@mrorville1 Yea America isnt perfect never said that. But whos gonna come save Canada when they really need help? Your oviously pretty stupid because a comment like that would prove so. Im not hear to argue with an angry Canadian tryna be sweet. Fact is to people who are normal, somebody like Sadam doent deserve a tribute video, he was fucked up period end of story you cant argue he was a fucked up dude.Yes i know america does bad shit also but so does everybody in the world. At least we try
@mrorville1 How do you even know i am American? Your stupid. imagine a world where everyone is like Sadam. You would be begging to have him killed after he tortured and killed your whole family. You dont know anything about America, people beg for our help then when we help they bitch. If it wasnt for America there would be a lot of good things missing from the earth. Oviously America isnt perfect, but at least we try to do something.
@rawez94 FUCK YOU YOU KURDA BASTARD HE IS A TRUE LION ! EVEN YOU WOULDNT HAVE STOOD ON THE STAND LIKE THAT YOU FUCKING POOR KURDISTANI MOTHER FUCKER IF WE WERE FACE TO FACE I WOULD HAVE SHOVED MY COCK INTO YOUR EYE AND PISSED INSIDE YOUR MOUTH YOU FUCKING DIRTY KURDY! SADDAM WAS THE ONLY PERSON READY TO IGHT AGAINST THE AMERICAN JEWS AND THESE CRUSADERS! AND YOU ARE ONE OF THE HIPICROTES OF THIS WORLD WHO BACKSTAB AT ANY CHANCE ! I WILL FUCK YOUR SISTER AND MOTHER UNTILL BLOOD IS ALL OVER
@MustafaLund yes....he killed kurds,and he stood against america,but did he suceed? ^^,i think not jackass,and if i would stand face to face with you,i would shove my FIST up your empty skull,
murder is the worst possible thing a man can do,and killing SO many people...is DISGUSTING.
may saddam and all his followers burn in the eternal fires of the hell.
@MustafaLund This man was a dickless coward who killed countless innocents even his own people. He was a piece of shit and thats why his ass was dangling from a noose because he was a piece of dog shit
@muffinman9797 Okay, good. That's the first step to sanity. Chapters I and II do not mention an expulsion of the Phoenicians, nor does it mention anything geographical except the Mediterranean, the Jordan and Jericho (which may have fallen, but the Phoenician empire existed until 539 BC, way too late for Joshua's time). You keep accusing me of saying something I never did isn't helping your cause at all (nor are the accusations of me making things up).
@DuxImperator Chapters 1-2 don't. I said 1-12 if I didn't my mistake. And I will keep accusing you of stuff until you back it up which I still have yet to see.And I don't care is THIS isn't "helping my cause." Just trying to show that some of the things you say don't make sense. And If you aren't able to back it up I'm not going to laugh in your face anything. Just showing you that it's incorrect. And the Bible does mention Israel going in to take the land. If I had more room I would explain why
@muffinman9797 YO FAGGOT, SADDAM WAS THE SHIT AND BUSH SUCKED BIG JEW BALLS, YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE FOR ROOTING FOR THE JEWS AND THE ZOG AND ISRAEL, SADDAM WAS ONE OF THE ONLY MEN WHO ACTUALLY HAD HIS SHIT TOGETHER.
@irkenemperor So i guess it's ok that he gassed 10,000 kurds, supported 9/11, and murdered many others. So you can support a murder who was despised by him own people, but it's not ok for me to support a nation that was separated for 2,000 year and massacred. I don't think you would have liked him if you lived in Iraq in the 80's you anti-american terrorist faggot.
@muffinman9797 Haha like you give a rat’s ass about the Kurds. Supported 9/11? Wow… that’s pathetic. Murdered many others? Please, I’d love to hear this one. “Murder” isn’t a noun! “Despised by him own people”? Your only evidence seems to be the welcoming of the invasion. Would it be right for me to steal your land because 2,000 years ago my people lived there?
@DuxImperator Hahaha like you give a rat's ass about the Palestinians you contradictory fascist. I'm pathetic hahah keep 'em coming there funny. I have already showed you video of the Kurds you can look up others Saddam has murdered, even though you probably won't and just continue to ask me. And I guess tearing down a statue isn't enough....how about they HANGED him.But I guess that's not enough either b/c you will just continue to believe he was a great man. And BRITAIN gave to them. You funny
@muffinman9797 I do care for the Palestinians (as well as the Iraqis). Why do you think I’ve been going out of my way to defend them this whole time? You’ve only brought up the Kurds to help your argument. You showed me one instance of a village being gassed, nothing else. Once again, these were rebels against the regime, not mainstream Iraqis. He was a hero. Britain gave what?
@DuxImperator The other one was giving reasons for WHY this happened. If you noticed they said "an alternative." So those articles weren't really backing up what you said.
@muffinman9797 One must question the Old Testament when it contradicts mainstream history (ie that of the Greeks, Persians, etc). For example, there is significant evidence that the Holy Land was an Egyptian territory in about 1300 BC (approximate time of Moses), nor is there evidence of the conquest of Canaan/Phoenicia by outsiders, or for that matter the alleged slave revolt against Egypt.
@DuxImperator I'm NEVER question the Old Testament. It also contradiction evolution which has been disproved many times.But that's for another day. If there is significance it's probably in another part in the Bible.But Israel was imprisoned for either 400 or 600 years, then were lead to the promised land.B/c God promised them a land. And I'll look for where it talks about the slave revolt. Or ask a pastor or Bible scholar and they will tell you. Looking at the past helps understand the present
@muffinman9797 Hahaha are you a creationist? I understand that looking to the past can help us in the present. That’s exactly why we should debate history rather than put 100% of our trust in ancient texts (especially religious ones). Are you just going to ignore big historical contradictions?
A true nationalist hero! Someone who rejected the barbarianism of his neighbors, and truly loved his people. Instead of suppressing the people of Iraq with brutality, he resurrected their ancient culture and let it flourish. May he rest in peace.
@DuxImperator He gased his own people (the kurds) and crashed planes in to ours. He also killed thousands of others. Are you trying to make people mad at you
@muffinman9797 You sound just like every other confused and misinformed American, convinced that democracy is a flawless and holy concept. Stop listening to the American media and do your own research, please.
@DuxImperator Let's get one thing straight, NOTHING is flawless. I just know that freedom has lead America to be the prosperous nation in history not to say it hasn't made mistakes like every other country in the world. I also know that in during saddam's rein I would have rather been in America that in Iraq or Iran. Hussein MURDERED countless people and for some reason you think he let his country "flourish" why do you everyone in irag despises him. do your own research, please
@muffinman9797 Yup, keep buying into that story. Does everyone in Iraq despise him? Well, it's not like there is an entire resistance movement fighting against the US occupation...
Americans have been tricked into believing the mass-murder/WMD/Al-Quaeda myth. I do not think you are a malicious person, but you are misguided. The 148 men Saddam did execute were traitors from mullah-occupied Persia ("Iran"). And if you believe Saddam was anything like the mullahs, I don't know what to tell you.
@DuxImperator Yup keep buying into your own story. If Hussein didn't murder countless people. The Iraq people wouldn't have torn down his statue and thanked USA. There is NO evidence that he didn't murder thousands. You only believe what you do because every one believes the opposite. Terrorists attacked the US on 9/11, and will continue until we win this war. Hussein DID murder and you have nothing support your because you are an ignoran,t anti-patriotic person who takes his country for granted
@muffinman9797 The Iraqi people "thanked" the US? Since when? Every leader will have factions that are unhappy with him, so a few people tearing a statue down proves nothing. Islamic factions, not secular Ba'athists (like Saddam) attacked on 9/11. The media (and people like you) are the ones who bear the burden of proof, as it is you making these accusations. And don't give me the anti-patriotic BS. I am a nationalist (as well as a former Republican). I do not hate the US, just its ignorance.
@DuxImperator Of course they thanked the US. We went in their and stopped a killer. And alot of people tearing proves everything. If Americans tore down a statue of George Bush and someone said to you that proves nothing you would think they're out of their mind. And the burden I bear, is having people like you in America who think that our enemies are heroes for whatever reason. You say America is ignorant but you make such ignorant statements with nothing to back them up with. Saddam=murderer
@muffinman9797 If a foreign army with no pretext to invade did so, and people tear down a statue of the president, that really only says that the (former) government had enemies. But who doesn't? Yes, the US is ignorant because it chose to attack a country that virtually nothing to do with Al Qaeda. And those who make ludicrous allegations (ie Saddam had WMDs - this remains unproven) still bear the burden of proof. And don't you know that the victors are the ones that right the history books?
@muffinman9797 And "nothing to back them up"? Umm, you're the one supporting the people who accused Ba'athist Iraq of having WMDs and having links to Al Qaeda. As we know by know, both turned out to be false. Saddam died for his nation, as well as the secular nationalist cause. He cared about his people; Iraqis and Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites. When the US murdered that hero, they only enabled Islamic groups like Al Qaeda from causes more havoc in the region. The US attacked the wrong people.
@DuxImperator I have way more to back up my information than you do. There was nothing wrong with us going in there. and looking for WMD. If we hadn't people today would still be thinking "what if they do have WMD, are they going to attack us." Because we went in there now we didn't have to be afraid. When you say Saddam "died" for his nation you better mean hanged by his own people. The US didn't kill him we found him and handed him over to the Iraqis. Saddam murdered the kurds he didnt care.
@muffinman9797 So suspicion of WMNDs justifies the death of thousands of Americans and Iraqis? "His own people"? Like I said earlier; an active leader always has enemies. If a foreign army handed over Obama to the Tea Party, them killing him would not represent the whole US. And like you or the US government give a rat's ass about the Kurds (or Iraqis). The only Kurds who fought against Saddam were the separatists/leftists. Most Kurds accepted Ba'athism as an alternative to an Islamist regime.
@DuxImperator America never attacked the wrong people. We were called upon to help like every war for the past few decades and we did and yet people still mock us for doing that. EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE WE SAVED. I'm not saying the US hasn't made mistakes but most of what we have done has been for bettering the nation or continent we were in. Vietnam,Europe twice ,Korea and so on. Saddam was terrorizing Kuwait and Iran and went in stop him murdering people. We stopped a murder, NOT KILLED, stopped
@muffinman9797 You actually believe that the US government went into Iraq to save the Iraqi people and their neighbors?! That's not even what they claimed to be doing when the invasion was launched. They went in because of Saddam's (unproven) connection to bin Laden, under the pretext of Saddam having WMDs. It isn't the US's business anyway, to judge who can have certain weapons. Besides, if the US were to invade any country in the Middle East that terrorizes the innocent, why not invade Israel?
@DuxImperator WOW. Were do you get your information. During Desert storm we went in to drive Saddam out of Kuwait and then tried to establish a REAL government in Iraq. And if we think someone might attack us with WMD it is our business to go in and stop it. As for Israel, man what are talking about there are last good country remaining in the middle east. Israel never attacked anyone. Everyone else keeps trying to attack Israel. Iran,6 day war, Yom Kippur.
@muffinman9797 More like a puppet government! What right does the US have determining who is legitimate in the Middle East? Why is it right for the US to simply use other governments? The United States Funded the Taliban during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. Perhaps the US thought they were the "real" government of Afghanistan? If you were a true American patriot, you would see that thousands of young Americans dying for trivial and misguided causes is wrong. Oh and Israel...
@DuxImperator Plus you have to put your self in the position of Israel. There are circled in with countrys that want to destroy them. They are just trying to defend themselves. Say you were in massive firefight and had to kill the enemy no matter what. But in the process you killed some kids by mistake. That wasn't you intention but it just happened. When the US funded the Taliban It was because they were being invaded by russia for no reason, and they came across as the good guys.
