For me The Ori are like the Christian Crusaders, when say we send our soldiers out there to convert the wicked and kill all infidels who resist. Sounds to me like monotheistic propaganda masquerading as science fiction. Or perhaps the Islamic equivalent of a Jihad. The Ori presented a religious parallel with history from centuries go. Stargate for me was crap science fiction, never could hold my interest for more than three seasons. Not like Farscape. Farscape was supreme, original sci fi.
that was the incomplete class prototype, they used it's self-destruct sequence to destroy two Replicator controlled warships headed for an Asgard planet, by this time the Asgard had put the O'neill class into production, as for it's effectiveness, none of the ships in this clip had any luck penetrating the Ori shields, including the O'neill class.
@nbates66 This is because Asgard first need to analyze the ships. They never dealt with ORI tech before. They mostly fought with replicators and used all their resources, knowledge and tech to combat the replicators who would just consume the tech and then Asgard would start all over again. A lot for knowledge came from Ancient depositories. Even when they absorbed info from Jack when he came to them, that helped them a bit. Plus, Asgard focus on defense of their ships so no tech is taken.
Actually, the O'neill Class that was destroyed was just the prototype to the production model seen here. It's sleeker and more powerful than the one destroyed. I'm just concerned at the fact that it did so little damage...
They odyssey is better equipped with beam weapons which are a hell a lot more effective against Ori shields because the beam focuses on one small area of the shields and pops it like popping a balloon with a pin. However, the vessels could of one the fight if they had coordinated their fight to hit one spot of the shield thus breaching it and destroying the ship.
1. Adria -the leader of the invading Ori Forces? -who begins an attack, when the leader is not yet... avaible?
2. Superior technology -with 0 tactical skills. - after this battle the Ori Battlecrusiers should've marched agains Dakara (the capital of the Free Jaffa Nation), or against Earth or against the Lucian Alliance.
3. ....because these were the strongest who could oppose them... and they must have known it, since the priors arrived many months ago... ergo: ZeRo reconnaissance.
In the ark of truth. It specifically states that the odyssey has a zpm on it. thats why near the end when the replicators are trying to take control of it, 4 ori motherships continually shoot at the odyssey for at least 10 minutes with the shield only going to 18%. that must have been at least a hundred hits. remember a zpm can make the shields so powerful it can withstand a solar flare, much less a weak ori main cannon.
there were more adnvanced races in milky way that werent invited to the fight, like the ones carter help win a race, and the ones who got stuck with the phrometeus on a nebulosa
i mean they could have had an episode of sg1 trying to convice them, and they agreeing because of the important threath the ori was, something like that.
No reason to assume that the Ori ships wouldn't have been destroyed; even piercing their shields it took multiple hits from the new Asgard weapons in the last ep to actually destroy an Ori mothership. It's reasonable to assume that they wouldn't have done significant damage; at most maybe they could have blown a window out or something :P
when the Ori ships came thru the gate the Ori ship's shields weren't up so the "alliance" ships would have hit em direct on with all their firepower hitting one ship at a time would have taken the Ori ship out and the resulting explosion would have helped to destroy the next ship coming thru the gate
The only reference to anything powering up was that they were powering their weapons; as far as I can tell there's nothing to indicate that the shields were not raised as they were coming through the gate. Plus as I said, it took a lot to take an Ori mothership out even with it's shields penetrated, and one would also assume that the ships could have comparable strength to the supergate - which wasn't destroyed by being fired at by the Jaffa.
since ships don't have their shields raised during hyperspace flight we can assume the Ori didn't have em raised.. remember when Fifth's replicator ship came out of hyperspace at the Asgard's new home world and the Asgard were able to blast it because it didn't have time to raise it's shields as it came out of hyperspace..the Ori ships took several blast of the new Asgard weapons since the beams had to penetrate deplete the shields before hitting the ship
The Ori ships came out of a gate, not from hyperspace.
And in "Unending" you can see that it took multiple impacts to the actual hull of the Ori ships that were destroyed before they exploded. Given the amount of firepower the shields of those ships were shown to have taken and thus the amount of power that would have been required to pierce them, it can be assumed that if it takes multiple hits with a weapon that can break their shields to kill them, then lower power weapons won't do it.
In "The Road Not Taken" there's a reference to it; apparently the weapon in Antartica was just a match for an Ori mothership. I would assume that Ancient bases have more firewpower than an Ancient warship, so they probably would have lost even with an ancient warship there. Though they may have been able to damage/destroy one of the Ori ships.
yep they developed the beam technology after contact with and fighting the Ori ..they also developed new stronger shields .. like all wars it advances military technology
Oh man! Our alliance of free Jaffar, Asgard, Tok'ra, and our own ships got their asses handed to them by those Ori ships! Everyone will need to regroup and think of another way to defeat those Ori ships!
not so sure, because daneil jackson beam him self aboard, if they hadent hit the ship there, they would have beam the bomb aboard, and with only one Ori ship, they would have got more time
no they wouldn't...the Ori are the same as the ancients but than the evil way...both got very strong weapons...and the ori ships beam needs only 2 shots to destroy the tauri ships...and only 1 for the goa'uld ships
in here it took 2 or so shots to take out a tauri ship. but in ark of truth the odyssey took like 10 shots and it didnt get destroyed(but yeah i know they got newer sheilds later on)
I thought Odyssey in Ark of Truth had a ZPM powering it's cloak? That mixed with the Asgard enhancements would mean much stronger shields I guess. We know the Daedalus can make the trip to Atlantis in a matter of days instead of it taking 2 weeks with a ZPM plugged in.
I dont remember seeing them install a ZPM on the Odyssey in Ark of Truth. I know we have 3 ZPM's(1 on earth, another on atlantis, and yeah i think the last is used by the Daedalus though im not really sure). I know the Daedalus used the 3rd ZPM to defend Atlantis from the solar flare. But im not sure if they continued to use it after cause if they did the daedalus would've put up a bigger fight against the "super" hive ship on the last ep. of SGA. Apollo said they were venting atmosphere.
But no, on the last episode of SG-1 the Asgard outfitted the Odyssey with more advanced sheilds, beam weapons, and the rest of Asgard tech. Im pretty sure the Odyssey wasnt using a ZPM cause i never saw them put it in. The reason how they cloaked the Odyssey was because Carter found out how Jackson cloaked the ship when he was a prior. And by the way does anyone know, what top secret mission the Odyssey was on that it couldn't help defend earth from the super hive ship? does anyone know lol
Fairly sure when Jackson hijacks the Odyssey with O'Neill and heads to the supergate he says they're cloaked. When asked how he says something like 'it's complicated, and needs a ZPM'.
