@joethemoproductions So tell us whats the difference between Atheist& Christian parents teaching their kids? If a Christian teaches his Kids the ways of god its brainwashing but if a Atheist teaches their kids its what? Apply you arguments to your Ideas also!
The difference is that although there is absolutely no evidence for a god, you instill that belief into your children. Most secular humanists I know who have children, teach their children how to think and all then allow them to make their own decisions.
Quite a difference between teaching someone to think, teaching someone reason, and then allowing them to interpret the evidence contrasted to teaching someone to believe something blindly.
The difference is that although there is absolutely no evidence for a god, you instill that belief into your children. Most secular humanists I know who have children, teach their children how to think and all then allow them to make their own decisions.
Quite a difference between teaching someone to think, teaching someone reason, and then allowing them to interpret the evidence contrasted to teaching someone to believe something blindly.
atheism/secular thought dragged christianity kicking and screaming into the enlightenment, without this there would be theocratic rule. Look at Islam, look at the oppression. it isn't so different from christianity in the dark ages. THAT'S what atheism did
Jesus Christ was sent to earth to set the standard for human beings to live by. Call upon him to be your Lord and Savior today and see what HE can do for you. We were created to praise God! And Jesus Christ is the only mediator between mankind and the Heavenly Father Jehovah/Yahway! Pursue his purpose. AMEN
@ejgress36 if this is true why would even want to praise god? he was so insecure he needed to create other living organisms to praise and worship his every command. and if you fail to meet his standards he will punish you by burning in hell for eternity... sounds like a great guy
@natemarauder8 Please don't try and understand an indiscribable and unimaginable Sprirt being like the Heavenly Father. He created everything to glorify him. He created mankind in his own image, but it does not stop there. God gave man the opportunity to express free will. God gave us the option to worship him, which is different from all other creations. When God gave us free will, he took a step back from earth and at that very point chaos has also swept over the earth. Evil= absence of God
@Velvetroomdj That's a good start for an atheist... At least you acknowledge that there is God... As R.Zacharias puts it "You (atheists) know that there is God, you just hate it."
That's like asking "What have non-Santa believers ever done for this world?", it's a stupid question, a loaded question, it's with the presupposition that atheism has to be a religion or something when it's not. The whole idea, is for people like that jerk to realise that non-believe in Santa doesn't entail being a jerk.
This is the biggest shit I've ever heard. "What have atheists [etc.] ever done for this world? Nothing!"
Okay. Religion held the world back from expanding, learning, and freedom for 1000 whole years. If there was an atheist in that room he would tear this shit apart.
@xTriggz well of course there was not an atheist in the room, cause then the atheist could tear him apart, and that ruins the 'validity' of what he said.
By his definition of Secularism and Atheism, all hospitals, schools, charity organizations, churches, etc. were built by atheists. Nothing has ever just appeared. Everything we have made was made by naturalistic means.
The proof of the pudding is in eating it. Not my favorite platitude to say the least.
Who claimed that atheism is the great beneficent helper of man kind?
Brain washed? Yes, your right unlike theism which opportunistically indoctrinates children and preys on the weak and the down trodden--atheism is instead housed in post secondary education. Good example Walter.
Secularism is atheism? I'm sorry you've reached my limit for fallacies. Good day sir.
How many people have the Christian cults killed over the past two thousand years. Witch burnings, Inquisitions. The schools are built so they can brainwash people.
If he wants to claim all the "good" things christianity and religion brought, why not the bad? Oh yeah, because that would go against his low brow preaching. How many wars have started because of faith? How many people have died in "holy wars"? Even if this tool was correct about atheists not helping.. Atleast we never KILLED ANYONE because of their faith. It goes both ways Dr. Walter Martin. I can't stand one-sided stupidity! Funny how these hospitals that x-tians made rely on secular medicine!
One thing athiest's have done for their fellow man is that they have never launched a 200 year war where they killed thousands upon thousands of people in the name of the almighty. Christianity can't make that claim, can it?
how about in the last 100 years? atheists mao, stalin, pol pot, hitler combined all have managed to kill more in the last 100 years (millions of people) than in the so called religious wars of antiquity.
The difference is did Stalin Pol Pot and Hitler kill in the name of lack of belief in a deity (definition of atheism) or because of power like all mass murderers?
BTW Hitler was a roman catholic NOT a atheist.
So atheism is NOT something that they all shared however I know one thing that they, and many other mass murderers, share in common; they all wore boots!!! That's right they wore boots and they killed MILLIONS. So the real evil here is not atheism but boot wearing!
Bull shit atheism has killed more people then all religions combined.
The only thing is they called it communism or the secular state with no God. The killed more then 150 million people so dont play that bull shit cause communism is secular siocialism or atheism.
No athiest's dont need 200 yrs to kill thousands of people. The athiest Stalin killed millions of his people in less than 20 yrs. Please, lets not compare Christian wars to wars started by athiest's.
Your wrong...There has been people who bleieved like you that God was a delusion for thousands of years. They may have kept it to themselves but there were atheists for thousands of years.
Most of the world proclaims and believes in GOD. Yes people! GOD the eternal being who sees all, knows all and created all things.
Oh but wait just a minute! HOLD ON!
We have a NEW and Radical Idea that came about by ACCIDENT? god 1 Mr Darwin and god 2 Madalyn Murry O HAIR says NOPE Your All Wrong. We cant see evidence although they were standing right SMACK in the middle of it. The atheists all say that WE
(GOD LOVERS) the Majority are Insane. They seek to stop US who love Them. ???
Wow you like to ramble huh? Are you talking about biological evolution? You mentioned "Mr Darwin" who first famously proposed that theory, but the rest of the stuff about life being a accident is propaganda. As most people who have a blinding hatred of sciences that disagree with their faith you have no interest in determining what the theories are about, instead you create stawmen around them to inflame others. It sort of backfires when you stop and.... THINK ABOUT IT!
His views are so clouded by his faith that he cant see anything for what it is.
Maybe there wouldnt be as many atheists if there was actually any proof a that a god or gods existed.
the bible was written 100 years after the death of Jesus, who by the way was the biggest manipulator of all time, and many facts were changed (like mary magdalen)
If he wants people to put god to the test... I say... Hello god... hello... oh nothing... please. How long will organized religion and its psuedo leaders take advantage of the ill-educated and emotional??? That's my question. Religion/faith is fine when its perosnal, but when people like this guy step in... it becomes perverse and silly.
This guy has his doctorate? This guy claims to be a christian? He sounds very self-serving, judgemental, and... a bit evil... plus, he's a little silly.
No, but there is something "evil" about being self-serving and judgemental. He doesn't know god... he certainly doesn't know atheism. He knows public speaking and money. Your quote from romans is a bit much... open ended... define evil. Anyone and anything can be CALLED evil... so the passage is meaningless out of context.
The problem here is you don't take a dose of your own medicine. You ask me to define evil and laugh at the thought of only one truth.
If you want to get in a logical debate on relativism that is ok with me. The fact is self-serving and judgemental are two words that are relative. There is only one truth and one good and one evil. You may think someone is self-serving. I may not. I defy you to tell me how there is more than one truth or good/evil. You can't be a little pregnant.
Being pregnant and knowing god are two truths that are not comparable. God is no truth my friend... you take that truth on faith. I can provide the truth of a pregnancy by feeling a baby's kick, getting an ultrasound using a sonogram, & evidence backed by my doctor and case history symptoms. You ask for me to explain how there is more than one good/evil or one truth, well, you yourself mentioned relativism... that's how. If you expect truth to be based on faith alone, relativism is ALL there is.
Wrong. I could give you an endless number of scientific examples that mathmatically eliminate random chance/natural selection. The universe is slowing down to a lower state, not higher. The genes of plants, insects, animals and humans are continually becoming defective, not improving. Species are becoming extinct, not evolving. The only remaining explanation is intelligent design pointing to God. You tell me where the relativism is there.
