He seems to sing it in a diff key at times to what the band is playing ! ....dont wish to speak ill of the dead ....but i thought that was very "rock generic" ...no real personality n his voice = adequate , but that all.
he is far better then martin.I tried to get into those albums and i just cant.Ive listened a few times thinking it might grow on me but it doesnt. ray was amazing and martin was great but i just didnt like the songs
Ray Gillen ... great voice, but he belongs in a choir, not in a classic metal band like Black Sabbath.
This version of The Mob Rules has none of the savagery of the Dio version. It sounds like a smoothed out pussified version of the Dio rendition, which is screaming and apocolyptic.
This is not a good example of his best in Sabbath. The Eternal Idol demo sounds way better than the actual album versions of those tracks, that alone says alot. But also one version of the demo includes some excellent live renditions of Danger Zone, War Pigs, and Heart Like A Wheel..the other 3 live tracks not so much.
The actual album isn't bad, it's just too stiff and lacking feeling when compared to the far superior Gillen versions. The album doesn't even exist anymore in my view.
It's a shame that this line-up didn't last. It was the most youthfull line-up since Ozzy. But Tony Martin was perfect on the first three albums he did, so I'm glad it turned out the way it did.
You're on the money regarding Ray Gillen. HIm singing Mob Rules was hot but BADLANDS was thee shit! I love those albums! Jake had a great guitar sound
He wasn't talking about those songs, he was talking about THIS song (Mob Rules), and I agree with him (on THIS song). Nobody can top Dio on this, but still I absolutely LOVE Martin singing the songs like Headless Cross, he's an amazing singer, regardless of comparissions.
Absolutely love Ray but he wasn't mean enough for this song. Veronica Freeman from Benediction is the only singer who can give Ronnie a serious run for his money on this song. Talk about a mindblowing metal voice!
Ray was incredible. I think Dio was better for Sabbath. Ronnie was evil sounding. Ray is a gifted singer but he sounds like Geoff Tate fronting Sabbath. Not a bad thing, but different.
Ray could sing anything from Ozzy, GIllan, Dio,he had 4 octaves or more of vocal range with natural power voice,nice raspy tone, vibrato,great phrasing and lyrics ,stage presence,the best frontman of the late eighties!RIP R. Gillen!
@shaolinwisdom it would be better than Ian Gillan's version of heaven and hell. I can see why he didn't finish it. he's a blues rock singer not a metal singer.
but yeah if Ozzy sang a Dio song this might be the first one he would do...as long as sharon's not around.
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS, ive been looking for a good recording of Ray with Black Sabbath for years, i have gotten several but too often the recording is trash, i hear there is/are/were a black sabbath album Eternal Idol i think recorded with Ray, but later re-recorded with Martin, does anyone out there know if any copies of the original recordings leaked out or if sabbath plans to release it?
i suppose if i would have looked a little further down i would have seen that.. lol.. my bad.. and thank you once again for posting this.. ive been gathering as much as i can from Ray for years, his vocal style was amazing to say the least!!!
Holy fucking loud batman! I had to turn my volume down to almost nothing to avoid destroying my eardrums. Good song though. And yeah, I already know the saying, "if its too loud, you're too old". I am old. I know the song from the movie Heavy Metal (1981).
LOL sorry. It is a little loud, but then again, I always keep my computer at a low volume and usually have on headphones so I tailor the sound to what I'm hearing. No one else has said anything yet on this or any of my other audios, so I've just assumed the sound was ok. I'll take it under consideration for future videos.
R.I.P. Ray Gillen you was and always will be a great singer
BLOODWOLFGT99 4 days ago
Dio's version is the best by far, but damn, Ray was one amazing vocalist.
Wyndrax 7 months ago
He seems to sing it in a diff key at times to what the band is playing ! ....dont wish to speak ill of the dead ....but i thought that was very "rock generic" ...no real personality n his voice = adequate , but that all.
TheMichaelseymour 8 months ago
I saw this live and for years I thought I had seen Ian Gillan! They sold posters with Gillan in it and even the locandina had Gillan in it .
aaaarrrgggghh 10 months ago
Great stuff, Ian sounds kinda like Bruce Dickinson on this recording though
ChristianU2ubeh 1 year ago
@ChristianU2ubeh it's Ray Gillen, NOT Ian Gillan...
