MacArthur did a lot of ass kicking during WW2, including introducing democracy into Japan that made the country so modernized today. But in Korea, that pretty much all change. He arrogantly called for the bombing of China including the use of nukes against them when Chinese forces invaded into North Korea. That is pretty much out of line. Do you think it's a good to use nukes on China regardless what happened? Had Truman let MacArthur nuke China, the USSR would help and WW3 would have happened.
MacArthur: a man of honor, boldness, virtue, an ambition. The guy should've been president, if not for that dumbshit Truman. We would've kicked China's ass. But now they're the other world power. He really fixed up Japan after kicking it's ass. America would be taking no shit from anyone by now if he hadn't been removed.
i'm from the uk and i admit macarthur made mistakes. so did churchil - colossal mistakes. but they were human. not perfect. it ridiculous to assume that anybody could ever be! but macarthur was a man of honour, vision and superb audacious strategic decisions. however, i do not beieve his tactics were of much use in ETA as he was always a far eastern man and foresaw the difficulties of japan's surender and so approached it in the most fantastic diplomatic way. a genius!
@reredrumuoy if you think that there is nothing wrong with dropping weapons of colossal destruction onto nations full of people such as you and I, then you have something wrong with you.
This talk about Japan... a very good history professor of mine told me that we saved Japanese lives by dropping 2 "bombs" on them and forcing them to surrender. The Japs would have fought until everyone was dead. Most importantly, by selfish reasons admittedly, saved American lives by not having to fight anymore. This came as a shock to me as a 19 year old kid who was most interested in smoking grass and pussy, but it makes sense. Japs would have had kids shooting at us after we killed the men
William Manchester's book "American Caeser" he seems to suggest that MacArthur, because of his status as a de facto national leader in 3 countries, had more experience in governing than any other contemporary leader
if your a military general and wants to be remembered in history as one of the all time greats, start and win a war in the the philippines and you'll end up being a war hero like Gen. George Dewey & Gen. Douglas Macarthur, they will even name a ship after you(USS Dewey)...
The reponse would have been NOTHING but hot air. Though dropping the big ones on Japan were not needed, that was the only thing that canceled Stalin from going after Alaska in 45.
Look around the open border invasion with no manufacturing, how's looking ?
Being a neighbor of the former Soviet Russia: It greatly amuses me to see just how gullible people are. The primary requirement for a good general is to be able to see the difference between a rival and a threat. The warfare in Korea shows just how lacking this pseudo-libertarian psychopath really was in common sense and empathy. Most of the people he sent there were just fresh-faced kids not even old enough to vote, and Korea was perfectly harmless at the time. All needed is a speech.
Actually, there's around seventeen countries who share it with me. You'd know that if you ever read a document that wasn't spangled with stars, or had a crappy clip-art eagle printed on it... Or some other neo-Roman nationalist symbol for that matter.
@TheFacelessActivist Um NO there arent. Even the Russians respected MacArthur and they have alway's been on opposite sides of america. But they respected him. Whatever problems you have with a country don't use such a stupid reason to try to demean the good men and women who live up to their potential.
He committed genocides and started illegal wars, of course the post-Stalinist government loved him! But I side with the good guys in this, like Vladimir Lenin, and Gorbachev, you know, the humanitarians. Not the economically conservative warmongering mono-capitalist imperialist dogs who used mankind as their personal board of checkers!
@TheFacelessActivist Pffftt...started illegal wars my ass. People like you always find reasons to hate other people who do what they believe is right. Even thou you've never been in that situation, or have any experiance with what they have done, or been involved with that person. Whatever reason you have weather it's jealously, you were raised that way, you have someone in you ear telling you these thing's I won't acknowledge you. MacArthur was a great man and a great American.
I'm pretty sure my concern lies in how a powerhungry psychopath had 1.6 million people dying over his political prestige. The cold war was a soccermatch with rifles, where the red team and the blue team shot at one another for a few decades due to the incompetent dictators than ran each team since they were just so determined to show people who's colors was the best colors. But in the end they just killed a lot of people for no reason, so, swing it and miss, comrade.
@TheFacelessActivist We were right to go to vietnam we fought that war to protect our allies, and General MacArthur did what he had to do. In the end I believe what I want to believe as will you. You have a right to your opinion, even thou its wrong.
Okay, ever spoken to a person who has to live in the aftermath of that place? They're not exactly grateful for how Nixon paid off guerrilla warriors to help French colonists to prevent them from being independent, and now they're being harassed by the Chinese because they think "Vietnam is allied with America", even though they didn't want the imperialist swine slaughtering their people in the first place! So to hell with your stupid genocidal maniacs and nationalist bullshit.
Even if true, Douglas MacArthur was much, much more Qualified the rational righteous defense and care for Western Freedoms and the USA National security.
Trolls have made comments on this history and they are a part of who destroyed this nation, their ideology is with the founders of the USSR and Mao's Red China, and all evil in history, they are not folk or friends of Western folks.
