others who names I don't remember top of my head. In egypt you had the Great muhaddith and investigator al-allaamah Ahmad shakir(rh), and now currently the top hadeeth scholars at this moment in Egypt such as shaikh abu ishaq al-huweyney, sh muhammad hassan, sh Yaasir burhani, sh al-muqaddim and many many more hadeeth scholars in Egypt
@mutahri (4) Again I can list well known scholars who have criticised Sh Albani's work but what exactly that's going to achieve? I said that Sh Albani's followers are a small minority in most parts of the Muslim World. Their most influence is in Saudi Arabia who currently provide large funds to publish books in the west written by the scholars they are influenced with. We are looking at this from two different angles and that's why not much can be achieved from this discussion.
@mutahri (3) br, it seems to me that you're trying hard to debate with the Sheikh in the video and in order to prove your point you will find the names of any Scholar who may have said something positive about Sh Albani's work. Again you're getting into a debate which unless you're a scholar, you should keep away from. If I name the scholars who have said something negative about Sh Albani's work then will that satisfy you? of course not because you have already made your choice. No Point.
@evidenceANDlogic (5) In Mauritania you had the Great scholar such as shaikh al-amin ash-shanqeetee(rh), sh saalim ash-shanqeetee(rh), and right now the currect highest Maliki authority and great hadeeth scholar Sh Muhammad ad-dudu and many more in mauritani I am just telling you those I know off my head. You see brother these scholars they might have differed with Sh al-albaanee but scholarship demanded they acknowledge Sh alalbani's status in hadeeth.
@mutahri Hmm. Well you see now this has turned into a debate which is not going to achieve anything. You can continue to believe that Sh Albani's work was highlighy recognised and accepted.
@evidenceANDlogic(2) you're right it is pointless, but I was stating what is the truth behind what abdurraheem is accusing al-albani of. If a scholar is to criticise another scholar, should it not be with the truth and not falsehood? Anyway I don't want to drag on pointlessly, I feel what I am saying to you, you just brush it aside and don't give it proper thought. I shall relieve myself from this post, you can have your view but just realise we need to be mutual when we seek the truth.
@mutahri (2) Br, the only one who knows what is 100% true is Allah. Scholars debate and critisize each other so get over it. How do you know I haven't given a proper thought? bro, this isn't a new topic and there have been a lot of discussions/debates on this. Anyway if you consider yourself to be an expert on Sh Albani's work then please contact the Sheikh in the video and arrange a debate with him or his colleague/student and present your TRUTH. I don't think it will be difficult to arrange.
@evidenceANDlogic Have I seen the ijazaah? It's in his book which I posted here few weeks ago. This question can be asked to every scholar. I can ask you have you seen abdur raheem's ijazah? As Limbada did this lecture he ought to research or ask the students of shaikh al-albani. Is it difficult for abdur raheem to contact his students? they are every where... Abour Imam Abu hanifa(rh) If it's real sources you have to accept them. If the salaf said something about some one will you reject it?
@mutahri Sure the question can be asked to every Scholar. Now why should I see Sh Abdur Raheem's Ijazah?am I the one who was debating the authenticity of his sources?you're the one who has this problem. I made a comment that all of us are relying on someone and you have now said yourself that your proof of Albani's Izajah is actually his own book. Now how will you know what the Salaf actually said?were you there? ofcourse not so you will rely on a scholar you trust and that's my point.
@evidenceANDlogic You seem to want to scrutinise every issue, ok If al-imam bukhaaree writes and quotes from the salaf-ussaalih, do we not trust and take it? All the hadeeth scholars written quotes from the salaf-ussalaalih. About sh Al-albaanee's ijazah lol, it is soo easy to checkk it up. All abdur-raheem needs to do is ask shaikh halabi in jordan to show the original copy of the ijaazah from shaikh ragheeb at-tabbaakh.
@mutahri (1)Br, not everything is black and white and not 1 + 1. The doubts about the Izajah didn't come out from thin air so at least go and check the other side of the story. By the way I have already looked at the view in favour of Sh Albani but I have also looked at the other view. Now if you think he had the Izajah then fine but please don't make this something which is obvious because it isn't. I'm guesing you have seen the following website: masud co uk/ ISLAM /nuh / masudq6 htm
@mutahri (2) and also seekingilm com/archives/376 again I'm not expecting you to agree with what's on the websites. I'm happy for you to follow Sh Albani, and if you think the evidence you have in favour is fine then it's good for you. Please keep in mind that I'm not trying to convince you. I'm simply highlighting that (1) not every 'evidence' is universally accepted i.e. it's not obvious, and (2)if one group starts criticism on 'debatable' evidence then the other in response may do as well.
Grand mufti of Saudi!! Big wow.
azizbinibraheem 2 days ago
Mashallah Now Salafi guys want unity with ahle sunnat,before 1year they were making fun of imam e azam abuhanifa,but they did not feel emotional,they were enjoying it.now when ahle sunnat scholars came to answer batil,now they want unity,mashallah. hanafi fiqh may allah make u happy in this life and here after.
theangrymuslim 2 weeks ago
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Since when did Albani become the final say on what is authentic and what is not? Majority of the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah wal jama'ah don't even consider him to be a scholar!
KABcontrols 3 weeks ago
people care more about what scholars nowadays say than those who were mountains compared to all those with knowledge in the past 200 years, this ummah is getting a lot of dodgey black spots
iloveafg123 1 month ago
This man has numerous clear & basic facts mixed up. It is you who has caused the fitna Abdur Raheem Limbada, Not Shaykh Al-Albaani!