@muffinman9797 Trust me, I used to be a Republican and a supporter of Israel. The Israeli Army does not have to kill as many civilians as they do every year. Israeli soldiers are legally allowed to occupy Palestinian homes whenever they want. How would you feel if that constantly happened to you? And if Israel truly wants the Two-State solution, why does it allow settlers on the West Bank? If the US truly believes its ideals of freedom and tolerance, it would not support such a brutal entity.
@DuxImperator And in a sense Israel did have it's way in the 6 day war. They may have attacked first but everyone knew syria, jordan, and egypt were going to attack them. Again put yourself in the position of an Israeli,how would you feel in this situation. Israel has to keep defending themselves, what do you want them to do let people attack them. Plus after the 6 day war was over they gave back the sinai peninsula to egypt just because. Israel isn't terrorizing anyone.
@muffinman9797 Presumptions always lead to trouble when it comes to global power politics. I used to know their situation well enough. I used to be on your side, which is why I have sympathy for you. Israel murdered nine people on a ship bringing aid to starving people in Gaza- one of which was an American citizen (once in the chest, four times in the head, according to the Israeli autopsy). How did Israel get away with it? What would you do if commandos boarded your ship illegally like that...
@DuxImperator Alright, Israel blockaded Gaza b/c people sending weapons to Gaza so they could attack Israel. The ship entered as unauthorized danger. They sent commandos to check it out to see if it was a danger. From what was said one of the people on the ship pulled out a gun FIRST and the commandos were forced to fire. The commandos didn't board it illegally, that's like saying that if Iran had a ship a few hundred miles off the coast of MA and we boarded it. Israeli did nothing wrong
@muffinman9797 You really think peace activists are going to risk everything by smuggling weapons? These were international waters, so who is Israel to decide whether they have a right to be in international waters. If the Turk did pull out a gun, I would be surprised. I would be frightening if commandos illegally boarded my ship. He probably didn't fire first anyway. Israel murdered nine people trying to feed starving people- one of which was an AMERICAN citizen just like Rachel Corrie.
@DuxImperator They DID NOT board it illegally. They felt threatened b/c people have smuggling weapons to Palestine. All Israel did was blockade Palestine. Blockade a section of THEIR land, you have to understand how threatened Israel must feel with nations that are constantly taunting them with weapons, big or small it doesn't matter how big it is if it can murder. People attack Israel first, you why Israel attacks back so hard. To remind their enemies to never attack Israel.
@muffinman9797 "Big weapons"? Tell me, how many nukes does Israel have? Oh yeah, I forgot: IT'S A SECRET. What does that tell us. And so, a few lame qassam rockets gives Israel the right to do things like dump white phosphorus, killing men, women and children, in addition to all of their other dishonorable acts. In fact, Israel is the only legitimate government in the Middle East to attack the US. But of course, you cannot understand that. Supporting an indigenous people is not unpatriotic.
@DuxImperator You know what that tells me. It's secret so that when Iran attacks Israel FIRST, Israel can nuke them in the next dimension. There are so many countries that want to nuke Israel, and Israel is keeping it a secret to keep their enemies scared. Yes and few lame rocket (that murder) do give Israel the right to bomb Palestine. Israel is trying to send a message saying "STOP ATTACKING US." If people just stopped attacking Israel that would be the end. But no....they are that stupid
@muffinman9797 We can't even prove that Iran is making weapons. They signed the NPT with full inspections and Israel doesn't. Yet they are sanctioned. So in order to send a message, you starve poor indigenous people and dump white phosphorus on them. Tell me, if there were no more murderous attacks, settlements or checkpoints, why would Palestinians attack? Every pole has indicated that they want the Two-State Solution. But Israel, who has the power to make this possible, never does. Explain.
@DuxImperator If I saw my brothers in arms or family turn into just separated body parts I would become very trigger happy: ) And we basically can prove that they don't have WMD but are in the making. Ahmadinejad has said he wants to destroy Israel. And when Iran attacks I think that will settle it. And yes that is a way to send a message, (you think Gaza would have gotten it by now) and Israel isn't starving Palestine as much as you think they are cutting off supply lines for weapons to Gaza.
@muffinman9797 Check the statistics. Palestinian CIVILIANS- men, woman and children, are brutally murdered by the IDF. It's not a romantic tail of vengeful civilians. It's just ordinary soldiers being told their duty. The stereotypical terrorist attacks are done by the Zionists, anyway. Deir Yassin, King David Hotel, Balad al-Shaykh, not to mention all of the times settlers attack Palestinian villages and set their fields and forests on fire. How are the settlements fair?
@DuxImperator Well here's what I've been saying from the start Gaza should STOP attacking Israel FIRST, dont say your retarded "rocks and missiles" it murders. And if Gaza is attacking Israel again and again and again then Israel is going to have to take 2 eyes for an eye. Palestine has know right to keep attacking Israel. Palestine fired the first shot so Israel is going to finish it. What you want Israel to just let their enemies attack them and not do anything. NO, Israel will finish this war
@muffinman9797 It is Israel that fired the first shots- they invaded another people's land. It's Israel that commits the great massacres. It's Israel that has the power to stop the settlements and make the two-state solution possible. It's Israel that has the power. If Israel acted humanely like the West, violence would cease on the other side. Trust me. Every Western country knows that victimizing a less fortunate people is inhuman. Why doesn't anyone hold the barbarians to this standard?
@DuxImperator If Israel ever "masssacers" its b/c countries attack them first, except for the 6 day war b/c they knew they going to be attacked. How can say Israel is the terrorist force, when you have the PLO, Al quida, the Taliban and just other enemies that attack Israel. Throughout history countries have despised Israel much of it b/c Jesus was from Israel. Jesus was the one persecuted (just like Israel), for doing nothing even Pilot said I find no fault in this man.
@DuxImperator People don't hold Israel to this b/c they aren't barbarians. Have you ever heard of them hijacking planes, or using suicide bombs, or trying to actually conquer other nations. NO it's b/c everyone else attacks Israel. And why would Israel want to make a two state solution when their land is already as small as it is. If you here about Israel "massacering" anyone it's b/c that nation attacked Israel first.And Israel is the only country that is willing to invade for self defense
@muffinman9797 The Israeli barbarians don't have to do cheap terrorist attacks like hijacking because they have the means to do it "legally" (although they constantly break international law). And yes, they've been conquering another nation since the forties. If a nation has so many enemies and so many people sympathize with the persecuted, they're is probably something wrong they are doing. I just can't believe a sentient being could support these atrocities.
@DuxImperator the US has just as many enemies as Israel does, but that doesn't make them an evil country. It means people are jealous of what we have. Israel doesn't just send troops to conquer other nations. They don't go out and fight other peoples war like the US has. They keep themselves and want to left alone. Why do think Israel keeps attacking. B/c Palestine attacks them FIRST. And in WAR if someone attacks you FIRST, anything goes. Even with war "rules" not everyone will keep them.
@muffinman9797 There is no such thing as evil. Israel is barbaric, but "evil" is just a word that justifies war. The IDL has already conquered a nation and its people. And the "Palestinians attack them first" logic is silly. Why would a people that suffer so much poverty attack a powerful and brutal nation for no reason? It all started with the eviction of the Palestinian people from their land. Even after the UK left, Israel kept expanding. So Israel fired the first shot and continues today.
@DuxImperator If think there is no such thing as evil your in denial. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini. You saying what these people did wasn't evil. Israel moved in under the UK's permission they didn't come in unannounced. Yes Israel moved in but Palestine attacked first by killing jews. The Palestinians aren't indigenous anymore. B/c Israel came in they were forced to modernize. And YES they are hiding weapons all sorts any country now a day can-somalia,yemen, you name it they can get it easily
@muffinman9797 It's all about understanding your enemy. That doesn't mean you cannot attack him, but labeling things as "evil" is only propaganda. And Palestinians are the indigenous people, in the same way the American Indians are in the US. Palestinians, especially in Gaza, cannot modernize because supplies, spare parts and even electricity are not allowed to be brought in. People there rely on poor-quality generators for the most part. Oh, I'm so sure they have so many weapons. Poor Israel!
@DuxImperator Why would Gaza attack Israel b/c they don't like them (PLO). And why would Israel give away how many nukes they have that's like telling criminals that you have guns in your house so now they know that they should bring one to kill you. If Palestine wants Israel to stop attacking them then Palestine should surrender and leave Israel alone. And the two state solution, why would Israel want to give away their land that's like if you live in TX and then it was given to mexico.
@muffinman9797 Their land? How would you feel if you were living peacefully, on you land and out of nowhere settlers showed up. With the help of a stronger people, they move you away. Wave after wave of people push you out, claiming "God gave us this land". Now you are confined to a few spots of what was your land, and you think it's over. Well, here comes more people who tell you about their "God-given right". They build houses in your yard and torch your fields. How would you feel about that?
@DuxImperator First of all it was England's decision to allow Israel to settle. Second there was hardly anything there mostly farm country and Israel came and modernized it. They didn't conquer it or start communising it or making it fascist or anything they just came in. The Palestiniens didn't have to leave. Israel never harmed anyone there they just moved in. Plus they had just been massacered by Hitler. Where else were they going to regroup?
@muffinman9797 I never said it wasn't the English. The indigenous people were evicted. Just because Jews were persecuted and imprisoned by Germany does give them the right to steal someone else's land. For a people that were forced to leave their own land by the Babylonians, the Jews should know that it isn't good to evict people from their land.
@DuxImperator Another thing that isn't discussed enough is that Israel and Palestine have been at war for thousands of years. They have always been fighting it goes back to David and Goliath. Israel was being attacked by Palestine and had to defend themselves. Like now. They didn't push the people off the land. If Palestine had cooperated and be kind to Israel Gaza would be a very rich country with support from all around. But no they just keep attacking Israel. And Israel will always fight back
@muffinman9797 You don't think Israel is Goliath; the large and more powerful of the two? Palestine fights without Western technology, often using primitive weapons like slings. Israel has billions of dollars worth of weaponry. So eviction and encouraging settlements (a broken promise) is not pushing people of their land? Israel has been initiating attacks since the 1940s! And the INDIGENOUS people shouldn't need to bow down to a racist tyrant. Come on, I know you are smarter than this.
@DuxImperator No i don't think Israel is Goliath b/c um he died. They are david b/c they will always win, they are attacked first and many people mock them. Dude if you were half informed with what technology is these days you would know that Gaza has stashes of all kinds of weapons. From ak-47s to stinger missiles, to grenades and the list goes on, come on I know know your smarter than his. If all Gaza was doing was throwing rocks it wouldn't be in the news. But they murder which is in the news
@muffinman9797 I am not talking about who wins or loses, I am talking about national character- Palestinian David vs. the Israeli Goliath. And you believe the zionist lie that Palestinians all keep AKs under their beds (an exaggeration). It is Israel that has the WMDs, rockets and guns, not Palestine or Saddam or the Persians. The reason I can see past zionism's lies is because I used to believe them all. And as for throwing rock- yes, Palestinians are arrested for that too. Even children.
@DuxImperator Everyone knows that Palestine has weapons that 's why Israel keeps attacking, and that's why they blockaded b/c Turkey was sending weapons to Gaza. If Turkey wasn't sending weapons then Israel wouldn't have done anything. Why doesn't Israel go and wipe off Gaza off the face of the earth. B/c Israel is the good guy, and that will never change. If Israel was so corrupt they wouldn't treat their people the way they do. And if Gaza keeps attacking they wont last long...wait and see
@muffinman9797 Wow! You actually believe that the Turks give them weapons? Israel doesn't nuke Gaza because it would cross the line for the UN. "Good guys" don't murder civilians. They aren't corrupt, just ethnocentric and barbaric. You think people who live in fear, unemployment and extreme poverty are planning on attacking the Israeli oppressors? With what? The imaginary WMDs they're hiding? And you're holding your breath for the murder and destruction of an entire people? That's unfortunate.