Wow his words ring so true about chinas rise presently. I wonder if he always knew China was gonna take over asian markets and become the next super power.
whether his speech revealed the "truth" or not, there was only one question in consideration afterall..
"Can we afford a war with China+Russia?" ....I mean, if the U.S DID launch a bomb attack on China...will you and me still talking here over a keyboard?
probably not, I don't see any reason why wouldn't the world be nuked into pieces....
@jc2pb4jc2tk2 McArthur's call for nuking China wasn't the key issue..the point is the entire US involvement of Pacific war that would eventually weaken Imperial Japan, a country had the guts and means to fight communism, had deadly conconsequences, red China was one of them.
Oh, in case you don't know, more than 1.3 billion of mainland Chinese don't have the right of talking over a keyboard here on YT.
It is to be noted that these are amongst the great events that precipitated America's turning point from the golden age into what we now know to be Her dark age.
If MacArthur had his way we have nuked China into the stone age. I think he pretty much hung himself in the Senate investigation when he said that Truman was too concerned with the world politics and he was only concerned with winning in Korea. He also thought he was larger than the presidency and deserved to be fired.
He was a great General, who thought he was greater then the institution of the Government, & of the president. It was this ego that pushed him to insubordination, by releasing his own press releases, on the political aspects of the war, which is the sec of state's job, & that the president explicitly told him not to do.
Civilian control over the military prevents these kind of General's from taking over the government, like they do in many countries, & that MacArthur was perfect material for.
He wasn't winning at all! In point of fact, he got his ASS handed to him by the Chinese and General Matthew Ridgway had to bail the brain-addled old bastard out. It was only after Ridgway cleaned up the mess that things got better and the army clawed its way back to the 38th parallel.
@srvblooze You need to know your history. You cannot win a war when your president does not want to win. Truman did not like Macarthur because Truman thought he was going to run against him. He made it so Macarthur would fail. In WWII the president let the generals do what they had to do. Truman in Korea ruled from the white house, and look what that got us.
@srvblooze That's not true at all. After the initial North Korean invasion pushed the South Korean forces to the bottom of the peninsula, MacArthur single-handedly turned the tide of the war with his Inchon landing. Inchon resulted in the North Korean forces being chased back into the North, nearly to the border of China, at which time Chi-coms came down en masse and pushed the UN forces back to the 38th parallel, where the fighting had already stabilized when Ridgeway took command.
Obviously you can't tell the difference between a regular bomb from a plane, or an atomic bomb. MacArthur wanted to cross the Yangzee River to bomb the bridges and all other ways that the Chinese could get into Korea. The Chinese from the part that was known as Red China were coming across to help the North Koreans fight against the American troops. MacArthur wanted to put a stop to it, and then he would have been able to take North Korea. Instead Truman screwed him. Learn your history first.
macarthur was sacked by truman because he wants to drop an atomic bomb on korea and 5 atomic bombs on china...truman said that macarthur is creating a ww3..
@slazzer145 You are a complete bloom ing idiot, and this is a blatant lie. Maybe you should consider reading the only book that Gen. Douglas MacArthur wrote before you shoot your mouth off about something you know nothing about. He was the greatest General that ever served. He actually wrote the Japanese Constitution that they still abide by today. His way of winning is still taught at West Point and The War College. He didn't want to drop any atomic bombs on Korea or China.
@ToxicOdiousOne, b/c the Dems control U.S. Congress. They won't allow Gen. McChrystal to give a farewell speech at the Capitol. They are standing by the U.S. Pres' decision to fire him, who is a Dem. But I think? The U.S. Pres & Dem Party Congress are afraid. McChrystal speaks out the truth. How they are mishandling on the Afghan War. Watch on youtube of McChrystal's cbs 60 mins & ISAF media. You'll truly understand him. Please read my prior comment on this video. :)
All of you who support McArthur over Truman in this incident do not understand the nature of our constitutional government. The constitution places the military under civilian control because they wanted to prevent rule by the military caste. It was their most brilliant move. McArthur violated his oath to defend the constitution against "all enemies foreign and domestic!" McArthur clearly betrayed his oath: Fuck him and his apologist!!!
@TheViewFromSugarHill you are in fact True. I think the problem here is People that Supported The General Simply was not a big Truman Fan . I am in fact not a big Truman Fan But i need to accept his Choice as President . (Office Over Person).
No amount of words can truly distinguish this man for the level of greatness he achieved. Had Truman, and Roosevelt before him, not stood in his way, we would surely have a brighter past, and a more glorious future. One may only hope that we will one day have a man of equal greatness present in the leadership of this country, for neither congressman nor President has ever achieved a level of greatness to which MacArthur ascended. I sincerely hope that he will never truly fade away.
