Well, in a game that crash could have been avoided if he had not countersteer. Since the car is RWD, and the traction was lost at the front because the gas cut off, if he only gave it gas again and kept the tires straight, after the grass the car would have been hable to catch grip and gone straight. The countersteer was made with one tire on the grass, so it sent the car into a vortex.
He didn't 'suddenly steer left', he was countersteering to and suddenly caught a patch of traction, and it swung left. It was a mistake that anyone could have made, I just feel sorry for the poor guy. It doesn't look like he over-corrected because he was already in control of the slide around the corner, but then it switched right.
@SuperLuke68 That would just lead to another accident, the cars are flying in the corner about a speed of 100-150 km/h and if a person gets hit by that speed, he's dead for sure! But i think they managed to help him somehow.
Looked to me like he took the corner to tight and got the back end out, then over-corrected after the kerb and that's pretty much it, he's just a passenger.
tja wenn man gegenlenkt sollte man auch net ruckartig vom gas gehen klar das die räder dann wieder greifen und du in die richtung fährst wo die räder stehen xD
As most cars it has an engine in front and nothing in the rear. So yes =P But I must say this crash was 99% driving style. If he'd slow down, he'd never crashed ;)
CORRECTION! The guy below was right. He is refering to the car going left to right to left which builds momentum and throws the car in a direction i.e. like in the video. It is more commonly refer to as "overcorrecting" , but is basically the same thing. It does not matter if the car has perfect weight distribution, you cant throw it back and forth, especially on a down hill turn.
yep almost all crashes seem to happen there as its one of the slippiest parts of the track, driven it myself and i was takin it easy and i got a handful of oversteer
No, actually the reason you see a lot of crashes there is that it's easy to get to for spectators. It's no worse than any other corners really, blind crest, off camber, hidden dip etc...
"but he countersteered in the wrong direction" <-- hows that possible? you cant counter-steer in the same direction ur already turning :P it was overcompansation..
@feffe85 It wasn't 'overcompensation' it's called snap oversteer. In the car it's like this: turning, turning, too fast no grip, no grip, no grip countersteer and let off throttle ahhh grip ohhh fuck fuckk fuckk brakeeeee too late BANG! go home
I felt he understeered, realized what he had done, but then the tail went out and he went into counter-steer mode, at that point he regains traction and the car veers into the rail because he did NOT need to countersteer that heavily.
TDM is a better all around class light years technologically ahead of that jap shit they race there that doesn't have audience outside jap. TDM is the core of real stock car racing.
How was that 'funny as fuck' you little retard? He crashed his pride and joy and probably injured himself too. Grow some balls get out on track, crash (which you would) and then tell me if you think it's funny. But I doubt you'd put as much effort in as the guy who actually went there to race, too comfortable behind your keyboard no doubt.
@TriumphTR5 But see, he chose to bring his car to the track, so he would have had to think it was worth the possible crash, so if and when he does crash, he'd have to be willing to put up with criticisms. Now I dont find it funny that he crashed, I just felt the need to respond to this. And if whoever you're replying to did do this and crash, wouldn't you then find it 'funny as fuck'?
Forget all the analysis. During competitive driving, people often have to push at the limits, surely sometimes shit happens. Name me ANY one motor racing great who never had an accident...
Come on, are u all fighting for the "best motor sport crash analysis expert" title here or what?
You don't have to crash to push the limits, you don't even have to spin to find the limits. Rick Mears is a good example, when he retires in '93 he ran Indianapolis for 15years, won 4 times, front row 11 times and only hit the wall twice due to mechanical failure (tire) not due to the lack of skill/control.
He was lagging behind and was pushing the car too far. Gotta keep those tires on the track around the high right/right turns. Wicked crash though :/ Looked like it hurt.
i think your playing to many games kid....these guy underestimated RWD Car and how the characteristics are....this is understeer...not ebrake...expecially...when this kind of sport and tuned on difference suspension tuning more of grip and stiffness...camber and toe is all adjusted so by doing that...changes the characteristics of the cars handleing...but quite playing those and accually drift behind the wheel for once...