@DuxImperator That's why Israel blockaded it the first place! You think Israel is trying to stop food from getting to Palestine, TALK ABOUT IGNORANCE. You can deny the truth as long as you want but in the end you'll realize that Israel is the good guy. Israel bombs the people who have been been firing missiles at them first. It's that simple. Palestine won't deny attacking Israel and won't stop either. You have NOTHING to back up your info with, BUT I DO. Palestine attacks Israel and won't win
@muffinman9797 They are systematically starving the Palestinian people. You're the one making the ignorant allegations. Show me Iran's sinister plan to bomb poor Israel. And do pictures of murdered children and bombed hospitals suffice? How about photos of families living in extreme poverty? I have plenty of proof to back my words. And you seem to forget that the victor is not always a "good guy". What about Vietnam? The Viet Cong won there, but do you think they were good? I'm sure you don't.
@DuxImperator They aren't starving anyone. Palestine has starved themselves of what could have a free and rich nation. But instead they have chose attack someone who isn't meant to be trifled with. O now I'M making the ignorant info even though I have loads of info to back it up with. Any country you look at will have some part living in "extreme poverty." I don't have to show you Iran's plot b/c they are going to attack. America never lost but I won't go into that. Iran WILL attack....soon
@muffinman9797 You keep claiming they just love to attack Israel and risk the lives of their communities by doing so. "Free and rich"? That's already been given to the settlements. Loads of info? From AIPAC or FOX? The whole country is filled with it, and it's thanks to Israel. Like I said, please don't hold your breath because it won't happen. The Persians just want a clean energy supply.
@DuxImperator LOOK, I'm not claiming that Gaza is all bad. I'm saying that terrorist groups are hiding out and firing missiles at Israel. And with radical muslims as you know will kill themselves to kill another so they don't care if they die or not. And my loads of info, man I almost never watch FOX. If I do watch the "not weather" I'll watch like NECN to get military news. And hold my breath for what? Iran to attack. Actually I think i could pull that off..literally.Iran Will attack eventually
@muffinman9797 I understand where you're coming from on this. There are groups like Hamas that disgust me and most Palestinians. However, if Israel gave back Palestinian land and stopped terrorizing them, Islamic groups would not be able to take power. Palestinians turn to people like that out of desperation. Well, obviously there is no way for me to prove Iran will attack and there is not way for you to convince me. But time will tell...
@DuxImperator Israel ISN'T terrorizing. They have tried to tell Gaza to stop but they won't. If they let Gaza keep bombing then they'll never stop. And there have been cases that I've read where Palestinians opened fire on Israelis(yes with guns). Trust me the poorest of nations can get weapons snuck in these days. Even with Israels tough security. There could even be Israelis sneaking guns into Gaza who knows. BUT, they NEED to stop constantly firing rockets at Israel, it will only end badly
@muffinman9797 If they were so concerned with being fair to Gaza, those people would not be living in such a dump. Israel, as the more advanced nation, should be the ones beginning negotiations. There is a difference between a poor nation and one that is blockaded and cannot feed its own people. Israel could solve the problem with more civilized diplomacy. But what's the point of arguing who attacked/is attacking first? We are going in around in a big circle, if you haven't noticed...
@DuxImperator And Israel is surrounded by nations that don't like them and have attacked them before. And it's not like you can just up and give loads of aid to people that are firing rockets at you every other day. And Israel blockaded for security reasons and the report said that someone on the ship struck the commando first. From there you don't take any chances. If Israel is constantly being threatened by other nations and surrounded by enemies you HAVE TO protect your nation.
@muffinman9797 Egypt has already bowed to Israel. Iraq was illegally occupied. The other Arabic-speaking nations don't care. It's only idle Persian threats and Hezbollah. The latter is just like Hamas; poorly-funded guerrillas. The only way groups like that can stop is by their own people (ie peace), but Israel is not helping by destroying home after home. If Israel wants peace, the government should listen to the brave members of the Israeli peace faction. They are heroes.
@DuxImperator Egypt hasn't really bowed to Israel. Not to say they are enemies, but they don't have this immense feeling of respect. And the "poorly funded guerrillas" can do ALOT of damage. Remember the PLO. Israel doesn't have terrorist group, or suicide bombers, or any of that. O WAIT, let's see who does PLO(Gaza), Taliban(Afghanistan), Al Qaeda. And who have these people attacked (not Taliban). THAT'S right Israel. But ya know what just let thousands of Jews die, no need to fight back.
@muffinman9797 Egypt collaborates with Israel, out of fear. The Israeli government and horde are the terrorists. Suicide bombings are an act of desperation. Murderous and dishonorable? Of course. However, this is no different from the IDF shooting at kids and firing missiles into crowds to assassinate Hamas leaders, which causes death and pain of countless civilians. And have you ever listened to an actual Palestinian civilian? I hear my zionist friends tell me what you say all the time.
@DuxImperator You know what everyone should be afraid of Israel. Afraid to attack. Why wouldn't you want to be an ally with such a powerful nation. You know nothing about what really goes on. Suicide bombs are an act of radical muslim religion. THIS CRAP ABOUT THE IDF SHOOTING KIDS!!! I'M SURE GAZA HAS SHOT AND BOMBED INNOCENT ISRAELI CHILDREN!!!!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FOR JUST ONE FRICKEN TIME!!! Have you ever listened to an actual Israeli civilian. GOOD FOR YOUR FRIENDS TELL THEM THANK YOU!
@muffinman9797 I hope you are truly ignorant of what Israel does, because no sane person could both know and support their actions. That would be morally disgusting The only incidents of Israeli children attacked was desperate Palestinian terrorism- a last resort. I listen to zionists and their views all the time, but you have yet to answer my question. Have you listened to a Palestinian civilian? And I hope you have fun paying very high for Israel's bombing and invasion of Iran, soon enough.
@DuxImperator You really don't know what really goes on.That Israel ISN'T the monster you think they are.You think it's wrong to defend your land? YOU are the ignorant one who likes to make up info b/c he has none to back it up. They shot children b/c they were desperate? What the heck! That doesn't even add up. So It's OK for Gaza to attack Israel, but not vise versa. And I don't know any Palestinians but the fact is each nation will say the same thing about eachother. Israel will defend!
@muffinman9797 Once again, you never asked for the proof. You're side is the one making the constant accusations (eg Iraq has WMDs and Persia has nukes). The burden of proof is on the one who makes the accusation. That's right, civilians are fired at if they get too close to the occupiers (look at anything filmed in Gaza, for example). It's not okay for Gaza to attack civilians. But Israel isn't helping by taking out their aggression on civilians. "Defend"? Try "occupy".
@DuxImperator The proof I have is that people like HAVE attacked us before and we must be ready. Everyone knows that Iran is making WMD. No, civilians, any of them if Iraq would tell you they LOVE the soldiers. (I have a friend in Iraq) And if we think there are WMD, Why not go, that's right we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feeling, just let them make them then fire them at us no big. Are you kidding me Israel never wanted to attack Gaza. But you know right just let Gaza fire rockets it's ok
@muffinman9797 Attacked the US? When did Palestinians do that? Better yet, when did Iraq do that? Israel, a country with more than 200 nuclear warheads, has no proof. Why NOT go? Because it will cause the deaths of thousands of people (most likely your friend too) and well as disrespecting the sovereignty of another nation, all out of paranoia. Israel has been holding their apartheid and ethnically cleansing their neighbors since the forties.
@DuxImperator Iraq didn't attack but there are enemies hiding out there. Palestine has links to terrorists which makes them a threat. You seem to really not care that YOU could be attacked by a terrorist and that the US has no enemies. And we should be sending troops there to find out enemies and capture them. Besides there is footage EVERYWHERE that Iraqis LOVE US soldiers. They like that we are there b/c we are keeping the common people safe.Once we pull out it will desert storm all over again
@muffinman9797 Enemies hiding there? Sadam hated medieval Islamic ideology, like that of Al Qaeda. And Hamas' Islamism does not account for the people, just like Israel's terrorist state does not account for all Israelis. I'm not denying that there is a resistance movement in Iraq, but is that surprising? Someone invaded their nation. The US kept the people safe? Like stealing oil and destabilizing the government? The latter is causing the rise of Islamic groups, by the way.
@DuxImperator We didn't invade there land we kicked there tormentors out! YES the US is keeping people safe(even I don't fully agree with it). It's just like Somalia, we sent troops in with food/supplies and the famine and alot of the violence went away. Then we pulled out and it came back. And for you to say we are stealing oil is laughable, the fact that we spend so much for it makes you look kinda dumb. Like I said you make up info. and then laugh at others who prove you wrong.
@muffinman9797 The US invaded and chose who they thought should rule, not who the Iraqi people wanted. The Iraqi people loved their dictator, contrary to neocon propaganda. The people should choose for themselves. Somalia is a different story. Iraq never suffered from intense poverty (despite US sanctions) like Somalia. Americans spending a lot on oil means virtually nothing. Think Iran in the 30's-50's. And tell me what I'm making up, please. You're telling me about fictional wars of antiquity.
@DuxImperator The Iraqi people LOVE the US and what they have done. Look ANYWHERE about this an you will find that Iraqis LOVE US soldiers. And the Iraqi people loved there dictator b/c they tore down his statue,stomped on it then thanked the US. I'd love to here how you back this up. Find any place that talks about how the Iraqis loved Saddam(FAKE). The US buying oil means EVERYTHING! We spend so much on oil instead of using our own. We are giving money to our enemies. You should be happy
@muffinman9797 Like who? The rational commanders of the US military would have left if it wasn't for zionists and neocon warhawks like you. If there were such logical reasons to be there, the public would know. If you only did this for 20 minutes a day, why is do I end up responding twice (more before I got so busy) daily? You're only 15, and have your mind set on dying for the extremist cause of a foreign nation? I can only hope the best for you (and that doesn't mean more dead Iraqis).
@DuxImperator I'm not going to be on the computer for like a month but here's the link to your role model murderer the video is called gas attack on the halabja (read comments) and read about anywhere there is NO way for you to avoid this truth.
@muffinman9797 Perhaps there was a vicious attack on a Kurdish town. Perhaps Iraq, like Israel, used excessive force on these Kurds and their Persian allies (almost reminiscent of Dresden and Nuremberg). But do you think Washington was interested in that, when they sent thousands of your countrymen to their deaths?
I want to remind you that I am not a leftist. I'm very much against Marxism (like Saddam). I believe every nation should rule itself, and have respect for nationalism and patriotism.
@DuxImperator Yup and Saddam MURDERED. But I guess he's still your hero. YES that is another reason the US went in, again we went in their to STOP what was happening. And a gas attack of 10,000 is a good way to attract the US. Sent thousands to their death. Do you even know how many were killed in desert storm. There were only at max 400 COUNTING the other nations that helped the US.Where do you get your info, whenever I try to look up something you believe it almost never comes up with anything
@muffinman9797 Do you condemn Roosevelt or Churchill for murdering civilians (when they didn't have to) during WWII (Dresden, Nuremberg, Japan)? And was it any of the US's business? No. And give me an example of these "non-existant" facts. if you recall, you're the one who made up such well-known events like the "War for the Holy Land" that erased the Phoenician right to the area.
@DuxImperator Do you understand warfare! Innocent WILL die it's IMPOSSIBLE to avoid. And do you know what Germany did to England at one point, they nearly turned an entire city into dust with their air force. So your saying England doesn't have the right to fight back! You sicken me. And it became the US business when Japan attacked us! And your fake info= the US steals oil, thousands died in desert storm, Gaza doesn't have weapons, the US murders in Iraq, Saddam didn't murder, so much more.