I hope Gen. McChrystal is allowed to give a farewell speech like this in U.S. Congress. Just how U.S. Pres. Obama like Truman fired Gen. McChrystal like MacArthur during major conflicts thru out the world. "An Old Soldier never dies, he just fade away." - MacArthur. McChrystal should state, "An Old Soldier never dies, he will be reincarnated into a different person to be in position above the hier ranks of bureaucracy." My salute to you McChrystal!
When the commander of U.S. and United Nations forces in Korea, General Douglas MacArthur, publicly criticized the Truman administration's war policy, President Truman relieved him of command. Outraged, and sensing a political opportunity to damage Truman, Republicans in Congress invited MacArthur to address a joint session of the Congress.
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SCUMBAGS! I guess their game of political opportunism did not begin in 2010. Evil GOP!
Yes, the world and their people will be so much better off without a third world war with atomic weapons. You need to change that cold-war mentality of yours. Not all issues have to be resolved by wars. BTW, in case you haven't noticed, China is not your enemy any more. It is actually more important to you than British. Better make your children learn Chinese. It will be very handy in the future. Ciao.
After I read your post I thought---spoken like a true idiot! maxima0078 Its foolish to make comments about someone that you obviously know nothing about. The general was a professional soldier that actually hated war. In fact most generals prefer to deter an enemy from taking violent action rather than resorting to war. I would point to Mac Arthur's compassionate treatment of the Japanese after the war as proof. Clearly he prevented the conditions for war from resurfacing
what bearing that has on the issue is unclear but I do not disagree. Actually MacArthur had a great deal of power in post war Japan because Hirohito commanded his subjects to cooperate with the occupation force. Without that MacArthur would have been dealing with one hell of an insurgency.
"There are those who claim our strength is inadequate to protect on both fronts, that we cannot divide our effort. I can think of no greater expression of defeatism." -Douglas MacArthur
These words ring true today, as they did the day this speech was made.
What fools What fools.. If only we had taken Mcarthur's Advice and Bomb China, instead we now face a country with total different ideologies of our own that will prove to be a deadly enemy with nuclear bombs .
They'd be pretty arrogant if they followed MacArthur's methods. He had a massive ego and deserved to be fired for trying to defy Truman's orders and bomb China. had he expanded the war into China, it would have provoked the USSR and lead to World War III. You need to do more research on the man
@AspectofTimeNozdormu shit man I was joking, I think College history classes are fairly useless. Everything you learn in a history class can be read on Wikipedia.
Most certainly not the greatest general in American history. Before you also talk about his victory over Japan, you should do more research. When the final phase of the Japanese war was being debated, he pressured the ailing President Roosevelt to start the war in the Philippines, while Nimitz had a more logical view of starting the drive in Taiwan. Had he invaded Taiwan first, The US would have advanced much closer to Japan's doorstep and China would have been more free as well.
An outstanding general, one of the most brilliant of the previous century.He achieved victories while sparing the lives of his troops compared most of his contemporaries in other armies. His occupation policy in Japan is a model of far sighted benevolence. He was not without mistakes and his policy in post war Philippines was one such example.
@heidegger1243 Yes it was a noble administration here in the Philippines, my granddad was a Filipino guerrilla who fought alongside the Americans, he survived the "Bataan Death March". Americans, Filipinos, Spanish were all suffering, dying, fighting together like brothers against the Imperial Japanese butcheries of my homeland. No administration is perfect of course, but the American admin in the Phils. was/is still celebrated, for we look at each other like brothers, not colonizers to a colony
@kronos251 I recently visited Subic Bay and was surprised to see a statue of a woman releasing a bird.. The plaque read something to the effect of "Dedicated to the courageous men and women of the congress that voted the US Military off the island". This was of course in ENGLISH and sat directly in front of our parked submarine. The Filipinos loved us of course because we were spending money but it sounds like a far cry from your "celebrated" administration
@Awbeee That statue of a woman releasing the bird was a time when the Philippines were a spoiled, fickle, sexually liberated nation, yet are narrow-minded ingrates reigned by xenophobes. 25 senators (legally/ILLegally elected) do NOT constitute 80 million Filipinos. Honestly, the superficial conception that the Americans are cash cows to us is not true, as the silent majority of the Filipino public, the juan dela cruzes who don't give a crap about politics respect the United States. Why?(cont'd)
@Awbeee (cont'd..) Because politicians did not fight in WW2, the ordinary citizens did, and those citizens do respect, do remember the honor, and yes do "celebrate" the 70-year-old brotherhood, which blood was shed for this country by Americans and other allies, not only by themselves. Politics = Media-driven Bullshit here..that's why we never listen to our leaders since 1986/1991 Pinatubo eruption, that's why this country will take time to awaken, to mature from its current Third World complex.
@kronos251 Hmm well said and not what I expected to hear from a native. I must admit I had an incredible time on the island and would love to go back!
@Awbeee everyone's always welcome here.. :) and um, I was born in San Francisco, but lived here most of my life. that's why I can see things through both sides of the argument. Salamat at Mabuhay!