Incorrect friend. First, even if ur "evidence" was accurate, disproving a scientific theory does not equate to proof for god, god isn't even an hypothesis. Tell me which one of ur disinformed factoids you'd like me to refute and I will... they r ALL poorly drawn conclusions and ALL easily made available on creationist sites. Intelligent design makes no predicitions, it's just a way religion can try to keep god in the big questions in life. I understand you r religious, so I won't even go there.
It sounds like you have all the answers. Id love for you to do a vid. If you do I promise I'll check it out. :) Atheism is a religion too, if defined as a belief in no god...we all "believe" in something. Thanks for the kind words on my chanel.
Well atleast everyone knows Martin is right . Good thing is that Evolution is dying fast. There is so much evidence about Intelligent Design, young earth, world wide catastrophic flood, missing missing links and failure to present any good evidence for evolution. These sceintists are following each others tails thats all. wait till they have too debate Thousands of creationists in front of the whole world on national TV. ITS over. I see creationists winning every debate.
There is no money or control in atheism. Atheist don't group together and collect money and get tax breaks. The churches should pay tax. They get the services what makes them so special. Talking about parasites. 85%+ of scientist are atheist. It wouldn't do much good to start a university and only have it to preach your religion. You can do that on sundays in your tax exempt churches.
If the religious had their way the science that is used in hospitals and taught in Universities wouldn't exist. Science is what opens eyes and allows people to question the bible. The bible is just a reflection of human culture at the time it was written. The religious are the parasites. Sucking tax dollars and changing laws to benefit their religions or their tv shows, 700 club. If atheist could suck money out of people and governments the way religions do we would open hospitals and schools.
Ahh I am a parasite am I? Zeig heil much? Love the bigotry and the brainwash. I can't put your deity to the test because he doesn't exist. I have read your sacred text and found that, between the lines it's a book of hatred and intolerance. A book that has lead to the bloodiest of wars, the most hate-filled people, and the most ignorant people. I did give your Bible a try, but that was before I actually read it, when I was another brainwashed child lost in the words of another ignoramus.
Hummm, I wonder. All chruches and religions in this country can raise all the funds they can and not be tax liable. Atheists, agnostics and skeptics don't have that luxury. Then he wonders why we have not built any schools and hospitals. To call us good, great and wonderful people as "Paracites" is clear hate speech on his part. I wonder, how long did he stand in a mirror saying this about us. That must be one of the very few ways that he gets excited and worked up.
another of your utterly pathetic comebacks. why not deal with the fact that having posted this hateful filth you can't string a sentence together of your own to defend it.
shame on you and shame on that raving hatemongering wretch you idolise.
tell mewhere I can see "Dr" martins thesis? have you read it? know anyone who has? the "college" he claims issued it refuses to discuss it. instead we have some bull from martin that he did the "research" at NY and then relocated to california where the "acme advanced institute of applied christology" or some such "institute" gave the degree. his doctorate is as convincing as his hair and you are a gullible hateful fool.
I object to it, not hate- you're the hater here- for the same reason I object to any bigotry; because it is wrong. morally wrong. I find spewing such vulgar lies to be unsconscionable. you, at some stage in your life might, like 99.9999% of humanity, have known this without needing to ask. the fact that it's not obvious to you now is a condemnation of this awful cult to which you've surrendered your decency.
He has not told one lie. Id like to comment on your issue with his doctorate. It actually is irrelevant. A real degree, but irrelevant. Dr. Martin is speaking the word of God. He is giving God's opinion. I could tell you the same thing without an opinion and it would still be the word of God. There is only one absolute truth, and it does not depend on a degree to make it so.
they are built by the governmetn and by the nature of the constitution not acknowledging any religion there in they are "secular" they were not created by a secular group of people.
the US constitution is unimportant. this vulgar little man is slandering ALL atheists- including those among the 96% of humanity that don't live in the US.
What a hatemongering scumabg this man is. I would wager a guess that he has as much hate for homosexuals as he does for the unbelievers. How about Susan B Anthony. That is just one of many examples what atheists, agnostics and skeptics have done to make our world a better place.
I love atheists but our schools are not as they should be. GOD must be put at the top of Americas list fast or we are headed to the rule of anti-christ at the Speed of Light. Obama will bring this economy into chaos and Islam will slip right in under his nose and kick our buts or maybe eliminate us. WHy? Because Obama dont care about Israel wich is the center of Gods attention and America was blessed for awhile when we supported them. God help us
However if you go with what Atheists DO believe one would notice that equal rights are common theme.If you want to know what most atheists in the US believe check out "secular humanism".Secularists have erected
Universities, Social programs to help the poor.They are often for equal rights for all, free inquiry, personal responsibility.People simple do not call non-religious organizations as "atheist organizations".This man has only played with terms to make it seem as if he had a valid argument
This man is entirely dishonest. Atheism isn't a believe system so it doesn't promote any particular action. That is why he can say atheim never did X. However that doesn't say what atheists DO believe and how that has effected the world around them. I would also like to point out that "structuralist" does not always mean "atheist". The Constitution is a secular document. It does not promote or deny God. It simply does into account take it into account.
Truth? Look at the world around you. Not everyone is going to be like you, and not everyone wants to be like you. 2+2=4, Jesus born from a virgin? Unlikely
Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, Whatever... Are they going to heaven? If you say no, then there is a problem with your so called truth buddy.
Are they going to heaven? If you say no, then there is a problem with your so called truth buddy.
There can only be one absolute truth. If Christianity(Jesus) says its the the cure for sin and is salvation, then the others cant be true also. So Can you see the comparison now?
I see your rhetorical skills have not improved. let's try asking for the 65th time.
why are atheists parasites. I've seen every childish evasion imaginable and still you can't answer. think, fool, THINK try to form a coherent answer. you owe it to the millions you insult with this filth.
"Why do you care so much anyways?" because sparky, contrary to your claim that he was adressing christians he yells from the start- "I wanna address this to atheists" we should sit mute as your hero lies?
hell on earth is real- the real hell is living delusions and lies and being incapable of dealing with reality without a security blanket and imaginary friends. inasmuch as there is a hell- you are in it.
I just had a banana split! Yum. Doesn't seem like hell to me here on earth. I gues you don't know the definition of hell. NO Pleasure, NONE can exist there.
so calling millions of people of whom he knows nothing "parasites" isn't hate speech? If he were referring to jews or christians or blacks he would be arrested in many countries. but it's ok because the targets for the abuse are atheists? sorry, it's not ok and if you think it is then you haven't thought enough.
Calling someone a parasite does not mean hate. It simply means something is living off of another. You don't have to hate someone/something to point out the fact that someone/something lives off of another.
no sparky. the tongue tied imbecile who posted this filth tried this tack too. didn't work for him either.
standing up and refusing to bow down to vile abuse is not hate. it's self respect.
I've listed some of the most important figures in human century thought. their work has radically and positively affected all our lives. none was/is a parasite. you think otherwise because your morals have been warped by this hateful cult.
"dr" martin's phd was as real as his hair. he was a liar too
your operating system was designed by an atheist- PC? gates is an atheist, MAC? wozniak is an atheist, the computer you use was dreamed up by an atheist-turing- without whom you might be living under nazism as he also broke the enigma code and won WW2. the structure of your DNA was found by 2 atheists. the biggest philanthropist alive is an atheis- buffet so is the second- gates
and you call them all parasites since they don't share your belief in the truth of some folk tales. you ARE in hell
Mega, Unless you can show them to be parasites it is fair to say that you had emotive reasons for calling atheists parasites. Fundamentalist Christians can more accurate be described as parasites than atheists. Fundamentalist Christians use things that required science make them. ie. microwaves,computers,heart monitors,hospitals .etc while also pretending science is evil. The live off of the work of others while condemning those same people to hell.What is your argument?
I have been trying for several months to get the clown who posted this video to account for spreading hate speech and when confronted with his own actions he becomes like a toungue tied toddler- wedded to this pathetic slogan that if you don't believe in an imaginary friend then you can't make moral judgements.