Late reaction/ too slow turning out of the initial counter steer... very common.. then he had too much countering before the grass/berm (he could have kept the second slide by going over it then quick steering once he hit asphalt again). It was just unfortunate, and this happens to everyone a few times, happened to me too in the mountains. Was very similar to this except I had more room and went in a little ditch with my driver side tires instead of head on.
it looks to me like the cars tires were not meant for that type of driving. let me explain. at around the 15-16 second mark of the vid,,just before the entire loss of control,,you can see the rear end breaking loose that causes the crash. leading me to believe that the tires broke loose and cause the dreaded oversteer condition.
my mistake my original posting of the seconds is wrong. the crash begins to happens at the 17 second mark, this is where you see the rear end losing traction.
Quit being such a tool! Oversteer is a condition that can be induced by a bad driver, not the car. This is an M3, Motorsports 3-series, doing exactly what it is supposed to do.
When i went to the nurburgring (i live in Germany) on a holiday we were dissapointed to find that the day we got there a car racing club, with cars like stripped out M5's and 911 GT3's, had booked the day there. This was probaly something like that.
Was this in an amateur competition race, like Britcar or a continental equivalent? Cos it looks like it. Or is it just a Nurburgring pay-per lap day thing..?
You're right, its nothing to do with it at all, somebody earlier mentioned how this would never happen on NFS or something looool :P He needs to get off his video games and find out what driving is like ;)
Yes, clutching (killing throttle) can help in given situations, but in this case he was going toooo fast, really nothing he could have done to prevent himself from going off track.
yeah ugly BMW.
RICHIWEL 3 weeks ago
Good camerawork. The camera was already off the car to probably focus on the next car, but quicky turned back when the tires screeched.
Therealanimale 3 weeks ago
its just a car = fun
Yamol87 2 months ago
Way she goes buddy.
Gixxer983 2 months ago
is this on nurbourgrin?
boutbout999 5 months ago
@boutbout999
no its on the Nürburgring. Nordschleife to be exactly.
Marauder1981 5 months ago
@boutbout999 Nürburgring
belverin01 2 months ago
nawet sie chuje nie zatrzymały
rkadrian 7 months ago
almost held it aswell
genius7000 7 months ago
Theres not a lot of people at this race show. Probably because the race cars are'nt going very fast.
TheZa1994 7 months ago
noob! did he died?
geppegep 8 months ago
@geppegep Why did you call him a noob? I really wanna see how you make it better. Grow up, boy
FiestaGFJ 8 months ago
@FiestaGFJ cos he is a noob. do it any better? how about no, better to live, than to die like an idiot.
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Richniles 2 months ago
wherefor is it good for - absolutly nothing -
marathonberlin 9 months ago
der kleine schreit Tadeus :)
XxBlackxPitbullxX 9 months ago
how not to drive
K0K4NE 9 months ago
Well, in a game that crash could have been avoided if he had not countersteer. Since the car is RWD, and the traction was lost at the front because the gas cut off, if he only gave it gas again and kept the tires straight, after the grass the car would have been hable to catch grip and gone straight. The countersteer was made with one tire on the grass, so it sent the car into a vortex.
PD666 9 months ago
He had it until it just grabbed hard, and with those racing tires it just got thrown.
Onelastshot04 9 months ago
0:19 der drift war so perfekt, warum lenkt er nach links?!?!?
fifficus 11 months ago
@fifficus He correctly steers wheel to the left until one poiont otherwise he would carsh instantly on the right.
His mistake was he took foot from throtthe, and even worse, hit the brakes.
dicktp 9 months ago
guts man .
RIDEBMX416 1 year ago
He didn't 'suddenly steer left', he was countersteering to and suddenly caught a patch of traction, and it swung left. It was a mistake that anyone could have made, I just feel sorry for the poor guy. It doesn't look like he over-corrected because he was already in control of the slide around the corner, but then it switched right.
Scarffo123 1 year ago
he should complete the drift not steer that hard to the left
95115964 1 year ago
Like how noone goes to help him!
SuperLuke68 1 year ago
@SuperLuke68 That would just lead to another accident, the cars are flying in the corner about a speed of 100-150 km/h and if a person gets hit by that speed, he's dead for sure! But i think they managed to help him somehow.
Henri2902 1 year ago
nurburgring nordschleife whorst track ever... (but i love it the races on it)
noobiecf 1 year ago
I hope that guy is ok!