USSR and China were not allies. In fact if 5 star general MacArthur got his wish Russia would have gotten rid of an enemy.
LordHannigan 4 days ago
MacArthur did a lot of ass kicking during WW2, including introducing democracy into Japan that made the country so modernized today. But in Korea, that pretty much all change. He arrogantly called for the bombing of China including the use of nukes against them when Chinese forces invaded into North Korea. That is pretty much out of line. Do you think it's a good to use nukes on China regardless what happened? Had Truman let MacArthur nuke China, the USSR would help and WW3 would have happened.
Hperman09 4 days ago
MacArthur: a man of honor, boldness, virtue, an ambition. The guy should've been president, if not for that dumbshit Truman. We would've kicked China's ass. But now they're the other world power. He really fixed up Japan after kicking it's ass. America would be taking no shit from anyone by now if he hadn't been removed.
TheSgtDouglas 2 weeks ago
@TheSgtDouglas You sir are correct. Macarthur was ready to prevent the cold war by kicking china and russias asses.
KingConservative 5 days ago
i'm from the uk and i admit macarthur made mistakes. so did churchil - colossal mistakes. but they were human. not perfect. it ridiculous to assume that anybody could ever be! but macarthur was a man of honour, vision and superb audacious strategic decisions. however, i do not beieve his tactics were of much use in ETA as he was always a far eastern man and foresaw the difficulties of japan's surender and so approached it in the most fantastic diplomatic way. a genius!
narred 2 weeks ago
@frankenbran85 true about that
flyingluv 2 weeks ago
Good in WW2 but he didn't think in Korea and we are still paying for it.
frankenbran85 2 weeks ago
@frankenbran85 What should MacArthur have done differently?
mrblujet 5 days ago
@AutodromoAR what is wrong with that exactly
reredrumuoy 1 month ago
@reredrumuoy if you think that there is nothing wrong with dropping weapons of colossal destruction onto nations full of people such as you and I, then you have something wrong with you.
draculon5 1 month ago
@draculon5 kill one to save a thousand
or in this case
kill a thousand to save a million
reredrumuoy 1 month ago
@reredrumuoy believe what you like, i'm just glad you don't have access to nuclear weapons.
draculon5 1 month ago
@AutodromoAR I thought poisoning the Yalu river was by far his worst idea
andyisapro 2 months ago
One of the greatest generals in the history of our nation.
Calbenmike 2 months ago
@AutodromoAR your a fucking retard look at what hes done and say that.
manwithawig21594 2 months ago
This talk about Japan... a very good history professor of mine told me that we saved Japanese lives by dropping 2 "bombs" on them and forcing them to surrender. The Japs would have fought until everyone was dead. Most importantly, by selfish reasons admittedly, saved American lives by not having to fight anymore. This came as a shock to me as a 19 year old kid who was most interested in smoking grass and pussy, but it makes sense. Japs would have had kids shooting at us after we killed the men
KeepRockin55 2 months ago
I think it is ridiculous that you are trying to charge people to watch apart of OUR American history.
jumill87 3 months ago
A heroe of the entire world.
aalvesfilho 3 months ago
William Manchester's book "American Caeser" he seems to suggest that MacArthur, because of his status as a de facto national leader in 3 countries, had more experience in governing than any other contemporary leader
Ca1861 3 months ago 3
thank you for liberating our country mcarthur..
Xanxus29 4 months ago
you have to remember back than we held all th nukes mot china and russia would not be able to get them close enough to bomb us.
KingC1150 5 months ago
if your a military general and wants to be remembered in history as one of the all time greats, start and win a war in the the philippines and you'll end up being a war hero like Gen. George Dewey & Gen. Douglas Macarthur, they will even name a ship after you(USS Dewey)...
G4nj4Us3r 5 months ago
He went too far in Korea and his firing was needed.
wmhp1959 6 months ago
He wants to nuke China back in Korea War, if he did ....... Soviet, China, US will be no more......
nt43609 6 months ago
@ChannelingusXIVC
None dared call it treason, per what the district of criminal had done to US.
God Bless Douglas MacArthur !
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Nationsnotregimes 7 months ago
Epic!
eriktheviking123 8 months ago
@ChannelingusXIVC
The reponse would have been NOTHING but hot air. Though dropping the big ones on Japan were not needed, that was the only thing that canceled Stalin from going after Alaska in 45.
Look around the open border invasion with no manufacturing, how's looking ?
Nationsnotregimes 8 months ago
General Douglas MacArthur was going to resign in Early 1950 so he could run for POTUS in 1952as was known by the clicks in London and NYC.
The Korean War was to keep the General from every becoming POTUS and cleaning out twenty years of enemy aliens spys etc.
The Korean war was launched by Stalin and Mao, with the the blessing's of enemy aliens amongst US.
The General DID not start any war.