Hey, megawolf. Did anyone take you up on your challenge? I never heard of this type of challenge before. Very interesting I might add. My fear is Satan may be content to not reveal anything and just let them stay as atheists. Or worse. What if something horrible happens? Then denying the supernatural would not be an issue, but something terrible could happen. The fact no one is taking the challenge makes me think people are afraid of something. Could prove something, but at what price?
No one took the challenge. It seems atheists are afraid to take it. I know the possiblity that something really horrible could happen if one took it. Thats my point. It would be my hope that somethong bad WOULD happen and the only cure would be Jesus. I know that sounds bad, but athiests are on the path to hell anyway. Better for one to experience a taste of hell on earth and later come to Christ rather then experience hell for eternity.
You are right. I would hope it would not take something so extreme, but if they find the Lord that way it would be worth it. I know people who have been involved with actual diabolical possession. Not the assembly line stuff on TV. The real thing. My pastor said without the Lord you would wet yourself and faint. Or have a heart attack. "Greater is He who is in us than he who is in the world." Peace Brother.
asked on this thread more than once. I wondered if the challenge was to listen to "dr" martin for more than 3 minutes straight without being sick in your mouth.
I do not believe that was the challenge. Apparently you guy's were all in a heated argument. Megawolf7, was saying that an atheist should get involved in Satanism or the occult, in order to prove the supernatural. I was telling him I did not think it was such a good idea. Although, the premise is interesting, it could do more harm than good.
if so then megawolf should grow up. atheists in general are too busy leading productive, happy lives, raising families and getting on with being here to bother with redundant superstitious nonsense like satanism or any other religion.
Every time you leave comments such as yours you prove why you are a parasite! Hate-filled is a great description of your comments. You should open up your ears and listen to Walter Martin, he explains it beautifully. Why do you want me to repeat what he says all the time? Why does this subject bother you so much? Why should it? Cant people have their opinions? Or should people have just an Atheistic view?
Better for one to experience a taste of hell on earth.....
Hell on earth is the state of mind that causes grown adults like yourself to babble like children about your invisible friends and their superhero powers.
Take a look at your comments to this channel! Your everything that your preaching about. Why is it that atheists can use arguments against Christians but that same argument is not valid or able to be use against them?
I think you ought to know that the VAST majority of christians would find this kind of seething incoherent hatred disgusting in the extreme. as Ive said your religion has robbed you of the capacity to behave decently or to tell right from wrong. martin is very very wrong he explains nothing beauifuly because like you his mind is demented with hate for those who dont share his beliefs. I have no such hatred for those who think differenly to me. in this you and I differ. you should be ashamed.
Your bias is so evident that you even disregard the facts that are presented and unwillingly to address the question he pose about atheism - instead of taking this personally
what on earth are you talking about? what facts? martin presents no facts only his bitter seething hatred of those who don't share his abusrd beliefs. to call millions of people PARASITES and present not a shred of evidence to sustain the charge is nothing more than vulgar hate speech.
you don;t understand what bias is. do you have to hold every position at the same time in order not to be biased?
this is vulgar uneducated bigotry at its worst. and the person spreading it should be ashamed.
I don't need a barking mad person telling me that their delusion is real without evidence. As if that would be an argument for anything. Keep your delusion for yourself.
From my perspective you are the one who is delusional. To me you are the one who is lacking in logic and thinking. Like I said, Its all a matter of time for you. Just keep living until the end.
Yes I'm delusional because I don't believe in a supernatural, brutal, bronze age myth with absolutely no evidence for it (a.k.a big sky daddy, a.k.a big brother).
By that definition you'd be delusional to for not believing in allah. So no matter how you turn it. You're delusional.
You said theres no evidence for the supernatural. Guess you haven't been at the right place at the right time. Look for it and you'll find it.
Go conjure up demonic forces and see what happens. They don't exist right? Shoudn't be a problem then. There's no devil right? Go get involved with Satanism and see. Go buy books and summon spirits and see what happens. The supernatural is not real so it will be easy to disprove me right? I'm serious, take my challange, go look for it and see.
Yes I know and if I have "faith" in santa claus he'd be real for me to. Still doesn't change the fact that he only exists in my fantasy because I want him to.
Never underestimate the human brains ability to delude. Just go have a stroll through a lunatic asylum.
Did I mention faith? I want you to summon the spirits WITHOUT faith. I challange you to get involved with Demonology, Pagan Mysticsm, Witchcraft, Luciferianism, Black Magick. I want you to chuckle with hubris when you do it.
Then you will be at the right place at the right time. The devil is only a fantasy right? Isn't he? So what is there to lose or be afraid of? Nothing right? I challange you to become immersed into demonic spirituality WITHOUT a shred of faith. Lets see what happens.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A subjective notion of the transcendent which I can also achieve by looking into the hubble deep field is hardly compelling enough to prove the existance of : god, jesus, hell, fairies, goblins, elfs, pink unicorns, FSM ...etc. Because lets face it. If the supernatural exists all of its forms are equally likely.
You're DODGING my challange. Athiests ALWAYS say the burden of proof lies on the beliver in the supernatural. Here is your chance to get the proof or dismiss it as folly! I SIMPLY ask you to get involved with Luciferianism and Witchcraft. And do it with the UPMOST skeptism which will be easy for you. Do it for fun! Do it to see the silly superstious people do their stupid rituals! Get inloved with a local coven. I'll help you. If I find a coven local to your area will you do it?
I already had transcendent moments and to me they are part of our evolutionary makeup as a emotional species.
"Athiests ALWAYS say the burden of proof lies on the beliver in the supernatural."
Subjective feelings/beliefs aren't evidence. We could all believe in the FSM it however doesn't make him real. When we atheists talk about evidence it's either empirical or mathematical and you can't provide neither.
You STILL dodge the challange. Who said anything about "transcendent moments"? Or "Subjective Feelings"? What scientist makes his conclusions BEFORE even doing the experiment? YOU'RE MAKING EXCUSES.
Empirical evidence can't be provided? You haven't even joined the coven yet! I'll even pay for the book you need to get started! Just give me a P.O. Box # in my inbox and I'll send you one. You don't even have to tell me your name. Please take my challange. Will you become involved with Lucifer?
What is it about evidence that you don't understand? No matter how convinced (deluded) I would become it still wouldn't be evidence. It still wouldn't be real!
You ASSUME it wouldn't be real. Anyone can say: "but it still won't be real!" Back that statement up with some tests. I will provide you with the proper material. And then you can invite Lucifer to come into you. Is Santa Clause real? Of course not! If you invited Santa into your body then there should be NO SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCES because Santa does not exist. Right? So pray to Lucifer (who isn't there) and invite him into your body. Do it every night for a month. See what happens. Will ya?
I'm trying to figure out how any sentient being on the face of the planet can listen to someone scream the most vile hateful abuse at literally tens of millions of people of whom "dr" martin knows precisely nothing and think it's ok. maybe in your warped immoral universe....you're welcome to it, sounds hellish to me.
1) If that hate spewing person is in heaven I seriouly question the morality of "your" God
don't worry. Wally's not in heaven- his wig is though. sitting at the right hand of the father right next to his fake ph.d that he lied about.
what a hateful pig ignorant piece of shit. and the sad tongue tied clown who posted it is no better. I've asked dozens of times if he can justify the notion that atheists are parasites and all I get is pathetic babble like "telling it like it is". poor fool.
All do respect respect McMonster65. You are telling me non-religious folk are more peaceful. Well, you sound very angry and you seem to be hating me. Excuse me sir, I belive I have only been polite. It really is up to the individual as to wether or not he wishes to be good. I don't blame atheism or theism for what has gone wrong with the world. I just blame people. There are "Chrisitans"who are evil, but are not Christians since they don't really follow Christ. I am, since I am peaceful.Godpeed
I don't hate anyone, I have listened to enough hate speech from walter martin and his ilk to make me puke.