@muffinman9797 But that is no excuse for Israel to be so indiscriminate. The "Battle of Britain" was nothing compared to Dresden and Nuremberg (let alone Japan). England did have a right after that, but the bombings happened after the UK declared war on Germany. And what right did the US have to stop everyone who traded with Japan. That triggered Pearl Harbor. I never said anything about Desert Storm. And I also said Gaza's weapons are nothing compared to what the zionists claim…
@DuxImperator You are really really retarded. The people there LOVE us. Did you look up US soldiers training Iraqi police. We are there to stop the people who are mudering innocent Iraqis. THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRAINING THERE POLICE!!!!!! So THERE POLICE can stop the terrorism on there own people. OK!!!!!!!!
@muffinman9797 I love how there are more insults than facts in your comments. I know they train local police. That means virtually nothing, as everyone in a war-torn country needs to find a way to feed their families. Murdering innocent Iraqis? The whole point of the resistance isn't to kill their countrymen, but to end the occupation. They are unorganized, but I doubt they will give up anytime soon.
@DuxImperator Israel is discriminate even though many people are anti-semite. Just b/c the bombing happened after they declared war proves nothing. Germany was a murderous nation and Europe WANTED and needed the US to help them.Or else Hitler would have taken over ALL of Europe.And Japan attacked us.Did you know that after that thousands of Americans started to join the military b/c they knew we were going to war.And you said "send thousands of countrymen to there death" relating to desert storm
@muffinman9797 Whatever Germany did, that does not justify Israel's treatment of their neighbors. The Israeli attitude toward the Palestinians mirrors that of the German attitude towards the Jews in the 1930's and 1940's, which is terribly ironic. Even if Europe did want the US's help, they certainly did not want the Americanization that lasts to this day. I said it about the war in Iraq in general (more so the Iraq War than the almost as ridiculous Gulf War), not specifically "Desert Storm".
@DuxImperator I never said it "justifies" anything. This is an example of you making stuff up. And I don't hear about Israel killing millions of Palestinians and putting them concentration camps do you? If you think so show me proof. And Americanization? What are you talking about we let Europe deal with most of their issues. So to say something like that is illogical. And the ridiculous Gulf War. O I get it your upset b/c they stopped your little murder friend Saddam, what a shame we helped.
@muffinman9797 Cultural "Americanization", much of which resulting from NATO and American bases in Europe. Upset? Personally, I find the whole farce hilarious (and perhaps tragic for all the young American men who died in vain). And when did "murder" become an adjective?
@DuxImperator What you think because of Americanization Europe doesn't like us? Might want to rethink that. Honestly people are jealous of all our freedom. So they just don't like us. No one ever likes the king of the mountain and we just so happen to be(even though we saved Europe's ass twice). People who constantly mock the US like you should just leave and stop bothering us. And are you saying WW2 soldiers died in vain? That's heart breaking to hear if that's the case. Sorry they died for you
@muffinman9797 “Jealous of all our freedom”? Hahahahahahahahahaha. American exportation (especially American media) is leading to degeneracy and laziness. I love your advice, seriously, please give me more. I was referring to Iraq, not WWII, although that is quite a debate for another day.
@DuxImperator Are you saying if you lived in a 3rd world country you and you knew what the US is like you wouldn't be jealous. Why do you think SO MANY people are sneaking over the boarder. So I'm right they ARE jealous.And if you want some advice,LEAVE THE US, all you do is bitch about it and mock it. Are you just trying to get attention like a 6 year old autistic child? Maybe so. And NONE of our soldiers have died in vain.But I would expect you to down US soldiers who give their life for yours
@muffinman9797 There is a difference between being envious of material goods and hating someone ideologically. So, you think Al-Qaeda chose to attack New York because they wanted iPods and big houses? It’s much more complicated than that. Are you just trying to get attention on the internet like the 15 year old child you are? Maybe so. They all died in vain in Iraq, and that should make anyone regret such a useless war.
@muffinman9797 And "off track"? I’m trying to be efficient with my commenting, because there is a character limit. Lying to myself? Wow… Please send a link about the sinister plan to bomb Israel (the one that may justify millions of deaths in Iran).
@DuxImperator Hahahaha you have been proven wrong AGAIN. This just shows that I can show you ALOT of my info on video-type in"Power up! Russia to start Iran's 1st nuclear plant next week", I would LOVE to see how you back this up. This just shows that Iran is making plans to attack Israel. And yes you do go off track.It's not my fault you have almost no proof to back up most of what you say.This is to easy for me you say "send me proof" and then I do. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA aaaa this is fun
@muffinman9797 They want nuclear power. Even Henry Kissinger knew that (look that up, but it won't be on FOX). France uses nuclear power everywhere, but does that mean they are planning to attack the US? You're the one making the accusations of Iran's sinister and evil plan to attack Israel. The burden of proof is always on the accuser.
@DuxImperator I know they want nuclear power. But do you know that before you said they DIDN'T. No but France isn't a terroristic nation. We've never had problems with them. But we have had problems with Iran. They don't like the US b/c we are infedals and support Israel. They are a dangerous nation. And I may be making the accusations but I have yet to see you back them up. But Iran has already made threats to Israel NOW they nuclear power. Put the pieces together I know you smarter than this.
@muffinman9797 I never said that. Ahmadinejad has been saying this for years. They don't like the US because of their useless foreign wars and support for the TERRORIST nation of Israel. Hahahahaha back up your accusations? If Iran hates all non-Muslim countries, why isn't their relationship with Europe so tense? That's right, Europe doesn't tend to aid the terrorist state of Israel or start useless and damaging wars.
@DuxImperator YES YOU DID! Don't lie man.You always said stuff like "show me Iran's sinister nuclear power plant" and stuff like that.If you don't believe me look back at what YOU said. It just goes to show you really aren't able to back it up. That would be like me saying"I never said Saddam murdered."Seriously. And look at how much Islam is growing in Europe.And no one has attacked terrorists the same way the US has.And terrorist state,last I checked they weren't crashing planes. So keep it up
@muffinman9797 "Sinister"! I was using a literary device to imply it's a plant for nuclear weapons. Crashing planes into buildings isn't the only way to commit terrorist acts. And most of European leaders are Europeans. Despite the unfortunate invasion of Europe by immigrants, the nations of Europe are not Islamic (at least not yet). So to argue that the Persians are on good terms with Europe because of the immigration is kind of silly.
@DuxImperator Not only that you said they have NO nuclear weapons. NOTHING! You and I both know what you said. I don't care what your saying now you aren't able to take back something you said. And crashing planes is an overview. Israel isn't terrorizing unless they have ROCKETS fired on them. And I wasn't saying it's relationship is AWESOME! But they get along with them BETTER b/c of their views. And Europe thinks this war is useless (they weren't attacked) and that no one is doing anything.
@muffinman9797 You’re funny kid. I looked back at what I said, and there was no contradiction. So if a weak little rocket is fired at them, they have the right to destroy and whole village, or fire weapons of their own at a crowd because a Hamas leader was among them? The Basques did not attack the US or Europe. We’ve been over this one too many times.
@DuxImperator BTW, I like being a warhawk. You like being ignorant. The public doesn't know b/c it doesn't happen that much. I know IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! Israel is a bunch of murderers.Try being an Israel soldier. Name one war where civilians weren't killed on both sides.The US killed civilians,Germany,Italy,England,the list goes on.What now EVERY country is a bunch of murderers. And I only an average of the time.Why does that matter to you so much? Run of out PROOF. And I'm SET stop making stuff up.
@muffinman9797 Ignorant? Does standing up for the weak and voiceless count as "ignorance"? The IDF kills indiscriminately, much more so than anyone else. Even your friends in Iraq do not do that to Iraqi civilians. Israel does not need to do so, and it can be easily avoid doing this. You ask me to back my arguments up? You have yet to question a specific fact I have "made up". Please, do so. And look what you neocons did by not backing up the WMD claim. Thousands of Americans died in vain, sadly
@DuxImperator And yes I know what kind of thing the IDF has done.Yes I don't agree with it all, but I'm not in there situation am I. I don't have to worry about going into a dangerous area b/c my country ordered me to.And Gaza is making missiles in Gaza(look it up don't ask me for a link).And If haven't answered I'm quite sorry ask it again please. But ya you do make up alot of your info.And SORRY, HEY EVERYONE THE US MADE A MISTAKE! Forget the US it's not like they've helped anyone. Yeah right!
@muffinman9797 Are you defending Eichmann's "I was following orders" charge? If Israel wasn't in someone else's land (including the settlements), the Palestinians would have more respect and less hatred for the Israelis. Please, tell me my "made up" facts, and I will back them up. The US has made mistakes, and to deny that is a bit naive, even for someone on the so-called American "right".
@DuxImperator Noone even kicked them out of the land. Britain offered it to them b/c BRITAIN conquered it. I already told you a few but here are some more-the US would welcome invaders, Iran has NO nuclear power plant or nuclear related things, and the US had no right to fight in WW2 even though Japan attacked us. So take that and go do something about it. And I said the US DID make a mistake. Again MAKING UP STUFF. And naive hahaha your the one that makes up stuff. Back up what I said. Please.
@muffinman9797 1948 Nakba or "exodus" (Wikipedia even has an article on it). Iran has nuclear plants for nuclear POWER (which is an efficient power source). Having a "right" to attack is not a fact. Sanctions are damaging, as they were for Japan in the 1930's. It's a well-known fact that the US placed sanctions on Japan. As we saw with pre-war Iraq, sanctions can cause heavy damage to one's economy. But keep up the accusations of "MAKING UP STUFF". I'd love to hear it all.
@DuxImperator Yes Iran HAS a nuclear power plant and before you said they DIDN'T, case closed. And what does Japan have to do with Iran. I proved you WRONG about Iran, what you want to change the subject fine with me. And the right to attack? What are you talking about? Japan,Iran,Israel? Which one. And don't worry I'll keep up the accusations, did you ask someone on the street if they would let someone invade/takeover the US. No b/c you would look like a fool. So go do something with that.
@muffinman9797 I said they didn't have WEAPONS. There is a HUGE difference. Proved me wrong? Is this your sense of humor? Look like a fool? It's neocon idiots like you that make your whole country look foolish. That's why there's so much hostility towards the US nowadays (and please spare me the "they hate our freedom" BS).
@DuxImperator NO. You said they had NO nuclear access AT ALL. I'm sorry but I'm not the one who said it. Is this your sense of humor lying about something you said. LOOK BACK at what you previously said, IT'S THERE. I'm the idiot. You praise Saddam, say US would welcome invaders,deny what you said,say things with no proof to back them up,and say the Gulf War was pointless. Talk about sheer stupidity. You say this crap THEN lie are you scared. And what, we should be nice and talk to murderers now
@DuxImperator AND HOW DARE YOU! Saying "most likely your friend", you are such a coward. You and your fascist kind that just get together and make up philosophy about what should happen. When you do NOTHING. You have know idea the sacrifice our soldiers make so that you can live freely. People like you run when there is war b/c you think it is unjust only b/c you are to cowardly. Why don't you stop honoring someone who killed are soldiers and thank them for the hell they've gone through.
He was not that bad of a person. He taught the u.s a lesson they will never forget. The U.S is an unstoppable imperial force.
Canadianloyalist123 2 weeks ago
People are sick
11fragrance 1 month ago
HOW CAN YOU MAKE A TRIBUTE TO HIM??????
USN276 2 months ago
@mrorville1 Yea America isnt perfect never said that. But whos gonna come save Canada when they really need help? Your oviously pretty stupid because a comment like that would prove so. Im not hear to argue with an angry Canadian tryna be sweet. Fact is to people who are normal, somebody like Sadam doent deserve a tribute video, he was fucked up period end of story you cant argue he was a fucked up dude.Yes i know america does bad shit also but so does everybody in the world. At least we try
412eastside 4 months ago
@mrorville1 How do you even know i am American? Your stupid. imagine a world where everyone is like Sadam. You would be begging to have him killed after he tortured and killed your whole family. You dont know anything about America, people beg for our help then when we help they bitch. If it wasnt for America there would be a lot of good things missing from the earth. Oviously America isnt perfect, but at least we try to do something.