Nationsnotregimes 9 months ago
Being a neighbor of the former Soviet Russia: It greatly amuses me to see just how gullible people are. The primary requirement for a good general is to be able to see the difference between a rival and a threat. The warfare in Korea shows just how lacking this pseudo-libertarian psychopath really was in common sense and empathy. Most of the people he sent there were just fresh-faced kids not even old enough to vote, and Korea was perfectly harmless at the time. All needed is a speech.
TheFacelessActivist 9 months ago
@TheFacelessActivist Douglas MacArthur was a great man something you will never be. Keep your haterd to yourself no one wants to hear it.
tom1yum2goong 5 months ago
@tom1yum2goong
Actually, there's around seventeen countries who share it with me. You'd know that if you ever read a document that wasn't spangled with stars, or had a crappy clip-art eagle printed on it... Or some other neo-Roman nationalist symbol for that matter.
TheFacelessActivist 4 months ago
@TheFacelessActivist Um NO there arent. Even the Russians respected MacArthur and they have alway's been on opposite sides of america. But they respected him. Whatever problems you have with a country don't use such a stupid reason to try to demean the good men and women who live up to their potential.
tom1yum2goong 4 months ago
@tom1yum2goong
He committed genocides and started illegal wars, of course the post-Stalinist government loved him! But I side with the good guys in this, like Vladimir Lenin, and Gorbachev, you know, the humanitarians. Not the economically conservative warmongering mono-capitalist imperialist dogs who used mankind as their personal board of checkers!
TheFacelessActivist 4 months ago
@TheFacelessActivist Pffftt...started illegal wars my ass. People like you always find reasons to hate other people who do what they believe is right. Even thou you've never been in that situation, or have any experiance with what they have done, or been involved with that person. Whatever reason you have weather it's jealously, you were raised that way, you have someone in you ear telling you these thing's I won't acknowledge you. MacArthur was a great man and a great American.
tom1yum2goong 4 months ago
@tom1yum2goong
I'm pretty sure my concern lies in how a powerhungry psychopath had 1.6 million people dying over his political prestige. The cold war was a soccermatch with rifles, where the red team and the blue team shot at one another for a few decades due to the incompetent dictators than ran each team since they were just so determined to show people who's colors was the best colors. But in the end they just killed a lot of people for no reason, so, swing it and miss, comrade.
TheFacelessActivist 4 months ago
@TheFacelessActivist We were right to go to vietnam we fought that war to protect our allies, and General MacArthur did what he had to do. In the end I believe what I want to believe as will you. You have a right to your opinion, even thou its wrong.
tom1yum2goong 4 months ago
@tom1yum2goong
Okay, ever spoken to a person who has to live in the aftermath of that place? They're not exactly grateful for how Nixon paid off guerrilla warriors to help French colonists to prevent them from being independent, and now they're being harassed by the Chinese because they think "Vietnam is allied with America", even though they didn't want the imperialist swine slaughtering their people in the first place! So to hell with your stupid genocidal maniacs and nationalist bullshit.
TheFacelessActivist 4 months ago
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@TheFacelessActivist Right back at you buddy.
tom1yum2goong 4 months ago
The NSA intercept IMO is and Was a lie/misifo.
Even if true, Douglas MacArthur was much, much more Qualified the rational righteous defense and care for Western Freedoms and the USA National security.
Comments other wise speak for them selves.
Nationsnotregimes 9 months ago
Trolls have made comments on this history and they are a part of who destroyed this nation, their ideology is with the founders of the USSR and Mao's Red China, and all evil in history, they are not folk or friends of Western folks.
Read "The Eleventh Hour" by Lewis W. Walt 1979
Nationsnotregimes 9 months ago
@ChannelingusXIVC
Where did you get this information
Rank Treason against the U.S. founder's and the Bill Of Rights was never by Douglas MacArthur.
Rank treason has been by a international gang IMO.
Nationsnotregimes 9 months ago
The Eleventh Hour---- by Lewis W. Walt 1979 USMC R 1936-1979
Nationsnotregimes 9 months ago
Wow his words ring so true about chinas rise presently. I wonder if he always knew China was gonna take over asian markets and become the next super power.
tonyrosam 9 months ago
We went from this to Obama! :( cries
zinpgh 10 months ago
whether his speech revealed the "truth" or not, there was only one question in consideration afterall..
"Can we afford a war with China+Russia?" ....I mean, if the U.S DID launch a bomb attack on China...will you and me still talking here over a keyboard?
probably not, I don't see any reason why wouldn't the world be nuked into pieces....
jc2pb4jc2tk2 10 months ago
@jc2pb4jc2tk2 McArthur's call for nuking China wasn't the key issue..the point is the entire US involvement of Pacific war that would eventually weaken Imperial Japan, a country had the guts and means to fight communism, had deadly conconsequences, red China was one of them.
Oh, in case you don't know, more than 1.3 billion of mainland Chinese don't have the right of talking over a keyboard here on YT.