Looked to me like he took the corner to tight and got the back end out, then over-corrected after the kerb and that's pretty much it, he's just a passenger.
cpmisalive 1 year ago
aus fehlern lernt man
marty2721 1 year ago
tja wenn man gegenlenkt sollte man auch net ruckartig vom gas gehen klar das die räder dann wieder greifen und du in die richtung fährst wo die räder stehen xD
fuchsewilli 1 year ago
What he did wrong was suddenly turn left. Not a good idea.
niall456 1 year ago
@niall456 The car oversteered and as he was correcting it it caught grip. When that happens, you're just along for the ride.
gp75motorsports 1 year ago 6
either master having traction and stability control turned off if not leave it on
AntDX316 1 year ago
the unforgiving green hell
nooka007 1 year ago 4
dont take your tbird around this track they are clownshoes you will surely die
kaaoszx 1 year ago
i want to take my 1979 tbird around this track lol i just hope this doesnt happen to me :)
ceooner 1 year ago
die BMW, die...
FedskaTheOne 1 year ago
@FedskaTheOne i'm satisfied for more than a day now ;)
jogijxxx 1 year ago
good BMW driver, at least he was able to move the car over to the shoulder.
kameraguy 1 year ago
komme auch aus velbert
Birtherforlife 2 years ago
@Birtherforlife Tooooooooooool
freddydasmesser 1 year ago
Klarer Fahrerfehler! Wer einmal ein Drifttraining absolviert hat, weisß wie man in solchen Situationen zu reagieren hat.
Steubel 2 years ago
my god those marshalls are quick! he hadn't even hit the barrier and they were already waving the flag
inurkiewicz 2 years ago 2
@inurkiewicz well its not that hard when you see and hear the car going sideways and its pretty much near impossible to recover...
dacksoldier 1 year ago
that is why the Nurburgring has claimed over 250 deaths.
billygoatdawg081992 2 years ago
29 actually!
Montoya2005 2 years ago
what! seriously? I heard it was over 250. Guess they were wrong!
billygoatdawg081992 2 years ago
yeah I thought it would be more but officially its 29 and people crashing on open track days are probably 1000's !
Montoya2005 2 years ago
its funny because the 29 deaths are only the ones pronounced dead at the ring, the ones that die in the hospital later are indeed well over 250.
88powerofdreams88 2 years ago
@88powerofdreams88 Bullshit.
SjaakieT 2 years ago
dont bullshit me, they only count the ones pronounced death at the ring. look it up
88powerofdreams88 2 years ago
i realy like your nickname...:)
sraf88 2 years ago
damn how i would love to race on the Nurburgring
tribaldrummergod 2 years ago
@tribaldrummergod, grab your car drive to german wait for an open day, and race round, its amazing what people take round, vans, mini buses, etc lol
dergangedchipmunk 1 year ago
comooooon..just give up racing...tu expensive 4 u...
silviubmw323 2 years ago
i bet he was talking with cell phone, i can save that manuva with a cup of coffee in one hand without droping the coffee :)
montevideoGT 2 years ago 3
LOL? talking on cellphone on a track..?
airn2p 2 years ago
violent
CoLoToKo 2 years ago
nearly caught it - but ran out of track.
3000ST1 2 years ago
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Ouch, looked like understeer into snap-oversteer. Bad luck.
ramv36 2 years ago
Yeah...
airn2p 2 years ago
-4 I see...anyone care to correct me?
ramv36 2 years ago
lol he nearly held it
alecgoodwin 2 years ago
It's a tribute from the fans.
Otternase420 2 years ago
Hey whats with all the writing on the track?
terminator363 2 years ago
i heard that its just from people that climb on track and just write on it. probs rubbish please correct if wrong
Hazaunwin 2 years ago
Really? you mean like graffiti!?
terminator363 2 years ago
apparently so.
Hazaunwin 2 years ago
so stupid, :(
terminator363 2 years ago
People write stuff on the track ... what part do you not understand exactly ?
qwerty123456789jhdtg 2 years ago 2
Nordschleife The best !
little15nl 2 years ago
overcouterstear klare sache
Andreas1986xyz 2 years ago
Sad. At least he is doing in a track, not in a public highway.
