NH: Subcommittee attacks homeschoolers, liberty

[ariedaez1]

To poolman: you are do naive, it's so funny!!!!'

To cvcdgfghtr: are you sure you're looking at the facts, sounds to me that somebody needs to do a little bit more researching :(

People who are against homeschooling are the insecure parents who are in denial that HS is the best choice for their kids. They just couldn't afford to give their time and effort. :P

[MoneyIsSilver]

This sounds like one more excuse to tell the politicians and bureaucrats to "Blow it out their ass"! Though really, we should tell them that always.

[mistertattoozombie]

great reporting Dave!

[cvcdgftr7676545]

homeschooled children are starting to fall behind nowadays. something needs to be done to stop that. i hardly thing that making sure children are getting as good an education as they would be getting in public schools is hostile in any way. if you choose to educate your child then you should be held accountable just like any other teacher would.

[Michael7893]

oh shut up. it's been proven in countless studies that home schooled and private school children out perform state run schooled children. Wake up and realize that state education is nothing but watered down education.

[HHODork]

how are they falling behind? where are you getting that information? they are still well above 90% college grad rate.

[MoneyIsSilver]

not. My last girlfriend was homeschooled and her and her homeschooled friends are all much more intelligent than average. In fact, she graduated college summa cum laude. Of course, public schools in Colorado only produce mental retards.

[SSILENTNATION]

International School of Correspondence...summa cum laude - WAY TO GO last girlfriend!

[MoneyIsSilver]

sounds like you just like to rattle off stuff. Actually, she was a music major that studied in Italy and spoke fluent Italian as well as played entire classical pieces on piano without music. A real dummy huh?

[SSILENTNATION]

You forgot to mention she cured cancer too. Sorry she broke up with you - she sounds like a real KEEPER.

[philais]

Damn! she sounds like my NEW girl friend...

[vanillapie]

@MoneyIsSilver If homeschool is so great, then why didn't she get homeschooled through college as well.

[MoneyIsSilver]

You apparently had a public school education, since you don't understand logical fallacies in debate.

[p00lman]

Homeschooling parents are just religious extremist freaks. Stop indoctrinating your kids and let them live a normal life.

[sgbenne]

Wow, p00lman, I homeschooled all of my children, and they are wonderfully free thinking, caring and considerate. They are also wicked smart and talented. I am not religious, neither are they, and neither are any of us extremists. There are religious freaks in a wide range of matters, and they are also found in the public schools. In any case, if you are open to knowing the truth of the matter, just ask me.

[SugarMonkey528]

In other words, stop teaching your values to your children. Let the government replace your values with their own.

Is that what you truly believe?

And while you're at it, please define a "normal life". 

Thank you.

[p00lman]

Sorry bunky, but individual teachers are not "the government." Turn down that paranoia.

[SugarMonkey528]

Where do you think the "individual teachers" get their curriculum? They certainly don't make it up themselves. It's from the government, bunky.

[p00lman]

That's weird, I didn't know the government decides how we learn Spanish, what songs we play in jazz band, what the rules of dodgeball are, and how to dissect a frog. Thanks for pointing this out!

[SugarMonkey528]

You're welcome! They also are the ones who decide to teach your children (if you have any) about sex education, multi-culturalism, and that your rights come from government (and therefore can be taken away at will).

Gee, isn't government grand!

[p00lman]

You know I was being sarcastic, right?

Sex education is important unless you want your daughters to be high school dropouts because they're not yet 18 and raising three kids.

Multi-culturalism is very fucking important because - GUESS WHAT - we live in a multicultural culture! There are more than just white Christians here! Wake up!

[vanillapie]

@SugarMonkey528 There is nothing wrong with multi-culturalism, or with teaching multi-culturalism. Unless one is racist, of course.

[mojdfiv]

I feel that the testing has really hampered in school education. Instead of educating, they are instead drilled to pass these tests and sped through a wide range of curriculum leaving little time for the students to absorb what the information really means. My son scores in the 90% in our state according to these tests, but can't really explian even the basic concepts of what he has been taught in these rushed classes, he just knows what they tell him he needs to know.

[libertyfizz]

Here is what a pro-public education person argued. She said that young girls are turned into babysitters for their younger siblings. Then added some vague reference to religious home schoolers. And boys are forced to work for the family. The kids don't get a chance to be just kids.

My response was childhood had been extended too far now. Even if families had their kids helping out it is an educational experiences worth having. I hope NH homeschoolers keep up the fight.

[funktroop3r]

Well either way things should operate on a consensual basis if I can't use force to get you to have sex with me why is it ok to force someone to go to a public school.

[Malthus0]

Wow of all the fascist things that my government(UK) does one thing it has not bothered interfering with so far is home-schooling. They did recently propose plans for social services to 'check up' on them to find abuse. That's bad. However If these proposals pass into law then New Hampshire will be officially more intrusive then the British Labour party on this issue.

[HHODork]

civil war in 5....4.....3....2....

[SSILENTNATION]

centuries.  Why don't you stop talking your shit - grab your black powder rifles and tri-cornered hats and go to war in some field somewhere.

[HHODork]

oh man, its you again. I had a dream you were killed on Cable TV and I paid 35 bucks for it on pay per view. And I woke up in such a good mood and everything. Oh well. back to work.

[SSILENTNATION]

Kind of like your civil war. A dream.

[HHODork]

I pray every day that it will never happen but the more and more I look at what our government at the state and federal level are doing to us the more I see it as a matter of time. The last thing I want to see is a war that would harm my kids future as well as my economic standing and split this nation up. If you don't see it coming then you just have your head in the sand.