I am angered that having posted this offensive tripe GQathlete can't string two sentences of his own to justify the hate speech in the video. I am angered because 1) I am an atheist 2) I am not a parasite.
If vile hate speech doesn't anger you then why? are we supposed to sit mute at the back of the bus while a pig ignorant lying bigot calls us parasites. I think it's time to stand up.
Please care to write back to me Mcmonster65. It seems as though I have threatened someone in your family.You seem VERY MAD at me personally.Chances are you are an ethical, fine man.You say you have no religion and yet you take what seems to be very personal offense to people who hate atheism. Why would it bother you if you don't beleieve in moral absolutes? Like I said, I just get angry when people who blame evrything on religion don't even realize the Atheist philosophy killed over 100 million
Well enjoy your anger. I think you are wrong. Both stalin and mao elevated the state to the position of a deity. and in pursuit of that power millions were killed. certainly not in pusit of atheism. GQ, our dimwitted toungue tied host, can't quite grasp that hitler wasn't an atheist. his followers certainly numbered many many christians- it was an overwhelmingly christian country.
I'm amused that your grasp on life is so tenuous that you find it odd that I find "dr" martin offensive.
@McMonster65 your a typical athiest,,people like u are the reason i beleive in god.
uwique 2 days ago
I can't believe how much projection christians employ: children are brainwashed into believing christian myth.
joethemoproductions 5 days ago
@joethemoproductions So tell us whats the difference between Atheist& Christian parents teaching their kids? If a Christian teaches his Kids the ways of god its brainwashing but if a Atheist teaches their kids its what? Apply you arguments to your Ideas also!
gqathlete 2 days ago
@gqathlete
The difference is that although there is absolutely no evidence for a god, you instill that belief into your children. Most secular humanists I know who have children, teach their children how to think and all then allow them to make their own decisions.
Quite a difference between teaching someone to think, teaching someone reason, and then allowing them to interpret the evidence contrasted to teaching someone to believe something blindly.
joethemoproductions 1 day ago
@joethemoproductions so what do u call it when u teach them atheism?
uwique 2 days ago
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@uwique
The difference is that although there is absolutely no evidence for a god, you instill that belief into your children. Most secular humanists I know who have children, teach their children how to think and all then allow them to make their own decisions.
Quite a difference between teaching someone to think, teaching someone reason, and then allowing them to interpret the evidence contrasted to teaching someone to believe something blindly.
joethemoproductions 1 day ago
athiests like to force their way on us.
uwique 3 weeks ago
@uwique Yes they do and their not willing to apply their own argument to there own Ideas !
gqathlete 2 days ago
@gqathlete they like to force their way and accuse the beleiver for the very same thing..madalyn murray ohare is a prime example.
uwique 2 days ago
atheism/secular thought dragged christianity kicking and screaming into the enlightenment, without this there would be theocratic rule. Look at Islam, look at the oppression. it isn't so different from christianity in the dark ages. THAT'S what atheism did
mimura47 1 month ago
@mimura47 "atheism/secular thought," What does atheism have to do with thinking? What have they thought about? I am the enlightenment.
StarApostle 4 weeks ago
@mimura47 Look at Hitler and Stalin!!! Thats what Atheism did!!!
gqathlete 2 days ago
Jesus Christ was sent to earth to set the standard for human beings to live by. Call upon him to be your Lord and Savior today and see what HE can do for you. We were created to praise God! And Jesus Christ is the only mediator between mankind and the Heavenly Father Jehovah/Yahway! Pursue his purpose. AMEN
ejgress36 2 months ago
@ejgress36 if this is true why would even want to praise god? he was so insecure he needed to create other living organisms to praise and worship his every command. and if you fail to meet his standards he will punish you by burning in hell for eternity... sounds like a great guy
natemarauder8 2 months ago
@natemarauder8 Please don't try and understand an indiscribable and unimaginable Sprirt being like the Heavenly Father. He created everything to glorify him. He created mankind in his own image, but it does not stop there. God gave man the opportunity to express free will. God gave us the option to worship him, which is different from all other creations. When God gave us free will, he took a step back from earth and at that very point chaos has also swept over the earth. Evil= absence of God
ejgress36 2 months ago
@natemarauder8 Look at our Justice system, you want laws dont you and if you break them what happens?
gqathlete 2 days ago
@ejgress36 “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?" -Epicurus
Reflect on that for moment
mimura47 1 month ago
@mimura47 God gave you a will to follow or not! with out your will your a mindless robot!
God would have to destroy all of us to have prefection or take our will away! Reflect on that for moment
gqathlete 2 days ago
more christian hated of all but themselves.
no1saphead 3 months ago
How sad. This man knows nothing but lies. What a narrow mindset. Science is secular and it has given us more than any "christian" could ever give!
ruthm1978 4 months ago
Yeah I put god "... on test".
Knowing how much suffering He have caused in this world with natural disasters, hunger, disease, etc... I'd give gaddamn God an F+
Velvetroomdj 5 months ago
@Velvetroomdj That's a good start for an atheist... At least you acknowledge that there is God... As R.Zacharias puts it "You (atheists) know that there is God, you just hate it."
gatsbyfaulkner 5 months ago
@gatsbyfaulkner
"If" there really was a God, do you think He or She would command us humans to KILL our disobedient kids?
Kill for working on His day of Sabbath?
Stone to death to women wo are not virgins on their wedding night?
Put to death for being gay that He or She created?
Demand KILLING for believing in other God(s)?
Will you at least READ the bible before you believe in what you believe in?
Velvetroomdj 5 months ago
@gatsbyfaulkner
As R.Zacharias puts it "You (atheists) know that there is God, you just hate it."
a perfect example of the vacuous stupidity of Ravi Zacharias- liar for jesus #4535659
mcmanustony 4 months ago
"What have atheists ever done for this world?"
That's like asking "What have non-Santa believers ever done for this world?", it's a stupid question, a loaded question, it's with the presupposition that atheism has to be a religion or something when it's not. The whole idea, is for people like that jerk to realise that non-believe in Santa doesn't entail being a jerk.
DesiFreethinkers 8 months ago
This is the biggest shit I've ever heard. "What have atheists [etc.] ever done for this world? Nothing!"
Okay. Religion held the world back from expanding, learning, and freedom for 1000 whole years. If there was an atheist in that room he would tear this shit apart.
xTriggz 9 months ago 2
@xTriggz well of course there was not an atheist in the room, cause then the atheist could tear him apart, and that ruins the 'validity' of what he said.
Mrarrypotter 9 months ago
@Mrarrypotter Disgusting.
xTriggz 9 months ago
@xTriggz athiests have nothing to bring to the table.
uwique 2 days ago
By his definition of Secularism and Atheism, all hospitals, schools, charity organizations, churches, etc. were built by atheists. Nothing has ever just appeared. Everything we have made was made by naturalistic means.
shadywolf91 11 months ago 2
The proof of the pudding is in eating it. Not my favorite platitude to say the least.
Who claimed that atheism is the great beneficent helper of man kind?
Brain washed? Yes, your right unlike theism which opportunistically indoctrinates children and preys on the weak and the down trodden--atheism is instead housed in post secondary education. Good example Walter.
Secularism is atheism? I'm sorry you've reached my limit for fallacies. Good day sir.
dookiecheez 1 year ago 2
LOL @ Dr. Walter
Ravenoustoxic 1 year ago
Fuck of.
Sweden is one of the least religious countries in the world 20% say they believe in a god. Still it's one of the best countries in the world.
kalleilund 1 year ago
He asks "How many seminaries have atheists built?"
punnet2 1 year ago
Edmund Burke once described atheists as an unenterprising race
khightshospitaller 1 year ago
How many people have the Christian cults killed over the past two thousand years. Witch burnings, Inquisitions. The schools are built so they can brainwash people.