Ignorance2Light 1 month ago
This was during the last haj of albani before he past away that he lead shaikh bin baz and sheikh uthaimeen in salah
oladijemi 1 month ago
Shaikh albani lead shaikh bin Baz in prayer since they both were hafidh ul quran but sheikh albani was more knowledgable on the Study of the Hadith of rasullah sallallahu alayhi wasalam, so sheikh albani was told to lead the salah, sheikh uthaimeen was also there but sheikh bin baz made sheikh albani lead salah, this was the status of sheikh albani in the eyes of the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia sheikh bin baz, shaikh bin baz had obviously good manners and respect towers albani may Allah have me
oladijemi 1 month ago
@le4manxxx shut your comments because you r not representing the salafis of Saudi and neither are you representing the salafis of the world. Sheikh al albani is Albanian but he was even the imam of sheikh bin Baz
oladijemi 1 month ago
You say that to know someone properly, you must stay with them close or be with them a lot. Will I have been with Hanafi brothers for years, the way they pray their Salat is irritating. How they move away from you when you come close to them. And once someone was asked where Allah was, it was replied Allah is everywhere Wa Iyaadu Billah. Don't disrespect Sheikh Albani, you're not even near the level of the Scholars of Saudi at his time, they didn't even refute him like this. May Allah Guide u.
le4manxxx 1 month ago
Shaikh Albani wrote on the topicSo where does Limbada see here that the grave should be removed? Rather it is the mosque that should be reshaped.
oladijemi 1 month ago
Another slander. S. Albani knew very well the grave was not in the mosque; rather it was in the house of `A'ishah, over which the mosque was later on extended.
oladijemi 1 month ago
How dare limbada call al albani a stupid idiot! How dare the teacher of limbada call albani a kabees which is the Urdu for devil! Where are the manners of these people! And when he called albani a stupid idiot people in the background were laughing! Limbada clearly calls albani a stupid idiot in another of his lecture not this one! How dare he! Has he no manners for a high caliber muhaddith and scholar who has served the sunnah, limbada will have to answer to Allah
oladijemi 1 month ago
May Allah have mercy on Sheikh Albani, many jelous people have spoken against him and have even conspired against him
oladijemi 1 month ago
can anyone note this, and write down as a letter and sent to sh.limbada for his Islah?
oladijemi 1 month ago
At 14:56 Limbada gee says that the people of Madina wrote to King Faisal complaining about Al,Albani. King Faisal was killed in 1975, if Limbada cant get such basic facts right how can someone trust him with their deen?
oladijemi 1 month ago
I advise to follow the manhaj of the salaf. Sheikh albani was not thrown out of Saudi or medina rather his contract at madina university ended!
oladijemi 1 month ago
i love mufti taqi usmani and surely he wouldnt say such a thing. first i got angry to see this and then saddened. neo salafis are attacking everyone and u have chosen the same path. ALLAH is watching to things to unite, have patience and u will win together, and plz its a request brother stop this remove this video. and wherever the jamah is will unite INSHA ALLAH
samethen1234 1 month ago
where is the hikmah my brother to deal so we can come closer, but this is a disaster. MAY ALLAH GUIDE ME AND YOU.
samethen1234 1 month ago
there were differences among scholar and they have the right to debate and should be respected, but this is going to far and same goes to neo salafi
samethen1234 1 month ago
Assalumu alikum. this is the first time i'm posting any comments in youtube due to severity of this lecture. i follow saudi sheiks but yet i love many deobandis by heart, and always felt to solve our differences. i have a lot of deoband friends, and one student of jamia faroooqia karachi even praised albani saying him a salaf. i'm against neo salafis. but even though there are good lectures in your channel which i liked but this is really disappointed and u r creating neo deobandiya
samethen1234 1 month ago
What do you mean wahabis are najas, bring your proof if you are truthful
oladijemi 1 month ago
Search for this video on youtube for the response to this video: "Response Who was Nasiruddin Albani Salafi? 1 Hanafi fiqh Channel" from brother Youtubecom/LifewithAllah
IslaminUrdu 1 month ago 3
Wahabis are najas
yusufulhas 1 month ago
hehe
Its not hanafifiqh its hanafimuta'asib channel.
akbarindubai 1 month ago
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IslaminUrdu 2 months ago
watch?v=iK5CltvmXJk&feature=g-all-a&list=PLD1F4B969A7E41DC4&context=G2e92e9aFAAAAAAAAKAA
please watch this video
Faruk1189 2 months ago
Sheikh Al Albani lived and worked in Syria. He dint repair watches in some shop in medina and he dint get his knowledge from books in medina. Why hasnt the speaker got this info correct? If i was to talk about a person i would seek knowledge about him before giving a talk
falim2007 2 months ago
@IslaminUrdu The vid dont't work
AbouJoggingsbroek 2 months ago
All salafis try to say he got general ijazahs which he did from a scholar hu 1nce visited him in Syria but general one is not part of your isnad it's purley for baraka. I've heard the replies thier are not satisfactory. These people attack the great imams like Abu hanifah and ghazalli, imam subki, IBn hajar, IBn jawzi , but cum Albani "oh Noo don't debate his credibility in hadith he is a master" what duoble standards. Likes of Abu musab blind follow him and u can tell by the way they speak an
SUPERSAJINZ 2 months ago
@SUPERSAJINZ
They're diseased(salafis). dissassociate from the likes of such folk and partake yourself to the cave.
yusufulhas 1 month ago
Not salamis, i mean salafis
oladijemi 2 months ago
@ oigeezer Sheikh Nuh Keller is a Sufi of the shadhili order, Sufi and wahabi/salamis are in opposition to each other
oladijemi 2 months ago
love it mashallah, at last we are hearing the truth
ahmed78697 2 months ago 2
This man abdur raheem Abu nauman is extremely biased, he has an agenda, his agenda is muqalideen, deobandis, tablighi, soofi, matireedi, a shari, al albani does have a chain, watch the video by shaikh sahib Hassan and you will know
oladijemi 2 months ago
@oladijemi
No, there is an article by Sheikh Nuh Keller. He goes into depth determining the truth, quoting the family friends of Albani's Hanafi father and hearing their stories.
oigeezer 2 months ago
Click on this link to read the fatwa Saudi shaikh al munajjid issued on shaikh al albani
oladijemi 2 months ago
Nhh
oladijemi 2 months ago
Gfgffh
oladijemi 2 months ago
AL BANI WAS A BIGGER MUHADITH THAN ME OR YOU..BUT........HE MADE ERRORS WHICH HAD BIG CONSEQUENCES. GOING AGAINST IJMA (CONSENSUS) IS NOT A WISE THING TO DO! HE SHOULD NOT BE CRITICISED BY ME OR U BUT PPL SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF THE ERRORS TO SAFEGUARD DEEN
rumzoo 3 months ago
REFUTED - OPEN YOUR EYES - youtube.com/watch?v=l4G_JVlGFM8
MuslimKnight91 3 months ago 2
youtube.com/watch?v=tp35cBVrMZY
IslaminUrdu 3 months ago 2
Shaikh Nassirudeen Al Abanee--- May Allaah Grant Him The Highest Place In Jannah.... The Greatest Muhadeeth in our Time -- Thats Whom He Was....