TheSalmonfan 9 months ago
They just don't make men like that anymore !
carypappass 1 year ago
The Greatest American General.
LanceBeckman 1 year ago
It is to be noted that these are amongst the great events that precipitated America's turning point from the golden age into what we now know to be Her dark age.
tacoland2000 1 year ago
What date was the speech?
moleman1996 1 year ago
Truman once said of him:"He was a dumb son of a bitch."He was probably right.
alibaba1341 1 year ago
he was fired for wanting to attack China
razorbacks2009 1 year ago
he was fired for wanting to nuke north koria witch is bull crap if we would have done it wqe wouldedt be dealing with kim jong fagget over there
mcnutty80 1 year ago
NO PART 2 !?
yuhon09 1 year ago
If MacArthur had his way we have nuked China into the stone age. I think he pretty much hung himself in the Senate investigation when he said that Truman was too concerned with the world politics and he was only concerned with winning in Korea. He also thought he was larger than the presidency and deserved to be fired.
Awbeee 1 year ago
Remember that quote that "General MacArthur" said?
"Give me 10,000 Filipino fighters and i will conquer the WORLD!"
bluekrim 1 year ago
He was a great General, who thought he was greater then the institution of the Government, & of the president. It was this ego that pushed him to insubordination, by releasing his own press releases, on the political aspects of the war, which is the sec of state's job, & that the president explicitly told him not to do.
Civilian control over the military prevents these kind of General's from taking over the government, like they do in many countries, & that MacArthur was perfect material for.
yudimandel 1 year ago
@yudimandel You parrot the idiotic propaganda spewed forth
by the Truman administration after he made the worst mistake
any leader can ever make in wartime: FIRING THE GENERAL
WHO IS WINNING THE WAR. Truman was an illegitimate HACK
installed by the criminal Pendergast political machine, and
MacArthur knew it. FDR was smart enough to give MacArthur
the authority he needed to win against the Japanese, which
is the OBJECT OF WAR, TO WIN. MacArthur had no desire
to "take over the gov't".
4freespeech 1 year ago
@4freespeech And yet, you didn't address a single point that I made, "You parrot the idiotic propaganda spewed forth by the Truman administration",
I got my information on this issue from historian David McCullough's book, Truman, which by the way won a Pulitzer prize.
When's the last time you read a thousand page book? Or any book for that matter?
yudimandel 1 year ago
@4freespeech
He wasn't winning at all! In point of fact, he got his ASS handed to him by the Chinese and General Matthew Ridgway had to bail the brain-addled old bastard out. It was only after Ridgway cleaned up the mess that things got better and the army clawed its way back to the 38th parallel.
srvblooze 1 year ago
@srvblooze You need to know your history. You cannot win a war when your president does not want to win. Truman did not like Macarthur because Truman thought he was going to run against him. He made it so Macarthur would fail. In WWII the president let the generals do what they had to do. Truman in Korea ruled from the white house, and look what that got us.
techman59 1 year ago
@srvblooze That's not true at all. After the initial North Korean invasion pushed the South Korean forces to the bottom of the peninsula, MacArthur single-handedly turned the tide of the war with his Inchon landing. Inchon resulted in the North Korean forces being chased back into the North, nearly to the border of China, at which time Chi-coms came down en masse and pushed the UN forces back to the 38th parallel, where the fighting had already stabilized when Ridgeway took command.
LanceBeckman 1 year ago 2
Obviously you can't tell the difference between a regular bomb from a plane, or an atomic bomb. MacArthur wanted to cross the Yangzee River to bomb the bridges and all other ways that the Chinese could get into Korea. The Chinese from the part that was known as Red China were coming across to help the North Koreans fight against the American troops. MacArthur wanted to put a stop to it, and then he would have been able to take North Korea. Instead Truman screwed him. Learn your history first.
Bigtexasyankee 1 year ago
macarthur was sacked by truman because he wants to drop an atomic bomb on korea and 5 atomic bombs on china...truman said that macarthur is creating a ww3..
slazzer145 1 year ago
@slazzer145 You are a complete bloom ing idiot, and this is a blatant lie. Maybe you should consider reading the only book that Gen. Douglas MacArthur wrote before you shoot your mouth off about something you know nothing about. He was the greatest General that ever served. He actually wrote the Japanese Constitution that they still abide by today. His way of winning is still taught at West Point and The War College. He didn't want to drop any atomic bombs on Korea or China.
Bigtexasyankee 1 year ago
@Bigtexasyankee hey numskull yankee now tell me why macarthur was kick his ass out of korea..
slazzer145 1 year ago
Why was Stanley McCrystal not granted the privledge to address the Congress? Why the loss of formality? No farewell speech?