[SSILENTNATION]

Sorry - could you repeat that - I couldn't hear you, my head was in the sand.

[HHODork]

so I guess you are ok with what the governments are doing to home schoolers all over the US? Home schooling produces the brightest kids in the US and yet they feel some need to regulate them only because they are not pulled into the public education framework quota system.

[SSILENTNATION]

You always guess wrong with me...you must have been homeschooled. And just how did your genius mind conveniently wrap me into your judgment regarding homeschooling? I'm not a cheerleader for public school, but I hardly think teachers are government indoctrinators either - ironically - I WAS homeschooled for a time back in the day. How do you like me now?

[HHODork]

i am just trying to understand why you are going after so many people who are pro home school on this thread. Thats all.

[bob733333]

they want kids in public school so they can be conditioned...it's obvious.

[theronin23]

I grew up in NH and was homeschooled and that was up until 2005. Whether or not it was necessary, we took the IOWA standardized test every year. So I don't see what's wrong with that. And yeah the whole paperwork nazi shit sucks, but we had paperwork nazis when I was being homeschooled too.

[chris3443]

These politicians need to be schooled a couple of times

[mrethrift]

I've got a relative that home schools. It's a lot of work on her part, but it's for the better. There's a certain amount of social sacrifice on the student's part too, but he makes up for it by being involved with sports. School is not the only place a kid can play organized sports.

[davyjames]

Socialisation is only a plus if you are the pouplar kid in school. For every popular kid there is going to be 2 or 3 unpopular ones who will come out of school with less confidence than if they'd never been

[mrethrift]

That is a very interesting point that carries a certain amount of validity. I'll wage to defend a stance I do not necessarily believe in: why send a kid to school based on social benefits? Even the unpopular kid will make a friend or two. Also, even as a highly picked on kid, that kid is more likely to find romance. Here's the reverse: the actual kid in question was prone to picking on others and fighting. He's now a well spirited kid with a lot of "heart". He is known for good moral standing.

[BewareofFlatteries]

@mrethrift That's what I did with my kids when I homeschooled. I brought them to sports, support groups and band so they could make friends. They also went to camp during summer and still talk about the fun they had.

Technical training schools such as Prosser will still allow them to attend so they can learn trade technology too. It's something homeschool parents should look into if the kid shows an interest in computers, aviation, mechanics, nursing, cooking etc. The district has to pay.

[Elinitsam]

Why the heck aren't you promoting silver or gold payment for ad space? Keep using those Rothschild counterfeit notes and watch all your liberty disappear before your eyes! Gold and silver are money, PAPER IS NOT!

[tandyroyal]

I'm a public school alumni. I like the public schools. I respect the right for home schooling, but I do not think it is the best option. thats me though,

[silentthriller]

Take it a step further an unschool your kids. And... Leave them kids alone!

[MEpianist]

Ridley I like your message but stop being such a spazz

[harryogre]

Good stuff Dave!

Love the little Dada Orwell teaser.

Keep up the good work!

[greatestsongsofLIFE]

The only education you need is Elementary. I dont remember ANYTHING past that point in public school. Not Algebra, History, Computer stuff (except how to type fast), ect. I do remember how to Eat and Jog outside (Cafeteria and P.E). I would rather Kids get NO education and sit at home than go to public schools (SHITTTY HORRIBLE SMELLY PLACES!)

[TehBANN3D]

You won't get very far without algebra. Elementary math is primarily arithmetic computing by hand and is completely irrelevant, because engineers (who understoodnd electrodynamics and elementary computer structures [both of which are heavily founded in secondary math]) have invented something called a calculator, which does it all for you.

[TehBANN3D]

understood*

[BewareofFlatteries]

@greatestsongsofLIFE You know, to be honest with you, I don't remember anything from highschool either, except how much I hated it and played hooky, yet still made straight A's. All you have to do is read the book and you'll pass the tests.

[803honda]

government school will teach your children to hate God and engage in state-worship and homosexuality. they will be taught to pray to lincoln and obama.  they will go through life believing that massacusets single-handedley won the first war of secession without any help from New Hampshire or Dixie.

[comradepinko]

It's true. I work at a public school in Massachusetts and we have replaced recess with mandatory homosexual orgy time while we sing satanic chants.

You really nailed us on that one.

[803honda]

thats not completely true. the state sponsored teenage homosexual orgy I saw in boston was during extra-curricular time and was not mandatory but it was pushed on the children very hard. and they usually perfer federal chants more than satanic ones.

[freesk8]

Ridley, you are silly and lovable.

Keep up the good work.

[TheLibertariansUnite]

Just do the same thing I did to the NJEA... Tell the state Education Association to "suck my balls".

They tend not to like that, but do I care?

They try to do all these "good" things but you can just tell them to get out of your way. If the state tries to fire back, then just ignore them.

As long as your kid does well on their college placement tests, the State "regulations" are irrelevant.

[nilesmc]

Standardized tests are designed to evaluate a child's willingness to be controlled, not a child's level of knowledge.

This has been shown by the one and only Peg Luksik in her presentation "Who Controls Our Children" which can be found on utube.

[intrepgun]

@nilesmc thanks much for the 'plug' of that video series. not only was it chock full of great info, but she has physical copies of the documents and handbooks because, as a person personally victimized by the education system, she knows that one of the main concerns of parents worth their salt is who is teaching their children what and why, who is gathering information on their children and why, and they want to see it, and control it.

[nilesmc]

glad to be of service.

John Taylor Gatto is another "must watch".

[RationalDischarge]

I'm so glad to see this fresh batch of Ridleyos, Dave. I was worried you were cutting back. These things are like crack to me, and I always need my fix! ;-)