tawheedsunnah 4 months ago 19
@tawheedsunnah
What happen to not going overboard with a scholar? Hypocrite. PseudoSalafis have set double standards. Albani does not compare to even new Alims out of a Darul Uloom.
oigeezer 3 months ago
@tawheedsunnah
Find me non psuedoSalafi that says that. All the Imams of the past and true scholars now and recent times were praised by people of all madhabs, albani was only praised by those who were also pseudosalafi.
oigeezer 2 months ago
@tawheedsunnah oke then but dont taqleed to him..may i ask,better him or imam al bukhari?
pembelajararif 1 month ago
@tawheedsunnah loool
iloveafg123 1 month ago
Great scholars of our time have praised him extensively. The late Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Ibraheem Aal Sheikh said, And he is the upholder of the Sunnah, a supporter of the truth and in opposition to the people of falsehood. The late former Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Baz said, I have not seen anyone under the surface of the sky with more knowledge of Hadith in our current times than the likes of the great scholar, Muhammad Nasir-ud-Deen Al-Albani.
SunnahWay 5 months ago
@SunnahWay Muhammad Al-Albani, may Allah have mercy upon him, is considered a flagbearer and Imam in the sciences of hadith to the pseudo-salafis of our era. What the majority of these psuedo-salafis do not know is that Al-Albaani contradicted himself numerous times throughout his published works on hadith, lending to the Sunni claim that he is not a scholar of hadith and is in fact not authorized, or even qualified, to grade chains.
Faruk1189 4 months ago
@SunnahWay no offence but both of your comments are wrong. firstly he never showed respect for hanafi scholars or the school of fiqh. at one point he even claims the muqalid is the worst kafir on the planet, in another place he says the layman should do taqleed! i hope he passed away on the latter opinion and may Allah have mercy on him. you are right that some government scholars praised his KNOWLEDGE but they would agree his work was flawed. they too made dodgy fatwas about US forces in hijaaz
boxermaf 4 months ago
May ALLAH guide US, we are Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jammah........we are acting as if one of us are christians and the other group is Muslims, fear Allah with your comments....what you type as commments is being written by the Angle as Allah has informed us in the Qur'an
Fear Allah, Do not be divided....I dont agree with some of the Sheikh comments the scholars are our role models, they do not disrespect each other, we should do the same
SunnahWay 5 months ago
@SunnahWay
No, only PseudoSalafis praised him. Name a Hanafi, Shafi'e, Maliki or (an orthodox) Hanbali who praised him. No-one.
oigeezer 3 months ago
secondly he was not "kicked out" of madinah university,and if anybody has any doubts they can phone madinah university etc and to this day albani's books are taught in madinah university and all over saudi, so if they extradited him surely they would have banned his books. and ive never seen a dhaeef al tirmidhi, maybe someone can enlighten me.....
so we should always have accurate information because Allah (swt) will question us in regards to what we spread
anyway may Allah guide us
lafanga0 5 months ago
some of the statements are wrong in this video, albani didnt have a repair watch shop in madinah, he had it in damascus
so this is a wrong statement
lafanga0 5 months ago
I think it is wrong for this video to be published, if somebody was to upload a video about critisizing Imam abu Hanifa then all us "hanafi" would be offended, so we should try to respect other imams of other muslims. we cant expect nobody to critisize Imam abu Hanifa while we ourselves critisize other peoples Imams.
Allah hu Alam
MuhammedP23 5 months ago
@MuhammedP23 how can you compare infact how dare you compare sheikh albani sahib with imam abu hanifa ra. Imam abu hanifa ra was from one of the best eras and even saw some sahabas and is respected by the greatest scholars of history and is and was also followed by many of them subhanallah.where as sheikh albani sb allah knows best. please dont compare them as imam abu hanifa is one of the greatest scholars ever in history no question.
1946mohammed 5 months ago
@1946mohammed im not comparing them, im a hanfi myself through and through. im just saying that as we want our imam to be respected we should also respect others. and PLUS i did not compare the imams in anyway, i didnt compare how much knowledge the imams had, i didnt compare how versed in hadith they were, i didnt compare how much quran they both knew, i didnt compare who is better in fatawa, i nsay which imam is better, all i said was we shud respect other peoples imams.
MuhammedP23 5 months ago
@MuhammedP23
And Masha-Allah, Allah The Most High has given you the knowledge that Albani can not compare to the someone such as Imam Abu Hanifa (RA).
Alhamdulillah, Allah The Most High has given me two legs and I can run at however many km/h. But you don't see me comparing myself with the speed of light.
So why compare a man with not even a sanad to our father in fiqh?
oigeezer 5 months ago
@MuhammedP23
There's a massive difference between criticising and warning people against evil. This one is the latter, and should thus be encouraged in an appropriate manner. Maulana has spoken softly with evidence. What more could you want?
oigeezer 5 months ago
@MuhammedP23
Following the "respect other people's Imam" analogy, should I respect Mirza Ghulam?
No. Why? Because he spread falsehood - and corrupted hearts and minds of people.
I believe this fitna of being ghair Muqalid greater as they are attacking Islam from within. They call themselves Salafi when ironically they are the opposite. They have no fixed structure, belief or a group, so when they say they are following one way, they know very well that's not the case.
oigeezer 5 months ago
@oigeezer may Allah reward your hardwork..u know a true God fearing person only needs one hadith for him to comply with fear but a person who has no fear of Allah at all nomatter how many sources we produce they will still irritate us to the core with their ignorance and allegations..Allah only guides whom He wills and ilm can only be acquired thru humbleness, thats y i typed that message to that user account person..
candyfall87 5 months ago
@candyfall87
May Allah The Most High forgive me, and you, and all the Muslims, and guide us all.
oigeezer 5 months ago
@oigeezer that message was for that user name of slaveofallah8jannah..because that person was provoking me into a quarrel..i don't want to remind or warn such people who dont fear Allah just like in the Quran we can only warn those who fears Allah and have understanding..truth always stands alone and lies need alota support..like that i dont wish to argue or debate with such people who are mere ignorant..the best i can do is pray for them hidayat..i was not implying any negative on u..