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
@ToxicOdiousOne, b/c the Dems control U.S. Congress. They won't allow Gen. McChrystal to give a farewell speech at the Capitol. They are standing by the U.S. Pres' decision to fire him, who is a Dem. But I think? The U.S. Pres & Dem Party Congress are afraid. McChrystal speaks out the truth. How they are mishandling on the Afghan War. Watch on youtube of McChrystal's cbs 60 mins & ISAF media. You'll truly understand him. Please read my prior comment on this video. :)
chillinmc 1 year ago
All of you who support McArthur over Truman in this incident do not understand the nature of our constitutional government. The constitution places the military under civilian control because they wanted to prevent rule by the military caste. It was their most brilliant move. McArthur violated his oath to defend the constitution against "all enemies foreign and domestic!" McArthur clearly betrayed his oath: Fuck him and his apologist!!!
TheViewFromSugarHill 1 year ago
@TheViewFromSugarHill i would certainly like to grab you by the lapels and propel you thru a wall
CountryMusicFreak235 1 year ago
@TheViewFromSugarHill you are in fact True. I think the problem here is People that Supported The General Simply was not a big Truman Fan . I am in fact not a big Truman Fan But i need to accept his Choice as President . (Office Over Person).
realhxq 1 year ago
@TheViewFromSugarHill your a nut. your speaking pure garbage
joeratti 1 year ago
No amount of words can truly distinguish this man for the level of greatness he achieved. Had Truman, and Roosevelt before him, not stood in his way, we would surely have a brighter past, and a more glorious future. One may only hope that we will one day have a man of equal greatness present in the leadership of this country, for neither congressman nor President has ever achieved a level of greatness to which MacArthur ascended. I sincerely hope that he will never truly fade away.
Unilateralism 1 year ago
Douglas MacArthur was a great general, one of the greatest in America's history.
I suggest his great autobiography "Reminisces" and also William Manchester's
American Caeser.
General MacArthur was greeted as a hero when he was recalled with gigantic parades in New York and elsewhere.
A Great Soldier!
ToughXArmy69 1 year ago
I hope Gen. McChrystal is allowed to give a farewell speech like this in U.S. Congress. Just how U.S. Pres. Obama like Truman fired Gen. McChrystal like MacArthur during major conflicts thru out the world. "An Old Soldier never dies, he just fade away." - MacArthur. McChrystal should state, "An Old Soldier never dies, he will be reincarnated into a different person to be in position above the hier ranks of bureaucracy." My salute to you McChrystal!
chillinmc 1 year ago
When the commander of U.S. and United Nations forces in Korea, General Douglas MacArthur, publicly criticized the Truman administration's war policy, President Truman relieved him of command. Outraged, and sensing a political opportunity to damage Truman, Republicans in Congress invited MacArthur to address a joint session of the Congress.
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SCUMBAGS! I guess their game of political opportunism did not begin in 2010. Evil GOP!
busangax 1 year ago
MacArthur was truly a brilliant General...and a great American.
Nevertheless, and he so admitted many years after his firing by President Truman, that the Commander-In-Chief must be in control.
km2711 1 year ago
A warmonger. He has no problem creating a third world war, or using nuclear bombs as long as he is the leading general.
maxima0078 1 year ago
@maxima0078
Yes, the world and their people are so much better off with North Korea and China. Those are some good points you have there.
truespeaks 1 year ago
@truespeaks
Yes, the world and their people will be so much better off without a third world war with atomic weapons. You need to change that cold-war mentality of yours. Not all issues have to be resolved by wars. BTW, in case you haven't noticed, China is not your enemy any more. It is actually more important to you than British. Better make your children learn Chinese. It will be very handy in the future. Ciao.
maxima0078 1 year ago
@maxima0078
After I read your post I thought---spoken like a true idiot! maxima0078 Its foolish to make comments about someone that you obviously know nothing about. The general was a professional soldier that actually hated war. In fact most generals prefer to deter an enemy from taking violent action rather than resorting to war. I would point to Mac Arthur's compassionate treatment of the Japanese after the war as proof. Clearly he prevented the conditions for war from resurfacing
1138thz 1 year ago
@1138thz
One can be magnanimous when one is treated like a god.
twenlil 4 months ago
@twenlil
what bearing that has on the issue is unclear but I do not disagree. Actually MacArthur had a great deal of power in post war Japan because Hirohito commanded his subjects to cooperate with the occupation force. Without that MacArthur would have been dealing with one hell of an insurgency.
1138thz 4 months ago
It is said that Truman listened to this and commented "100 Percent Bullshit."
RandallFlaggNY 1 year ago
he' probably rolling in his grave.
jbeezy81275 1 year ago
One of our greatest heros. Enchong landing was brilliant...We should have let him finish the job. Where are these people now?Where are they?
jbeezy81275 1 year ago
"There are those who claim our strength is inadequate to protect on both fronts, that we cannot divide our effort. I can think of no greater expression of defeatism." -Douglas MacArthur
These words ring true today, as they did the day this speech was made.
caliaviator07 1 year ago 24
You are wrong on this account. MacArthur mispoke deliberately on this point and many others in this speech.