I could be COMPLETELY wrong, but I remember something like that quite vividly when O'Niell asks if Jackson is bothered about the Ori ship.
hmm, i dont remember that. i mean i do, but not the zpm part. gahh its been awhile since i seen that episode. I just remember when asked how jackson cloaked the ship by Carter Jackson replied i dont know. But i remember on the last ep. of SG-1 the Odyssey took similar hits from the Ori when leaving the Asgard planet. I think about 4 or 5 & they didnt have a ZPM. This is a good question to ask Cooper or Wright cause i dont remember seeing a ZPM on Ark of Truth & i seen it like 10 times
If i remember correctly they had an asgard core computer and Odisey was full of asgard improvements so that might have been why they didn't die on the second shot. I think Thor even said that the computer shouldn't interfere with the ships ZPM powered computer, but i'm not 100% sure
the Odyssey took more than 2 hits on the last ep. of SG-1, and i think we didnt have 3 ZPM's yet on that episode so theres no way the Odyssey could've had one. The only ZPM we had was on Atlantis. So there, that proves my theory that it was the new advance sheilds that defended the Odyssey from more than 2 hits
Odyssey definitely had a ZPM in the last ep, Carter makes a reference that they can't reverse time because the ZPM is nearly depleted from running the time dilation field for so long.
As to why the Odyssey could have taken more hits than the Korolev in this ep, the Odyssey was an operational ship at the time, whereas the Korolev was rushed in to service. I'd say it's possible the Korolev's shields weren't quite up to par with the Odyssey's at the time.
Ori shields function on a different principle from most shields used in our galaxy. Ori shields take the power from weapons fired at them, and use that power to sustain the shield. They cannot be drained, rather, they must be overloaded, which is why beam weapons work better than pulse weapons. The O'niell class couldn't destroy them because it was using pulse weapons, not beams. Now...a million hat'taks if they all fired at the exact same time could overload the shield and destroy the ship.
I was wondering why the Ori motherships cut through 2 X-304, 1 O'Neill class Asgard ship and that many Ha'tak ships so easily. Thank you for your comment
they dnt draw power from the weapons fired at them coz bra'tac rams a fully functioning hatak into the ori mothership in orbit over chulakwithout firing at it and it causes no damage to the ship, your thiking of the shield that the priors use to collapse a planet into i micro singularity durin the creation of a supergate
@SG1Ryu We use naquadria to power our ships instead of naquada like the ha'taks use. Naquadria gives away more power and are more effective to use as an power source
The O'Neill class starships were built to fight the Replicators; they were indeed warships. They just couldn't compete with technology developed Ascended beings.
the ori ships are likely powered by vacuum energy(aka project Arcturus) which means their shields wouldnt be drained by anything so you could crash a planet into it with no effect
Project arcturus gives infinite energy but limited power i think, or at least the shield emitter being built on machines can only handle so much power flowing through them.
I too think the Ori shields are strain based and do not deplete over time with being shot at.
However, as strain based shields it should be possible to overwhelm them with a good amount of energy delivered fast enough.
All ships of the armada shooting one ori ship at the same time.
but that was built by the ancients before they ascended
whereas the ori ships were built using ascended knowledge
the asgar beam weapons are extremely powerful and still take a few shots to take out the ori shields so even if the entire fleet fired upon one ship at a time it would still take a few minutes to take it out
i seriously doubt they could have taken out a ship that way before they were destroyed
Why should something that was basically jury-rigged onto a Tauri ship be stronger than an O'Neill class?
Furthermore, they say that the Ori shields "fluctuate". In my opinion its more logical to say that the beam weapons (powerful as they are) created a resonance in the Ori shields. More shots meant a higher amplitude in the "fluctuation" making the Ori-Shields fluctuate from very strong to very weak.
Of course, that alone doesn't make them collaps, but with more shots, the amplitude of the fluctuation increses and at one point the minimum of it should go below zero. As this is impossible, the shield emitter stumbles and shuts down in order to reboot giving an attacking ship enough time to damage or destroy the ship.
Keep in mind that this explanation is only my preferred one as I doubt the logic of a jury-rigged system being that much stronger than an O'Neill class, even if possibly ancient
technology based. (strange this is the first time I can post 3 comments in a row, so please excuse the crowdedness of comment #2 as I thought I was running out of space)
thats because you underestimate ancient technology, the asgard energy core may be advanced but it is nowhere near as advanced as the ancient energy devices
I'm gonna assume that you meant to write "other ships".
And you're right, they would.
It was merely meant as an idea how strong the shields are.
However, if all ships were firing, some energy of the first salvo would bleed through and damage/destroy one of the ori ships. The others though would in the meantime destroy enough allied ships that this can't happen again.
I know! It's also tough not being able to do anything but just sit and watch while your friends and allies get slaughtered like poor Sam Carter had to do.
The x-304's could only take 2 hits. When the Ori fired for the fist time and hit the odessey their shields went down to 50%. After they got the asgard upgrades before they blow the planet up they incressed their shield power. Aloowing them to take more hits.
They didnt have a ZPM at that time. Remember The first one they had, the one o'neill used to power the drone chair got used up when they sent the team to atlantis the first time. The second one they found they sent to atlantis to help them fend off the seige.
well....it´s curious that the first hit was so effective. But the Korolev could only be destroyed by -3- hits! The first one was the opening fire and then the ori used 2 more shots: 1 for the shield and the third for totally destroying ;)
They may have been able to increase the shields output. During Unending, they had only just received the new upgrades and had no time to fine tune them. The Asgard did give them there ENTIRE datebase. Im sure there is a big section marked "Weapons".
But the Odessey was already equiped with Asguard shields, that is why they had to have an Asguard in there crew for a while. Prohaps they upgraded using the ancient database on Atlantis, or the Replicator did something in the movie Ark Of Truth. They did after all get a Gauld Hatak to go faster then any other ship Gauld ship at the time, on the episode when they returned, and Apophis died.
I think that they may have upgraded the Oddessey's power generation. The Oddessey may have all kinds of new toys but the main powercore is still Human(mostly) and therefore it cant handle putting the shields and engines at full power, otherwise the whole thing may go boom.