candyfall87 5 months ago
Allah loves most the person who stops arguing though he has the means to do so..just for the sake of Allah..and Allah devoids blessings on two Muslims who are quarreling
candyfall87 5 months ago
@candyfall87
I know this, Alhamdulillah. But how can I stop when I've seen first-hand what happens when people allow fitna to spread? If I'm honest, I no longer bother with these people to attempt to change them. I bother with them to make sure they don't change others. It's so easy throwing one cheap statement taken completely out of context to completely undermine a view, scholar, or even an entire madhab? How can I stay silent?
oigeezer 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah when u speak can almost taste the bitterness n hatred that u have in u..what has become upon u?? why this much vengence? u believe in e same kalimah which i believe thats more than enuf for Muslim to be united,and not nit pick,probe and always creating disunity within Muslims..no wonder the kafirs r always laughing at us, if we Muslims are so against each other then where will be brotherhood? if so and so has a different opinion, let it be, learn to always unite wif e kalima
candyfall87 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah Imam Shafiee rahmatualaihi has said "it has become a norm pointing fingers at others but the greatest problem lies within me and honestly if i can fix the mistakes in me then there is no any problems left in the world!"
candyfall87 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah If u are right may Allah reward u and if i am right may Allah reward me..a true good Muslim always fears Allah in his public and private life and never nit pick or probe on other people's mistake..you gotta eat the pudding to know its taste like that i don't wish to waste my prcious time on people who can see but blind and who can hear but deaf..like what imam Shafiee rahmatualaihi has said..(cont)
candyfall87 5 months ago
I thought he would give references???
Ahaa..Now i know you guys are Blind Followers...?? Refute who ever you want...but the Haqq - The Truth is out there....you need to see the facts and not stories....
warriorb0y 5 months ago
Masha'Allah :)
06alamm 6 months ago
The biography of Sheikh Albani is available to purchase so i suggest those interested should read it. Much of the information in the book is from the students of Shiekh Albani and the book was varified by a student of his, Ash Sheikh Al-Ameen Al- Haleel. As Shiekh Abdurrahim said we should look at the people who sat with a person and what they have to say about them. There are numerous accounts of what other scholars have said about him there.
zamanr1 6 months ago
@zamanr1
I once flicked through a biography of Albani in a bookshop. I couldn't stop laughing when it was written in the same way as a phenomenal Imam of the past - just with less phenomenal characteristics...
"No blemishes on his face"
"No-one could keep up with him on the stairs"
Amazing?
And those other scholars are all pseudoSalafis right?
A great scholar is praised by all four madhabs, not just the people of the madhab.
pseudoSalafis are too biased.
oigeezer 5 months ago
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sherhabbu 6 months ago
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sherhabbu 6 months ago
In 6:10, You mean Hassan ibn Ali As-Saqaaf who said the Mu`tazilah are Aimatul Hudaa? So are you Mu`tazili then?
saqqfish 7 months ago
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very good video very much needed of the time we are living in, where ghair muqalids are spreading there fitna all over the media
1946mohammed 7 months ago 3
And how dare you speak about the mujaddid of this era??? You and and your likes will never harm the Noble Muhaddith Shaikh Nasir Uddin Al Albani Rahimahullah. Deobandi grave worshippers.
IslamBangla 7 months ago
@IslamBangla The last line just negates everything you have written, and is a testament to your falsehood.
usman606060 6 months ago
@usman606060
I agree.
oigeezer 6 months ago
@usman606060 Go and read your books properly and then come back !!!
IslamBangla 6 months ago
@IslamBangla
What books do you have? Not two pseudoSalafis in the world are the same and they believe they are on the only right path! You criticise our scholars when you don't even have any!
Every pseudoSalafi says that how can you have wudhu and not have wudhu at the same time according to different madhabs? Abu Bakr (RA) and Aisha (RA) did not hold the same opinion as Umar (RA) and Uthmaan (RA) and Ali (RA) over the starting of Maghrib.
Were those, the greatest Sahabi, wrong?
oigeezer 6 months ago
@oigeezer Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, & Ali Never went to the grave and asked for help !!!
IslamBangla 6 months ago
@IslamBangla
The disrespect pseudoSalafis show to the Prophet (SAW), the Sahabas and the Salaf is just disgusting. Not even May Allah be pleased with them.
oigeezer 6 months ago
@IslamBangla
Do you even know what a Deobandi is? Again, if you do, you are a liar. If you don't, you are ignorant. Feikh Albani was a high ranking person who expanded on the fitna of Najd, proved by several hadith (sahih for your peace of mind, I wouldn't mind because I don't reject hadith). Ibn Abdul Wahab started that fitna. And you turn a blind eye?
oigeezer 6 months ago
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IslamBangla 6 months ago
@oigeezer Deobandis are Liars "Hazrat Ibn Jalaa relates, "While in Medina I once suffered tremendous hunger. It became so unbearable that I presented myself at the grave of Rasoolullah and said, "O Rasoolullah, I suffer great hunger. I am now your guest." Thereafter, sleep overtook me and in a vision, I saw Rasoolullah give me a piece of bread. I ate half of it, and when I woke up, I found myself with the other half of that piece of bread still in my hands." Fear Allah !!!!!!!
IslamBangla 6 months ago
@IslamBangla
I have not heard this story, but I will not say it's falsehood.
Haven't you heard the story behind Qasida Burda?
What about Imam Tahawi and his paring his finger nails on a wednesday, and seeing a dream of the Prophet (SAW) and him leprosy being cured and him being cautioned not to do so again?
They had love for our so called "beloved" Prophet (SAW).
oigeezer 6 months ago
@oigeezer Only grave worshiper might be angered by muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab. I live in Bangladesh & fully aware about the deviant deobandis. They are semi sufis, semi ashariyyah. They call themselves Hanafi but contradict the belief & practice Abu Hanifa. The leader of the Deobandis is Imdadullah Muhajir Makki, who was an extreme sufi fighting for the propagation of Wahdatul Wujut & other shirki aqeedah. They also took Shia Batinee belief. One has to learn "secret knowledge" from their Peer.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@oigeezer I request sincerely to all Muslim brother & sister, type "The creed of deobandi elders" & just Google it. You will find the proof of devinat aqeedah of the deobandi scholars. Most the common people don't know about the misguidance of the deobandis & defend them thinking which is something good to do.