MattSVK1 8 months ago
@MattSVK1 Fuck my life Ray* sorry.
ChristianU2ubeh 8 months ago
he is far better then martin.I tried to get into those albums and i just cant.Ive listened a few times thinking it might grow on me but it doesnt. ray was amazing and martin was great but i just didnt like the songs
smithdsmit 1 year ago
nice job but does need the keyboards.
Alhambrattp 1 year ago
mmm it's horrible for me compared with Dio's vocals mmm not really good
andresc228 1 year ago
Black Sabbath should've just stopped after Dio left. Seriously.........
RedKnightTheGreat 1 year ago
@RedKnightTheGreat I liked the ian gillan album
justplainscott 1 year ago
Ray Gillen ... great voice, but he belongs in a choir, not in a classic metal band like Black Sabbath.
This version of The Mob Rules has none of the savagery of the Dio version. It sounds like a smoothed out pussified version of the Dio rendition, which is screaming and apocolyptic.
nightowl8936 2 years ago
@nightowl8936
Are your finger's hardwired to my brain?
..I couldn't have expressed it differently.
spentonmediocrity 1 year ago
This is not a good example of his best in Sabbath. The Eternal Idol demo sounds way better than the actual album versions of those tracks, that alone says alot. But also one version of the demo includes some excellent live renditions of Danger Zone, War Pigs, and Heart Like A Wheel..the other 3 live tracks not so much.
The actual album isn't bad, it's just too stiff and lacking feeling when compared to the far superior Gillen versions. The album doesn't even exist anymore in my view.
MonopolyRSV 2 years ago
Frank I. is not the Prince of Darkness. He's the best there is, the best there was, the best there always will be ....... and you are too, Bret.
smilingpug 2 years ago
But gillian is amazing yes.
But i cant imagine the sabbath i know with anyone other then Ozzy or Dio.
They make sabbath... Sabbath!
Althought Iommi is the true prince of darkness ;D
sharrer2 2 years ago 2
Btw p0rkjell0,
Do you have the third, unreleased, BADLANDS album called "DUSK" from '99, i think?
In case not there's a few on ebay now...
Tight album but horrible artwork. You can't read any part of the booklett....not even with a magnifying glass.
monsta64 2 years ago
All i can say is puff, puff, give mother fuc@#! Awesome range!
anarvaez8032 2 years ago
He sings this song in a higher key than Dio.
DFORCEAMAZING 2 years ago 12
It's a shame that this line-up didn't last. It was the most youthfull line-up since Ozzy. But Tony Martin was perfect on the first three albums he did, so I'm glad it turned out the way it did.
tjcobra666 2 years ago
nah man dio can actualy sing n so can gillian the material from the ozzy period era was better that all
Gladybun 2 years ago
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zezinhozeppelin 2 years ago
People who think Black Sabbath stop existing after 1979 = Epic Fail
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disgraceful ...this isn't sabbath..!!..it's iommi hiring guns... but he was a good vocalist .. and what's with the cheesy keyboards?...
blica1 2 years ago
This is smoking hot, but I think Ray's best work was with Badlands... RIP Ray!
p0rkjell0 2 years ago 2
Hy p0rkjell0,
You're on the money regarding Ray Gillen. HIm singing Mob Rules was hot but BADLANDS was thee shit! I love those albums! Jake had a great guitar sound
monsta64 2 years ago
I agree 100%. Badlands was wicked! One of my favorite bands of all time by far!!
p0rkjell0 2 years ago
Badlands is wicked!!! Damn shame the band never got the credit for the music they made... Respect to mr Ray Gillen!!!
ThePopeOfHeavyMetal 2 years ago 2
not a patch on dio........actually the best singer sabbath ever had was Ian gillan (born again)
rlseuro 2 years ago
Glenn Hughes, Tony Martin and Dio kick his ass any day
Zusik12900 2 years ago
wow!!!! if there's one person who can just smoke the one and the only Ronnie James Dio... it is Ray Gillan.