That is true. When they had the Dadalist go to the pegusist galaxy for the first time, to save Atlantis from the Wraith, they needed a ZPM to get there faster, and when they had to save Atlantis from some solar eruption, they had to use Atlantis's ZPM to increase the shields and deflect the wave. Probable has to do with power.
Naquadah generator power the 304s and while they are powerful they arnt powerful enough to keep the Asgard shields and plasma beams going at full bore for long.
Also during the Siege of Atlantis, Hermiod said without the ZPM Dedaelus wouldnt be able to keep her shields as long.
I always liked this scene. And I dont think that they will destroy an Ori ship even if they concentrate all their fire. Why? to show everyone just how powerfull they are.
Someone has the music from the battle? I dont find it anywere.
I'd like to those Ori tiolet ships withstand a blast from some quantum torpedos fired from the USS Defiant! Those babies would right through their shields!
Star Trek is 300 years ahead of current Earth in tech...the Goa'uld are 500...that Leaves the rest of the more advanced Stargate Races....if an Asgard mothership could kill a Ha'tak in a couple of shots then a Federation ship will last less than 10 seconds..IMHO a Sovereign Class ship is a match for the Normal Ha'tak Mothership
I tend to think that a galaxy has about the same shield strenght as a standard ha'tak. (600PJ) with a sovereign being stronger (1500PJ).
Of course neither is as strong as a daedalus here (1800PJ) and these here aren't even post-unending specs yet.
Federation phasers don't have the strenght necessary to do much damage, so the only way would be torpedos, at which point I again think a galaxy to be equal to a ha'tak.
(please note that I don't buy into the 250Mt ha'tak cannons)
I agree with most of waht you are saying...minus the normal 304s shields;) Asgard shields are really powerful;) A sovie does have more better weapons than a Ha'tak but the shield I think are at a similar level;)
Put yourself in their shoes; Maybe because the supergate is approximately 1,000m in diameter vs the gate on Earth which is about 5-6m in diameter. Now how could you build a device this magnitude not to mention where and how would you get all that titanium or any other material necessary to build such a massive shield? That would be like an engineering marvel in SG not to mention the year it would take to build.
Oh you meant the one in Atlantis! Well the stargate itself doesn't have a shield of its own but instead is provided from the control room which puts a shield around it. So the answer is no. Even if they tried to put a shielding device on the supergate, it would be impossible for such a large structure especially if it would require unimaginable amount of energy to power up the shield and maintain its operation for long periods of time.
I still don't understand how ships take damage THROUGH the shields? It's pretty pointless if your shields don't protect you, especially if those shields are still up, yet your ship is totally f*cked on the inside. I've heard a lot of techno-babble about how the internal explosions and such are from the feedback/overloads caused by energy weapons, but seems pretty implausible on it's own.
i agree with what ur saying about the shields , how can it be possible; The sheild is like a bubble around the ship and there is SPACE between the ship and the sheild so how the hell does the oddessey take damage, until the sheild fails lol
The shields don't protect the ship from all of the energy. It takes the brunt of the blast, but residual energy basically bleeds through the shields and causes damage to the ship.
I would agree if we didn't see the energy get pushed off around the bubble of the shield. And for it to cause as much damage to the ship as it did without actuallly going through the shields is ridiculous, especially to such a specific system like sub-light engines on the Daedalus.
right, ive said this before, i will say it again. its a television series. There are quite a lot of factual errors in the series, like how neutronium dont collapse the planet into a mini black hole, sound in space, and so on. however i dont complain. because its a television series designed to entertain, and im entertained. so i dont give a damn about scientific errors, and i sure as hell dont try to be smart about them, for honestly, who cares?
Ok, Mr. 'It's-just-a-show,' let me quote someone FROM this show ABOUT this show (and others):
"Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."
So BITE ME if I'm one of the intelligent ones, but you probably love "Weapons to maximum!" don't you? And when did I bring up neutronium. I was talking about shields, and this show isn't the only one to do it, so it's more of a genre mistake than a SG mistake.
No, im not someone who just loves "weapons at maximum". I like quality entertainment, not just limited to sci fi and special effects. I however dont bother with details. if they want to trade some realism for a better epidode, fine. and about the neutronium, it was an example, my point being that to make a good scifi show, it cant be all realism. if i wanted realism i could look out my window.
The creators and developers chose to place this in a present-day, realistic manner. Everything should be as close to 'reality' as possible (the USAF, current time period, nations, etc) with only one sci-fi element: the stargate. My point is that if they want to keep it in the world we know, they have to be careful of making unrealistic mistakes that shatter 'suspension of disbelief,' especially after they spend hours of explaining how things work, like the stargate. Go look out your window, then
you didnt rally listen to what i said right? I said that if i wanted compleate realism id look outside my window. but i dont want total realism when i watch stargate, i want quality entertainment. and if thwy want to sacrifice a bit of realism in order to improve the quality of the show, then fine by me.
also one thing, instead of just looking for errors, you might want to look for the (somtimes obvious) explenasions too.
the shields are like the magnetic field around the earth.. it can disipate the power of energy weapons but some of the energy will get thru like if a solar flare hits the earth's megnetic field it defects some of the energy but some will get thru and hit the atmosphere and earth's surface. that's what is causing the shorting out of the electronics etc.
Well it is better than no shields at all and taking the full blast head on. At least the shields block most of the energy. But of coarse since it is a constant concentrated blast of energy a cumulative amount of residual energy will get through and damage systems, like sub-light engines. Also I would suspect that some ship systems would be more fragile and susceptible the the blast energy.
higuy: Yeah, I know shields are better than no shields, and at least the fact that the Asgard gave them to the Daedelus/Korelev was a good reason they survived so many hits, unlike the Hat'ak ships that get killed in one hit. Also, it is worthy to note that later the shields can take several direct hits, and some don't cause any damage, like in "Unending," where the shield go down to 28%, but everything is still working. Shows improvement of the shield concept and possible upgrades.
before the asgard died off they installed improved shields and weapons and of course the asgard core... shields apparently need to be recharged when hit by an energy weapon it drains them so with every hit it weakens their power in proportion to the amount of energy disipated.
do not forget in addition to the asgard core and improved shields the odyssey had a fully powered ZPM on board. but asgard shields still are effective against ori beam weapons.