412eastside 5 months ago
rest in peace baby ;(
DesertMooseONLYCHILD 9 months ago
المجد للعراق...... والعزاء لراشد علي الغيلاني وصدام حسين
3anternet 1 year ago
No weapons of mass destruction on Iraqi soil,americans come for their oil...
Tetragrammaification 1 year ago 2
saddam you pig eventhough your ugly but you did well killing people hahahahaha you silly nerd
anan000000 1 year ago
i love saddam
thellionn 1 year ago
Rest in piss you cocksucking raghead!
kingben821 1 year ago
@kingben821 hahahaha nice one
anan000000 1 year ago
@rawez94 FUCK YOU YOU KURDA BASTARD HE IS A TRUE LION ! EVEN YOU WOULDNT HAVE STOOD ON THE STAND LIKE THAT YOU FUCKING POOR KURDISTANI MOTHER FUCKER IF WE WERE FACE TO FACE I WOULD HAVE SHOVED MY COCK INTO YOUR EYE AND PISSED INSIDE YOUR MOUTH YOU FUCKING DIRTY KURDY! SADDAM WAS THE ONLY PERSON READY TO IGHT AGAINST THE AMERICAN JEWS AND THESE CRUSADERS! AND YOU ARE ONE OF THE HIPICROTES OF THIS WORLD WHO BACKSTAB AT ANY CHANCE ! I WILL FUCK YOUR SISTER AND MOTHER UNTILL BLOOD IS ALL OVER
MustafaLund 1 year ago
@MustafaLund yes....he killed kurds,and he stood against america,but did he suceed? ^^,i think not jackass,and if i would stand face to face with you,i would shove my FIST up your empty skull,
murder is the worst possible thing a man can do,and killing SO many people...is DISGUSTING.
may saddam and all his followers burn in the eternal fires of the hell.
biji kurd biji KURDISTAN
yadgar97 1 year ago
@MustafaLund This man was a dickless coward who killed countless innocents even his own people. He was a piece of shit and thats why his ass was dangling from a noose because he was a piece of dog shit
412eastside 10 months ago
@412eastside VIVA SADDAM
ClubAfricainTunis 9 months ago
@412eastside and how many millions have america killed over the last 50 years...7 millions only in vietnam ??? look it up
micheltariq 7 months ago
Saddam was a hero! BASH SADDAM BASH IRAQ!
SEFARAD2K4 1 year ago
u thinf saddam go to hell hahahahahaha
hffsh 1 year ago
saddam was a good leader, he wanted to crush the saudi royal family because they are scum who work against arabs. saddam , a great ARAB leader.
issareign 1 year ago
Saddan its now with Satan in da hell!!! But Satan dont like competitor!
charlitox1 1 year ago
@charlitox1 u think saddam go to hell hahahahahahaha
hffsh 1 year ago
fuck you arabian madness people!
charlitox1 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Okay, good. That's the first step to sanity. Chapters I and II do not mention an expulsion of the Phoenicians, nor does it mention anything geographical except the Mediterranean, the Jordan and Jericho (which may have fallen, but the Phoenician empire existed until 539 BC, way too late for Joshua's time). You keep accusing me of saying something I never did isn't helping your cause at all (nor are the accusations of me making things up).
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Chapters 1-2 don't. I said 1-12 if I didn't my mistake. And I will keep accusing you of stuff until you back it up which I still have yet to see.And I don't care is THIS isn't "helping my cause." Just trying to show that some of the things you say don't make sense. And If you aren't able to back it up I'm not going to laugh in your face anything. Just showing you that it's incorrect. And the Bible does mention Israel going in to take the land. If I had more room I would explain why
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 YO FAGGOT, SADDAM WAS THE SHIT AND BUSH SUCKED BIG JEW BALLS, YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE FOR ROOTING FOR THE JEWS AND THE ZOG AND ISRAEL, SADDAM WAS ONE OF THE ONLY MEN WHO ACTUALLY HAD HIS SHIT TOGETHER.
PEACE BITCH!
irkenemperor 1 year ago
@irkenemperor So i guess it's ok that he gassed 10,000 kurds, supported 9/11, and murdered many others. So you can support a murder who was despised by him own people, but it's not ok for me to support a nation that was separated for 2,000 year and massacred. I don't think you would have liked him if you lived in Iraq in the 80's you anti-american terrorist faggot.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
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irkenemperor 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 how can you be against something so funny
irkenemperor 1 year ago
@irkenemperor I don't really get what you mean
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Haha like you give a rat’s ass about the Kurds. Supported 9/11? Wow… that’s pathetic. Murdered many others? Please, I’d love to hear this one. “Murder” isn’t a noun! “Despised by him own people”? Your only evidence seems to be the welcoming of the invasion. Would it be right for me to steal your land because 2,000 years ago my people lived there?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Hahaha like you give a rat's ass about the Palestinians you contradictory fascist. I'm pathetic hahah keep 'em coming there funny. I have already showed you video of the Kurds you can look up others Saddam has murdered, even though you probably won't and just continue to ask me. And I guess tearing down a statue isn't enough....how about they HANGED him.But I guess that's not enough either b/c you will just continue to believe he was a great man. And BRITAIN gave to them. You funny
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I do care for the Palestinians (as well as the Iraqis). Why do you think I’ve been going out of my way to defend them this whole time? You’ve only brought up the Kurds to help your argument. You showed me one instance of a village being gassed, nothing else. Once again, these were rebels against the regime, not mainstream Iraqis. He was a hero. Britain gave what?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator And it's called a typo dumb ass! I meant to say murderer. And murder can be used as a noun! There was a murder. You stupid asshole
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 You know what context I meant. And that was the second time you made that mistake.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@irkenemperor lol what?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator The other one was giving reasons for WHY this happened. If you noticed they said "an alternative." So those articles weren't really backing up what you said.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 That sentence made no sentence whatsoever. You wanted proof of depleted money and oil. I gave it to you.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 One must question the Old Testament when it contradicts mainstream history (ie that of the Greeks, Persians, etc). For example, there is significant evidence that the Holy Land was an Egyptian territory in about 1300 BC (approximate time of Moses), nor is there evidence of the conquest of Canaan/Phoenicia by outsiders, or for that matter the alleged slave revolt against Egypt.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator I'm NEVER question the Old Testament. It also contradiction evolution which has been disproved many times.But that's for another day. If there is significance it's probably in another part in the Bible.But Israel was imprisoned for either 400 or 600 years, then were lead to the promised land.B/c God promised them a land. And I'll look for where it talks about the slave revolt. Or ask a pastor or Bible scholar and they will tell you. Looking at the past helps understand the present
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Hahaha are you a creationist? I understand that looking to the past can help us in the present. That’s exactly why we should debate history rather than put 100% of our trust in ancient texts (especially religious ones). Are you just going to ignore big historical contradictions?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
A true nationalist hero! Someone who rejected the barbarianism of his neighbors, and truly loved his people. Instead of suppressing the people of Iraq with brutality, he resurrected their ancient culture and let it flourish. May he rest in peace.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator He gased his own people (the kurds) and crashed planes in to ours. He also killed thousands of others. Are you trying to make people mad at you
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 You sound just like every other confused and misinformed American, convinced that democracy is a flawless and holy concept. Stop listening to the American media and do your own research, please.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Let's get one thing straight, NOTHING is flawless. I just know that freedom has lead America to be the prosperous nation in history not to say it hasn't made mistakes like every other country in the world. I also know that in during saddam's rein I would have rather been in America that in Iraq or Iran. Hussein MURDERED countless people and for some reason you think he let his country "flourish" why do you everyone in irag despises him. do your own research, please
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Yup, keep buying into that story. Does everyone in Iraq despise him? Well, it's not like there is an entire resistance movement fighting against the US occupation...
Americans have been tricked into believing the mass-murder/WMD/Al-Quaeda myth. I do not think you are a malicious person, but you are misguided. The 148 men Saddam did execute were traitors from mullah-occupied Persia ("Iran"). And if you believe Saddam was anything like the mullahs, I don't know what to tell you.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Yup keep buying into your own story. If Hussein didn't murder countless people. The Iraq people wouldn't have torn down his statue and thanked USA. There is NO evidence that he didn't murder thousands. You only believe what you do because every one believes the opposite. Terrorists attacked the US on 9/11, and will continue until we win this war. Hussein DID murder and you have nothing support your because you are an ignoran,t anti-patriotic person who takes his country for granted
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 The Iraqi people "thanked" the US? Since when? Every leader will have factions that are unhappy with him, so a few people tearing a statue down proves nothing. Islamic factions, not secular Ba'athists (like Saddam) attacked on 9/11. The media (and people like you) are the ones who bear the burden of proof, as it is you making these accusations. And don't give me the anti-patriotic BS. I am a nationalist (as well as a former Republican). I do not hate the US, just its ignorance.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Of course they thanked the US. We went in their and stopped a killer. And alot of people tearing proves everything. If Americans tore down a statue of George Bush and someone said to you that proves nothing you would think they're out of their mind. And the burden I bear, is having people like you in America who think that our enemies are heroes for whatever reason. You say America is ignorant but you make such ignorant statements with nothing to back them up with. Saddam=murderer
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 If a foreign army with no pretext to invade did so, and people tear down a statue of the president, that really only says that the (former) government had enemies. But who doesn't? Yes, the US is ignorant because it chose to attack a country that virtually nothing to do with Al Qaeda. And those who make ludicrous allegations (ie Saddam had WMDs - this remains unproven) still bear the burden of proof. And don't you know that the victors are the ones that right the history books?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 And "nothing to back them up"? Umm, you're the one supporting the people who accused Ba'athist Iraq of having WMDs and having links to Al Qaeda. As we know by know, both turned out to be false. Saddam died for his nation, as well as the secular nationalist cause. He cared about his people; Iraqis and Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites. When the US murdered that hero, they only enabled Islamic groups like Al Qaeda from causes more havoc in the region. The US attacked the wrong people.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator I have way more to back up my information than you do. There was nothing wrong with us going in there. and looking for WMD. If we hadn't people today would still be thinking "what if they do have WMD, are they going to attack us." Because we went in there now we didn't have to be afraid. When you say Saddam "died" for his nation you better mean hanged by his own people. The US didn't kill him we found him and handed him over to the Iraqis. Saddam murdered the kurds he didnt care.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 So suspicion of WMNDs justifies the death of thousands of Americans and Iraqis? "His own people"? Like I said earlier; an active leader always has enemies. If a foreign army handed over Obama to the Tea Party, them killing him would not represent the whole US. And like you or the US government give a rat's ass about the Kurds (or Iraqis). The only Kurds who fought against Saddam were the separatists/leftists. Most Kurds accepted Ba'athism as an alternative to an Islamist regime.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator America never attacked the wrong people. We were called upon to help like every war for the past few decades and we did and yet people still mock us for doing that. EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE WE SAVED. I'm not saying the US hasn't made mistakes but most of what we have done has been for bettering the nation or continent we were in. Vietnam,Europe twice ,Korea and so on. Saddam was terrorizing Kuwait and Iran and went in stop him murdering people. We stopped a murder, NOT KILLED, stopped
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 You actually believe that the US government went into Iraq to save the Iraqi people and their neighbors?! That's not even what they claimed to be doing when the invasion was launched. They went in because of Saddam's (unproven) connection to bin Laden, under the pretext of Saddam having WMDs. It isn't the US's business anyway, to judge who can have certain weapons. Besides, if the US were to invade any country in the Middle East that terrorizes the innocent, why not invade Israel?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator WOW. Were do you get your information. During Desert storm we went in to drive Saddam out of Kuwait and then tried to establish a REAL government in Iraq. And if we think someone might attack us with WMD it is our business to go in and stop it. As for Israel, man what are talking about there are last good country remaining in the middle east. Israel never attacked anyone. Everyone else keeps trying to attack Israel. Iran,6 day war, Yom Kippur.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 More like a puppet government! What right does the US have determining who is legitimate in the Middle East? Why is it right for the US to simply use other governments? The United States Funded the Taliban during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. Perhaps the US thought they were the "real" government of Afghanistan? If you were a true American patriot, you would see that thousands of young Americans dying for trivial and misguided causes is wrong. Oh and Israel...