Tony is the most underrated guitar player to ever live.
wow.
tomitstube 2 years ago 5
I agree man
rickinick 2 years ago
Actually Tony Martin gives Dio a big run for his money....Headless Cross? Eternol Idol? Tyr? Same Dio inflections but VERY powerful voice.
SonnyGTA 2 years ago
He wasn't talking about those songs, he was talking about THIS song (Mob Rules), and I agree with him (on THIS song). Nobody can top Dio on this, but still I absolutely LOVE Martin singing the songs like Headless Cross, he's an amazing singer, regardless of comparissions.
djeikop 2 years ago 2
Absolutely love Ray but he wasn't mean enough for this song. Veronica Freeman from Benediction is the only singer who can give Ronnie a serious run for his money on this song. Talk about a mindblowing metal voice!
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago
Just thought '1986, he's got that wrong' and had a check. 20+ years ago..... I'M SO OLD...
This guy was great for Sabbath - shame
ianpw2 2 years ago
Ray was incredible. I think Dio was better for Sabbath. Ronnie was evil sounding. Ray is a gifted singer but he sounds like Geoff Tate fronting Sabbath. Not a bad thing, but different.
ajgrimdogg 2 years ago 2
I'm a hardcore RJD fan but Ray Gillen on this
song is fantastic! R.I.P. RAY..
Thank you blacksabfan for uploading..
Diofan1952 3 years ago 4
Ray could sing anything from Ozzy, GIllan, Dio,he had 4 octaves or more of vocal range with natural power voice,nice raspy tone, vibrato,great phrasing and lyrics ,stage presence,the best frontman of the late eighties!RIP R. Gillen!
1alexkeeper 3 years ago 5
Makes me wonder what a few Ronnie song would sound like with ozzy's voice instead. Some might be pretty cool...
shaolinwisdom 3 years ago 4
@shaolinwisdom it would be better than Ian Gillan's version of heaven and hell. I can see why he didn't finish it. he's a blues rock singer not a metal singer.
but yeah if Ozzy sang a Dio song this might be the first one he would do...as long as sharon's not around.
cubby3o5 1 year ago
Only Ronnie can sing this song
TheAmazingBojack 3 years ago 2
Ray was great! How could you not think his vocals are some of the best? Powerful performance.
kwpower29 3 years ago 3
Gillen is definitely pretty good. He was probably the highest pitched Sabbath singer.
ludwigvan17 3 years ago 6
Impresionante!!
clap clap clap para un genio como ray!!
que en paz descanse un idolooo que no se tendria que haber muerto
Azraelinio 3 years ago
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS, ive been looking for a good recording of Ray with Black Sabbath for years, i have gotten several but too often the recording is trash, i hear there is/are/were a black sabbath album Eternal Idol i think recorded with Ray, but later re-recorded with Martin, does anyone out there know if any copies of the original recordings leaked out or if sabbath plans to release it?
diageo23 3 years ago 4
LOL! Sorry to laugh at you, but I posted that on here already. Look at the related videos to the right of your screen, or look in my channel.
blacksabfan 3 years ago
i suppose if i would have looked a little further down i would have seen that.. lol.. my bad.. and thank you once again for posting this.. ive been gathering as much as i can from Ray for years, his vocal style was amazing to say the least!!!
diageo23 3 years ago
Holy fucking loud batman! I had to turn my volume down to almost nothing to avoid destroying my eardrums. Good song though. And yeah, I already know the saying, "if its too loud, you're too old". I am old. I know the song from the movie Heavy Metal (1981).
grenden80 3 years ago
LOL sorry. It is a little loud, but then again, I always keep my computer at a low volume and usually have on headphones so I tailor the sound to what I'm hearing. No one else has said anything yet on this or any of my other audios, so I've just assumed the sound was ok. I'll take it under consideration for future videos.
blacksabfan 3 years ago
Actually I prefer this volume that way I can cranck it up even on my laptops speakers, awesome song man by the way !!!
cacho29mx 3 years ago
awesome vocals- go ray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rickinick 3 years ago