For me The Ori are like the Christian Crusaders, when say we send our soldiers out there to convert the wicked and kill all infidels who resist. Sounds to me like monotheistic propaganda masquerading as science fiction. Or perhaps the Islamic equivalent of a Jihad. The Ori presented a religious parallel with history from centuries go. Stargate for me was crap science fiction, never could hold my interest for more than three seasons. Not like Farscape. Farscape was supreme, original sci fi.
akatsukimercenary 1 year ago
The best cliffhanger in sci-fi series, no doubt about it.
bbenjoe 1 year ago
Thanks for not effing up the audio (I was becoming negativemotional but now I can celebrate life, liberty, and the pursuit of stargate)!
hatchetman29 1 year ago
Whats the names of the two Tauri ships? I believe on of them are Oddessey? And it seems one of them gets owned in the end?
Significanto 1 year ago
the one that gets destroyed is a russian ship called the korolev.
zzxcvb98 1 year ago
@Significanto its odyssey and korolev.
HawkXe 1 year ago
@Significanto The amerikan: Odessey and the russian: Korelev
IAMSilentdeath 1 year ago
whats the music that starts at 4:33?
halorulesyourface 1 year ago
Sam has a front row seat, lol that would be awesome and scary to witness that battle in a spacesuit
jugboy222 1 year ago
why is archaic/yoda sentence structure supposed to sound cooler. "the ori are hallowed" --> "hallowed are the ori"...
zzxcvb98 1 year ago
"Hallowed are the Ori."
Chris940807 1 year ago
Is it me, or did the O'neil Class barely do any damage to it??
SANCTIOND 1 year ago
The O'neill Class battleship was destroyed in a battle against the Replicators.
xAMDx 1 year ago
that was the incomplete class prototype, they used it's self-destruct sequence to destroy two Replicator controlled warships headed for an Asgard planet, by this time the Asgard had put the O'neill class into production, as for it's effectiveness, none of the ships in this clip had any luck penetrating the Ori shields, including the O'neill class.
nbates66 1 year ago
@nbates66 This is because Asgard first need to analyze the ships. They never dealt with ORI tech before. They mostly fought with replicators and used all their resources, knowledge and tech to combat the replicators who would just consume the tech and then Asgard would start all over again. A lot for knowledge came from Ancient depositories. Even when they absorbed info from Jack when he came to them, that helped them a bit. Plus, Asgard focus on defense of their ships so no tech is taken.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
Actually, the O'neill Class that was destroyed was just the prototype to the production model seen here. It's sleeker and more powerful than the one destroyed. I'm just concerned at the fact that it did so little damage...
SANCTIOND 1 year ago
This is one of the coolest Stargate battles I have ever seen! :)
WormulonDCP 1 year ago 3
They odyssey is better equipped with beam weapons which are a hell a lot more effective against Ori shields because the beam focuses on one small area of the shields and pops it like popping a balloon with a pin. However, the vessels could of one the fight if they had coordinated their fight to hit one spot of the shield thus breaching it and destroying the ship.
cubed07 2 years ago
1. Adria -the leader of the invading Ori Forces? -who begins an attack, when the leader is not yet... avaible?
2. Superior technology -with 0 tactical skills. - after this battle the Ori Battlecrusiers should've marched agains Dakara (the capital of the Free Jaffa Nation), or against Earth or against the Lucian Alliance.
3. ....because these were the strongest who could oppose them... and they must have known it, since the priors arrived many months ago... ergo: ZeRo reconnaissance.
bbenjoe 2 years ago
I wonder what would've been the result if Vala had managed to "turn" Adria and there were Ori ships at Earth to fight the Wraith ZPM Hiveship.
CobaltX07 2 years ago
That my friend would have been awesome Ori ships against the Wraith Supership
Sokar2488 2 years ago
In the ark of truth. It specifically states that the odyssey has a zpm on it. thats why near the end when the replicators are trying to take control of it, 4 ori motherships continually shoot at the odyssey for at least 10 minutes with the shield only going to 18%. that must have been at least a hundred hits. remember a zpm can make the shields so powerful it can withstand a solar flare, much less a weak ori main cannon.
daralzand 2 years ago
wait where is it that said a ZPM can make shields so powerful it can withstand solar flare?
Sirumakato 2 years ago
@Sirumakato Atlantis episdoe "echoes". THey don't say it, but show it.
walkoff2 2 years ago
the odyssey has the third zpm
daedulas took the zpm that atlantis was using to stop the solar flare
it was a combination of the new asgard shields and the zpm that helped defend against the ori weapons
you didnt see it get installed because it was already installed (you dont see the zpm everytime atnatis raises its shields)
angrykid616 2 years ago
i wonder what would have happened if the old alliance of ancients asgard furlings and nox had been at the super gate instead of tauri and jaffa
benforden 2 years ago
there were more adnvanced races in milky way that werent invited to the fight, like the ones carter help win a race, and the ones who got stuck with the phrometeus on a nebulosa
SmopuiM 2 years ago
the ones who carter helped win a race get overrun by the ori
its mentioned ion season 10 episode 7 i believe
as for the grace ship, it wasent very friendly and they had no idea how to contact one
angrykid616 2 years ago
also the nox
SmopuiM 2 years ago
obviously you dont watch stargate much otherwise you would know that the nox would never fight even to save their own planet
angrykid616 2 years ago
yeah i did watch it, i was just saying ;P
SmopuiM 2 years ago
but you might as well be asking why the romulans didnt fight
angrykid616 2 years ago
i mean they could have had an episode of sg1 trying to convice them, and they agreeing because of the important threath the ori was, something like that.
SmopuiM 2 years ago
I feel sorry for the russian korolev daedalus class ship, this is their first mission using the ship and they were destroyed easily by the ori.
earnnest82 2 years ago 2
they shoulda blasted the Ori ships as soon as they came thru the gate
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
No reason to assume that the Ori ships wouldn't have been destroyed; even piercing their shields it took multiple hits from the new Asgard weapons in the last ep to actually destroy an Ori mothership. It's reasonable to assume that they wouldn't have done significant damage; at most maybe they could have blown a window out or something :P
trekkie1701c 2 years ago
when the Ori ships came thru the gate the Ori ship's shields weren't up so the "alliance" ships would have hit em direct on with all their firepower hitting one ship at a time would have taken the Ori ship out and the resulting explosion would have helped to destroy the next ship coming thru the gate
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
The only reference to anything powering up was that they were powering their weapons; as far as I can tell there's nothing to indicate that the shields were not raised as they were coming through the gate. Plus as I said, it took a lot to take an Ori mothership out even with it's shields penetrated, and one would also assume that the ships could have comparable strength to the supergate - which wasn't destroyed by being fired at by the Jaffa.
trekkie1701c 2 years ago
since ships don't have their shields raised during hyperspace flight we can assume the Ori didn't have em raised.. remember when Fifth's replicator ship came out of hyperspace at the Asgard's new home world and the Asgard were able to blast it because it didn't have time to raise it's shields as it came out of hyperspace..the Ori ships took several blast of the new Asgard weapons since the beams had to penetrate deplete the shields before hitting the ship
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
The Ori ships came out of a gate, not from hyperspace.