May Allah guide me and the muslim ummah to the siratul mustqeem not to the Sunnatul Awwalin (The path of the deviant peer bujurgo).
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah
You are either an ignorant or a liar. Or you are referring to deobandis as brelvis.
Al-Muhannad ala al-Mufannad (The Sword on the Disproved) also known as al-Tasdiqat li-Daf’ al-Talbisat (Endorsements Repelling Deceits) or Aqa’id Ulama Ahl al-Sunna Deoband (The Beliefs of the Sunni Scholars of Deoband).
These books were the answer to the Arab scholars questions on Deoband.
oigeezer 5 months ago
@oigeezer Berelovis & Deobandi declare one another as Kaafir, but in reality they share many deviant aqeedah. This is clearly documented in the book "The creed of deobandi elders".
It is clearly mentioned in Al-Muhannad ala al-Mufannad the link between ashari &Deobandi. It clearly states, Deobandi does not follow Imam Abu Hanifa in matters of Aqeedah, they follow Ash'ari Maturidi ideology.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah
What's wrong with Ash'ari and Matrudi aqeedas? Coming from anthropomorphist...
oigeezer 5 months ago
@oigeezer They contradict The book of Allah, The Sunnah of the Rasululllah (SAW), All the sahabis even 4 Imams of the 4 madhabs strongly criticized their deviance. Go back to history book, read what had 4 Imams said about Ilmul Qalam, which is indoctrinated by Ash'ari Maturidi from Greek philosophy.
I mention 1 point. They classify some hadith as Hadith Ahad, & say these hadith can not be believed though all the muhaddiseen agreed this hadith sahhih. They reject many hadith without valid reason
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah
Where is your daleel? Show me your daleel. I can only accept that which is backed by evidence.
oigeezer 5 months ago
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@slaveofallah8jannah
What's wrong with Ash'ari and Matrudi aqeedas? Coming from anthropomorphist...
oigeezer 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah
Funny how you criticise the aqeedas so much but can't say what's wrong with them.
oigeezer 5 months ago
@oigeezer Some of the deviant Deobandi Aqeedah. I can challenge anybody who can refute. You dont have to look too distance to find these, open Tabligi Nisaab, u will find many of them -
1. Wahdatul Wujud - (Pantheism) crystal clear shirk
2. Tadabbur-e-shaykh (Meditating on one's peer during Ibadah) - This is also shirk
3. Rasulullah SAW visits people, not in dream but in reality in this world
4. Peer, Bujurgo do not die. After death, they talk with their mureed, advice them or help them
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@oigeezer 5. Meditating on one's peer grave
6. Sufism - They adopted extreme sufi ideas by the notorious Ibn Arabi, Rumee etc.
7. Batinee knowledge - They took shia batinee ideology, Peer have secret knowledge from Allah (wahi?), one should give bayah to peer to attain this hidden knowledge
8. Following the mistakes done by Imam is WAJIB, one can not follow the correct opinion
9. They reject the names & attributes of Allah, twist the verses of the Quran
10. Finally, RAMPANT OF BIDAH PRACTICE.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@oigeezer If you dislike Saudi scholars, then read Hujjatillah Baligah by Shah Wali Ullah Dehlovi, It says, The Usul of Hanafee does not go back to Imam Abu Hanifa, rather it goes back to "Mu'tazilah". Every body knows about the wicked methodology of Mu'tazillah. You will also find many refutations of the Indian local Islam (now a days practiced by Deobadi & Berelovi).
May Allah guide us all to the truth.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
And I should listen to the deobandi scholars? He is talking about 'maulana zakariyya' the author of fadhail e Amal and a hardcore Sufi. Fadhail e Amal has stories of asking to the grave of rasulallah for help etc. and many more. And I should listen to this man whose scholars are calling upon grave of prophet for help instead of Allah? Subhanallah
anwar2u20 7 months ago
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@anwar2u20
Examples? Don't lie. They don't call upon the grave of Rasulullah (SAW) instead of Allah (SWT). Tell everyone the truth. If you know it, you are a liar. If you don't, you are an ignorant.
He was one of the greatest Muhaddith of the last century. His Khalifa include Shaykh Yunus Hafidahullah who has memorised 10,000 hadith and regarded by may as the person with the most knowledge of hadith today.
oigeezer 7 months ago
@AlQuranWalSunnah
Stay well clear of those who have the audacity and the arrogance to criticise madhabs and try to get you away from them.
Too many pseudoSalafis tell me your scholars made errors. When I don't have much time, I just say "You don't even have scholars. At best, your scholars were refuted and warned against by those who taught them. They are not Shaykhs. They are Faykhs."
oigeezer 7 months ago
@AlQuranWalSunnah
Regarding Albani, well, now you know the truth. It's now your choice whether to accept and act upon this truth, or keep with the ignorant belief Albani was a scholar in the field of hadith, or any field.
And no, this is definitely not gheebah.
oigeezer 7 months ago
1st of all ask this sheikh ul hadith who made him Hanafi,
theshahboy22 7 months ago
This firqa parasti will be the end of us.
kanwar47 7 months ago
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kanwar47 7 months ago
I can't believe people are still commenting on this video, for a more detailed exposure of his errors see here:
/watch?v=WPRKA-jY8Uk
StudentOfTheDeen 7 months ago
I didn’t know that Albani did not have a teacher, more then that I thought he studied hadith and fiqh. He is just a layman who selected hadith and just formed a new madhab. I cant belive the are people who out their would try comparing him to Abu Hanifa (ra)
Faruk1189 7 months ago
@Faruk1189 You fanatic lair. Albani studied under his father who was a Hanafi scholar. He was a layman!!! Yes he was a layman like Muhaddis Shah Wali Ullah Dehlovi (RA). It is quite interesting to me these two scholars of Hadith (Shah Wali Ullah & Albani), both of them studied under their father who were Hanafi scholars & both of them criticize the mistakes of their father’s Madhab.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah
Albani studied under his father and then completely went in the direct opposite direction, aka the direction of falsehood. If his father was here today, he would be the first defending others from the fitna of Albani. And Shah Waliullah did not criticise any madhab in the way you are implying (to my knowledge).