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Plus you have to put your self in the position of Israel. There are circled in with countrys that want to destroy them. They are just trying to defend themselves. Say you were in massive firefight and had to kill the enemy no matter what. But in the process you killed some kids by mistake. That wasn't you intention but it just happened. When the US funded the Taliban It was because they were being invaded by russia for no reason, and they came across as the good guys.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Trust me, I used to be a Republican and a supporter of Israel. The Israeli Army does not have to kill as many civilians as they do every year. Israeli soldiers are legally allowed to occupy Palestinian homes whenever they want. How would you feel if that constantly happened to you? And if Israel truly wants the Two-State solution, why does it allow settlers on the West Bank? If the US truly believes its ideals of freedom and tolerance, it would not support such a brutal entity.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator And in a sense Israel did have it's way in the 6 day war. They may have attacked first but everyone knew syria, jordan, and egypt were going to attack them. Again put yourself in the position of an Israeli,how would you feel in this situation. Israel has to keep defending themselves, what do you want them to do let people attack them. Plus after the 6 day war was over they gave back the sinai peninsula to egypt just because. Israel isn't terrorizing anyone.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Presumptions always lead to trouble when it comes to global power politics. I used to know their situation well enough. I used to be on your side, which is why I have sympathy for you. Israel murdered nine people on a ship bringing aid to starving people in Gaza- one of which was an American citizen (once in the chest, four times in the head, according to the Israeli autopsy). How did Israel get away with it? What would you do if commandos boarded your ship illegally like that...
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Alright, Israel blockaded Gaza b/c people sending weapons to Gaza so they could attack Israel. The ship entered as unauthorized danger. They sent commandos to check it out to see if it was a danger. From what was said one of the people on the ship pulled out a gun FIRST and the commandos were forced to fire. The commandos didn't board it illegally, that's like saying that if Iran had a ship a few hundred miles off the coast of MA and we boarded it. Israeli did nothing wrong
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 You really think peace activists are going to risk everything by smuggling weapons? These were international waters, so who is Israel to decide whether they have a right to be in international waters. If the Turk did pull out a gun, I would be surprised. I would be frightening if commandos illegally boarded my ship. He probably didn't fire first anyway. Israel murdered nine people trying to feed starving people- one of which was an AMERICAN citizen just like Rachel Corrie.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator They DID NOT board it illegally. They felt threatened b/c people have smuggling weapons to Palestine. All Israel did was blockade Palestine. Blockade a section of THEIR land, you have to understand how threatened Israel must feel with nations that are constantly taunting them with weapons, big or small it doesn't matter how big it is if it can murder. People attack Israel first, you why Israel attacks back so hard. To remind their enemies to never attack Israel.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 "Big weapons"? Tell me, how many nukes does Israel have? Oh yeah, I forgot: IT'S A SECRET. What does that tell us. And so, a few lame qassam rockets gives Israel the right to do things like dump white phosphorus, killing men, women and children, in addition to all of their other dishonorable acts. In fact, Israel is the only legitimate government in the Middle East to attack the US. But of course, you cannot understand that. Supporting an indigenous people is not unpatriotic.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator You know what that tells me. It's secret so that when Iran attacks Israel FIRST, Israel can nuke them in the next dimension. There are so many countries that want to nuke Israel, and Israel is keeping it a secret to keep their enemies scared. Yes and few lame rocket (that murder) do give Israel the right to bomb Palestine. Israel is trying to send a message saying "STOP ATTACKING US." If people just stopped attacking Israel that would be the end. But no....they are that stupid
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 We can't even prove that Iran is making weapons. They signed the NPT with full inspections and Israel doesn't. Yet they are sanctioned. So in order to send a message, you starve poor indigenous people and dump white phosphorus on them. Tell me, if there were no more murderous attacks, settlements or checkpoints, why would Palestinians attack? Every pole has indicated that they want the Two-State Solution. But Israel, who has the power to make this possible, never does. Explain.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator If I saw my brothers in arms or family turn into just separated body parts I would become very trigger happy: ) And we basically can prove that they don't have WMD but are in the making. Ahmadinejad has said he wants to destroy Israel. And when Iran attacks I think that will settle it. And yes that is a way to send a message, (you think Gaza would have gotten it by now) and Israel isn't starving Palestine as much as you think they are cutting off supply lines for weapons to Gaza.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Check the statistics. Palestinian CIVILIANS- men, woman and children, are brutally murdered by the IDF. It's not a romantic tail of vengeful civilians. It's just ordinary soldiers being told their duty. The stereotypical terrorist attacks are done by the Zionists, anyway. Deir Yassin, King David Hotel, Balad al-Shaykh, not to mention all of the times settlers attack Palestinian villages and set their fields and forests on fire. How are the settlements fair?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Well here's what I've been saying from the start Gaza should STOP attacking Israel FIRST, dont say your retarded "rocks and missiles" it murders. And if Gaza is attacking Israel again and again and again then Israel is going to have to take 2 eyes for an eye. Palestine has know right to keep attacking Israel. Palestine fired the first shot so Israel is going to finish it. What you want Israel to just let their enemies attack them and not do anything. NO, Israel will finish this war
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 It is Israel that fired the first shots- they invaded another people's land. It's Israel that commits the great massacres. It's Israel that has the power to stop the settlements and make the two-state solution possible. It's Israel that has the power. If Israel acted humanely like the West, violence would cease on the other side. Trust me. Every Western country knows that victimizing a less fortunate people is inhuman. Why doesn't anyone hold the barbarians to this standard?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator If Israel ever "masssacers" its b/c countries attack them first, except for the 6 day war b/c they knew they going to be attacked. How can say Israel is the terrorist force, when you have the PLO, Al quida, the Taliban and just other enemies that attack Israel. Throughout history countries have despised Israel much of it b/c Jesus was from Israel. Jesus was the one persecuted (just like Israel), for doing nothing even Pilot said I find no fault in this man.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@DuxImperator People don't hold Israel to this b/c they aren't barbarians. Have you ever heard of them hijacking planes, or using suicide bombs, or trying to actually conquer other nations. NO it's b/c everyone else attacks Israel. And why would Israel want to make a two state solution when their land is already as small as it is. If you here about Israel "massacering" anyone it's b/c that nation attacked Israel first.And Israel is the only country that is willing to invade for self defense
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 The Israeli barbarians don't have to do cheap terrorist attacks like hijacking because they have the means to do it "legally" (although they constantly break international law). And yes, they've been conquering another nation since the forties. If a nation has so many enemies and so many people sympathize with the persecuted, they're is probably something wrong they are doing. I just can't believe a sentient being could support these atrocities.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator the US has just as many enemies as Israel does, but that doesn't make them an evil country. It means people are jealous of what we have. Israel doesn't just send troops to conquer other nations. They don't go out and fight other peoples war like the US has. They keep themselves and want to left alone. Why do think Israel keeps attacking. B/c Palestine attacks them FIRST. And in WAR if someone attacks you FIRST, anything goes. Even with war "rules" not everyone will keep them.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 There is no such thing as evil. Israel is barbaric, but "evil" is just a word that justifies war. The IDL has already conquered a nation and its people. And the "Palestinians attack them first" logic is silly. Why would a people that suffer so much poverty attack a powerful and brutal nation for no reason? It all started with the eviction of the Palestinian people from their land. Even after the UK left, Israel kept expanding. So Israel fired the first shot and continues today.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator If think there is no such thing as evil your in denial. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini. You saying what these people did wasn't evil. Israel moved in under the UK's permission they didn't come in unannounced. Yes Israel moved in but Palestine attacked first by killing jews. The Palestinians aren't indigenous anymore. B/c Israel came in they were forced to modernize. And YES they are hiding weapons all sorts any country now a day can-somalia,yemen, you name it they can get it easily
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 It's all about understanding your enemy. That doesn't mean you cannot attack him, but labeling things as "evil" is only propaganda. And Palestinians are the indigenous people, in the same way the American Indians are in the US. Palestinians, especially in Gaza, cannot modernize because supplies, spare parts and even electricity are not allowed to be brought in. People there rely on poor-quality generators for the most part. Oh, I'm so sure they have so many weapons. Poor Israel!
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Why would Gaza attack Israel b/c they don't like them (PLO). And why would Israel give away how many nukes they have that's like telling criminals that you have guns in your house so now they know that they should bring one to kill you. If Palestine wants Israel to stop attacking them then Palestine should surrender and leave Israel alone. And the two state solution, why would Israel want to give away their land that's like if you live in TX and then it was given to mexico.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Their land? How would you feel if you were living peacefully, on you land and out of nowhere settlers showed up. With the help of a stronger people, they move you away. Wave after wave of people push you out, claiming "God gave us this land". Now you are confined to a few spots of what was your land, and you think it's over. Well, here comes more people who tell you about their "God-given right". They build houses in your yard and torch your fields. How would you feel about that?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator First of all it was England's decision to allow Israel to settle. Second there was hardly anything there mostly farm country and Israel came and modernized it. They didn't conquer it or start communising it or making it fascist or anything they just came in. The Palestiniens didn't have to leave. Israel never harmed anyone there they just moved in. Plus they had just been massacered by Hitler. Where else were they going to regroup?