And in "Unending" you can see that it took multiple impacts to the actual hull of the Ori ships that were destroyed before they exploded. Given the amount of firepower the shields of those ships were shown to have taken and thus the amount of power that would have been required to pierce them, it can be assumed that if it takes multiple hits with a weapon that can break their shields to kill them, then lower power weapons won't do it.
trekkie1701c 2 years ago
heh the odyssey kills the ori ship in about 10 seconds.
daralzand 2 years ago
Drones could have probably destroyed the Ori. If only they had an ancient warship or two.
LuminusX 2 years ago
In "The Road Not Taken" there's a reference to it; apparently the weapon in Antartica was just a match for an Ori mothership. I would assume that Ancient bases have more firewpower than an Ancient warship, so they probably would have lost even with an ancient warship there. Though they may have been able to damage/destroy one of the Ori ships.
trekkie1701c 2 years ago
People should know that Asgard hasn't build a asgard beam yet in this episode that's why even the asgard ship hasn't been able to defeat a ori ship
earnnest82 2 years ago
yep they developed the beam technology after contact with and fighting the Ori ..they also developed new stronger shields .. like all wars it advances military technology
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
unemployed are the ori
BSGfan84 2 years ago 8
To bad the followers of the Ori don't know that everything the Ori preach is a lie.
plantguy9 2 years ago
haloed are the ori lol
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
Oh man! Our alliance of free Jaffar, Asgard, Tok'ra, and our own ships got their asses handed to them by those Ori ships! Everyone will need to regroup and think of another way to defeat those Ori ships!
plantguy9 2 years ago
lol...even if the ori sended only 1 ship they would have won XD
what episode of what season is this???
kingsukkelnoob 2 years ago
not so sure, because daneil jackson beam him self aboard, if they hadent hit the ship there, they would have beam the bomb aboard, and with only one Ori ship, they would have got more time
im a little geek you now xD
uberjens 2 years ago
It is the last episode of season 9, its called Camelot
Killerbobcats 2 years ago
Season 9 episode 20 i think
fetsen1 2 years ago
Not necessarily. With only one ship to focus on they could have possibly overwhelmed the shields with sheer firepower.
pstiver 2 years ago
no they wouldn't...the Ori are the same as the ancients but than the evil way...both got very strong weapons...and the ori ships beam needs only 2 shots to destroy the tauri ships...and only 1 for the goa'uld ships
kingsukkelnoob 2 years ago
in here it took 2 or so shots to take out a tauri ship. but in ark of truth the odyssey took like 10 shots and it didnt get destroyed(but yeah i know they got newer sheilds later on)
dasaxophonist 2 years ago
I thought Odyssey in Ark of Truth had a ZPM powering it's cloak? That mixed with the Asgard enhancements would mean much stronger shields I guess. We know the Daedalus can make the trip to Atlantis in a matter of days instead of it taking 2 weeks with a ZPM plugged in.
Jiffmo 2 years ago
I dont remember seeing them install a ZPM on the Odyssey in Ark of Truth. I know we have 3 ZPM's(1 on earth, another on atlantis, and yeah i think the last is used by the Daedalus though im not really sure). I know the Daedalus used the 3rd ZPM to defend Atlantis from the solar flare. But im not sure if they continued to use it after cause if they did the daedalus would've put up a bigger fight against the "super" hive ship on the last ep. of SGA. Apollo said they were venting atmosphere.
dasaxophonist 2 years ago
But no, on the last episode of SG-1 the Asgard outfitted the Odyssey with more advanced sheilds, beam weapons, and the rest of Asgard tech. Im pretty sure the Odyssey wasnt using a ZPM cause i never saw them put it in. The reason how they cloaked the Odyssey was because Carter found out how Jackson cloaked the ship when he was a prior. And by the way does anyone know, what top secret mission the Odyssey was on that it couldn't help defend earth from the super hive ship? does anyone know lol
dasaxophonist 2 years ago
Fairly sure when Jackson hijacks the Odyssey with O'Neill and heads to the supergate he says they're cloaked. When asked how he says something like 'it's complicated, and needs a ZPM'.
I could be COMPLETELY wrong, but I remember something like that quite vividly when O'Niell asks if Jackson is bothered about the Ori ship.
Jiffmo 2 years ago
hmm, i dont remember that. i mean i do, but not the zpm part. gahh its been awhile since i seen that episode. I just remember when asked how jackson cloaked the ship by Carter Jackson replied i dont know. But i remember on the last ep. of SG-1 the Odyssey took similar hits from the Ori when leaving the Asgard planet. I think about 4 or 5 & they didnt have a ZPM. This is a good question to ask Cooper or Wright cause i dont remember seeing a ZPM on Ark of Truth & i seen it like 10 times
dasaxophonist 2 years ago
If i remember correctly they had an asgard core computer and Odisey was full of asgard improvements so that might have been why they didn't die on the second shot. I think Thor even said that the computer shouldn't interfere with the ships ZPM powered computer, but i'm not 100% sure
LordElfi 2 years ago
the Odyssey took more than 2 hits on the last ep. of SG-1, and i think we didnt have 3 ZPM's yet on that episode so theres no way the Odyssey could've had one. The only ZPM we had was on Atlantis. So there, that proves my theory that it was the new advance sheilds that defended the Odyssey from more than 2 hits
dasaxophonist 2 years ago
Odyssey definitely had a ZPM in the last ep, Carter makes a reference that they can't reverse time because the ZPM is nearly depleted from running the time dilation field for so long.
As to why the Odyssey could have taken more hits than the Korolev in this ep, the Odyssey was an operational ship at the time, whereas the Korolev was rushed in to service. I'd say it's possible the Korolev's shields weren't quite up to par with the Odyssey's at the time.
trekkie1701c 2 years ago
Plus usually before a ship or anything is equiped with a ZPM they have a scene showing them put it in. sorry for my long comments lol
dasaxophonist 2 years ago
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benforden 1 year ago
is it me or does the ori ships some what look like stargates
frozrn 2 years ago 2
This was a really great episode of "Stargate SG-1" and it was one of my favorite episodes as well. Thanks for posting this.