And NEVER compare Albani to Shah Waliullah Dehlawi. Na'uzubillah.
One oppressed the hadith and causes fitna - the other defended hadith.
oigeezer 5 months ago
@oigeezer I knew previously if I quote Shah Wali Ullah you can not deny. I suggest you to read the history thoroughly, who defended Hadith & who defended false ideology.
Read the books & fatwa by Shah Wali Ullah & Albani, u will find very similar because both of them defended Hadith not any madhab, Imam or madrasa. Regarding the mistakes of Albani & all other scholars, Ahle sunnah believe after Rasulullah SAW nobody is Masoom or infallible.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@oigeezer We accept the beneficial knowledge from the scholars, and leave the mistakes done by them. Blind madhabis think following the mistakes of the Imam or scholars is Wajib.
Shah Wali Ullah also studied under his father, Abdur Rahim who was a Hanafi scholar. Like Albani he also went in the direct opposite direction of the fanatic madhabis & choose 2 follow the way of Ahlul Hadith. Do u call this falsehood? U should be shameful for ur ignorance. Read HUJJATILLAHIL BALIGAH, u will learn a lot
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
All the people calling this speaker's arguments strange wouldn't dare to say it in front of this Shaykh-ul-Hadith's face. Typical cowards.
oigeezer 8 months ago
At the end of the day, at best, I can call him a "Feikh" (not a typo). These people have no regard for the deen. They wouldn't ask a doctor for daleel, as Sheih Rafi Usmani said, because the doctor would say go to medical school. Same with a lawyer with 20 years of experience, ask him for daleel and he'll say get my qualifications and my experience.
But, you fools have no regard for Islam because you believe you are qualified.
oigeezer 8 months ago 12
@HaqKaMuhafiz Akhi, this is an issue of disagreement and not necessarily black and white as we may think. Even during Imam Al-Bukhari's time, scholars said that 8 Hadith, give or take less, were weak. This is because all scholars have restricted this guarantee of authenticity to only the MUSNAD (with a chain) narrations, which Al-Albani himself agreed with.
MrVahedi 8 months ago
@HaqKaMuhafiz It's not blind following when you examine the evidences and weigh their strengths . . . That's in fact called 'Ittiba (reasoned following). Big difference.
MrVahedi 8 months ago
al-Bani = secret british agent
mrtruthhunter1977 8 months ago
@mrtruthhunter1977 Fear Allah. Such a dirty comment.
You may not like his zeal for Hadith of Rasulullah (SAW), but do not say such word which may lead you to destroy.
May Allah give u & me the understanding of the deen.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah sorry to burst ur little bubble, albani has not done any good for this umma, if his promoting disunity, ur just too brainwashed and narrow minded to see the bigger picture, ur heretics and innovators of a methodology that has nothing to do with pure islam.
mrtruthhunter1977 5 months ago
@mrtruthhunter1977 Allah does not guide the wrongdoer.
Interests : Weightlifting, Sports, WOMEN and fine cuisine, traveling, shopping , animals and reading
Movies : Shaw sank redemption, Jackie chan "Who am i" Project a, wheels on meals, X-men, Fantastic Four, list goes on.
Books : all of David Gemmell books , but the best one is Sword in the storm and Druss the legend, Waylander.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah sorry my bad, still does'nt negate the facts about albani mentioned in the video.
mrtruthhunter1977 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah lol your stalking of mrtruthhunter77 is entertaining and amusing but has nothing to do with the discussion! i myself prefer malcolm x finkelstein and chomsky to whoever gemmel is, no interest in fiction. i watch movies too, but wouldnt put interests down as fine women etc. none of us are perfect, some may not be 100% practising or may have made profiles when we weren't but are now. however this has nothing to do with fiqh and the issues at hand.salafi wrongdoers are a plenty
boxermaf 4 months ago
SALAFIS CANNOT DENY THAT ALBANI GOT CHUCKED OUT OF SAUDI BY THE RULERS OF THE TIME. BECAUSE E WAS GOING AGAINST THE SALAF US SALIHEEN. E CAME UP WITH FATWAS WHICH WERE NOT ACCEPTED E.G THE COVERING OF FACE IS NOT NEEDED FOR WOMEN!! INLILLAHI WA INNA ILAYHI RAJIOON!!
rumzoo 8 months ago
NO ONE who has made the confirmed mistakes of Nasridin Albani has ever continued to be referenced by the Islamic ummah! Clear evidence of insincere motives by wahhabi / "salafi" followers. Be very careful lest you wind up in their apostate machine dear brothers. Whether they say it means Iraq or they say it means the Moon, they are the Nejdis the our beloved Prophet (SAAS) warned us about again and again in the hadith literature.
Shareefllovekdj 8 months ago
Mashallah! This shiekh was taught by maulana zakariya khandlawi! Omg! May Allah best u both! maulana zakariya is a great wali of Allah!
candyfall87 8 months ago
@candyfall87 Really, student of Zakaria!! Now I don't need to watch the video because I know the aqeedah of Zakariay. Read "Mashaikh e chisti" by Zakariya & then tell me what is the difference between Deobandis & Berelovis, if you can find any difference.
slaveofallah8jannah 5 months ago
@slaveofallah8jannah
These are among some of the scholars who accepted and endorsed the work.
1) Shaykh Muhammad Sa’id Ba Busayl al-Shafi’i (Shafi’i Mufti of Makka)
2) Shaykh Muhammad Abid ibn Huseyn al-Maliki (Maliki Mufti of Makka)
3) Shaykh as-Sayyid Ahmad al-Barzanji (Mufti of the Shafi’is in Madina)
4) Shaykh Ahmad ibn Muhammad Khayr al-Shinquiti al-Maliki (Madina)
5) al-Allama al-Imam Shaykh Saleem al-Bishri (Shaykh of al-Azhar in Egypt)
oigeezer 5 months ago
@oigeezer
Taken from an answer by Mufti Ibn Adam Al-Kawthari from his website.
oigeezer 5 months ago
and now we see books published by saud very beautifully with their literalist madhab and every hadith in the footnote says "sahih - albani". its a joke. no its worse. You dont fool us mr salafi manhaj, you only fool the foolish and arrogant among the people.