Maber01 1 year ago
@Maber01 Edmund Burke once described atheists as an unenterprising race
khightshospitaller 1 year ago
85 % of Sweden are athiests and we got the best hospitals in the world, lowest deathrate for children,free healthcare,dentist and school.
We are also at the top when it comes to quality of charity and human rights in the world.
Now , how can christians talk against athiesm and secularism?
Xmuxxue 1 year ago 2
exactly...on the dot..thank you
jackthewhak 2 years ago
how much higher are our taxes since churches don't pay property tax and pastors can omit any pay they get for housing form their 1040
ghawkins46 2 years ago
If he wants to claim all the "good" things christianity and religion brought, why not the bad? Oh yeah, because that would go against his low brow preaching. How many wars have started because of faith? How many people have died in "holy wars"? Even if this tool was correct about atheists not helping.. Atleast we never KILLED ANYONE because of their faith. It goes both ways Dr. Walter Martin. I can't stand one-sided stupidity! Funny how these hospitals that x-tians made rely on secular medicine!
mrsalmon1984 2 years ago
Awesome. And this message was given more than 20 years ago.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
Ya its pretty hated by them as you can tell by the comments!
gqathlete 2 years ago
One thing athiest's have done for their fellow man is that they have never launched a 200 year war where they killed thousands upon thousands of people in the name of the almighty. Christianity can't make that claim, can it?
coolhandluke94 2 years ago
how about in the last 100 years? atheists mao, stalin, pol pot, hitler combined all have managed to kill more in the last 100 years (millions of people) than in the so called religious wars of antiquity.
emiliman101 2 years ago
The difference is did Stalin Pol Pot and Hitler kill in the name of lack of belief in a deity (definition of atheism) or because of power like all mass murderers?
BTW Hitler was a roman catholic NOT a atheist.
So atheism is NOT something that they all shared however I know one thing that they, and many other mass murderers, share in common; they all wore boots!!! That's right they wore boots and they killed MILLIONS. So the real evil here is not atheism but boot wearing!
madzyzome 2 years ago
Bull shit atheism has killed more people then all religions combined.
The only thing is they called it communism or the secular state with no God. The killed more then 150 million people so dont play that bull shit cause communism is secular siocialism or atheism.
tvshowclassics 2 years ago
No athiest's dont need 200 yrs to kill thousands of people. The athiest Stalin killed millions of his people in less than 20 yrs. Please, lets not compare Christian wars to wars started by athiest's.
prettycow25 2 years ago
Your wrong...There has been people who bleieved like you that God was a delusion for thousands of years. They may have kept it to themselves but there were atheists for thousands of years.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
This guy is fucking stupid!
"how many built in the last 2000 years"?
Atheism have only been around for about 200 years, fucking moron!
Hjernespreng 2 years ago
Atheism has been around far longer, just back then it was suicide to pronounce yourself as an atheist.
spadar 2 years ago
@spadar, there were no atheists in ancient history. Atheism is a modern invention and delusion.
Apologist117 2 years ago
@Apologist117 That's because the church hanged them on the gallows
supernovasnake 1 year ago
so what if im an atheist am i not a human? who siad anything about me not following laws who says i do not love and yes hate!!
hate your ignornce and out right lies!!
nezahualcoyotl85 2 years ago
Most of the world proclaims and believes in GOD. Yes people! GOD the eternal being who sees all, knows all and created all things.
Oh but wait just a minute! HOLD ON!
We have a NEW and Radical Idea that came about by ACCIDENT? god 1 Mr Darwin and god 2 Madalyn Murry O HAIR says NOPE Your All Wrong. We cant see evidence although they were standing right SMACK in the middle of it. The atheists all say that WE
(GOD LOVERS) the Majority are Insane. They seek to stop US who love Them. ???
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
so what if im an atheist am i not a human? who siad anything about me not following laws who says i do not love and yes hate!!
hate your ignornce and out right lies!!
most people have faith in maney gods
and the universe is random as can be!!
although evolution is not completly random it is partly natural selection wich is cause and effect
nezahualcoyotl85 2 years ago
Wow you like to ramble huh? Are you talking about biological evolution? You mentioned "Mr Darwin" who first famously proposed that theory, but the rest of the stuff about life being a accident is propaganda. As most people who have a blinding hatred of sciences that disagree with their faith you have no interest in determining what the theories are about, instead you create stawmen around them to inflame others. It sort of backfires when you stop and.... THINK ABOUT IT!
madzyzome 2 years ago
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NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
This guy is a joke.
His views are so clouded by his faith that he cant see anything for what it is.
Maybe there wouldnt be as many atheists if there was actually any proof a that a god or gods existed.
the bible was written 100 years after the death of Jesus, who by the way was the biggest manipulator of all time, and many facts were changed (like mary magdalen)
Upinsmoke1987 2 years ago
This guy is creepy.
If he wants people to put god to the test... I say... Hello god... hello... oh nothing... please. How long will organized religion and its psuedo leaders take advantage of the ill-educated and emotional??? That's my question. Religion/faith is fine when its perosnal, but when people like this guy step in... it becomes perverse and silly.
kfherrmann 2 years ago
This guy has his doctorate? This guy claims to be a christian? He sounds very self-serving, judgemental, and... a bit evil... plus, he's a little silly.
kfherrmann 2 years ago
So wrong about him...research him more. There is nothing evil about being passionate about the Bible.
Abhor that which is evil; hold to that which is good. Romans 12:9
kenandjasha 2 years ago
No, but there is something "evil" about being self-serving and judgemental. He doesn't know god... he certainly doesn't know atheism. He knows public speaking and money. Your quote from romans is a bit much... open ended... define evil. Anyone and anything can be CALLED evil... so the passage is meaningless out of context.
kfherrmann 2 years ago
The problem here is you don't take a dose of your own medicine. You ask me to define evil and laugh at the thought of only one truth.
If you want to get in a logical debate on relativism that is ok with me. The fact is self-serving and judgemental are two words that are relative. There is only one truth and one good and one evil. You may think someone is self-serving. I may not. I defy you to tell me how there is more than one truth or good/evil. You can't be a little pregnant.
kenandjasha 2 years ago
Being pregnant and knowing god are two truths that are not comparable. God is no truth my friend... you take that truth on faith. I can provide the truth of a pregnancy by feeling a baby's kick, getting an ultrasound using a sonogram, & evidence backed by my doctor and case history symptoms. You ask for me to explain how there is more than one good/evil or one truth, well, you yourself mentioned relativism... that's how. If you expect truth to be based on faith alone, relativism is ALL there is.
kfherrmann 2 years ago
Wrong. I could give you an endless number of scientific examples that mathmatically eliminate random chance/natural selection. The universe is slowing down to a lower state, not higher. The genes of plants, insects, animals and humans are continually becoming defective, not improving. Species are becoming extinct, not evolving. The only remaining explanation is intelligent design pointing to God. You tell me where the relativism is there.
kenandjasha 2 years ago
Incorrect friend. First, even if ur "evidence" was accurate, disproving a scientific theory does not equate to proof for god, god isn't even an hypothesis. Tell me which one of ur disinformed factoids you'd like me to refute and I will... they r ALL poorly drawn conclusions and ALL easily made available on creationist sites. Intelligent design makes no predicitions, it's just a way religion can try to keep god in the big questions in life. I understand you r religious, so I won't even go there.
kfherrmann 2 years ago
It sounds like you have all the answers. Id love for you to do a vid. If you do I promise I'll check it out. :) Atheism is a religion too, if defined as a belief in no god...we all "believe" in something. Thanks for the kind words on my chanel.