1latinoguy 2 years ago 52
@1latinoguy just buy GrantTurismo :))
MrSupercoolman09 1 year ago
was the driver injured?
gdgdgfdggfdfg 2 years ago
einfach zerlegt...
herzglass 2 years ago
sad...
heatronack 2 years ago
Ich vermute den häufigsten Fehler...
Zu sehr gegengelenkt bzw zu spät wieder aufgemacht..dann kommt die kiste genau in die gegenentsetzte richtung...und dann knallts zu 80%
BmwMPow3r 2 years ago
Da kann ich dir nur zustimmen.
Das erkennt man gut daran, das sich das Auto bis zum Moment des Aufpralls um 180 Grad gedereht hat, also sich mit dem Heck in Fahrtrichtung befand.
knackebrot 2 years ago
I saw shit like this all the time, except at Road Atlanta. I am thinking he put brakes on too hard and lost it, maybe I am wrong tho
pck3 2 years ago
he started sliding and overcorrected
submitaweasel 2 years ago 2
the green hell guys that expains everything
fountasp10 2 years ago 4
did anyone actually come down to see if driver was ok??? seems to me nobody cares for driver's life, people are just interesting in races....
dinamit875 2 years ago
be reet! lmao
enjoichris411 2 years ago
If you go running out onto the track before the marshalls have calmed the approaching cars you are risking more lives.
venquessa 2 years ago
bad weight transfer
Soulvex 2 years ago 2
As most cars it has an engine in front and nothing in the rear. So yes =P But I must say this crash was 99% driving style. If he'd slow down, he'd never crashed ;)
kekke2000 2 years ago
Wrong. M3 has almost 50%-50% weight distribution, so its not about that.
derbigpr500 2 years ago
correct, M3 has just about perfectly balanced weigh distribution.
JeffroGymnast 2 years ago
CORRECTION! The guy below was right. He is refering to the car going left to right to left which builds momentum and throws the car in a direction i.e. like in the video. It is more commonly refer to as "overcorrecting" , but is basically the same thing. It does not matter if the car has perfect weight distribution, you cant throw it back and forth, especially on a down hill turn.
Physics is a bitch!
lexluthor400 2 years ago
ah, yeah thats something different entirely. He came in with the back sliding right, then pulled it around to the left, and lost it. too much gas
JeffroGymnast 2 years ago
That happens all the time in there. People get desperate and over-compensate and dont have enough time to see what they are doing.
jose7777777777777777 2 years ago 2
oversteered and turned the wheel past opposite lock i.e. he over compensated
mattslbbr 2 years ago
noooooooooooooooooooooo
snoopymko 3 years ago
does that corner have the most crashes seems 3/4 of vids i see are crashes on that corner.
jonokiller 3 years ago
yep almost all crashes seem to happen there as its one of the slippiest parts of the track, driven it myself and i was takin it easy and i got a handful of oversteer
99shill 3 years ago
No, actually the reason you see a lot of crashes there is that it's easy to get to for spectators. It's no worse than any other corners really, blind crest, off camber, hidden dip etc...
fulanilovincriminal 2 years ago
eidadautz.
entenknie 3 years ago
These races aren't very exciting but man do those cars sound great
THEkingjaymz 3 years ago
he shoulda kept his wheels facing the direction of the road and he might just have drifted out of the corner
sqwakiller 3 years ago
he zigged where he should have zagged...
he was sliding it into the apex of the corner really nice @ 00.20, but he countersteered in the wrong direction
bennie1980 3 years ago
"but he countersteered in the wrong direction" <-- hows that possible? you cant counter-steer in the same direction ur already turning :P it was overcompansation..
feffe85 3 years ago 27
@feffe85 It wasn't 'overcompensation' it's called snap oversteer. In the car it's like this: turning, turning, too fast no grip, no grip, no grip countersteer and let off throttle ahhh grip ohhh fuck fuckk fuckk brakeeeee too late BANG! go home
TheMadkent 6 months ago 9
I felt he understeered, realized what he had done, but then the tail went out and he went into counter-steer mode, at that point he regains traction and the car veers into the rail because he did NOT need to countersteer that heavily.
ownage2214 2 years ago
so sad:(
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bopoopy 3 years ago
Faggot..
eloidor 3 years ago
TDM is a better all around class light years technologically ahead of that jap shit they race there that doesn't have audience outside jap. TDM is the core of real stock car racing.
eloidor 3 years ago
Hope that guy was ok
Vampyre000 3 years ago
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lol take that DTM
TRD and JDm 4 ever!!