hudders128 8 months ago
this person is not a scholar(the speaker), if he was he would not critisize scholars in this way,these are people who have closed the door to everything, and dont like others to who brings new knowledge to Deen, expose their innovations, May Allah gives all Hedaia
harrowcouncilman 9 months ago
@harrowcouncilman Thank you Sheikh @harrowcouncilman for delivering your fatwa.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic i am not in a postion to give fetwa since i dont have the knowledge to do so,but one thing i have learnt through my life is that i should respect all the scholars of the Islam, and i know that they r human and they are bound to make mistakes, to say that one Imam has not made any mistake n follow his words rather than the words of the prophet PBUH i dont know what to call them, no wonder they call themselves with names, but i am just a muslim and the follower of the Muhammad PB
harrowcouncilman 8 months ago
@harrowcouncilman Good but how do you know when a scholar has made a mistake?isn't it through another scholar who has a different opinion? for someone who is not qualified, following a scholar he trusts is the best option.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic i am not in a postion to give fetwa since i dont have the knowledge to do so,but one thing i have learnt through my life is that i should respect all the scholars of the Islam, and i know that they r human and they are bound to make mistakes, to say that one Imam has not made any mistake n follow his words rather than the words of the prophet PBUH i dont know what to call them, no wonder they call themselves with names, i am just a muslim and the follower of the Muhammad PBUH
harrowcouncilman 8 months ago
This question wraps it all up: Who was the teacher of Albani?
azrinsani 9 months ago
Mr abdur raheem limbada, why don't you do some work for the ummah and produce books to distinguish the saheeh from the da'eef hadeeths in sunan ibn maajah, tirmithi, abu dawood, an-nasa'i etc. Real muhadditheen recognised and ackowledged shaikh al-albaanee's strength in hadeeth, Scholars of hadeeth from India pakistan, Egypt, KSA, Jordan, Mauritania(where there is great number of hadeeth scholars), algeria, and Libya all acknowledged the Shaikh's strength in Hadeeth.
mutahri 9 months ago 2
@mutahri There is already enough work done in this area if you actually bother to go and read those books. I find it amazing when people start listing countries and try to give this impression that it's some kind of a universally accepted fact. Have you been to these countries you have listed and have verified what you're claiming? For the record salafis who claim to be following Sh Albani are a very small minority..approx 1-2% of the Sunni Muslims population.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic: I would love for you to give me some name of these books brother...The countries I have given can be verified no big deal there and yes he was accepted more or less universally amongst the muslims. I don't stand or have a stance for "salafis" there are subgroups within "salafis" so which salafis are you talking about?
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri Br, This is no problem. In fact I have just started work on some presentations which will Inshallah not only list books but other evidences so just wait for a while. However, how did you manage to work out that Sh Albani's work was universally accepted by Muslims? e.g. I know for sure, Salafis in Pakistani(known as Ahle-Hadith are a very small minority and only they follow his opinion. In Egypt, Dr Al Qaradawi has a very large number of followers and they don't follow him,..cont-
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic (6) There's a whole host of scholars in yemen and around the arab peninsula I am not going to mention all of them. Anyway I am not the argumentative type but abdur raheem limaba even criticised classical master hadeeth scholars with some one known scholar. He said Imam daraqutnee(rh) was weak and Imam ibn hibban(rh), also that they were fanatics! You see I doubt the credability of his investigation, inorder to investigate you ought to take all scholars views not a couple.
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri (6). It's not fruitfull to start naming all the scholars who may have said something positive about Sh Albani's work because it's not difficult to name those who have said something negative.Really there isn't much to gain from this. Let me ask you something, is it ok to critisize four great imams by bringing false or debatable evidence? This has become a norm these days. If that's ok then why saying something negative about Sh Albani is such a big issue?Afterall it's an opinon.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@mutahri (6). It's not fruitfull to start naming all the scholars who may have said something positive about Sh Albani's work because it's not difficult to name those who have said something negative.Really there isn't much to gain from this. Let me ask you something, is it ok to critisize four great imams by bringing false or debatable evidence? This has become a norm these days. If that's ok then why saying something negative about Sh Albani is such a big issue?Afterall it's an opinon.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic:(1) Let me keep it simple I.A. Did I say I was a scholar? No. Is what abdurraheem limbada saying difference of opinion? No, it is false accusations which there is clear evidence Sh al-albaanee has ijaazah. Is the investigation he did mutual? No it is not, he has picked 2 biased scholars who had indifferent views to al-albaani, a investigation ought to be mutual. Am I trying to Debate? Nope, just pointing out what he is accusing al-albani of not having. I have to agree with you
mutahri 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic(2) you're right it is pointless, but I was stating what is the truth behind what abdurraheem is accusing al-albani of. If a scholar is to criticise another scholar, should it not be with the truth and not falsehood? Anyway I don't want to drag on pointlessly, I feel what I am saying to you, you just brush it aside and don't give it proper thought. I shall relieve myself from this post, you can have your view but just realise we need to be mutual when we seek the truth.
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri (1)Br Have you seen Sh Albani's ijazah yourself?if the Sheikh in the video is relying on some sources (right or wrong) then you're doing the same. The same thing applies to investigation...one can easily reject the sources which certain people use against Imam Abu Hanifa but has that stopped them from using them?. There isn't an agreed database of Scholars where they have been categorised as 'biased' or not. I am afraid everyone is a bit biased and that's why this will not take us far.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic (2) Like I said before I want to relieve myself from pointless dragging, I have pointed out there are clear sources and evidences against the accusation abdur raheem made. It's futile going on about. In his criticism he makes out all the "bad" aspects of shaikh al-albani, you don't hear him mention any good about him. And I Have a while ago, the sh al-albaanee differentiated the saheeh from the weak hadeeth for ibn majah, tirmithi etc, no one else did so..
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri Sure don't drag this any further. This is my last message on this. Again do we have a universally accepted "clear sources and evidences" database?bro please learn something very simple, something which is clear evidence to you may not be to someone else and vice versa. Even with ahadiths, scholars have classified a number of them differently. Also do you hear anything good from salafis about other scholars?I don't and therefore it's not surprising to see a similar response from others.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic : You're right, but come on brother, if some one is going to refute and accuse another scholar, is it not the right of the other scholar, that he do it with truth, overall mutual investigation, taking the view of many scholars except "the two" scholars who had issues with him, isn't that biased? If some one wanted a complete picture/idea of someone else, would you not check all the people and not only the adversaries. Anyway this is pointless and i am relieving myself this..