Ken
kenandjasha 2 years ago
DR. Walter Martin
DR. Kent Hovind
DR. Ravi Zacharias
DR. Chuck missler
DR. Ergun caner
DR. Anis Shorrosh
DR. Walid Shoebat
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
Well atleast everyone knows Martin is right . Good thing is that Evolution is dying fast. There is so much evidence about Intelligent Design, young earth, world wide catastrophic flood, missing missing links and failure to present any good evidence for evolution. These sceintists are following each others tails thats all. wait till they have too debate Thousands of creationists in front of the whole world on national TV. ITS over. I see creationists winning every debate.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
There is no money or control in atheism. Atheist don't group together and collect money and get tax breaks. The churches should pay tax. They get the services what makes them so special. Talking about parasites. 85%+ of scientist are atheist. It wouldn't do much good to start a university and only have it to preach your religion. You can do that on sundays in your tax exempt churches.
kingmike40 2 years ago
If the religious had their way the science that is used in hospitals and taught in Universities wouldn't exist. Science is what opens eyes and allows people to question the bible. The bible is just a reflection of human culture at the time it was written. The religious are the parasites. Sucking tax dollars and changing laws to benefit their religions or their tv shows, 700 club. If atheist could suck money out of people and governments the way religions do we would open hospitals and schools.
kingmike40 2 years ago
So True.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
Ahh I am a parasite am I? Zeig heil much? Love the bigotry and the brainwash. I can't put your deity to the test because he doesn't exist. I have read your sacred text and found that, between the lines it's a book of hatred and intolerance. A book that has lead to the bloodiest of wars, the most hate-filled people, and the most ignorant people. I did give your Bible a try, but that was before I actually read it, when I was another brainwashed child lost in the words of another ignoramus.
crueltyinc 3 years ago
If you educate a thief, you increase his capacity to steal. LOL!!! Love it.
erylone 3 years ago
a happy festive season to the christian hate community from the civilised world.
McMonster65 3 years ago
I hope your Christmas and the New Year go well for you! God Bless!
gqathlete 3 years ago
Hummm, I wonder. All chruches and religions in this country can raise all the funds they can and not be tax liable. Atheists, agnostics and skeptics don't have that luxury. Then he wonders why we have not built any schools and hospitals. To call us good, great and wonderful people as "Paracites" is clear hate speech on his part. I wonder, how long did he stand in a mirror saying this about us. That must be one of the very few ways that he gets excited and worked up.
junk007stock 3 years ago 4
I guess this cock head never heard of public schools and public hospitals. They are ALL secularist.
Crosisborg 3 years ago 16
Crosisborg,it hurts cause it feels like he talking about you!!!! Look at your vids! A great example of what Dr. Walter Martin is talking about!
gqathlete 3 years ago
another of your utterly pathetic comebacks. why not deal with the fact that having posted this hateful filth you can't string a sentence together of your own to defend it.
shame on you and shame on that raving hatemongering wretch you idolise.
McMonster65 3 years ago
tell mewhere I can see "Dr" martins thesis? have you read it? know anyone who has? the "college" he claims issued it refuses to discuss it. instead we have some bull from martin that he did the "research" at NY and then relocated to california where the "acme advanced institute of applied christology" or some such "institute" gave the degree. his doctorate is as convincing as his hair and you are a gullible hateful fool.
McMonster65 3 years ago 2
Why do you hate this so much???
gqathlete 3 years ago
I object to it, not hate- you're the hater here- for the same reason I object to any bigotry; because it is wrong. morally wrong. I find spewing such vulgar lies to be unsconscionable. you, at some stage in your life might, like 99.9999% of humanity, have known this without needing to ask. the fact that it's not obvious to you now is a condemnation of this awful cult to which you've surrendered your decency.
McMonster65 3 years ago
He has not told one lie. Id like to comment on your issue with his doctorate. It actually is irrelevant. A real degree, but irrelevant. Dr. Martin is speaking the word of God. He is giving God's opinion. I could tell you the same thing without an opinion and it would still be the word of God. There is only one absolute truth, and it does not depend on a degree to make it so.
kenandjasha 2 years ago
Absolute truth? Ok. Nice talking to you.
kfherrmann 2 years ago
That concept must be beyond your thought capacity huh?
kenandjasha 2 years ago
Not really. I just find certain types of people not worth engaging... but if we can talk calmly, I am open to discussion.
kfherrmann 2 years ago
they are built by the governmetn and by the nature of the constitution not acknowledging any religion there in they are "secular" they were not created by a secular group of people.
Nephilim145 3 years ago
the US constitution is unimportant. this vulgar little man is slandering ALL atheists- including those among the 96% of humanity that don't live in the US.
McMonster65 3 years ago
@McMonster65 vulgar??yeah ok!!..i heard nothing vulgar.
uwique 2 days ago
What a hatemongering scumabg this man is. I would wager a guess that he has as much hate for homosexuals as he does for the unbelievers. How about Susan B Anthony. That is just one of many examples what atheists, agnostics and skeptics have done to make our world a better place.
junk007stock 3 years ago 12
@junk007stock
EVERYONE HATES HOMOSEXUALS ANYWAY ROFLLL
MadManCael 1 year ago
@junk007stock EVERYONE HATES HOMOSEXUALS ANYWAY ROFLLL
MadManCael 1 year ago
One of the most needed information in OUR AGE!
I love atheists but our schools are not as they should be. GOD must be put at the top of Americas list fast or we are headed to the rule of anti-christ at the Speed of Light. Obama will bring this economy into chaos and Islam will slip right in under his nose and kick our buts or maybe eliminate us. WHy? Because Obama dont care about Israel wich is the center of Gods attention and America was blessed for awhile when we supported them. God help us
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 3 years ago
What a jerk.
ZeppelinRocker16 3 years ago
Walter was awesome.
GreekOrthodoxy 3 years ago
He knows nothing. He says in this video to put god to the test. Hmm I seem to recall thats strictly forbidden in the bible.
Crosisborg 3 years ago 4
"Why not try what God has to say" (3:33)
Most excellent advice!
Only problem is...
most folks are too angry and scared to give God His fair say.................a sad waste of life!!
freeborneman 3 years ago
It's 'atheist', not 'athiest' as it says at the beginning of this video.
Wow, this guy talks absolute fucking shite.
geffel 3 years ago
However if you go with what Atheists DO believe one would notice that equal rights are common theme.If you want to know what most atheists in the US believe check out "secular humanism".Secularists have erected
Universities, Social programs to help the poor.They are often for equal rights for all, free inquiry, personal responsibility.People simple do not call non-religious organizations as "atheist organizations".This man has only played with terms to make it seem as if he had a valid argument
neonmagek 3 years ago
This man is entirely dishonest. Atheism isn't a believe system so it doesn't promote any particular action. That is why he can say atheim never did X. However that doesn't say what atheists DO believe and how that has effected the world around them. I would also like to point out that "structuralist" does not always mean "atheist". The Constitution is a secular document. It does not promote or deny God. It simply does into account take it into account.
neonmagek 3 years ago
Einstein quote:
"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions," he said.
Philos2006 3 years ago
Brainwashing with atheism... I love how this numb nuts relates brainwashing with atheism. oxymoron
AgnosticGuy85 3 years ago 4
GQathlete, have you ever taken it from the receiving end?
talk85 3 years ago
Can't Handle the truth? Why do you care so much anyways?
gqathlete 3 years ago
Truth? Look at the world around you. Not everyone is going to be like you, and not everyone wants to be like you. 2+2=4, Jesus born from a virgin? Unlikely
talk85 3 years ago
A Universe from where????
gqathlete 3 years ago
Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, Whatever... Are they going to heaven? If you say no, then there is a problem with your so called truth buddy.
talk85 3 years ago 3
If a doctor told you there is one way to cure a disease, would you say no way buddy I have a problem with that?
gqathlete 3 years ago
How does that have anything to do with theology?
talk85 3 years ago 2
I thought you might of seen the comparison!
Are they going to heaven? If you say no, then there is a problem with your so called truth buddy.
There can only be one absolute truth. If Christianity(Jesus) says its the the cure for sin and is salvation, then the others cant be true also. So Can you see the comparison now?
gqathlete 3 years ago
Your statements are so IRRATIONAL!!!
talk85 3 years ago 2
I see your rhetorical skills have not improved. let's try asking for the 65th time.
why are atheists parasites. I've seen every childish evasion imaginable and still you can't answer. think, fool, THINK try to form a coherent answer. you owe it to the millions you insult with this filth.