BartShumaker 4 months ago
What fools What fools.. If only we had taken Mcarthur's Advice and Bomb China, instead we now face a country with total different ideologies of our own that will prove to be a deadly enemy with nuclear bombs .
bdschlong 2 years ago
If only the US generals in Iraq and Afghanistan had the foresight of MacArthur!
spiritoftungchung 2 years ago 19
They'd be pretty arrogant if they followed MacArthur's methods. He had a massive ego and deserved to be fired for trying to defy Truman's orders and bomb China. had he expanded the war into China, it would have provoked the USSR and lead to World War III. You need to do more research on the man
hulkyone 2 years ago
@spiritoftungchung MacArthur was a nut he wanted to launch a tactical Nuclear attack on North Korea.
seroyer2 1 year ago
@seroyer2 actually it was China.
AspectofTimeNozdormu 1 year ago
@AspectofTimeNozdormu Really? I thought it was North Korea and Chinese forces.
seroyer2 11 months ago
@seroyer2 I heard China itself.
AspectofTimeNozdormu 11 months ago
@AspectofTimeNozdormu Well I guess my Professor was wrong. once again College 0, Wikipedia 1.
seroyer2 11 months ago
@seroyer2 ahem, I NEVER got the information from Wikipedia, stop being a condescending prick.
AspectofTimeNozdormu 11 months ago
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@AspectofTimeNozdormu shit man I was joking, I think College history classes are fairly useless. Everything you learn in a history class can be read on Wikipedia.
seroyer2 11 months ago
@spiritoftungchung in mcarthurs time generals called the shots who were on the frontlines.
today generals are drones who take orders from people in chairs at the pentagon.
valenceLOL 10 months ago
@valenceLOL *macarthur
littlmishappygolucky 9 months ago
this is very likely the greatest general the US ever had..and his policies in Japan are what made that country what it is today
scub81 2 years ago
Most certainly not the greatest general in American history. Before you also talk about his victory over Japan, you should do more research. When the final phase of the Japanese war was being debated, he pressured the ailing President Roosevelt to start the war in the Philippines, while Nimitz had a more logical view of starting the drive in Taiwan. Had he invaded Taiwan first, The US would have advanced much closer to Japan's doorstep and China would have been more free as well.
hulkyone 2 years ago
An outstanding general, one of the most brilliant of the previous century.He achieved victories while sparing the lives of his troops compared most of his contemporaries in other armies. His occupation policy in Japan is a model of far sighted benevolence. He was not without mistakes and his policy in post war Philippines was one such example.
lingosteve 2 years ago 3
@lingosteve Very well said, MacArthur was a significant man in significant times.
5B0YAKASHA5 2 years ago
"our own noble administration in the phillipines" lol...yeahhhhhh that was a noble administration
heidegger1243 2 years ago
@heidegger1243 Yes it was a noble administration here in the Philippines, my granddad was a Filipino guerrilla who fought alongside the Americans, he survived the "Bataan Death March". Americans, Filipinos, Spanish were all suffering, dying, fighting together like brothers against the Imperial Japanese butcheries of my homeland. No administration is perfect of course, but the American admin in the Phils. was/is still celebrated, for we look at each other like brothers, not colonizers to a colony
kronos251 1 year ago
@kronos251 I recently visited Subic Bay and was surprised to see a statue of a woman releasing a bird.. The plaque read something to the effect of "Dedicated to the courageous men and women of the congress that voted the US Military off the island". This was of course in ENGLISH and sat directly in front of our parked submarine. The Filipinos loved us of course because we were spending money but it sounds like a far cry from your "celebrated" administration
Awbeee 1 year ago
@Awbeee That statue of a woman releasing the bird was a time when the Philippines were a spoiled, fickle, sexually liberated nation, yet are narrow-minded ingrates reigned by xenophobes. 25 senators (legally/ILLegally elected) do NOT constitute 80 million Filipinos. Honestly, the superficial conception that the Americans are cash cows to us is not true, as the silent majority of the Filipino public, the juan dela cruzes who don't give a crap about politics respect the United States. Why?(cont'd)
kronos251 1 year ago
@Awbeee (cont'd..) Because politicians did not fight in WW2, the ordinary citizens did, and those citizens do respect, do remember the honor, and yes do "celebrate" the 70-year-old brotherhood, which blood was shed for this country by Americans and other allies, not only by themselves. Politics = Media-driven Bullshit here..that's why we never listen to our leaders since 1986/1991 Pinatubo eruption, that's why this country will take time to awaken, to mature from its current Third World complex.
kronos251 1 year ago
@kronos251 Hmm well said and not what I expected to hear from a native. I must admit I had an incredible time on the island and would love to go back!
Awbeee 1 year ago
@Awbeee everyone's always welcome here.. :) and um, I was born in San Francisco, but lived here most of my life. that's why I can see things through both sides of the argument. Salamat at Mabuhay!
kronos251 1 year ago