NX74656 2 years ago
Two of our own 304 ships with asgard tech and shields, a asgard warship, and a fleet of goa'uld motherships. Ori kick ass.
skopthom 2 years ago
Is it just me or did we get our asses kicked?
ScottJackson117 2 years ago
anyone know if thees a soundtrack for this. effin awesome. goosebumps.
bmanthelumberjack 2 years ago 2
Ori shields function on a different principle from most shields used in our galaxy. Ori shields take the power from weapons fired at them, and use that power to sustain the shield. They cannot be drained, rather, they must be overloaded, which is why beam weapons work better than pulse weapons. The O'niell class couldn't destroy them because it was using pulse weapons, not beams. Now...a million hat'taks if they all fired at the exact same time could overload the shield and destroy the ship.
SG1Ryu 2 years ago 14
I was wondering why the Ori motherships cut through 2 X-304, 1 O'Neill class Asgard ship and that many Ha'tak ships so easily. Thank you for your comment
Sokar2488 2 years ago
they dnt draw power from the weapons fired at them coz bra'tac rams a fully functioning hatak into the ori mothership in orbit over chulakwithout firing at it and it causes no damage to the ship, your thiking of the shield that the priors use to collapse a planet into i micro singularity durin the creation of a supergate
blackemperor1327 2 years ago
Atlantis shields FTW! lol
tiagom135 1 year ago
@SG1Ryu We use naquadria to power our ships instead of naquada like the ha'taks use. Naquadria gives away more power and are more effective to use as an power source
IAMSilentdeath 1 year ago
would'nt the Asgard ship kick the ori's ass
JosheyG34 2 years ago
JosheyG34 The Asgard ships would not because the Ori are as advanced as the Ancients and the Asgard ship was not a warship and The Ori ship is.
booo1230 2 years ago 2
you made one little mistake, that Asgard ship was an warship, the O'Neil class warship, the most powerfull warship of the Asgard
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
Jaspertheking4life How do you know that ship is a O'neil class warship because that ship looked like all the other Asgard Ships i have ever seen.
booo1230 2 years ago
because i have seen a list whith all the asgard ships designs and name's and I know when I see an O'neill class warship
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago 2
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benforden 2 years ago
uh that was an O'Neill class Asgard ship
JosheyG34 2 years ago
The O'Neill class starships were built to fight the Replicators; they were indeed warships. They just couldn't compete with technology developed Ascended beings.
Jeff701 2 years ago 2
Jeff701 yeah your right I just cant tell the differience between a war ship and the ones that are not.
booo1230 2 years ago
You don't see what happens to the Asgard ship
MetalheadYngwie 2 years ago
omg it would b really shitty if the ori was real we would all b killed in an intergalactic holocost
wkdsubzero 2 years ago
FINALLY!!! someone who hasn't changed the audio. my favorite scene from stargate sg1
NinjaChipmunk21 2 years ago 18
LOL, when I found this tonight, I was thinking the EXACT same thing, no damn anooying added music.
Kilogg 2 years ago 6
I was looking for this scene and was a little pissed that so many people changed the audio.
plantguy9 2 years ago
I hate that. SCREW THE AUDIO CHANGE!
unytcommsys 2 years ago 3
where can i see the continuing of this?
wwwfdnsro 2 years ago
All 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1 are now on DVD.
plantguy9 2 years ago
i just noticed something
when they first open fire at 4:39 the asgard ship is much smaller than it should be
angrykid616 2 years ago 2
also i seem to have to put this every time
the ori ships are likely powered by vacuum energy(aka project Arcturus) which means their shields wouldnt be drained by anything so you could crash a planet into it with no effect
angrykid616 2 years ago
I actually doubt they are indestructible.
Project arcturus gives infinite energy but limited power i think, or at least the shield emitter being built on machines can only handle so much power flowing through them.
I too think the Ori shields are strain based and do not deplete over time with being shot at.
However, as strain based shields it should be possible to overwhelm them with a good amount of energy delivered fast enough.
All ships of the armada shooting one ori ship at the same time.
Reozul 2 years ago 3
project acturus gave limited power
but that was built by the ancients before they ascended
whereas the ori ships were built using ascended knowledge
the asgar beam weapons are extremely powerful and still take a few shots to take out the ori shields so even if the entire fleet fired upon one ship at a time it would still take a few minutes to take it out
i seriously doubt they could have taken out a ship that way before they were destroyed
angrykid616 2 years ago 3
Thats something I don't buy into.
Why should something that was basically jury-rigged onto a Tauri ship be stronger than an O'Neill class?
Furthermore, they say that the Ori shields "fluctuate". In my opinion its more logical to say that the beam weapons (powerful as they are) created a resonance in the Ori shields. More shots meant a higher amplitude in the "fluctuation" making the Ori-Shields fluctuate from very strong to very weak.
Reozul 2 years ago 3
Of course, that alone doesn't make them collaps, but with more shots, the amplitude of the fluctuation increses and at one point the minimum of it should go below zero. As this is impossible, the shield emitter stumbles and shuts down in order to reboot giving an attacking ship enough time to damage or destroy the ship.
Keep in mind that this explanation is only my preferred one as I doubt the logic of a jury-rigged system being that much stronger than an O'Neill class, even if possibly ancient
Reozul 2 years ago 3
technology based. (strange this is the first time I can post 3 comments in a row, so please excuse the crowdedness of comment #2 as I thought I was running out of space)
Reozul 2 years ago
thats because you underestimate ancient technology, the asgard energy core may be advanced but it is nowhere near as advanced as the ancient energy devices
angrykid616 2 years ago
there is just one thing wrong with that tactically, the other 3 ori ships would pick off the
Saiyar990 2 years ago
I'm gonna assume that you meant to write "other ships".
And you're right, they would.
It was merely meant as an idea how strong the shields are.
However, if all ships were firing, some energy of the first salvo would bleed through and damage/destroy one of the ori ships. The others though would in the meantime destroy enough allied ships that this can't happen again.
Reozul 2 years ago
for energy to bleed through the attack would have to be strong enough to damage the shield
how may times must i say this?
ori shields can not be drained even if a billion hataks fired at them
angrykid616 2 years ago
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angrykid616 2 years ago
ori"s are cheating
srry for bad english.