"Why do you care so much anyways?" because sparky, contrary to your claim that he was adressing christians he yells from the start- "I wanna address this to atheists" we should sit mute as your hero lies?
McMonster65 3 years ago
You can't. He's in heaven with God.
megawolf7 3 years ago
"You can't. He's in heaven with God." If that is the case I'd rather end up in hell.
infinit888 3 years ago
Thats fine. Then you will have your wish. You'll get there and be there forever.
megawolf7 3 years ago
You obviously don't understand my allusive comment.
1) If that hate spewing person is in heaven I seriouly question the morality of "your" God.
2) Heaven would be hell if it were filled by people like that.
3) Heaven would be hell because it is the infinite worship of god which you can't escape.
4) Most important. Noone would wish to go to hell if it were real => Hell is a FAIRYTALE.
infinit888 3 years ago
God will not drag you into heaven. You decide not Him. There are 2 types of people:
1. Those who say to God, "Thy will be done."
2. Those to whom God says, "Thy will be done."
You'll find out if hell is a fairytell not. Its just a matter of time.
megawolf7 3 years ago
You'll find out if hell is a fairytell not.
grow up!
hell on earth is real- the real hell is living delusions and lies and being incapable of dealing with reality without a security blanket and imaginary friends. inasmuch as there is a hell- you are in it.
McMonster65 3 years ago
I just had a banana split! Yum. Doesn't seem like hell to me here on earth. I gues you don't know the definition of hell. NO Pleasure, NONE can exist there.
megawolf7 3 years ago
and you think jeeebus will approve of hate speech like walter martins? lies about nonexistent degrees like "dr" martin's?
McMonster65 3 years ago
There is not an ounce of "hate" in Dr. Martin's speech. Even IF there was, this doesn't prove hell is on earth.
megawolf7 3 years ago
so calling millions of people of whom he knows nothing "parasites" isn't hate speech? If he were referring to jews or christians or blacks he would be arrested in many countries. but it's ok because the targets for the abuse are atheists? sorry, it's not ok and if you think it is then you haven't thought enough.
McMonster65 3 years ago
Calling someone a parasite does not mean hate. It simply means something is living off of another. You don't have to hate someone/something to point out the fact that someone/something lives off of another.
megawolf7 3 years ago
sorry you are wrong.
it's is driven by hate and ignorance. and in his case stupidity.
was hume a parasite? russell, sagan, watson, crick, feynman, weinberg, parasites? dawkins? bill gates, alan turing, GH hardy, parasites? Noether, einstein, asimov, dennett, chomsky, pinker, hawkings, parasites?
these did more good every day than that degenerate in a life.
no, its hate. he's full of it and so are you. your cult would fill any decent person religious or not with the utmost disgust.
McMonster65 3 years ago
Of course the parasite would get offended. Still doesn't mean there is hate there. Its seems you are the one who being hateful.
megawolf7 3 years ago
no sparky. the tongue tied imbecile who posted this filth tried this tack too. didn't work for him either.
standing up and refusing to bow down to vile abuse is not hate. it's self respect.
I've listed some of the most important figures in human century thought. their work has radically and positively affected all our lives. none was/is a parasite. you think otherwise because your morals have been warped by this hateful cult.
"dr" martin's phd was as real as his hair. he was a liar too
McMonster65 3 years ago
your operating system was designed by an atheist- PC? gates is an atheist, MAC? wozniak is an atheist, the computer you use was dreamed up by an atheist-turing- without whom you might be living under nazism as he also broke the enigma code and won WW2. the structure of your DNA was found by 2 atheists. the biggest philanthropist alive is an atheis- buffet so is the second- gates
and you call them all parasites since they don't share your belief in the truth of some folk tales. you ARE in hell
McMonster65 3 years ago
Mega, Unless you can show them to be parasites it is fair to say that you had emotive reasons for calling atheists parasites. Fundamentalist Christians can more accurate be described as parasites than atheists. Fundamentalist Christians use things that required science make them. ie. microwaves,computers,heart monitors,hospitals .etc while also pretending science is evil. The live off of the work of others while condemning those same people to hell.What is your argument?
neonmagek 3 years ago
I have been trying for several months to get the clown who posted this video to account for spreading hate speech and when confronted with his own actions he becomes like a toungue tied toddler- wedded to this pathetic slogan that if you don't believe in an imaginary friend then you can't make moral judgements.
sad- pathetic, hateful, dishonest and sad.
McMonster65 3 years ago
@McMonster65 u call this hate??goto an athiest convention,,youll see hatred at its finest.
uwique 2 days ago
Hey, megawolf. Did anyone take you up on your challenge? I never heard of this type of challenge before. Very interesting I might add. My fear is Satan may be content to not reveal anything and just let them stay as atheists. Or worse. What if something horrible happens? Then denying the supernatural would not be an issue, but something terrible could happen. The fact no one is taking the challenge makes me think people are afraid of something. Could prove something, but at what price?
JKODarthrat 3 years ago
No one took the challenge. It seems atheists are afraid to take it. I know the possiblity that something really horrible could happen if one took it. Thats my point. It would be my hope that somethong bad WOULD happen and the only cure would be Jesus. I know that sounds bad, but athiests are on the path to hell anyway. Better for one to experience a taste of hell on earth and later come to Christ rather then experience hell for eternity.
megawolf7 3 years ago
You are right. I would hope it would not take something so extreme, but if they find the Lord that way it would be worth it. I know people who have been involved with actual diabolical possession. Not the assembly line stuff on TV. The real thing. My pastor said without the Lord you would wet yourself and faint. Or have a heart attack. "Greater is He who is in us than he who is in the world." Peace Brother.
JKODarthrat 3 years ago
I've asked more than once what this challenge is.
no response.
McMonster65 3 years ago
Who have you been asking? Megawolf?
JKODarthrat 3 years ago
asked on this thread more than once. I wondered if the challenge was to listen to "dr" martin for more than 3 minutes straight without being sick in your mouth.
McMonster65 3 years ago
I do not believe that was the challenge. Apparently you guy's were all in a heated argument. Megawolf7, was saying that an atheist should get involved in Satanism or the occult, in order to prove the supernatural. I was telling him I did not think it was such a good idea. Although, the premise is interesting, it could do more harm than good.
JKODarthrat 3 years ago
if so then megawolf should grow up. atheists in general are too busy leading productive, happy lives, raising families and getting on with being here to bother with redundant superstitious nonsense like satanism or any other religion.
McMonster65 3 years ago
Go Dr.Walter Martin!!!
gqathlete 3 years ago
eloquent and thoughtfull as ever.
so why are atheists parasites.
McMonster65 3 years ago
why are atheists parasites. simple question which months after it being put to you you are utterly incapable of answering.
what does that tell you.
you are a bigoted hate-filled simpleton.
McMonster65 3 years ago
Every time you leave comments such as yours you prove why you are a parasite! Hate-filled is a great description of your comments. You should open up your ears and listen to Walter Martin, he explains it beautifully. Why do you want me to repeat what he says all the time? Why does this subject bother you so much? Why should it? Cant people have their opinions? Or should people have just an Atheistic view?
gqathlete 3 years ago
Better for one to experience a taste of hell on earth.....
Hell on earth is the state of mind that causes grown adults like yourself to babble like children about your invisible friends and their superhero powers.
grow up ffs!
McMonster65 3 years ago
tell me more about your challenge.
does it have anything to do with not tolerating the hatred and stupidity of evil minded lying bigots like walter martin?