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri If a group use pick and choose technique when it comes to them, the other party mostly likely will do the same..isn't it?Regardless of what's right or wrong, initiation of something like this, at least in my opinion is more dangerous than the reaction. Every second, third talk/khutbah of salafis I've attended in the last few years is full of criticism of any scholar or even the whole school they disagree with and they use any so called 'evidence' they can find. Isn't that biased?
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@mutahri - cont- Indonesian muslims are mainly Shafais and they don't follow him. Same story in Bangladesh and India as Pakistan. This actually covers the large population of the Muslim World and the list goes on. I repeat, salafis are a small minority of 1-2% of the Sunni Muslims population. Now your 2nd question, which salafi sub group, well it's mainly the ones in the West, e.g. in the UK. I have no personal issue with them but I have the right to reply to the allegations.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic 3) continued: to shaikh al-albaanee, but neither the less still acknowledged his scholarship in hadeeth rahimahullaah. I didn't say everyone follows shaikh al-albaanee, I said he was acknowledged by hadeeth scholars around the world. In bangladesh you have scholars like shaikh hussain syedi, shaikh abdul qayyum, in pakistan scholars such as suhaib hassan his father shaikh ghaffar(rh) hassan, sh ihsaanilaahi thaheer(rh) and so on.
mutahri 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic:(4) in India you had the great hadeeth scholar such as shaykh abdussamad sharf ad-deen and others who names I don't remember top of my head. In egypt you had the Great muhaddith and investigator al-allaamah Ahmad shakir(rh), and now currently the top hadeeth scholars at this moment in Egypt such as shaikh abu ishaq al-huweyney, sh muhammad hassan, sh Yaasir burhani, sh al-muqaddim and many many more hadeeth scholars in Egypt
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri (4) Again I can list well known scholars who have criticised Sh Albani's work but what exactly that's going to achieve? I said that Sh Albani's followers are a small minority in most parts of the Muslim World. Their most influence is in Saudi Arabia who currently provide large funds to publish books in the west written by the scholars they are influenced with. We are looking at this from two different angles and that's why not much can be achieved from this discussion.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@mutahri (3) br, it seems to me that you're trying hard to debate with the Sheikh in the video and in order to prove your point you will find the names of any Scholar who may have said something positive about Sh Albani's work. Again you're getting into a debate which unless you're a scholar, you should keep away from. If I name the scholars who have said something negative about Sh Albani's work then will that satisfy you? of course not because you have already made your choice. No Point.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic (5) In Mauritania you had the Great scholar such as shaikh al-amin ash-shanqeetee(rh), sh saalim ash-shanqeetee(rh), and right now the currect highest Maliki authority and great hadeeth scholar Sh Muhammad ad-dudu and many more in mauritani I am just telling you those I know off my head. You see brother these scholars they might have differed with Sh al-albaanee but scholarship demanded they acknowledge Sh alalbani's status in hadeeth.
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri Hmm. Well you see now this has turned into a debate which is not going to achieve anything. You can continue to believe that Sh Albani's work was highlighy recognised and accepted.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic(2) you're right it is pointless, but I was stating what is the truth behind what abdurraheem is accusing al-albani of. If a scholar is to criticise another scholar, should it not be with the truth and not falsehood? Anyway I don't want to drag on pointlessly, I feel what I am saying to you, you just brush it aside and don't give it proper thought. I shall relieve myself from this post, you can have your view but just realise we need to be mutual when we seek the truth.
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri (2) Br, the only one who knows what is 100% true is Allah. Scholars debate and critisize each other so get over it. How do you know I haven't given a proper thought? bro, this isn't a new topic and there have been a lot of discussions/debates on this. Anyway if you consider yourself to be an expert on Sh Albani's work then please contact the Sheikh in the video and arrange a debate with him or his colleague/student and present your TRUTH. I don't think it will be difficult to arrange.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic Have I seen the ijazaah? It's in his book which I posted here few weeks ago. This question can be asked to every scholar. I can ask you have you seen abdur raheem's ijazah? As Limbada did this lecture he ought to research or ask the students of shaikh al-albani. Is it difficult for abdur raheem to contact his students? they are every where... Abour Imam Abu hanifa(rh) If it's real sources you have to accept them. If the salaf said something about some one will you reject it?
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri Sure the question can be asked to every Scholar. Now why should I see Sh Abdur Raheem's Ijazah?am I the one who was debating the authenticity of his sources?you're the one who has this problem. I made a comment that all of us are relying on someone and you have now said yourself that your proof of Albani's Izajah is actually his own book. Now how will you know what the Salaf actually said?were you there? ofcourse not so you will rely on a scholar you trust and that's my point.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@evidenceANDlogic You seem to want to scrutinise every issue, ok If al-imam bukhaaree writes and quotes from the salaf-ussaalih, do we not trust and take it? All the hadeeth scholars written quotes from the salaf-ussalaalih. About sh Al-albaanee's ijazah lol, it is soo easy to checkk it up. All abdur-raheem needs to do is ask shaikh halabi in jordan to show the original copy of the ijaazah from shaikh ragheeb at-tabbaakh.
mutahri 8 months ago
@mutahri (1)Br, not everything is black and white and not 1 + 1. The doubts about the Izajah didn't come out from thin air so at least go and check the other side of the story. By the way I have already looked at the view in favour of Sh Albani but I have also looked at the other view. Now if you think he had the Izajah then fine but please don't make this something which is obvious because it isn't. I'm guesing you have seen the following website: masud co uk/ ISLAM /nuh / masudq6 htm
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago
@mutahri (2) and also seekingilm com/archives/376 again I'm not expecting you to agree with what's on the websites. I'm happy for you to follow Sh Albani, and if you think the evidence you have in favour is fine then it's good for you. Please keep in mind that I'm not trying to convince you. I'm simply highlighting that (1) not every 'evidence' is universally accepted i.e. it's not obvious, and (2)if one group starts criticism on 'debatable' evidence then the other in response may do as well.
evidenceANDlogic 8 months ago