BiggestTwoNoobs 2 years ago
This is still great to watch, and still scary!!
Tanru2000 2 years ago
intense!
lpkid17 2 years ago 2
I know! It's also tough not being able to do anything but just sit and watch while your friends and allies get slaughtered like poor Sam Carter had to do.
plantguy9 2 years ago
The x-304's could only take 2 hits. When the Ori fired for the fist time and hit the odessey their shields went down to 50%. After they got the asgard upgrades before they blow the planet up they incressed their shield power. Aloowing them to take more hits.
xRAYKOx 2 years ago
but they also had a zpm as well so that could also be the reason for the amount the oddessy could take
streeter2k9 2 years ago
They didnt have a ZPM at that time. Remember The first one they had, the one o'neill used to power the drone chair got used up when they sent the team to atlantis the first time. The second one they found they sent to atlantis to help them fend off the seige.
xRAYKOx 2 years ago
well....it´s curious that the first hit was so effective. But the Korolev could only be destroyed by -3- hits! The first one was the opening fire and then the ori used 2 more shots: 1 for the shield and the third for totally destroying ;)
gaararh 2 years ago
The Ori kicked butt in this battle, they destroyed 10ships, and crippled 2 others. Only the Asgard ship avoided serious damage.
32silvercoins 2 years ago
yes, but only bearly
porpus99 2 years ago
Eh Idk, they were never hit by the Ori's main weapon and the Odessey could absord at least 5 blast of the main weapon before its shields failed.
I can imagine the smaller turrets inflict only a fraction of the damage that the main weapon inflicts.
32silvercoins 2 years ago
i find it weird that in the show, the Odessey could only take 5 hits, but in the movie it took alot more
porpus99 2 years ago
They may have been able to increase the shields output. During Unending, they had only just received the new upgrades and had no time to fine tune them. The Asgard did give them there ENTIRE datebase. Im sure there is a big section marked "Weapons".
32silvercoins 2 years ago
But the Odessey was already equiped with Asguard shields, that is why they had to have an Asguard in there crew for a while. Prohaps they upgraded using the ancient database on Atlantis, or the Replicator did something in the movie Ark Of Truth. They did after all get a Gauld Hatak to go faster then any other ship Gauld ship at the time, on the episode when they returned, and Apophis died.
porpus99 2 years ago
I think that they may have upgraded the Oddessey's power generation. The Oddessey may have all kinds of new toys but the main powercore is still Human(mostly) and therefore it cant handle putting the shields and engines at full power, otherwise the whole thing may go boom.
32silvercoins 2 years ago
That is true. When they had the Dadalist go to the pegusist galaxy for the first time, to save Atlantis from the Wraith, they needed a ZPM to get there faster, and when they had to save Atlantis from some solar eruption, they had to use Atlantis's ZPM to increase the shields and deflect the wave. Probable has to do with power.
porpus99 2 years ago
Naquadah generator power the 304s and while they are powerful they arnt powerful enough to keep the Asgard shields and plasma beams going at full bore for long.
Also during the Siege of Atlantis, Hermiod said without the ZPM Dedaelus wouldnt be able to keep her shields as long.
32silvercoins 2 years ago
it has a big stamp on it sayin made in china LOL
starwillf6 2 years ago
A single BC-304 with asgard beam weapons kills Ori mommies in no time.
Helge129 2 years ago
I always liked this scene. And I dont think that they will destroy an Ori ship even if they concentrate all their fire. Why? to show everyone just how powerfull they are.
Someone has the music from the battle? I dont find it anywere.
Saiyan0X 2 years ago
Forget about the music... I found it
Saiyan0X 2 years ago
@Saiyan0X where? is there a soundtrack... i know it's a little late but i think the music is cool too
halorulesyourface 1 year ago
i think they would have destroyed one ori modership if they all focused their fire on the sam ship!
ankianka16 2 years ago
Probably, but by the time they destroyed one, the other three would've destroyed them!
CGren123 2 years ago
yes but they would atleats have one less to fight when they get hunted by the ori due to the asgard tech
ankianka16 2 years ago
I'd like to those Ori tiolet ships withstand a blast from some quantum torpedos fired from the USS Defiant! Those babies would right through their shields!
PATTONM14A1 2 years ago
Star Trek is 300 years ahead of current Earth in tech...the Goa'uld are 500...that Leaves the rest of the more advanced Stargate Races....if an Asgard mothership could kill a Ha'tak in a couple of shots then a Federation ship will last less than 10 seconds..IMHO a Sovereign Class ship is a match for the Normal Ha'tak Mothership
jnadreth 2 years ago 2
I tend to think that a galaxy has about the same shield strenght as a standard ha'tak. (600PJ) with a sovereign being stronger (1500PJ).
Of course neither is as strong as a daedalus here (1800PJ) and these here aren't even post-unending specs yet.
Federation phasers don't have the strenght necessary to do much damage, so the only way would be torpedos, at which point I again think a galaxy to be equal to a ha'tak.
(please note that I don't buy into the 250Mt ha'tak cannons)
Reozul 2 years ago
I agree with most of waht you are saying...minus the normal 304s shields;) Asgard shields are really powerful;) A sovie does have more better weapons than a Ha'tak but the shield I think are at a similar level;)
jnadreth 2 years ago
1 question whie dont they make a shield on that gate
like the ome on earth
Ph3NoMeNoN001 2 years ago
Put yourself in their shoes; Maybe because the supergate is approximately 1,000m in diameter vs the gate on Earth which is about 5-6m in diameter. Now how could you build a device this magnitude not to mention where and how would you get all that titanium or any other material necessary to build such a massive shield? That would be like an engineering marvel in SG not to mention the year it would take to build.
Tetrathyl 2 years ago
yo i mean a shield like the one used on ships is like tha same thing like the one used in atlanis
Ph3NoMeNoN001 2 years ago
Oh you meant the one in Atlantis! Well the stargate itself doesn't have a shield of its own but instead is provided from the control room which puts a shield around it. So the answer is no. Even if they tried to put a shielding device on the supergate, it would be impossible for such a large structure especially if it would require unimaginable amount of energy to power up the shield and maintain its operation for long periods of time.