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I never said it wasn't the English. The indigenous people were evicted. Just because Jews were persecuted and imprisoned by Germany does give them the right to steal someone else's land. For a people that were forced to leave their own land by the Babylonians, the Jews should know that it isn't good to evict people from their land.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Another thing that isn't discussed enough is that Israel and Palestine have been at war for thousands of years. They have always been fighting it goes back to David and Goliath. Israel was being attacked by Palestine and had to defend themselves. Like now. They didn't push the people off the land. If Palestine had cooperated and be kind to Israel Gaza would be a very rich country with support from all around. But no they just keep attacking Israel. And Israel will always fight back
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 You don't think Israel is Goliath; the large and more powerful of the two? Palestine fights without Western technology, often using primitive weapons like slings. Israel has billions of dollars worth of weaponry. So eviction and encouraging settlements (a broken promise) is not pushing people of their land? Israel has been initiating attacks since the 1940s! And the INDIGENOUS people shouldn't need to bow down to a racist tyrant. Come on, I know you are smarter than this.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator No i don't think Israel is Goliath b/c um he died. They are david b/c they will always win, they are attacked first and many people mock them. Dude if you were half informed with what technology is these days you would know that Gaza has stashes of all kinds of weapons. From ak-47s to stinger missiles, to grenades and the list goes on, come on I know know your smarter than his. If all Gaza was doing was throwing rocks it wouldn't be in the news. But they murder which is in the news
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I am not talking about who wins or loses, I am talking about national character- Palestinian David vs. the Israeli Goliath. And you believe the zionist lie that Palestinians all keep AKs under their beds (an exaggeration). It is Israel that has the WMDs, rockets and guns, not Palestine or Saddam or the Persians. The reason I can see past zionism's lies is because I used to believe them all. And as for throwing rock- yes, Palestinians are arrested for that too. Even children.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Everyone knows that Palestine has weapons that 's why Israel keeps attacking, and that's why they blockaded b/c Turkey was sending weapons to Gaza. If Turkey wasn't sending weapons then Israel wouldn't have done anything. Why doesn't Israel go and wipe off Gaza off the face of the earth. B/c Israel is the good guy, and that will never change. If Israel was so corrupt they wouldn't treat their people the way they do. And if Gaza keeps attacking they wont last long...wait and see
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Wow! You actually believe that the Turks give them weapons? Israel doesn't nuke Gaza because it would cross the line for the UN. "Good guys" don't murder civilians. They aren't corrupt, just ethnocentric and barbaric. You think people who live in fear, unemployment and extreme poverty are planning on attacking the Israeli oppressors? With what? The imaginary WMDs they're hiding? And you're holding your breath for the murder and destruction of an entire people? That's unfortunate.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator That's why Israel blockaded it the first place! You think Israel is trying to stop food from getting to Palestine, TALK ABOUT IGNORANCE. You can deny the truth as long as you want but in the end you'll realize that Israel is the good guy. Israel bombs the people who have been been firing missiles at them first. It's that simple. Palestine won't deny attacking Israel and won't stop either. You have NOTHING to back up your info with, BUT I DO. Palestine attacks Israel and won't win
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 They are systematically starving the Palestinian people. You're the one making the ignorant allegations. Show me Iran's sinister plan to bomb poor Israel. And do pictures of murdered children and bombed hospitals suffice? How about photos of families living in extreme poverty? I have plenty of proof to back my words. And you seem to forget that the victor is not always a "good guy". What about Vietnam? The Viet Cong won there, but do you think they were good? I'm sure you don't.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator They aren't starving anyone. Palestine has starved themselves of what could have a free and rich nation. But instead they have chose attack someone who isn't meant to be trifled with. O now I'M making the ignorant info even though I have loads of info to back it up with. Any country you look at will have some part living in "extreme poverty." I don't have to show you Iran's plot b/c they are going to attack. America never lost but I won't go into that. Iran WILL attack....soon
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 You keep claiming they just love to attack Israel and risk the lives of their communities by doing so. "Free and rich"? That's already been given to the settlements. Loads of info? From AIPAC or FOX? The whole country is filled with it, and it's thanks to Israel. Like I said, please don't hold your breath because it won't happen. The Persians just want a clean energy supply.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator LOOK, I'm not claiming that Gaza is all bad. I'm saying that terrorist groups are hiding out and firing missiles at Israel. And with radical muslims as you know will kill themselves to kill another so they don't care if they die or not. And my loads of info, man I almost never watch FOX. If I do watch the "not weather" I'll watch like NECN to get military news. And hold my breath for what? Iran to attack. Actually I think i could pull that off..literally.Iran Will attack eventually
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I understand where you're coming from on this. There are groups like Hamas that disgust me and most Palestinians. However, if Israel gave back Palestinian land and stopped terrorizing them, Islamic groups would not be able to take power. Palestinians turn to people like that out of desperation. Well, obviously there is no way for me to prove Iran will attack and there is not way for you to convince me. But time will tell...
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Israel ISN'T terrorizing. They have tried to tell Gaza to stop but they won't. If they let Gaza keep bombing then they'll never stop. And there have been cases that I've read where Palestinians opened fire on Israelis(yes with guns). Trust me the poorest of nations can get weapons snuck in these days. Even with Israels tough security. There could even be Israelis sneaking guns into Gaza who knows. BUT, they NEED to stop constantly firing rockets at Israel, it will only end badly
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 If they were so concerned with being fair to Gaza, those people would not be living in such a dump. Israel, as the more advanced nation, should be the ones beginning negotiations. There is a difference between a poor nation and one that is blockaded and cannot feed its own people. Israel could solve the problem with more civilized diplomacy. But what's the point of arguing who attacked/is attacking first? We are going in around in a big circle, if you haven't noticed...
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator And Israel is surrounded by nations that don't like them and have attacked them before. And it's not like you can just up and give loads of aid to people that are firing rockets at you every other day. And Israel blockaded for security reasons and the report said that someone on the ship struck the commando first. From there you don't take any chances. If Israel is constantly being threatened by other nations and surrounded by enemies you HAVE TO protect your nation.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Egypt has already bowed to Israel. Iraq was illegally occupied. The other Arabic-speaking nations don't care. It's only idle Persian threats and Hezbollah. The latter is just like Hamas; poorly-funded guerrillas. The only way groups like that can stop is by their own people (ie peace), but Israel is not helping by destroying home after home. If Israel wants peace, the government should listen to the brave members of the Israeli peace faction. They are heroes.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Egypt hasn't really bowed to Israel. Not to say they are enemies, but they don't have this immense feeling of respect. And the "poorly funded guerrillas" can do ALOT of damage. Remember the PLO. Israel doesn't have terrorist group, or suicide bombers, or any of that. O WAIT, let's see who does PLO(Gaza), Taliban(Afghanistan), Al Qaeda. And who have these people attacked (not Taliban). THAT'S right Israel. But ya know what just let thousands of Jews die, no need to fight back.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Egypt collaborates with Israel, out of fear. The Israeli government and horde are the terrorists. Suicide bombings are an act of desperation. Murderous and dishonorable? Of course. However, this is no different from the IDF shooting at kids and firing missiles into crowds to assassinate Hamas leaders, which causes death and pain of countless civilians. And have you ever listened to an actual Palestinian civilian? I hear my zionist friends tell me what you say all the time.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator You know what everyone should be afraid of Israel. Afraid to attack. Why wouldn't you want to be an ally with such a powerful nation. You know nothing about what really goes on. Suicide bombs are an act of radical muslim religion. THIS CRAP ABOUT THE IDF SHOOTING KIDS!!! I'M SURE GAZA HAS SHOT AND BOMBED INNOCENT ISRAELI CHILDREN!!!!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FOR JUST ONE FRICKEN TIME!!! Have you ever listened to an actual Israeli civilian. GOOD FOR YOUR FRIENDS TELL THEM THANK YOU!
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I hope you are truly ignorant of what Israel does, because no sane person could both know and support their actions. That would be morally disgusting The only incidents of Israeli children attacked was desperate Palestinian terrorism- a last resort. I listen to zionists and their views all the time, but you have yet to answer my question. Have you listened to a Palestinian civilian? And I hope you have fun paying very high for Israel's bombing and invasion of Iran, soon enough.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator You really don't know what really goes on.That Israel ISN'T the monster you think they are.You think it's wrong to defend your land? YOU are the ignorant one who likes to make up info b/c he has none to back it up. They shot children b/c they were desperate? What the heck! That doesn't even add up. So It's OK for Gaza to attack Israel, but not vise versa. And I don't know any Palestinians but the fact is each nation will say the same thing about eachother. Israel will defend!
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Once again, you never asked for the proof. You're side is the one making the constant accusations (eg Iraq has WMDs and Persia has nukes). The burden of proof is on the one who makes the accusation. That's right, civilians are fired at if they get too close to the occupiers (look at anything filmed in Gaza, for example). It's not okay for Gaza to attack civilians. But Israel isn't helping by taking out their aggression on civilians. "Defend"? Try "occupy".
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator The proof I have is that people like HAVE attacked us before and we must be ready. Everyone knows that Iran is making WMD. No, civilians, any of them if Iraq would tell you they LOVE the soldiers. (I have a friend in Iraq) And if we think there are WMD, Why not go, that's right we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feeling, just let them make them then fire them at us no big. Are you kidding me Israel never wanted to attack Gaza. But you know right just let Gaza fire rockets it's ok
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Attacked the US? When did Palestinians do that? Better yet, when did Iraq do that? Israel, a country with more than 200 nuclear warheads, has no proof. Why NOT go? Because it will cause the deaths of thousands of people (most likely your friend too) and well as disrespecting the sovereignty of another nation, all out of paranoia. Israel has been holding their apartheid and ethnically cleansing their neighbors since the forties.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Iraq didn't attack but there are enemies hiding out there. Palestine has links to terrorists which makes them a threat. You seem to really not care that YOU could be attacked by a terrorist and that the US has no enemies. And we should be sending troops there to find out enemies and capture them. Besides there is footage EVERYWHERE that Iraqis LOVE US soldiers. They like that we are there b/c we are keeping the common people safe.Once we pull out it will desert storm all over again
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Enemies hiding there? Sadam hated medieval Islamic ideology, like that of Al Qaeda. And Hamas' Islamism does not account for the people, just like Israel's terrorist state does not account for all Israelis. I'm not denying that there is a resistance movement in Iraq, but is that surprising? Someone invaded their nation. The US kept the people safe? Like stealing oil and destabilizing the government? The latter is causing the rise of Islamic groups, by the way.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator We didn't invade there land we kicked there tormentors out! YES the US is keeping people safe(even I don't fully agree with it). It's just like Somalia, we sent troops in with food/supplies and the famine and alot of the violence went away. Then we pulled out and it came back. And for you to say we are stealing oil is laughable, the fact that we spend so much for it makes you look kinda dumb. Like I said you make up info. and then laugh at others who prove you wrong.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 The US invaded and chose who they thought should rule, not who the Iraqi people wanted. The Iraqi people loved their dictator, contrary to neocon propaganda. The people should choose for themselves. Somalia is a different story. Iraq never suffered from intense poverty (despite US sanctions) like Somalia. Americans spending a lot on oil means virtually nothing. Think Iran in the 30's-50's. And tell me what I'm making up, please. You're telling me about fictional wars of antiquity.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator The Iraqi people LOVE the US and what they have done. Look ANYWHERE about this an you will find that Iraqis LOVE US soldiers. And the Iraqi people loved there dictator b/c they tore down his statue,stomped on it then thanked the US. I'd love to here how you back this up. Find any place that talks about how the Iraqis loved Saddam(FAKE). The US buying oil means EVERYTHING! We spend so much on oil instead of using our own. We are giving money to our enemies. You should be happy
muffinman9797 1 year ago
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DuxImperator 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Like who? The rational commanders of the US military would have left if it wasn't for zionists and neocon warhawks like you. If there were such logical reasons to be there, the public would know. If you only did this for 20 minutes a day, why is do I end up responding twice (more before I got so busy) daily? You're only 15, and have your mind set on dying for the extremist cause of a foreign nation? I can only hope the best for you (and that doesn't mean more dead Iraqis).
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator I'm not going to be on the computer for like a month but here's the link to your role model murderer the video is called gas attack on the halabja (read comments) and read about anywhere there is NO way for you to avoid this truth.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Perhaps there was a vicious attack on a Kurdish town. Perhaps Iraq, like Israel, used excessive force on these Kurds and their Persian allies (almost reminiscent of Dresden and Nuremberg). But do you think Washington was interested in that, when they sent thousands of your countrymen to their deaths?