Sonicku 3 years ago
This is what E36 M3 always do. When you need oversteer you must do it carefully, because she always will return too fast and spin...
lecodiniz 3 years ago
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thats funny as fuck little man was pissed
12344bam 3 years ago
How was that 'funny as fuck' you little retard? He crashed his pride and joy and probably injured himself too. Grow some balls get out on track, crash (which you would) and then tell me if you think it's funny. But I doubt you'd put as much effort in as the guy who actually went there to race, too comfortable behind your keyboard no doubt.
Prick.
TriumphTR5 3 years ago 66
yeah thats what makes it funny
12344bam 3 years ago
@TriumphTR5 damn agreed agreed, wel put
MrRUDEEN 1 year ago
@TriumphTR5 But see, he chose to bring his car to the track, so he would have had to think it was worth the possible crash, so if and when he does crash, he'd have to be willing to put up with criticisms. Now I dont find it funny that he crashed, I just felt the need to respond to this. And if whoever you're replying to did do this and crash, wouldn't you then find it 'funny as fuck'?
XxTabasc0xX 1 year ago
@TriumphTR5 VEREH FUNNY. DID HE DIED?
matt91gee 11 months ago
HAHA U GOT OWNED
j00h00st 3 years ago
ur mom got owned last night hhahaha
12344bam 3 years ago 5
she didnt!
j00h00st 3 years ago
yeah she did and she got owned again to day
12344bam 3 years ago 5
there is another clip of this same corner of a civic type r smashing the sidewall too
siriussr 3 years ago
lol
MuMznr17 3 years ago
you gotta be awake to push it to the limit on the ring
davervr6 4 years ago
und der 190er benz schaft du kurve einfach
audinoob 4 years ago
Der Fahrer kommt aus Velbert? Oder ist damit der Kamera-Mann gemeint?
fgfgh5h 4 years ago
Der Kameramann... Der Fahrer kommt aus dem Münsterland.
terralein1982 3 years ago
hello to you to bud
chuckcluck1 3 years ago
Forget all the analysis. During competitive driving, people often have to push at the limits, surely sometimes shit happens. Name me ANY one motor racing great who never had an accident...
Come on, are u all fighting for the "best motor sport crash analysis expert" title here or what?
punkypink83 4 years ago 26
Agreed
Alexgibbo5 4 years ago 2
You don't have to crash to push the limits, you don't even have to spin to find the limits. Rick Mears is a good example, when he retires in '93 he ran Indianapolis for 15years, won 4 times, front row 11 times and only hit the wall twice due to mechanical failure (tire) not due to the lack of skill/control.
Vova993 3 years ago
He was lagging behind and was pushing the car too far. Gotta keep those tires on the track around the high right/right turns. Wicked crash though :/ Looked like it hurt.
alwcurlz 3 years ago
It can happen,but I see too many people drive fast with poor basics.A sport driving school
is suggested,and it is worth the money.
You'll be running faster and safer on tracks and in everyday's driving=
indigoblue555 4 years ago
I can say... Wrong Reaction... the speed No was Enought to Get out of the way... He used the brake and voila, he losed the control...
rolinjet 4 years ago
i think your playing to many games kid....these guy underestimated RWD Car and how the characteristics are....this is understeer...not ebrake...expecially...when this kind of sport and tuned on difference suspension tuning more of grip and stiffness...camber and toe is all adjusted so by doing that...changes the characteristics of the cars handleing...but quite playing those and accually drift behind the wheel for once...
msyxtyx 3 years ago
just so you know its oversteer not understeer
valo666meh 3 years ago 2
Late reaction/ too slow turning out of the initial counter steer... very common.. then he had too much countering before the grass/berm (he could have kept the second slide by going over it then quick steering once he hit asphalt again). It was just unfortunate, and this happens to everyone a few times, happened to me too in the mountains. Was very similar to this except I had more room and went in a little ditch with my driver side tires instead of head on.