Tetrathyl 2 years ago
at least put a ship there the contact wont make i mean like the times when earth stargate wasent fownd so it wont open a wormhole
Ph3NoMeNoN001 2 years ago
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Ph3NoMeNoN001 2 years ago
they can make an energy shield using a ZPM (Zero Point Module)
Ph3NoMeNoN001 2 years ago
and where would they get a zpm from in the milky way
starwillf6 2 years ago
thay can take energy from the back hole ...
Ph3NoMeNoN001 2 years ago
they had no Jaffa or space ships left, they couldn't do squat.
slash12190 2 years ago
damm....the good guys just got there asses kicked....
ColonelFleet 2 years ago
the irony!
crossvariation 2 years ago
Kovolev= Russian= dead
Cartiora 2 years ago
great vid
dxdx911 2 years ago
FINALLY! A friggin space battle on Youtube that doesn't have the stupid crappy music overtop.
blaisejones 2 years ago 12
I agree
FinLumi 2 years ago
I thought the System Lords were wiped out by the Replicators.
alpha95X 2 years ago
Only Ba'al is left alive.
AElektraZ87 2 years ago
Sniff Sniff coroléf is Dead !!! Sniff asgard is not dead !!!
Sassheppard 2 years ago
STAR GATE 4 LIFE
Ph3NoMeNoN001 2 years ago
lol! those goa'uld ships are 1 hit 1 kill and the tauri ships are at least 2 hit's from the beam weapon
kingsukkelnoob 2 years ago
why the hell didn't they blast them the second the Ori ships came thru the gate ?
victor2cutube 3 years ago 2
they should have blasted em as soon as they got out of the gate before they got their shields up.. why did they wait ????
victor2cutube 3 years ago
Damn those Ori ships are powerful! Not even a scratch because of their shields!!!
plantkingman 3 years ago
I still don't understand how ships take damage THROUGH the shields? It's pretty pointless if your shields don't protect you, especially if those shields are still up, yet your ship is totally f*cked on the inside. I've heard a lot of techno-babble about how the internal explosions and such are from the feedback/overloads caused by energy weapons, but seems pretty implausible on it's own.
isaned 3 years ago
I dunno... maybe it's like kevlar? But that would be... armour, not shields.
ProphetTenebrae 3 years ago
i agree with what ur saying about the shields , how can it be possible; The sheild is like a bubble around the ship and there is SPACE between the ship and the sheild so how the hell does the oddessey take damage, until the sheild fails lol
romaNwars 3 years ago
Maybe the shield re-root some of energy which come from Ori weapon and because of too much energy it start explose inside.
FinLumi 3 years ago
The shields don't protect the ship from all of the energy. It takes the brunt of the blast, but residual energy basically bleeds through the shields and causes damage to the ship.
higuy110 3 years ago
I would agree if we didn't see the energy get pushed off around the bubble of the shield. And for it to cause as much damage to the ship as it did without actuallly going through the shields is ridiculous, especially to such a specific system like sub-light engines on the Daedalus.
isaned 3 years ago
right, ive said this before, i will say it again. its a television series. There are quite a lot of factual errors in the series, like how neutronium dont collapse the planet into a mini black hole, sound in space, and so on. however i dont complain. because its a television series designed to entertain, and im entertained. so i dont give a damn about scientific errors, and i sure as hell dont try to be smart about them, for honestly, who cares?
reisejr 3 years ago
Ok, Mr. 'It's-just-a-show,' let me quote someone FROM this show ABOUT this show (and others):
"Never underestimate your audience. They're generally sensitive, intelligent people who respond positively to quality entertainment."
So BITE ME if I'm one of the intelligent ones, but you probably love "Weapons to maximum!" don't you? And when did I bring up neutronium. I was talking about shields, and this show isn't the only one to do it, so it's more of a genre mistake than a SG mistake.
isaned 3 years ago
No, im not someone who just loves "weapons at maximum". I like quality entertainment, not just limited to sci fi and special effects. I however dont bother with details. if they want to trade some realism for a better epidode, fine. and about the neutronium, it was an example, my point being that to make a good scifi show, it cant be all realism. if i wanted realism i could look out my window.
reisejr 3 years ago
The creators and developers chose to place this in a present-day, realistic manner. Everything should be as close to 'reality' as possible (the USAF, current time period, nations, etc) with only one sci-fi element: the stargate. My point is that if they want to keep it in the world we know, they have to be careful of making unrealistic mistakes that shatter 'suspension of disbelief,' especially after they spend hours of explaining how things work, like the stargate. Go look out your window, then
isaned 3 years ago
you didnt rally listen to what i said right? I said that if i wanted compleate realism id look outside my window. but i dont want total realism when i watch stargate, i want quality entertainment. and if thwy want to sacrifice a bit of realism in order to improve the quality of the show, then fine by me.
also one thing, instead of just looking for errors, you might want to look for the (somtimes obvious) explenasions too.
reisejr 3 years ago
the shields are like the magnetic field around the earth.. it can disipate the power of energy weapons but some of the energy will get thru like if a solar flare hits the earth's megnetic field it defects some of the energy but some will get thru and hit the atmosphere and earth's surface. that's what is causing the shorting out of the electronics etc.
victor2cutube 3 years ago 2
Well it is better than no shields at all and taking the full blast head on. At least the shields block most of the energy. But of coarse since it is a constant concentrated blast of energy a cumulative amount of residual energy will get through and damage systems, like sub-light engines. Also I would suspect that some ship systems would be more fragile and susceptible the the blast energy.
higuy110 3 years ago
higuy: Yeah, I know shields are better than no shields, and at least the fact that the Asgard gave them to the Daedelus/Korelev was a good reason they survived so many hits, unlike the Hat'ak ships that get killed in one hit. Also, it is worthy to note that later the shields can take several direct hits, and some don't cause any damage, like in "Unending," where the shield go down to 28%, but everything is still working. Shows improvement of the shield concept and possible upgrades.
isaned 3 years ago
isaned: But is possible that Ori ships just didn't have full power in weapon at that moment because of jump when they came after Odyssey.
FinLumi 3 years ago
before the asgard died off they installed improved shields and weapons and of course the asgard core... shields apparently need to be recharged when hit by an energy weapon it drains them so with every hit it weakens their power in proportion to the amount of energy disipated.
victor2cutube 3 years ago
do not forget in addition to the asgard core and improved shields the odyssey had a fully powered ZPM on board. but asgard shields still are effective against ori beam weapons.
DBZ1253 2 years ago
this was one of the best most exciting moments in TV.
the4thskin 3 years ago
Those pussies didnt even resist a single hit.
Nerupe0 3 years ago