I want to remind you that I am not a leftist. I'm very much against Marxism (like Saddam). I believe every nation should rule itself, and have respect for nationalism and patriotism.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Yup and Saddam MURDERED. But I guess he's still your hero. YES that is another reason the US went in, again we went in their to STOP what was happening. And a gas attack of 10,000 is a good way to attract the US. Sent thousands to their death. Do you even know how many were killed in desert storm. There were only at max 400 COUNTING the other nations that helped the US.Where do you get your info, whenever I try to look up something you believe it almost never comes up with anything
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Do you condemn Roosevelt or Churchill for murdering civilians (when they didn't have to) during WWII (Dresden, Nuremberg, Japan)? And was it any of the US's business? No. And give me an example of these "non-existant" facts. if you recall, you're the one who made up such well-known events like the "War for the Holy Land" that erased the Phoenician right to the area.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Do you understand warfare! Innocent WILL die it's IMPOSSIBLE to avoid. And do you know what Germany did to England at one point, they nearly turned an entire city into dust with their air force. So your saying England doesn't have the right to fight back! You sicken me. And it became the US business when Japan attacked us! And your fake info= the US steals oil, thousands died in desert storm, Gaza doesn't have weapons, the US murders in Iraq, Saddam didn't murder, so much more.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 But that is no excuse for Israel to be so indiscriminate. The "Battle of Britain" was nothing compared to Dresden and Nuremberg (let alone Japan). England did have a right after that, but the bombings happened after the UK declared war on Germany. And what right did the US have to stop everyone who traded with Japan. That triggered Pearl Harbor. I never said anything about Desert Storm. And I also said Gaza's weapons are nothing compared to what the zionists claim…
DuxImperator 1 year ago
…And condemning Iraqi rebels fighting/killing American soldiers is like condemning a man killing a burglar who breaks into his home.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator You are really really retarded. The people there LOVE us. Did you look up US soldiers training Iraqi police. We are there to stop the people who are mudering innocent Iraqis. THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRAINING THERE POLICE!!!!!! So THERE POLICE can stop the terrorism on there own people. OK!!!!!!!!
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I love how there are more insults than facts in your comments. I know they train local police. That means virtually nothing, as everyone in a war-torn country needs to find a way to feed their families. Murdering innocent Iraqis? The whole point of the resistance isn't to kill their countrymen, but to end the occupation. They are unorganized, but I doubt they will give up anytime soon.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Israel is discriminate even though many people are anti-semite. Just b/c the bombing happened after they declared war proves nothing. Germany was a murderous nation and Europe WANTED and needed the US to help them.Or else Hitler would have taken over ALL of Europe.And Japan attacked us.Did you know that after that thousands of Americans started to join the military b/c they knew we were going to war.And you said "send thousands of countrymen to there death" relating to desert storm
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Whatever Germany did, that does not justify Israel's treatment of their neighbors. The Israeli attitude toward the Palestinians mirrors that of the German attitude towards the Jews in the 1930's and 1940's, which is terribly ironic. Even if Europe did want the US's help, they certainly did not want the Americanization that lasts to this day. I said it about the war in Iraq in general (more so the Iraq War than the almost as ridiculous Gulf War), not specifically "Desert Storm".
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator I never said it "justifies" anything. This is an example of you making stuff up. And I don't hear about Israel killing millions of Palestinians and putting them concentration camps do you? If you think so show me proof. And Americanization? What are you talking about we let Europe deal with most of their issues. So to say something like that is illogical. And the ridiculous Gulf War. O I get it your upset b/c they stopped your little murder friend Saddam, what a shame we helped.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Cultural "Americanization", much of which resulting from NATO and American bases in Europe. Upset? Personally, I find the whole farce hilarious (and perhaps tragic for all the young American men who died in vain). And when did "murder" become an adjective?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator What you think because of Americanization Europe doesn't like us? Might want to rethink that. Honestly people are jealous of all our freedom. So they just don't like us. No one ever likes the king of the mountain and we just so happen to be(even though we saved Europe's ass twice). People who constantly mock the US like you should just leave and stop bothering us. And are you saying WW2 soldiers died in vain? That's heart breaking to hear if that's the case. Sorry they died for you
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 “Jealous of all our freedom”? Hahahahahahahahahaha. American exportation (especially American media) is leading to degeneracy and laziness. I love your advice, seriously, please give me more. I was referring to Iraq, not WWII, although that is quite a debate for another day.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Are you saying if you lived in a 3rd world country you and you knew what the US is like you wouldn't be jealous. Why do you think SO MANY people are sneaking over the boarder. So I'm right they ARE jealous.And if you want some advice,LEAVE THE US, all you do is bitch about it and mock it. Are you just trying to get attention like a 6 year old autistic child? Maybe so. And NONE of our soldiers have died in vain.But I would expect you to down US soldiers who give their life for yours
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 There is a difference between being envious of material goods and hating someone ideologically. So, you think Al-Qaeda chose to attack New York because they wanted iPods and big houses? It’s much more complicated than that. Are you just trying to get attention on the internet like the 15 year old child you are? Maybe so. They all died in vain in Iraq, and that should make anyone regret such a useless war.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Billions of dollars are missing from Baghdad, in construction funds and in oil.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
Sooooooooooooooooo prove it. How am I able to take your word for seeing as though you make up alot of what you say.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Prove what? The articles? It's not my fault YouTube doesn't allow you to post links.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator When I go on the extremely biased CNN how do I find the propaganda I mean articles.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Type in the article name. Would you prefer articles from BBC?
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator No I looked them up already. They weren't really what you said they were.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 How so? I can't wait to hear this.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 And "off track"? I’m trying to be efficient with my commenting, because there is a character limit. Lying to myself? Wow… Please send a link about the sinister plan to bomb Israel (the one that may justify millions of deaths in Iran).
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Hahahaha you have been proven wrong AGAIN. This just shows that I can show you ALOT of my info on video-type in"Power up! Russia to start Iran's 1st nuclear plant next week", I would LOVE to see how you back this up. This just shows that Iran is making plans to attack Israel. And yes you do go off track.It's not my fault you have almost no proof to back up most of what you say.This is to easy for me you say "send me proof" and then I do. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA aaaa this is fun
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 They want nuclear power. Even Henry Kissinger knew that (look that up, but it won't be on FOX). France uses nuclear power everywhere, but does that mean they are planning to attack the US? You're the one making the accusations of Iran's sinister and evil plan to attack Israel. The burden of proof is always on the accuser.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator I know they want nuclear power. But do you know that before you said they DIDN'T. No but France isn't a terroristic nation. We've never had problems with them. But we have had problems with Iran. They don't like the US b/c we are infedals and support Israel. They are a dangerous nation. And I may be making the accusations but I have yet to see you back them up. But Iran has already made threats to Israel NOW they nuclear power. Put the pieces together I know you smarter than this.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I never said that. Ahmadinejad has been saying this for years. They don't like the US because of their useless foreign wars and support for the TERRORIST nation of Israel. Hahahahaha back up your accusations? If Iran hates all non-Muslim countries, why isn't their relationship with Europe so tense? That's right, Europe doesn't tend to aid the terrorist state of Israel or start useless and damaging wars.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator YES YOU DID! Don't lie man.You always said stuff like "show me Iran's sinister nuclear power plant" and stuff like that.If you don't believe me look back at what YOU said. It just goes to show you really aren't able to back it up. That would be like me saying"I never said Saddam murdered."Seriously. And look at how much Islam is growing in Europe.And no one has attacked terrorists the same way the US has.And terrorist state,last I checked they weren't crashing planes. So keep it up
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 "Sinister"! I was using a literary device to imply it's a plant for nuclear weapons. Crashing planes into buildings isn't the only way to commit terrorist acts. And most of European leaders are Europeans. Despite the unfortunate invasion of Europe by immigrants, the nations of Europe are not Islamic (at least not yet). So to argue that the Persians are on good terms with Europe because of the immigration is kind of silly.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Not only that you said they have NO nuclear weapons. NOTHING! You and I both know what you said. I don't care what your saying now you aren't able to take back something you said. And crashing planes is an overview. Israel isn't terrorizing unless they have ROCKETS fired on them. And I wasn't saying it's relationship is AWESOME! But they get along with them BETTER b/c of their views. And Europe thinks this war is useless (they weren't attacked) and that no one is doing anything.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 You’re funny kid. I looked back at what I said, and there was no contradiction. So if a weak little rocket is fired at them, they have the right to destroy and whole village, or fire weapons of their own at a crowd because a Hamas leader was among them? The Basques did not attack the US or Europe. We’ve been over this one too many times.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator another is "halabja poison gas attack on march 16, 1988"
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@DuxImperator BTW, I like being a warhawk. You like being ignorant. The public doesn't know b/c it doesn't happen that much. I know IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! Israel is a bunch of murderers.Try being an Israel soldier. Name one war where civilians weren't killed on both sides.The US killed civilians,Germany,Italy,England,the list goes on.What now EVERY country is a bunch of murderers. And I only an average of the time.Why does that matter to you so much? Run of out PROOF. And I'm SET stop making stuff up.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I meant I'm not SET.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Ignorant? Does standing up for the weak and voiceless count as "ignorance"? The IDF kills indiscriminately, much more so than anyone else. Even your friends in Iraq do not do that to Iraqi civilians. Israel does not need to do so, and it can be easily avoid doing this. You ask me to back my arguments up? You have yet to question a specific fact I have "made up". Please, do so. And look what you neocons did by not backing up the WMD claim. Thousands of Americans died in vain, sadly
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator And yes I know what kind of thing the IDF has done.Yes I don't agree with it all, but I'm not in there situation am I. I don't have to worry about going into a dangerous area b/c my country ordered me to.And Gaza is making missiles in Gaza(look it up don't ask me for a link).And If haven't answered I'm quite sorry ask it again please. But ya you do make up alot of your info.And SORRY, HEY EVERYONE THE US MADE A MISTAKE! Forget the US it's not like they've helped anyone. Yeah right!
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 Are you defending Eichmann's "I was following orders" charge? If Israel wasn't in someone else's land (including the settlements), the Palestinians would have more respect and less hatred for the Israelis. Please, tell me my "made up" facts, and I will back them up. The US has made mistakes, and to deny that is a bit naive, even for someone on the so-called American "right".
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Noone even kicked them out of the land. Britain offered it to them b/c BRITAIN conquered it. I already told you a few but here are some more-the US would welcome invaders, Iran has NO nuclear power plant or nuclear related things, and the US had no right to fight in WW2 even though Japan attacked us. So take that and go do something about it. And I said the US DID make a mistake. Again MAKING UP STUFF. And naive hahaha your the one that makes up stuff. Back up what I said. Please.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 1948 Nakba or "exodus" (Wikipedia even has an article on it). Iran has nuclear plants for nuclear POWER (which is an efficient power source). Having a "right" to attack is not a fact. Sanctions are damaging, as they were for Japan in the 1930's. It's a well-known fact that the US placed sanctions on Japan. As we saw with pre-war Iraq, sanctions can cause heavy damage to one's economy. But keep up the accusations of "MAKING UP STUFF". I'd love to hear it all.
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator Yes Iran HAS a nuclear power plant and before you said they DIDN'T, case closed. And what does Japan have to do with Iran. I proved you WRONG about Iran, what you want to change the subject fine with me. And the right to attack? What are you talking about? Japan,Iran,Israel? Which one. And don't worry I'll keep up the accusations, did you ask someone on the street if they would let someone invade/takeover the US. No b/c you would look like a fool. So go do something with that.
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@muffinman9797 I said they didn't have WEAPONS. There is a HUGE difference. Proved me wrong? Is this your sense of humor? Look like a fool? It's neocon idiots like you that make your whole country look foolish. That's why there's so much hostility towards the US nowadays (and please spare me the "they hate our freedom" BS).
DuxImperator 1 year ago
@DuxImperator NO. You said they had NO nuclear access AT ALL. I'm sorry but I'm not the one who said it. Is this your sense of humor lying about something you said. LOOK BACK at what you previously said, IT'S THERE. I'm the idiot. You praise Saddam, say US would welcome invaders,deny what you said,say things with no proof to back them up,and say the Gulf War was pointless. Talk about sheer stupidity. You say this crap THEN lie are you scared. And what, we should be nice and talk to murderers now
muffinman9797 1 year ago
@DuxImperator AND HOW DARE YOU! Saying "most likely your friend", you are such a coward. You and your fascist kind that just get together and make up philosophy about what should happen. When you do NOTHING. You have know idea the sacrifice our soldiers make so that you can live freely. People like you run when there is war b/c you think it is unjust only b/c you are to cowardly. Why don't you stop honoring someone who killed are soldiers and thank them for the hell they've gone through.
muffinman9797 1 year ago