pucsicsal 4 years ago
Was he ok?
mybizuk 4 years ago
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lol he stupid
chayakarnwat2 4 years ago
bad tires
djinnbladee 4 years ago
it looks to me like the cars tires were not meant for that type of driving. let me explain. at around the 15-16 second mark of the vid,,just before the entire loss of control,,you can see the rear end breaking loose that causes the crash. leading me to believe that the tires broke loose and cause the dreaded oversteer condition.
myvidss 4 years ago
my mistake my original posting of the seconds is wrong. the crash begins to happens at the 17 second mark, this is where you see the rear end losing traction.
myvidss 4 years ago
Quit being such a tool! Oversteer is a condition that can be induced by a bad driver, not the car. This is an M3, Motorsports 3-series, doing exactly what it is supposed to do.
Lev08e39M5 4 years ago 2
nah the body roll got him, as he turned and the car over steered the body rolled the other way in this case u cant do much
Ae86loverkurt 4 years ago
:-( that poor creature...
Ziofbv 4 years ago
Lift oversteer .... sucks.
r56mini 4 years ago
lift over steer FOR THE LOSE!
Jager1988 4 years ago
gotta love the way some gameboy internerds feel they can offer pro drivers advice on lift off oversteer... you guys crack me up : )
jason0mayer 4 years ago 5
Ahhh lift-off oversteer, caused me to crash too. Reckon he could have held it if had stayed on the throttle a little longer.
knockoutkid1 4 years ago 3
warum hat der eingedreht??
crunk001 4 years ago
When i went to the nurburgring (i live in Germany) on a holiday we were dissapointed to find that the day we got there a car racing club, with cars like stripped out M5's and 911 GT3's, had booked the day there. This was probaly something like that.
crazydb7 4 years ago
Was this in an amateur competition race, like Britcar or a continental equivalent? Cos it looks like it. Or is it just a Nurburgring pay-per lap day thing..?
ALCUS52 4 years ago
fool ur a fool drive m3 play need for speed most wanted plzzzz you will see
epalakotalaga 4 years ago
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Need for Speed is a game.
CashewBoyLiam 4 years ago
Need for Speed is a poor simulation of real driving. A fantastic game but not an accurate simulation.
AlonsoLegend 4 years ago
LOL?? What? What does that have to do with anything, this is real.
TonicEnergy 4 years ago
You're right, its nothing to do with it at all, somebody earlier mentioned how this would never happen on NFS or something looool :P He needs to get off his video games and find out what driving is like ;)
AlonsoLegend 4 years ago
HAHA! lol, I appologize, I stand corrected =D ...NFS...oh my god...
TonicEnergy 4 years ago
no problem I'd have said the same :P
AlonsoLegend 4 years ago
he could of drifted that corner if ne dint cut the wheel to the left
RalphRexMurphyBimbo 4 years ago
ouch....
Blazerx88x 4 years ago
just clutch and keep the steering wheel calm ... nothing will haben ... steering left will kill you lol!
hgfecba 4 years ago
Yes, clutching (killing throttle) can help in given situations, but in this case he was going toooo fast, really nothing he could have done to prevent himself from going off track.
TonicEnergy 4 years ago
but it wouldnt have ended soooo extremly bad!
hgfecba 4 years ago
thats hurt. hope driver is ok.
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Maddox960 4 years ago
daaaaaaaaamn
wat he try to drift lol
devantedude27 4 years ago
took it too fast
jonas7473 4 years ago
The wall was firm than I expected.
kitosan1986 4 years ago
My mate did exactly the same at the same place 2.15 on 13/5/07....in my merc..he's ok... anybody got video?
wooftydog 4 years ago
owned...
jakehalo 4 years ago
Haha! I'm joking. I love M3s. Hope the driver was alright afterwards.
skaterkid901 4 years ago
One less M3 :(
davesideways 5 years ago
you got it.
PanoramaS3S 4 years ago
OMG
aosgang 5 years ago
ow shit...
ReneBMWM3Power 5 years ago
Esses caras das bandeiras amarelas foram rápidos, einh!!! hehe...
karlosjr 4 years ago