McMonster65 3 years ago
Take a look at your comments to this channel! Your everything that your preaching about. Why is it that atheists can use arguments against Christians but that same argument is not valid or able to be use against them?
gqathlete 3 years ago
I think you ought to know that the VAST majority of christians would find this kind of seething incoherent hatred disgusting in the extreme. as Ive said your religion has robbed you of the capacity to behave decently or to tell right from wrong. martin is very very wrong he explains nothing beauifuly because like you his mind is demented with hate for those who dont share his beliefs. I have no such hatred for those who think differenly to me. in this you and I differ. you should be ashamed.
McMonster65 3 years ago
woW and youre obviously angry about something.
Your bias is so evident that you even disregard the facts that are presented and unwillingly to address the question he pose about atheism - instead of taking this personally
liberatedvialove 3 years ago
what on earth are you talking about? what facts? martin presents no facts only his bitter seething hatred of those who don't share his abusrd beliefs. to call millions of people PARASITES and present not a shred of evidence to sustain the charge is nothing more than vulgar hate speech.
you don;t understand what bias is. do you have to hold every position at the same time in order not to be biased?
this is vulgar uneducated bigotry at its worst. and the person spreading it should be ashamed.
McMonster65 3 years ago
God will not drag you into heaven. You decide not Him. There are 2 types of people:
1. Those who say to God, "Thy will be done."
2. Those to whom God says, "Thy will be done."
You'll find out if hell is a fairytell not. Its just a matter of time.
megawolf7 3 years ago
I don't need a barking mad person telling me that their delusion is real without evidence. As if that would be an argument for anything. Keep your delusion for yourself.
infinit888 3 years ago
From my perspective you are the one who is delusional. To me you are the one who is lacking in logic and thinking. Like I said, Its all a matter of time for you. Just keep living until the end.
megawolf7 3 years ago
Yes I'm delusional because I don't believe in a supernatural, brutal, bronze age myth with absolutely no evidence for it (a.k.a big sky daddy, a.k.a big brother).
By that definition you'd be delusional to for not believing in allah. So no matter how you turn it. You're delusional.
infinit888 3 years ago
You said theres no evidence for the supernatural. Guess you haven't been at the right place at the right time. Look for it and you'll find it.
Go conjure up demonic forces and see what happens. They don't exist right? Shoudn't be a problem then. There's no devil right? Go get involved with Satanism and see. Go buy books and summon spirits and see what happens. The supernatural is not real so it will be easy to disprove me right? I'm serious, take my challange, go look for it and see.
megawolf7 3 years ago
Yes I know and if I have "faith" in santa claus he'd be real for me to. Still doesn't change the fact that he only exists in my fantasy because I want him to.
Never underestimate the human brains ability to delude. Just go have a stroll through a lunatic asylum.
infinit888 3 years ago
Did I mention faith? I want you to summon the spirits WITHOUT faith. I challange you to get involved with Demonology, Pagan Mysticsm, Witchcraft, Luciferianism, Black Magick. I want you to chuckle with hubris when you do it.
Then you will be at the right place at the right time. The devil is only a fantasy right? Isn't he? So what is there to lose or be afraid of? Nothing right? I challange you to become immersed into demonic spirituality WITHOUT a shred of faith. Lets see what happens.
megawolf7 3 years ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A subjective notion of the transcendent which I can also achieve by looking into the hubble deep field is hardly compelling enough to prove the existance of : god, jesus, hell, fairies, goblins, elfs, pink unicorns, FSM ...etc. Because lets face it. If the supernatural exists all of its forms are equally likely.
infinit888 3 years ago
You're DODGING my challange. Athiests ALWAYS say the burden of proof lies on the beliver in the supernatural. Here is your chance to get the proof or dismiss it as folly! I SIMPLY ask you to get involved with Luciferianism and Witchcraft. And do it with the UPMOST skeptism which will be easy for you. Do it for fun! Do it to see the silly superstious people do their stupid rituals! Get inloved with a local coven. I'll help you. If I find a coven local to your area will you do it?
megawolf7 3 years ago
I already had transcendent moments and to me they are part of our evolutionary makeup as a emotional species.
"Athiests ALWAYS say the burden of proof lies on the beliver in the supernatural."
Subjective feelings/beliefs aren't evidence. We could all believe in the FSM it however doesn't make him real. When we atheists talk about evidence it's either empirical or mathematical and you can't provide neither.
infinit888 3 years ago
You STILL dodge the challange. Who said anything about "transcendent moments"? Or "Subjective Feelings"? What scientist makes his conclusions BEFORE even doing the experiment? YOU'RE MAKING EXCUSES.
Empirical evidence can't be provided? You haven't even joined the coven yet! I'll even pay for the book you need to get started! Just give me a P.O. Box # in my inbox and I'll send you one. You don't even have to tell me your name. Please take my challange. Will you become involved with Lucifer?
megawolf7 3 years ago
What is it about evidence that you don't understand? No matter how convinced (deluded) I would become it still wouldn't be evidence. It still wouldn't be real!
infinit888 3 years ago
You ASSUME it wouldn't be real. Anyone can say: "but it still won't be real!" Back that statement up with some tests. I will provide you with the proper material. And then you can invite Lucifer to come into you. Is Santa Clause real? Of course not! If you invited Santa into your body then there should be NO SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCES because Santa does not exist. Right? So pray to Lucifer (who isn't there) and invite him into your body. Do it every night for a month. See what happens. Will ya?
megawolf7 3 years ago
I'm trying to figure out how any sentient being on the face of the planet can listen to someone scream the most vile hateful abuse at literally tens of millions of people of whom "dr" martin knows precisely nothing and think it's ok. maybe in your warped immoral universe....you're welcome to it, sounds hellish to me.
McMonster65 3 years ago
1) If that hate spewing person is in heaven I seriouly question the morality of "your" God
don't worry. Wally's not in heaven- his wig is though. sitting at the right hand of the father right next to his fake ph.d that he lied about.
what a hateful pig ignorant piece of shit. and the sad tongue tied clown who posted it is no better. I've asked dozens of times if he can justify the notion that atheists are parasites and all I get is pathetic babble like "telling it like it is". poor fool.
McMonster65 3 years ago
All do respect respect McMonster65. You are telling me non-religious folk are more peaceful. Well, you sound very angry and you seem to be hating me. Excuse me sir, I belive I have only been polite. It really is up to the individual as to wether or not he wishes to be good. I don't blame atheism or theism for what has gone wrong with the world. I just blame people. There are "Chrisitans"who are evil, but are not Christians since they don't really follow Christ. I am, since I am peaceful.Godpeed
nccrlz 3 years ago
I don't hate anyone, I have listened to enough hate speech from walter martin and his ilk to make me puke.
I am angered that having posted this offensive tripe GQathlete can't string two sentences of his own to justify the hate speech in the video. I am angered because 1) I am an atheist 2) I am not a parasite.
If vile hate speech doesn't anger you then why? are we supposed to sit mute at the back of the bus while a pig ignorant lying bigot calls us parasites. I think it's time to stand up.
McMonster65 3 years ago
Please care to write back to me Mcmonster65. It seems as though I have threatened someone in your family.You seem VERY MAD at me personally.Chances are you are an ethical, fine man.You say you have no religion and yet you take what seems to be very personal offense to people who hate atheism. Why would it bother you if you don't beleieve in moral absolutes? Like I said, I just get angry when people who blame evrything on religion don't even realize the Atheist philosophy killed over 100 million
nccrlz 3 years ago
He doesn't want to understand!
gqathlete 3 years ago
He doesn't want to understand!
you poor poor child. you are so screwed up with this hate cult that I doubt you are capable of understanding anything.
McMonster65 3 years ago
Well enjoy your anger. I think you are wrong. Both stalin and mao elevated the state to the position of a deity. and in pursuit of that power millions were killed. certainly not in pusit of atheism. GQ, our dimwitted toungue tied host, can't quite grasp that hitler wasn't an atheist. his followers certainly numbered many many christians- it was an overwhelmingly christian country.
I'm amused that your grasp on life is so tenuous that you find it odd that I find "dr" martin offensive.
McMonster65 3 years ago